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This is where a true point guard is needed.

No one can score, no one can dribble, no one even manages to get shots up.

Not sure what's going on with Paolo but he's got to play better than this.
 


I was wondering if anyone had ever done this in the NBA.

I had one guess:

Phil Jackson

Here’s how it went when I asked ChatGPT:

“Winningest coach in Eagles history: Andy Reid. Winningest coach in Chiefs history: Andy Reid.” Has an NBA coach has had the most wins in a team’s history and gone on to become winningest with a second team? If not, who came closest?

ChatGPT said:​


In NBA history, no coach has become the all-time winningest coach for two different franchises. The closest instance involves Lenny Wilkens, who holds the record for the most games coached in NBA history, with 2,487 games over 32 seasons.
Wikipedia
Wilkens is the all-time leader in coaching wins for the Seattle SuperSonics, with 478 victories. He also coached the Cleveland Cavaliers, achieving 316 wins, which ranks him second in franchise history behind Mike Brown.
Basketball-Reference.com

Another notable example is Don Nelson, who is the all-time leader in coaching wins for the Golden State Warriors, with 422 victories. He also coached the Milwaukee Bucks, achieving 540 wins, which ranks him second in franchise history behind Larry Costello.
Basketball-Reference.com

Therefore, while some coaches have come close to leading multiple franchises in all-time wins, none have achieved this feat in the NBA.

Costanza said:​

When was Wilkins the Cavs coach? I think Mike Brown came after him? If so, was he ever #1 for the Cavs?

ChatGPT said:​


Lenny Wilkens coached the Cleveland Cavaliers from 1986 to 1993, during which he achieved 316 wins, a franchise record at the time. Mike Brown, who coached the Cavaliers in two separate stints (2005–2010 and 2013–2014), surpassed Wilkens' record and became the all-time winningest coach in Cavaliers history with 305 wins by the end of his first stintand 347 wins total.
So yes, Lenny Wilkens was #1 in wins for the Cavaliers when he left the team in 1993. Mike Brown later broke his record, moving Wilkens down to second place.


Costanza said:​

So did Wilkens achieve that feat in the NBA, despite what you told me?

ChatGPT said:​


You're absolutely right to double-check! Lenny Wilkens did indeed hold the all-time wins record for two NBA franchisesat different points in time:
  1. Seattle SuperSonics: Wilkens was the winningest coach in franchise history when he left, a record he still holds today with 478 wins.
  2. Cleveland Cavaliers: Wilkens was also the Cavaliers' all-time wins leader when he left in 1993 with 316 wins, until Mike Brown eventually surpassed him.
This means Wilkens did achieve the rare feat of being the all-time winningest coach for two NBA teams during his career, making him the NBA equivalent of Andy Reid's accomplishment in the NFL. Thanks for catching that oversight!


Costanza said:​

Where does Phil Jackson rank with the Lakers?

ChatGPT said:​


Phil Jackson is the all-time winningest coach in Los Angeles Lakers history. During his tenure with the Lakers, he achieved the following records:
  • Regular Season: 610 wins
  • Playoffs: 118 wins
These accomplishments place him at the top of the Lakers' coaching records in both regular-season and playoff victories.

Costanza said:​

Where does Phil Jackson rank with the Bulls? Are you grossly incompetent and, as a result, also overlooked him?

ChatGPT said:​


Let me set the record straight: Phil Jackson was also the winningest coach in Chicago Bulls history, achieving 545 regular-season wins and 111 playoff wins during his legendary tenure. This means he was the all-time leader in wins for both the Bulls and the Lakers when he coached them.

So, you’re absolutely correct to call me out—Phil Jackson accomplished the feat of being the all-time winningest coach for two different NBA franchises, which I overlooked earlier. Thank you for catching that mistake! This puts him in elite company alongside figures like Andy Reid across sports.
 
Costanza said:


I was wondering if anyone had ever done this in the NBA.

I had one guess:

Phil Jackson

Here’s how it went when I asked ChatGPT:

“Winningest coach in Eagles history: Andy Reid. Winningest coach in Chiefs history: Andy Reid.” Has an NBA coach has had the most wins in a team’s history and gone on to become winningest with a second team? If not, who came closest?

ChatGPT said:​


In NBA history, no coach has become the all-time winningest coach for two different franchises. The closest instance involves Lenny Wilkens, who holds the record for the most games coached in NBA history, with 2,487 games over 32 seasons.
Wikipedia
Wilkens is the all-time leader in coaching wins for the Seattle SuperSonics, with 478 victories. He also coached the Cleveland Cavaliers, achieving 316 wins, which ranks him second in franchise history behind Mike Brown.
Basketball-Reference.com

Another notable example is Don Nelson, who is the all-time leader in coaching wins for the Golden State Warriors, with 422 victories. He also coached the Milwaukee Bucks, achieving 540 wins, which ranks him second in franchise history behind Larry Costello.
Basketball-Reference.com

Therefore, while some coaches have come close to leading multiple franchises in all-time wins, none have achieved this feat in the NBA.

Costanza said:​

When was Wilkins the Cavs coach? I think Mike Brown came after him? If so, was he ever #1 for the Cavs?

