it's like you just woke up after a 15 year nap.
duncan was never a big time scorer?
ahhh man.
and while playing with westbrook durant has won the scoring title how many years?
but somehow he's robbing durant from scoring 60 points a night i guess
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it's like you just woke up after a 15 year nap.
duncan was never a big time scorer?
ahhh man.
and while playing with westbrook durant has won the scoring title how many years?
but somehow he's robbing durant from scoring 60 points a night i guess
Westbrook is Westbrook no matter who's coaching him...
Comparing Westbrook and Tony Parker?... Blasphemy...
You sound crazy. Scott Brooks is a good coach. I hate when people praise the players for wins but place all the blame on the coaches when they lose.
Stop disrespecting Miami bruh. The reason OKC does not have a title is because Miami beat their ass.
Westbrook is Westbrook no matter who's coaching him...
Comparing Westbrook and Tony Parker?... Blasphemy...
man please. let's just act like parker wasn't molded into the player he is today. like popovich and him didn't butt heads when he first came over here. like this isn't years of correcting and yelling at parker that has turned him into the 1a best point guard in the nba.
the only player that came ready made was duncan and even HE got coached.
you can't speculate and say westbrook will be westbrook no matter what.
but we have proof that pop actually coaches and molds players the right way.
and even if you don't believe that, if you're going to be completely honest and unbiased. the entire difference between what parker does and can do and what westbrook does and can do is the mental aspect of the game.. and who shapes that?
Dude, you're straight up disrespecting Tony Parker.
All around.. Paul is better...
Rondo is right up there.. as a point guard going off the definition... those cats are the type I'd want running my team... the knock on Rondo .. is lack of shooting....,but with scorers..
Parker makes FAR better decisions. Now you can say Parker is smarter because of Pop but that's up for debate. What's not up for debate is that Parker doesn't look games for SA with dumb ass shots.
Man please gtfoh
this is the only time im gonna address you too.
scott brooks is the coach because they fucked around drafted kevin durant, westbrook ibaka and harden.
simple as that.
he got the job because seattle was shitty and in transition.
he is keeping his job because durant and westbrook win enough games to keep him employed.
everyone outside of you knows this to be fact.
now
miami series, they won 4-1
every game was close and came down to the last moments except the last one true or not?
Comparing Parker to Westbrook is silly. It would not matter who is coaching Westbrook. Westbrook will still be Westbrook
it's like you just woke up after a 15 year nap.
duncan was never a big time scorer?
ahhh man.
and while playing with westbrook durant has won the scoring title how many years?
but somehow he's robbing durant from scoring 60 points a night i guess
Yup, at his peek he was 25 a game for one year, his 5th year in the league.... then he never got over 23 a game........Now compare that to CB , mail man and Dirk.....all who are considered to be top 5 PF's. But, I digress ol great one of basketball knowledge.
sarcasm doesn't do anything to me.
i don't claim to be anything. we can talk about basketball or you can act how you're acting.
This comment can't be realistic. The team has clearly regressed. Harden was a proven 3rd option, they don't have that now. They didn't lose 4-2 or 4-3 they lost 4-1. They don't have a ring is because Lebron James is the best player in the world.
so coaches don't matter then? i know by the morning it'll turn into some bullshit about me saying westbrook is better than parker, i accept that fact.
fact is when i asked what is the difference skills wise, there was no rebuttal. because if you're being honest there isn't.
and the fact is that coaching has made a world of difference for parker.
all anyone says is "westbrook would be westbrook" based off of what they feel, not off of fact.
brooks is a horrible coach. everyone who has gotten better got better on their own. he should have been fired and replaced with cheeks when they had the chance.
Lebron is the best player in the world. that's not up for debate.
the games were close coaching can win or lose games
i have said from day 1 you can get away with questionable coaching decisions when you have the #1 player...nobody else can.
brooks had no answer made no adjustments in tight games, and then the wheels fell of. NOW me saying that they don't have a ring because of brooks doesn't mean i believe they should've won that season. don't take it literal, i mean that brooks had a championship team and had no idea how to make them one. i have never questioned the heats championship on here. so i don't want the droves of heat fans on my case for some shit i never said.
the only thing i have ever said specifically about that series is that ibaka choked after talking all that shit and that james harden came up extra smedium when it mattered the most. that's it. just to clear that up.
