Official 2017-2018 Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Cam Heyward said Tuitt's injury is not season ending. Thank God!! :yes:

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Mike Tomlin says Stephon Tuitt has a small chance of playing vs. Vikings

Coach Mike Tomlin said the biceps injury to defensive end Stephon Tuitt is not what the Steelers initially feared and said he even has a remote chance to play Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings.

“It’s really positive, compared to what it could’ve been,” Tomlin said Tuesday at his weekly news conference. “It’s not season-ending.”

Tomlin said Tuitt’s “short-term availability is in question” and the team will monitor his arm strength and how it functions. But when asked if Tuitt has a remote chance of playing against the Vikings, Tomlin said, “He does.”

Tuitt, who signed a six-year, $61.05 million contract Saturday, made two big plays to start the game in Cleveland, including stopping running back Isaiah Crowell for a 9-yard loss on second down. It was on that play when he injured his arm and never returned.

Meantime, Tomlin said backup safety J.J. Wilcox, who was involved in a goal-line collision against the Browns, is in concussion protocol.

Tomlin said the number of penalties in Cleveland — 13 for 144 yards — “kills drives, kills balance and reduces the number of snaps (55).” The Steelers scored only two touchdowns and managed just 290 yards on offense.

“You can chalk it up to Le’Veon missing camp or whatever, but the reality is it puts you behind chains and the point total is going to reflect that,” Tomlin said.

Also, Tomlin said an unnecessary roughness penalty against cornerback William Gay was called after the officials watched the play on the stadium replay board. Tomlin, a member of the league’s competition committee, said “I’m all for player safety, but I don’t accept that.”


Damn good news.

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Joe Starkey: What does T.J. Watt do for an encore?

T.J. Watt is nothing if not economical.

Watch him rush the quarterback. There is barely any wasted motion. Now listen to him talk. There is none.

The Steelers’ rookie linebacker moves quickly toward the point, whether he is discussing the prospect of breaking out some new pass-rush moves (“I guess you’ll have to wait and see”) or identifying why, precisely, he believes the Steelers took him 30th overall in April’s NFL Draft.

“I’m here for a reason,” Watt told me two days before his NFL debut in Cleveland, where he would square off against Hall of Famer-in-waiting Joe Thomas.

Reason being?

“Pass rush.”

A little more than 48 hours later, after a 21-18 victory, the Steelers included these little nuggets in their postgame notes:

• “Watt became the third player in NFL history to record 2.0 sacks and an interception in an NFL debut, joining Charles Glaze (Oct. 4, 1987) and Tommy Haynes (Oct. 4, 1987).”

• “Watt is the first Steeler with at least 2.0 sacks in his NFL debut since sacks became an official statistic in 1982 (previous mark: 1.5, Kenny Davidson, Sept. 9, 1990 at Cleveland).”

On the first note, it should be mentioned that Charles Glaze, a converted wishbone quarterback from South Carolina State, and Tommy Haynes, a Southern Cal cornerback who picked off Mike Tomczak in the Rose Bowl, were replacement players during the NFL players’ strike of 1987 — Glaze in Seattle, Haynes in Dallas.

In reality, then, Watt became the first legitimate NFL player with a two-sack, one-pick debut. Not even older bro J.J. could boast of such a feat.

On the second note, Kenny Davidson, a defensive end out of LSU, could serve as a reminder that one game does not necessarily foretell a season or a career. He sacked Oilers star Warren Moon the next week but recorded only one sack the rest of his rookie season. He finished with a respectable 16 sacks in 93 NFL games with three teams. But it wasn’t Kenny Davidson I thought of as Watt’s day progressed.

It was Jarvis Jones.

Watt, after all, is essentially replacing Jones, who instead of becoming the Steelers’ Next Great Pass Rusher became an all-time Great Draft Bust. Amazingly, Watt accomplished nearly as much in one game as Jones did in his entire four-year career here.

If that sounds mean, I apologize. I’m just the messenger. Read it and weep:

• Jones: 50 games, six sacks, two interceptions.

• Watt: One game, two sacks, one interception.

That said, this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-Sunday league, so there’s a new question regarding Watt: What can he do for an encore?

He faces another stiff challenge in Minnesota Vikings left tackle Riley Reiff — a player the Vikings lavished with a $58.75 million contract in free agency. Reiff is part of an entirely new line that will be playing its first road game together and battling the Heinz Field “mystique” (or so Big Ben hopes). He was perfect Monday night against New Orleans, allowing no quarterback pressures.

Vikings quarterback Sam Bradford was sacked just once and hit twice. That must change, assuming he plays despite a knee issue, because when Bradford has time, he is more accurate than a calculator. He completed an NFL-record 71.6 percent of his passes last season and upped that 84.4 (27 of 32) against the Saints.

Watt will go into his first career home game with the same mindset he took to Cleveland. The same he took into every game at Wisconsin, too, and quite frankly the same that emanates from his locker stall — in the far corner, next to Ben Roethlisberger’s — on a quiet Friday afternoon.

Which is to say, a disarming mix of death-stare intensity, light-hearted humility and eerie calm.

“A lot of people say I’m very calm outside of football,” Watt said. “But then once I’m on the field, it’s go time. There’s no time to wait. It’s time to go and really showcase your talents.”

Watt insists he does not feel nerves (it’s more likely the butterflies in his stomach are so scared of him they curl into a ball).

“If you’re nervous before a game, it means you didn’t prepare the right way,” Watt said. “I feel like before games I’m pretty calm. I usually feel really good about how I prepared that week, and I’m just ready to go.”

He better be, because once the ball's kicked off Sunday afternoon, Cleveland will be a distant memory.

Sam Bradford will be front and center.

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:smh: This offense does not look good. Gonna need a defensive score to seal this game. Vikings fake punt was stupid as fuck. :smh:

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Gerry Dulac's report card: Chicago Bears 23, Steelers 17

Quarterback

The malaise that has infected the offense includes the quarterback, who has been too inconsistent to convert third downs (4 of 11) and mount drives. Ben Roethlisberger missed on 17 passes against the Bears and lost a fumble on a sack. The lone exception came when he was 7 of 9 for 63 yards on the first TD drive. Maybe the offense that is alleged to have so many dangerous weapons isn’t so dangerous after all.

Grade: D

Running backs

It is apparent the Steelers are going to run Le’Veon Bell until he starts to look like Le’Veon Bell — if he does. Right now, Bell looks more like a plow horse, grinding out tough yards instead of looking the way the Bears looked against the Steelers. He had 61 yards rushing and 37 receiving against the Bears, but his longest run was 13 yards. Conversely, the Bears had eight runs of 13 yards or longer.

Grade: D-

Receivers

If not for Antonio Brown, the offense would be even more dreadful than it already appears. He had 10 catches for 110 yards and had his first touchdown of the season, but he was targeted just four times in the second half even though the Steelers were trailing. Otherwise, Martavis Bryant and JuJu Smith-Schuster combined for four catches and 69 yards. Eli Rogers was shut out.

Grade: D+

Offensive line

The numbers looked respectable — 17 carries for 70 yards rushing — but the results do not. Roethlisberger was sacked three times, lost a fumble on one, and was under a lot of pressure from the Bears defensive line. Part of that was because they played most of the game without two starters — Marcus Gilbert and Ramon Foster (hand). Like everything else with the offense, there is no consistency.

Grade: F

Defensive line

It didn’t matter which way the Bears ran the stretch play — left or right — the Steelers couldn’t stop it, especially in overtime. The Bears rushed for 220 yards, the most since Miami had 222 against them in October 2016, and averaged 5.8 yards on 38 carries. It was so bad the Bears had nine runs of 10 or more yards, including four of at least 18 yards. Three of those came in overtime.

Grade: F

Linebackers

Missed tackles and blown gaps are often the culprits when teams use a zone-blocking scheme to shred a defense. And the result of that are cutback runs to the weak side, which is how the Bears tore through the Steelers and exploited the linebackers. The most glaring came when Jordan Howard, who had 138 yards on 23 carries, scored on a 19-yard run in OT. Howard had seven runs of 11 yards or longer.

Grade: F

Secondary

Because the Bears had such success running the ball, the Bears didn’t really need to test the secondary, not that Mike Glennon could. He passed for 101 yards on 22 attempts and didn’t have a completion longer than 17 yards. He was also picked off by S J.J. Wilcox. His best throw was a 17-yarder on second-and-16 that kept alive their second TD drive. Still, where was the secondary on those runs in overtime?

Grade: D

Special teams

After two games of making significant plays, the Steelers gave two when Eli Rogers fumbled the first punt, leading to a touchdown, and Chris Boswell’s 36-yard field goal was blocked and returned for what looked to be a 73-yard TD return. The only good news was the hustle shown by TE Vance McDonald to chase down Marcus Cooper and force a fumble at the goalline.

Grade: F

Coaching

The offense that is supposed to be so productive has been anything but for three games. They can’t run or throw with any amount of consistency and would be in big trouble without Antonio Brown. Not only was the defense shredded by the Bears running game, they did nothing to adjust and stop the stretch play that was killing them the entire game. And it’s another road loss to a team they were favored to beat.

Grade: F

Just a disgrace overall

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The Steelers offense has flopped through three games

It is time to bury all those superlatives used to describe the Steelers offense like a Le’Veon Bell dive into the middle of his no-holes-found line Sunday in Chicago.

High-powered? Multi-talented? Best in the NFL?

After three games, the most accurate way to describe the Steelers offense is this:

Dud.

What looked to be their most dynamic offense in years has no sense of rhythm. If they were a movie, they would title it “Ordinary People,” which also happened to take place near Chicago. That offense had one good drive Sunday in a 17-point effort in Chicago with its other two scores coming on short series after its defense gave it the ball deep in Bears territory.

This comes after so-so performances through the first two games. They scored just 14 offensive points against what had been the 31st-ranked 2016 defense in a three-point win at Cleveland, and just two more touchdowns in a home win against Minnesota in its second game.

And now the Bears, 2-15 since the start of 2016, outplayed them.

The Steelers offense that allegedly has some of the best talent in the league with Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, Martavis Bryant, Le’Veon Bell and an acclaimed line has looked pedestrian.

The question becomes, can this offense be anywhere near as good as advertised going forward?

“I don’t know anymore,” All-Pro guard David DeCastro said. “We’ve got to start proving it. I’m tired of talking about potential. It’s the worst word ever. We have to start doing something with it.”

“Paper champions” one Steelers player screeched years ago, mocking the then-Tampa Bay Buccaneers for not fulfilling all of their so-called promise. That term now might fit the Steelers offense.

“This is the NFL,” DeCastro said. “You don’t just put numbers on paper and stats and people and expect it just to work. Guys have to be on the same page, guys have to be working together. It’s a team sport. That’s why it’s not track and field where we just go out there and run sprints. It takes teamwork.”

Their NFL rankings sum up how the Steelers have performed on offense. Heading into a Monday night game between Dallas and Arizona, the Steelers ranked 22nd with a 302.3-yard average, 16th passing (233.3) and tied for 29th rushing (69.0). Their 3.1-yard average per run was tied for 28th.

They rank slightly better at 15th in points produced with 21.3 per game, but their special teams scored one touchdown and their defense set the ball on a tee for them with two turnovers deep Sunday in Chicago territory, not that those units came in for much glory either in the 23-17 overtime loss to the Bears.

Brown is about their only player on offense playing up to snuff. He led everyone with 10 receptions for 110 yards and got to perform his first touchdown dance Sunday. He has 26 receptions for 354 yards in three games.

Bell is off to a disappointing start after taking the entire year off until six days before the regular-season opener. He ran for 61 yards on 15 carries Sunday, although in his defense there weren’t many holes to find in a line that was missing tackle Marcus Gilbert with an injury and then lost guard Ramon Foster to a thumb injury in the first half. He was the third-best back in Soldier Field, as Chicago’s Jordan Howard ran for 138 yards (6.0 yards per carry) and two touchdowns and rookie Tarik Cohen added 78 (6.5).

Bell has 180 yards rushing in three games and a 3.5-yard average. He has 13 receptions for 56 yards, a 4.3 average.

Perhaps when coach Mike Tomlin said this summer that Bell’s absence in training camp eventually would have “consequences” he didn’t just mean to the back. The entire offense seems out of sync.

“We haven’t played any bad defenses,” reasoned Foster.

That can be debated, but what can’t be argued is that the Steelers offense hasn’t performed anywhere near not just expectations by the public but among themselves.

The quarterback has to take blame for his offense’s poor showing, and to his credit, Roethlisberger did on a day in which he lost a fumble on a sack and completed just 22 of 39 passes.

“I think I was off,” he said of the game Sunday against Chicago. “For whatever reason, I did not make all the throws I normally would and make the plays I normally should, and that is why I think we lost the game.”

That was Roethlisberger at his most accurate of the week.

“Back to the drawing board,” DeCastro said.

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Alejandro Villanueva: 'I feel embarrassed' by anthem foul-up

Alejandro Villanueva said he never intended to stand alone during the national anthem on Sunday and apologized to his teammates and coach Mike Tomlin for what he called “a very embarrassing” botching of the team’s pregame plan.

“Every single time I see that picture of me standing by myself, I feel embarrassed,” Villanueva said.

“We butchered our plan.”

President Donald Trump said on Friday that NFL teams should fire players who kneel for the anthem in protest of racial injustice, which led to increased demonstrations across the league and dialogue among teams, including the Steelers.

Villanueva, an Army Ranger who was deployed in Afghanistan, said he asked quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and the rest of the team’s leaders to amend their original idea, agreed upon after a Saturday night team meeting, which was to stand in the locker room during the anthem in an attempted show of unity. Part of the reason Villanueva pushed for change: he’d received texts from wounded veterans asking him to stand for the anthem.

Villanueva’s suggestion, he said, was to stand with Roethlisberger and the team’s other captains at the front of the tunnel. That didn’t work out due to, as Roethlisberger said, pregame “chaos” in a small area, and Villanueva was left to stand alone with his teammates about 20 feet behind him.

“The crazy thing about that is, when we came out of the tunnel, we told Al to come stand up front with the captains. Cam, myself and [Tyler Matakevich],” Roethlisberger said.

“When we came out of the locker room into that tunnel, it was a very small area. There was a flag or something coming off the field so there were a bunch of Bears fans, coming off the field holding that [and] going in front of us, so it kind of held us up.”

The end result was Villanueva, hand on his heart and mouthing the words to the song, standing apart from his teammates. It was widely perceived, with sound enough logic, that he’d gone rogue.

Villanueva took sole responsibility for the mix-up and said that “very few players” knew that he’d planned to head to the tunnel because he went directly to the captains with his idea.

“How would you feel if you were somebody who really wants to go out there and stand for the national anthem, and you didn’t know that there was a player that was going to stand in the tunnel from a [better] vantage point? I would be really [mad],” he said.

“They’re getting negative feedback because they didn’t stand up for the national anthem when in reality, they would’ve done it. They were fighting to stand up for the national anthem.”

He also made a point to say that he did not take offense to players who have chosen to take a knee during the anthem in protest of “injustices and racial divide,” including former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who knelt for the anthem in protest of police brutality and racial injustice last season.

“I take no offense,” Villanueva said. “I don’t think veterans at the end of the day take any offense. They actually signed up and fought so that somebody could take a knee and protest peacefully whatever it is that their hearts desire.”

Continually, Villanueva apologized to the rest of the team.

“I made coach Tomlin look bad, and that is my fault and my fault only,” he said. “I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault and my fault only.

“When everybody sees an image of me standing by myself, everybody thinks that the team and Steelers are not behind me, and that’s absolutely wrong. It’s quite the opposite. Actually, the entire team would’ve been out there with me, even the ones that wanted to take a knee.”

He should have stayed his fuckin ass back with his linemen if this is the case then. He did what he wanted to do and it backfired. :angry:

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Steelers say national anthem decision caused them to lose focus

Did the Chicago Bears pull an upset Sunday because the Steelers lost focus after agonizing for two days over their decision to skip the national anthem?

At least two Steelers veterans said it did, and that brought a strong response from Mike Tomlin during a Tuesday press conference that dealt mostly with what occurred before their 23-17 overtime loss in Chicago.

“We truly lacked the focus that we needed to,” linebacker Arthur Moats said on the 93.7 The Fan Morning Show Tuesday. “Man, we spent a lot of time going from Saturday, Sunday morning to even today discussing the anthem issue and how we were going to handle it and things like that, and I thought that guys just lacked a little bit of focus when it came to playing in the game.”


The Steelers had a players’ meeting Saturday night to discuss what they wanted to do during the anthem. Tomlin wanted his players to decide the issue but suggested whatever they came up with, they should do together. They struggled with their decision into Sunday.

Then they struggled once the game started. They entered as 7.5-point favorites to beat the Bears, who were 3-13 last season and 0-2 in this one, and left losers for the first time in three games. They allowed 220 yards rushing on defense, their offense produced little and their special teams lost a fumbled punt and had a field goal blocked.

“It showed,” Moats said. “We lacked a lot of detail from missed tackles to missed assignments to drops to messed-up special teams, stuff like that as well. So for us we know that we have to focus on football. For us to be the team we’re capable of being, week-in and week-out, we have to focus 100 percent. This isn’t like high school where you can just show up in a stadium and guys are going to be scared of you.”

Ben Roethlisberger, who said he got little sleep Saturday night, agreed when he was asked about Moats’ opinion on “The Cook and Poni Show “on 93.7 later Tuesday morning.