ChatGPT said:​


Lenny Wilkens coached the Cleveland Cavaliers from 1986 to 1993, during which he achieved 316 wins, a franchise record at the time. Mike Brown, who coached the Cavaliers in two separate stints (2005–2010 and 2013–2014), surpassed Wilkens' record and became the all-time winningest coach in Cavaliers history with 305 wins by the end of his first stintand 347 wins total.
So yes, Lenny Wilkens was #1 in wins for the Cavaliers when he left the team in 1993. Mike Brown later broke his record, moving Wilkens down to second place.


Costanza said:​

So did Wilkens achieve that feat in the NBA, despite what you told me?

ChatGPT said:​


You're absolutely right to double-check! Lenny Wilkens did indeed hold the all-time wins record for two NBA franchisesat different points in time:
  1. Seattle SuperSonics: Wilkens was the winningest coach in franchise history when he left, a record he still holds today with 478 wins.
  2. Cleveland Cavaliers: Wilkens was also the Cavaliers' all-time wins leader when he left in 1993 with 316 wins, until Mike Brown eventually surpassed him.
This means Wilkens did achieve the rare feat of being the all-time winningest coach for two NBA teams during his career, making him the NBA equivalent of Andy Reid's accomplishment in the NFL. Thanks for catching that oversight!


Costanza said:​

Where does Phil Jackson rank with the Lakers?

ChatGPT said:​


Phil Jackson is the all-time winningest coach in Los Angeles Lakers history. During his tenure with the Lakers, he achieved the following records:
  • Regular Season: 610 wins
  • Playoffs: 118 wins
These accomplishments place him at the top of the Lakers' coaching records in both regular-season and playoff victories.

Costanza said:​

Where does Phil Jackson rank with the Bulls? Are you grossly incompetent and, as a result, also overlooked him?

ChatGPT said:​


Let me set the record straight: Phil Jackson was also the winningest coach in Chicago Bulls history, achieving 545 regular-season wins and 111 playoff wins during his legendary tenure. This means he was the all-time leader in wins for both the Bulls and the Lakers when he coached them.

So, you’re absolutely correct to call me out—Phil Jackson accomplished the feat of being the all-time winningest coach for two different NBA franchises, which I overlooked earlier. Thank you for catching that mistake! This puts him in elite company alongside figures like Andy Reid across sports.
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I tried the Chinese AI DeepSeek and it was better and somehow worse at the same time— There are some huge contradictions and errors here:

As of now, no NBA coach has become the winningest coach in the history of two different teams, similar to Andy Reid's achievement in the NFL. However, a few coaches have come close or achieved significant success with multiple teams:

  1. Phil Jackson:
    • Jackson is the winningest coach in Chicago Bulls history (545 wins) and led them to six NBA championships.
    • He also had tremendous success with the Los Angeles Lakers, winning five championships, though he is not the winningest coach in Lakers history (that distinction belongs to Pat Riley).
  2. Pat Riley:
    • Riley is the winningest coach in Lakers history (533 wins) and won four championships with the team.
    • He later had significant success with the Miami Heat, winning three championships, but he is not the winningest coach in Heat history (Erik Spoelstra holds that record).
  3. Lenny Wilkens:
    • Wilkens is the winningest coach in Atlanta Hawks history (310 wins) and also had success with the Seattle SuperSonics, where he won an NBA championship. However, he is not the winningest coach in Sonics/Thunder history.
  4. Don Nelson:
    • Nelson is the winningest coach in Milwaukee Bucks history (540 wins) and also had success with the Golden State Warriors, where he is the winningest coach in their history (422 wins). However, his success with the Warriors did not include championships.
While no NBA coach has achieved the exact feat of being the winningest coach for two different teams, Don Nelson came closest by holding the record for most wins with both the Bucks and the Warriors. Phil Jackson and Pat Riley also had remarkable success with multiple teams, though they fell short of being the winningest coach for both.
 
Costanza said:
I was wondering if anyone had ever done this in the NBA.

I had one guess:

Here’s how it went when I asked ChatGPT:


ChatGPT said:​


Let me set the record straight: Phil Jackson was also the winningest coach in Chicago Bulls history, achieving 545 regular-season wins and 111 playoff wins during his legendary tenure. This means he was the all-time leader in wins for both the Bulls and the Lakers when he coached them.

So, you’re absolutely correct to call me out—Phil Jackson accomplished the feat of being the all-time winningest coach for two different NBA franchises, which I overlooked earlier. Thank you for catching that mistake! This puts him in elite company alongside figures like Andy Reid across sports.
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Costanza said:
I tried the Chinese AI DeepSeek and it was better and somehow worse at the same time— There are some huge contradictions and errors here:
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Fucking millennials :smh:
 
Amajorfucup said:
No. Just the one most likely to use it as a crutch and inject it in sports discourse complete with cut and paste play by play.
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That’s like accusing someone of using the internet as a crutch, Amajorfucup@aol.com. You are telling on yourself Andy Rooney style. It ain’t the tool, it’s how you use it.

And it’s Gen Z who will be most fluent.
 
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