Stop, man you're the one on the bullshit....15 year nap....I've been watching Bball since 5 or 6 years old.....Duncan was never a big scorer is a fact.......compare his number to Mailman, Barkley and Dirk. My point is proven
With a healthy team the only time Scott Brooks has lost in the playoffs in the last few years was to the eventual NBA Champion and you say he sucks? By reading your post you act as if OKC was losing to 8th seed teams.
His team put on a clinic against the Spurs who everyone said was like a "Machine". But you arm chair coaches can't give credit or just admit that they lost to a better team.
This logic kills me. What coach in the history of winning games has won without talent? To win a coach needs talent so of course Westbrook and Durant will carry the team.
So you blame Scott Brooks for losing the Miami series when his team played the two time NBA champs to within a possession and basket of winning? Got damn your expectations are high and unrealistic.
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You telling me starting a team you'd pick Parker over Chris Paul ?
Chris Paul..
Better rebounder..
Defender
More steals
Assist kills parker...
Better Fg percentage..
better 3pt percentage
Better Free throw shooter
better win share percentage.. Chris Paul Has a win share Higher than Magic Johnson and Jerry West... ,but lower than Oscar Fucking Robinson.. that's all time greats...
I know fans love the "scoring point guard"..
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Bills, please tell me Westbrook is your cousin or some shit... You be riding for this dude HARD man...
Listen, Westbrook has to show and prove for me to change my opinion, man. When I say "Westbrook is going to be Westbrook", I'm basing it on the fact he was who he is today before Scott Brooks.. So how are you going to blame the way he plays now on Scott Brooks when he's the same Westbrook that he was at UCLA?..
Westbrook is better than Parker. Hell most will agree that Westbrook is probably the top 3 guard if not the best in the league.
The problem is he does not make the players around him better the way Parker does. No one is aguing his talent but just his style of play.
Westbrook is Westbrook no matter who's coaching him...
Comparing Westbrook and Tony Parker?... Blasphemy...
Parker is a much better decision maker than West brook right now
Parker wouldn't have shot that three....Westbrook is very talented ,but an Adrenaline junkie
Bills, please tell me Westbrook is your cousin or some shit... You be riding for this dude HARD man...
Listen, Westbrook has to show and prove for me to change my opinion, man. When I say "Westbrook is going to be Westbrook", I'm basing it on the fact he was who he is today before Scott Brooks.. So how are you going to blame the way he plays now on Scott Brooks when he's the same Westbrook that he was at UCLA?..
Thank you!
Dude is the exact same player he was at UCLA.
Bills, please tell me Westbrook is your cousin or some shit... You be riding for this dude HARD man...
Listen, Westbrook has to show and prove for me to change my opinion, man. When I say "Westbrook is going to be Westbrook", I'm basing it on the fact he was who he is today before Scott Brooks.. So how are you going to blame the way he plays now on Scott Brooks when he's the same Westbrook that he was at UCLA?..
West Brook and AI...Are super Type A no fear type of players... that also leads to fuck up choices.. type of cats that'll have you happy one play angry the next...
The Basketball gods are Fair.. Russell Westbrook with Chris Paul or Rondos decision making ?....
it would be like if Lebron could shoot like Steph Curry
Westbrook was the only reason the thunder even had a chance to even be in the damn game
Yeah until he was unable to drive hole then he went to turnovers and terrible jumpers. Plus those 2 and 1's wasn't even fouls.
Bills, please tell me Westbrook is your cousin or some shit... You be riding for this dude HARD man...
Listen, Westbrook has to show and prove for me to change my opinion, man. When I say "Westbrook is going to be Westbrook", I'm basing it on the fact he was who he is today before Scott Brooks.. So how are you going to blame the way he plays now on Scott Brooks when he's the same Westbrook that he was at UCLA?..
what is his assist average today.
and what was it at ucla.
im not riding for him extra hard.
what have i said that isn't true.
you keep pointing to college. that's your argument
and you keep ignoring his nba game. you keep ignoring his assists climbing every year he's been in the league. ignoring him averaging 8 per currently with 3 legit triple doubles so far in the playoffs.
you just keep saying ucla lol.