“I do,” said Roethlisberger, who added he did not want to make excuses but that the anthem decision “was definitely on a lot of our minds, a lot of our hearts, dealing with everything we were dealing with the night before, up later than usual, the distractions, whatever it is.”

He added that, “We just weren’t on our details,” but also said they just have to play better.

Still, 14 other teams who wrestled with anthem decisions over the weekend won their games, including the Bears. And that is pretty much how Tomlin approached the topic when told his players thought the distraction may have cost them the game in Chicago.

“Sure there’s a potential for that, but this is professional football, professional sports; distractions are part of it,” Tomlin said. “If we’re as good as we desire to be, it comes with distractions. If you’re a team on a Super Bowl run, January and February are anything but normal.

“I always embrace the distractions that come with the journey because I think it prepares you for the journey if you’re good. Good teams deal with distractions. There’s a certain amount of fanfare that comes with being good. It is our desire to be good. We embrace the distractions that come along with it, and hopefully the lessons that we learn along our journey prepare us to be good. Hopefully we learn something from this past week’s experiences in terms of being able to be singley focused in the midst of a potential storm that is outside of our control. I don’t view those things as a negative.

“Was it a distraction? I’m sure it was in a lot of ways but we still have a job to do and hopefully we learn from it because if we’re as good as we desire to be there are going to be distractions moving forward. That’s just the nature of this thing. It’s professional football.”

Mike Mitchell catches that interception we win. Nigga needs to catch that fuckin ball!!!!

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Injured Ramon Foster says he'll play: 'It's Baltimore week'

Left guard Ramon Foster did not practice Wednesday or Thursday, but he was on the practice field when he needed to be Friday morning. If he had missed a third consecutive practice, Foster, who is dealing with an injured right hand, would have been unable to play Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens.

In Foster’s mind, there was never any doubt he would play.

“It’s Baltimore week,” Foster said. “I said Tuesday I was going to play.”

Foster injured his hand early in the loss to Chicago when he tried to pounce on a fumble. He did not break any bones, but the pain was so intense that it prevented him from re-entering the game.

“It was pretty bad on Sunday,” Foster said. “My hand got trapped. It was an ordeal to say the least.

“I played with a broken [hand] in college. This is nothing new. I’ll be good to go.”

While Foster appears to be ready to play, the status of right tackle Marcus Gilbert is less certain. Gilbert, who missed the Bears game with a hamstring injury, went through a full practice Wednesday, but he was limited Thursday and Friday. The Steelers officially list Foster and Gilbert as questionable.

Also listed as questionable are starting safeties Mike Mitchell (hamstring) and Sean Davis (ankle) and linebacker James Harrison, who missed practice Friday due to an illness.

Mitchell has never missed a game since coming to the Steelers in 2014. If Mitchell and Davis can’t play, the Steelers will turn to reserves J.J. Wilcox and Robert Golden. Wilcox filled in against the Bears after Davis left the game.

The good news for the Steelers is rookie outside linebacker T.J. Watt and defensive end Stephon Tuitt are not on the injury report. Watt missed the Bears game with a groin injury, and Tuitt missed the past two games with a biceps injury.

Good. We need Ramon out there.

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Gerry Dulac's report card: Steelers 26, Baltimore Ravens 9

Quarterback


Ben Roethlisberger’s mission was to not turn the ball over and don’t take needless chances against the Ravens, and for the most part he did that. He set a tone early with a 16-play opening drive that lasted 10 ½ minutes and scored on four of the first five possessions. After a couple early red-zone trips resulted in a field goals, Roethlisberger converted the next two opportunities into TDs, the latter on 11-yard pass to JuJu Smith-Schuster.

Grade: B+

Running backs

Le’Veon Bell said he wasn’t a “special player” in the first three games, but he was against the Ravens. He carried 35 times, most by Ravens opponent in 14 years) and finished with 144 yards, including three runs of at least 16 yards. The longest was a 21-yarder on a drive in which he carried six times and scored the TD. Rookie James Conner provided a nice lift with a 23-yard run on the opening drive that was the team’s longest of the season.

Grade: A+

Receivers

Antonio Brown had a modest game with only four catches, just one in the second half, and he longest completion was a modest 24 yards. But there were several key catches that kept alive scoring drives by Jesse James and JuJu Smith-Schuster, who had an 11-yard TD and a 19-yard conversion on third down. And Martavis Bryant had back-to-back catches of 24 and 19-yard to set up the second TD.

