~--~Official 2012 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread~--~

[AgentCreed]

onathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen

Knicks have absolutely not given Felton assurances that Lin would not be there and he doesn't need them, source said.

Knicks maybe trying to get both Felton and Lin... Felton can play SG...

Suddenly they'd be deep as fuck at the guard, pg spot... but that is so weird...gadz deal to port for felton?

 

[c_commander]

The Minnesota Timberwolves' attempt to acquire restricted free agent Nicolas Batum from the Portland Trail Blazers apparently has devolved into a grudge match -- at least for the Blazers -- that involves far more than the talented young small forward.

The Timberwolves, league sources say, are prepared to sign Batum to a four-year, $46.4 million offer sheet Sunday after repeatedly trying to trade for him. They have offered as many as three future first-round draft picks and even have dangled small forward Derrick Williams, the No. 2 pick in the 2011 draft.

The Blazers have resisted every overture even though multiple sources say Portland management believes $46.4 million is vastly more than Batum is worth.

Batum's desire to leave Portland began last winter when the Blazers offered him an extension that averaged $5 million per year, a source said. That is less than half of what Minnesota is prepared to offer now.
The Timberwolves also tried to orchestrate a deal that would have sent small forward Kyle Korver to the Blazers, along with the future first-round picks, in a three-way deal involving the Chicago Bulls. That, too, was rejected by Portland.


The Bulls agreed to trade Korver to the Atlanta Hawks as part of a three-team deal involving the Timberwolves on Friday night.


This, of course, is not the first time the Blazers and Timberwolves have had trade talks -- and that's part of the problem. Even before the battle for Batum began, the teams were working to resolve a dispute, a league source said.


The Blazers traded swingman Martell Webster to the Timberwolves in a 2010 draft-night trade for Ryan Gomes and the rights to Minnesota's No. 16 pick, Luke Babbitt. The following fall, Webster had back surgery because of a bulging disk. The Blazers were aware of the injury but did not disclose it before the trade, a league source said. The two teams since have been quietly negotiating compensatory terms but have not been able to reach an agreement.

The Timberwolves released Webster on Friday as part of a cost-cutting measure to open salary-cap room for Batum's offer sheet.

That former Blazers guard Brandon Roy has agreed to a two-year, $10 million deal with the Timberwolves also has Portland owner Paul Allen thinking Minnesota is trying to make life difficult for him, a source said.

Roy retired before last season because of degenerative knees. The Blazers still owed him $49 million over three years at the time, but an insurance policy was expected to cover a significant chunk of that. If he returns to play, however, that policy no longer can be invoked and the Blazers are back on the hook for what they owe him, minus the $10 million Minnesota will pay him, sources say. The balance due from the Blazers could be as much as $17 million, one source said.

Timberwolves president David Kahn is from Portland and once covered the team as a sportswriter for The Oregonian, but a team source insists there is no personal element coloring the Timberwolves' interest in Batum or Roy or pursuing damages for Webster. The team even offered to relax its position on Webster in exchange for dealing them Batum.

As for Roy, "He chose Minnesota, and if he weren't playing for them, he'd be playing somewhere else and Paul would still be out that money," a source said.

Neither Blazers general manager Neil Olshey nor Kahn could be reached for comment.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8...a-timberwolves-odds-nicolas-batum-sources-say

Paul Allen is a spiteful muthafucka. Don't want Batum but don't want the T-Wolves to have him either.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Actually according to yahoo and cbs Dolan if this goes down doesn't want to hit the luxury tax which is weird.



also CP3 is only possible if the Clippers sign and trade him but again the knicks have nothing to offer now.

Felton? