Official 2016-2017 season NY Giants Thread

Mid-season rookie grades. All credit goes to the scouts, because I damn sure ain't giving none to Reese. Perkins could be the best of the bunch. Just have to get him some more touches.

New York Giants’ midseason rookie report card: Grading class of 2016 - (as per Big Blue View)

http://www.bigblueview.com/2016/10/...ard-darian-thompson-paul-perkins-jerell-adams


Man, I get sad every time I think about how our picks get injured and never recover: Smith, nicks, Wilson. And how the hell did we let Linval go.
 
Anyone know if Donnell actually made it on to the flight back from Europe or if they did us a favor and left his fumbling, leapfrogging ass back by Parliament

I'm hoping the bye week is enough practice & prep time to move TE Adams up the depth chart and boot that useless doofus Donnell to the back of the line.

Man, I get sad every time I think about how our picks get injured and never recover: Smith, nicks, Wilson. And how the hell did we let Linval go.

I was just asking myself that and whether Linval would have better for us now than JPP?
 
McAdoo says at least dumbass Donnell ran in the right direction...

Clearly, he didn't want to put too much blame on one position group, because the whole offense sucks... but the TEs have been nothing other than terrible. Very possible we'll see more of Jerell Adams after the bye. :please:


http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2016/11/giants_maintain_faith_in_tight_ends_after_dismal_1.html


I just don't get it. same TE personnel as last year. Terrible production this year. We know Donnell needs to be cut. We've known this for a few years. But what the HELL happened to Tye ? Granted he's nothing special, but he produced as a rookie.

Sign me up for the Jerrell Adams bandwagon. He can definitely block better than Donnell. Hell, Donnell almost caused a safety by missing his block completely against the rams (timestamp: 6:47 in the 3rd, 1st and 10 from the 3).


I was gonna type up a longer post on the Eagles, but my hate for them consumed my desire to hit 'post reply'. We need to beat these motherfuckers some how. The oline will have its hands full .
 
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Looks like Reese is gonna not make any moves even though it's obvious we could use either Joe Staley or Joe Thomas for the o-line :smh:


I would love for it to happen, but those teams may be asking for too much in return. Both are in their 30s (32?). If we add one, we slide Flowers to RT. Someone has to replace John Jerry. He's a decent pass blocker but terrible run blocker. Where does Beatty fit? Why haven't we used Beatty as a TE in our two TE sets?
 
I would love for it to happen, but those teams may be asking for too much in return. Both are in their 30s (32?). If we add one, we slide Flowers to RT. Someone has to replace John Jerry. He's a decent pass blocker but terrible run blocker. Where does Beatty fit? Why haven't we used Beatty as a TE in our two TE sets?

Why haven't we seen Beatty in ANY capacity? Has Hart shown better skill than Beatty could muster? Has WB fallen off that much? Is he just depth at this point? Do we need to see Eli broken, bruised and battered before a change is made?
 
It's sad that it's shown the key to beating Philly down is through the running game and our rushing attack is beyond ass. We're the worst in the league. No wonder our passing game has taken a hit:smh:
 
Imma just leave this right here. . .

:bravo::bravo::cheers::clap:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/05/this-recurring-issue-cost-giants-larry-donnell-his-starting-job/

Larry Donnell knows, as the Giants face the Eagles in a critical NFC East clash Sunday, his playing time will be diminished because he no longer is the starting tight end and he will have to earn back what once was his.

“I’ve been blessed to be up here,” Donnell told The Post this week. “I’ve also been down here, so I know how to fight back from those type of things. It’s not something to be sad about, it’s something to fight about. In practice, when I get opportunities, in a game, which I believe will come again, I make those plays and earn that trust back. That’s how I see it, don’t frown on it, don’t be down on it. Just get better at it and stay better at it.”


Donnell, 28, has not improved nearly enough in the areas that have held him back. His ball-security issues are well-documented. His tall, lean frame does not help him succeed in blocking assignments. With the ball in his hands, it is at times a hold-your-breath situation for the Giants and their fans. On the second offensive play two weeks ago in London, Donnell caught a pass for 8 yards, was hit, and lost the ball on a fumble against the Rams.

“I’ve talked about it but it hasn’t really become instilled in me yet and the ball still came out,” Donnell said. “I got to keep working, just like growing up riding a bike. You fall off of it you’re not gonna get on it the first time and ride down the street and ride two miles. You keep on working at it. Sometimes when I catch it, I’m thinking about getting up field and the thought of holding the ball kinda slips.”

It looks as if Will Tye and rookie Jerell Adams have moved ahead of Donnell as the Giants struggle to sort out their unsettled and non-productive tight end situation. Donnell raised expectations in 2014 when he caught 63 passes — six for touchdowns — but it has been a decline ever since for a player who went undrafted out of Grambling State and worked his way up through the practice squad.

“How I got in this league is a blessing,’’ Donnell said. “I’ve been here for five years now, I never came to work saying, ‘I’m s–t.’ I always fight, always practice hard and that’s what I’m going to continue to do to keep playing.