Grade: B

Offensive line

The Steelers used a number of plays with six offensive linemen (B.J. Finney was a tackle eligible) to get their running game going, and it worked. The Steelers finished with 173 yards rushing, most since they had 240 last season in Buffalo, and averaged 4.1 yards on 42 attempts. What’s more, they finally popped some big runs with gains of 16, 17, 21 and 23 yards. Chris Hubbard filled in well enough for RT Marcus Gilbert that Roethlisberger was sacked just once.

Grade: A

Defensive line

It looked like it might be another long day against the run when the Ravens had a 22-yard gain on the first play and a 50-yard gain on the first run play of the second half. Otherwise, the Ravens had 10 yards on 13 other rushes. It was another monster game for Cam Heyward, who had two sacks and forced and recovered a fumble that led to the first TD. Stephon Tuitt returned after two-game absence and had a sack and big stop on third-and-2 that led to second TD.

Grade: A

Linebackers


If Heyward controlled the front line, Ryan Shazier roamed the second level and made any number of big plays. He forced a 4-yard loss on the Heyward fumble recovery, had an interception in the fourth quarter and tipped a pass that Mike Hilton returned 19 yards to set up the final touchdown. Oh yeah, and he led the team with 11 tackles. Still, the Steelers gave up runs of 22 and 50 yards on zone-blocking plays.

Grade: A-

Secondary

Joe Flacco’s reluctance to attack downfield is mystifying, given his arm strength, but it played right into the Steelers hands. He didn’t have a completion longer than 9 yards in the first half and 16 after halftime, despite attempting 49 passes. Mike Hilton continues to make himself noticed as the nickel back, getting a sack and interception that led to the final TD. J.J. Wilcox missed a tackle on the 50-yard run that set up the Ravens first TD.

Grade: A

Special teams

Chris Boswell missed another field goal, but he converted from 30 and 49 yards on two of the first three possessions when the Steelers stumbled in the red zone. Jordan Berry continues to struggle with any punt that’s not inside the 50, averaging just 37.5 yards on five punts. But a word of advice to all kickoff returners: Stay in the end One and take the ball at the 25.

Grade: C

Coaching

Any questions how the Steelers would respond to a week of fan anger and vitriol were answered in an impressive way. Keith Butler probably didn’t like it when his defense allowed a 22-yard run on the first play of the game, but the unit settled down and had four sacks, two interceptions and allowed only one touchdown. And the offense set the tone with a lengthy opening drive and scores on four of their first five possessions.

Grade: A+

Great win overall.

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I wonder if there is still some strife going on behind the scenes. They seem so NOT connected. I dunno what I'm seeing really but with Browns temper tamtrum and Ben's bullshit statement and the whole standing/ kneeling thing and them not even agreeing on how to tackle it that weekend - I just wonder. I know that was weeks ago but even in winning, they just don't seem right. I'm not even gonna speak on the secondary.


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Nope. Crakka looks real real bad. Need to ramp up the development of Dobbs. Jones is not the future at all.

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Did Dobbs play? To me they should have put him after the 3rd pick.

Funny thing is as much as I hate losing I can almost deal with this loss because from what I could tell it was a total asswhooping. The Bears loss hurt more because that was a winnable game.
 
Here's what I don't understand about the Steelers and Keith Butler. Why........WHY wouldn't you stack 8 in the box consistently when playing QB's like Borttles and Mike Glennon. Force them to throw. Neither team has wideouts and all they want to do is run. Yet, you have a base defense out there against these garbage ass QB's all the time and open running lanes. Plug the damn holes and force them to throw!! GOD-FUCKIN-DAMN!!! SHITS NOT HARD TO FIGURE THE FUCK OUT!!! :pain::pain::pain::pain:

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Did Dobbs play? To me they should have put him after the 3rd pick.

Funny thing is as much as I hate losing I can almost deal with this loss because from what I could tell it was a total asswhooping. The Bears loss hurt more because that was a winnable game.
Dobbs didn't dress. Watch they beat the shit outta KC next week in KC. They always lose to teams they should beat and the following week beat the shit out of a good opponent.

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....and of course the Ravens are up over the Raiders. Fucking cocksuckers. :angry:

Dobbs didn't dress. Watch they beat the shit outta KC next week in KC. They always lose to teams they should beat and the following week beat the shit out of a good opponent.

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My concern is securing the Division and getting some separation over the Patriots. We should be two games up on BOTH of them.
 
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