Parker is a much better decision maker than West brook right now
Parker wouldn't have shot that three....Westbrook is very talented ,but an Adrenaline junkie
and again. you are completing acting like parker came to he nba with his current decision making abilities.
that is the entire point. and you guys keep making it for me.
skills wise there is no difference. but parker did not come into the nba like this, he was made this way by a hof coach.
but that will continue to be ignored.
every rebuttal has not been about his skills it has been about his decision making his shot selection everything that falls under coaching
like on that play late in the game reggie brooks didn't ignore a wide open durant to try to take it to the rim himself
now either reggie has been listening to westbrook or MAYBE just maybe that's what scott brooks preaches and coaches.
who dictates the style of play?
How good would westbrook be if Durant wasn't demanding so much attention? Westbrook is just like Lebron you stop them from driving hole they are average players BC they can't depend on their jumpers. I guess everyone already forgot how well okc played without him and that since he came back they have been a average team. If Westbrook wanted to he can lead the league in assist but hea too busy trying to prove that's his team
he is not perfect, he ain't even near what he could be with proper coaching.
and that should scare people.
shit durant isn't even as far along as he COULD BE.
if yall gonna sit here and say that brooks is a quality coach then i don't know what to tell you.
shit
look at the fucking clippers
last year with the same fucking players they had absolutely NO half court offense NOT NONE. it was chris dribble and hope for the best in the half court.
insert doc rivers and now they fucking move the ball like a machine.
now did they just learn how to play basketball in the playoffs all of a sudden? or did a great coach take over and show them the fucking way..
the beauty of this statement is, there is no way you can do it without double or triple teaming them.
1 on 1 you cannot stop them from getting to the rim if they want to get there period.
Now
in these 2014 playoffs
as of the time im typing this
chris paul has 110 assists
russel westbrook has 91
the next closest person on the list is deron williams with 61
chris paul is creating 23 points a game from his assists
westbrook is creating 20 that's #1 and 2 in these playoffs.
total rebounds deandre jordan is leading with 144
who is number 5? westbrook with 96
parker has 82 points on drives in these playoffs
wesbtrook has 84
paul is leading in pull up shots at 10 per game. 114 points total
westbrook is 2 9.5 a game 104 points.
this took about 2 seconds to go to nba.com and see.
and everyone is acting like im just making shit up.
in these 2014 playoffs
as of the time im typing this
chris paul has 110 assists
russel westbrook has 91
the next closest person on the list is deron williams with 61
chris paul is creating 23 points a game from his assists
westbrook is creating 20 that's #1 and 2 in these playoffs.
total rebounds deandre jordan is leading with 144
who is number 5? westbrook with 96
parker has 82 points on drives in these playoffs
wesbtrook has 84
paul is leading in pull up shots at 10 per game. 114 points total
westbrook is 2 9.5 a game 104 points.
this took about 2 seconds to go to nba.com and see.
and everyone is acting like im just making shit up.
Yet Parker is the one who roasts his ass when they play head to head and he also just happens to have a finals MVP under his belt.You telling me starting a team you'd pick Parker over Chris Paul ?
Chris Paul..
Better rebounder..
Defender
More steals
Assist kills parker...
Better Fg percentage..
better 3pt percentage
Better Free throw shooter
better win share percentage.. Chris Paul Has a win share Higher than Magic Johnson and Jerry West... ,but lower than Oscar Fucking Robinson.. that's all time greats...
I know fans love the "scoring point guard"..
Yea and Parker is def more clutch.
That's not my argument... It's my rebuttal to your bullshit argument that somehow Scott Brooks has a hand in the way he plays today... He was the same Shoot First, Second, and Third, 2-Guard in college that he is today...
And his APG average in the regular season is just that... average... Dude barely squeezed into the Top 10 between Jameer Nelson and and Teague...
you cant tell me OKC wont be in the finals
either by their play or league assistance
either by their play or league assistance
And the Heat will wash them niggas up again or maybe not since since they really trying to push Durant lol
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