“Nobody hates me. This is an organization, I think everybody in it wants to win and those type of things I did don’t help us in any way. I didn’t want to do it, I didn’t want to fumble. I got to hold onto the football because that’s what’s expected and that’s what I need to do to keep playing.’’
 
Imma just leave this right here. . .

:bravo::bravo::cheers::clap:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/05/this-recurring-issue-cost-giants-larry-donnell-his-starting-job/

Larry Donnell knows, as the Giants face the Eagles in a critical NFC East clash Sunday, his playing time will be diminished because he no longer is the starting tight end and he will have to earn back what once was his.

“I’ve been blessed to be up here,” Donnell told The Post this week. “I’ve also been down here, so I know how to fight back from those type of things. It’s not something to be sad about, it’s something to fight about. In practice, when I get opportunities, in a game, which I believe will come again, I make those plays and earn that trust back. That’s how I see it, don’t frown on it, don’t be down on it. Just get better at it and stay better at it.”


Donnell, 28, has not improved nearly enough in the areas that have held him back. His ball-security issues are well-documented. His tall, lean frame does not help him succeed in blocking assignments. With the ball in his hands, it is at times a hold-your-breath situation for the Giants and their fans. On the second offensive play two weeks ago in London, Donnell caught a pass for 8 yards, was hit, and lost the ball on a fumble against the Rams.

“I’ve talked about it but it hasn’t really become instilled in me yet and the ball still came out,” Donnell said. “I got to keep working, just like growing up riding a bike. You fall off of it you’re not gonna get on it the first time and ride down the street and ride two miles. You keep on working at it. Sometimes when I catch it, I’m thinking about getting up field and the thought of holding the ball kinda slips.”

It looks as if Will Tye and rookie Jerell Adams have moved ahead of Donnell as the Giants struggle to sort out their unsettled and non-productive tight end situation. Donnell raised expectations in 2014 when he caught 63 passes — six for touchdowns — but it has been a decline ever since for a player who went undrafted out of Grambling State and worked his way up through the practice squad.

“How I got in this league is a blessing,’’ Donnell said. “I’ve been here for five years now, I never came to work saying, ‘I’m s–t.’ I always fight, always practice hard and that’s what I’m going to continue to do to keep playing.

“Nobody hates me. This is an organization, I think everybody in it wants to win and those type of things I did don’t help us in any way. I didn’t want to do it, I didn’t want to fumble. I got to hold onto the football because that’s what’s expected and that’s what I need to do to keep playing.’’



bout time...

we always had a good TE...that shit n lack of a running game killing us...

should never had let Bennett go...i swear our GM gotta go...
 
Imma just leave this right here. . .

:bravo::bravo::cheers::clap:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/05/this-recurring-issue-cost-giants-larry-donnell-his-starting-job/

Larry Donnell knows, as the Giants face the Eagles in a critical NFC East clash Sunday, his playing time will be diminished because he no longer is the starting tight end and he will have to earn back what once was his.

“I’ve been blessed to be up here,” Donnell told The Post this week. “I’ve also been down here, so I know how to fight back from those type of things. It’s not something to be sad about, it’s something to fight about. In practice, when I get opportunities, in a game, which I believe will come again, I make those plays and earn that trust back. That’s how I see it, don’t frown on it, don’t be down on it. Just get better at it and stay better at it.”


Donnell, 28, has not improved nearly enough in the areas that have held him back. His ball-security issues are well-documented. His tall, lean frame does not help him succeed in blocking assignments. With the ball in his hands, it is at times a hold-your-breath situation for the Giants and their fans. On the second offensive play two weeks ago in London, Donnell caught a pass for 8 yards, was hit, and lost the ball on a fumble against the Rams.

“I’ve talked about it but it hasn’t really become instilled in me yet and the ball still came out,” Donnell said. “I got to keep working, just like growing up riding a bike. You fall off of it you’re not gonna get on it the first time and ride down the street and ride two miles. You keep on working at it. Sometimes when I catch it, I’m thinking about getting up field and the thought of holding the ball kinda slips.”

It looks as if Will Tye and rookie Jerell Adams have moved ahead of Donnell as the Giants struggle to sort out their unsettled and non-productive tight end situation. Donnell raised expectations in 2014 when he caught 63 passes — six for touchdowns — but it has been a decline ever since for a player who went undrafted out of Grambling State and worked his way up through the practice squad.

“How I got in this league is a blessing,’’ Donnell said. “I’ve been here for five years now, I never came to work saying, ‘I’m s–t.’ I always fight, always practice hard and that’s what I’m going to continue to do to keep playing.

“Nobody hates me. This is an organization, I think everybody in it wants to win and those type of things I did don’t help us in any way. I didn’t want to do it, I didn’t want to fumble. I got to hold onto the football because that’s what’s expected and that’s what I need to do to keep playing.’’
Thank you football gods. I was beyond tired of cringing every time the ball was in his hands . I swear it was gonna result in either him being flipped over or fumbling every time .
 
Word has it Vernon has been playing with a shattered hand, essentially leaving him playing with 1 hand, but it's starting to get better. Hopefully we'll see that in his pass rushing today .
 
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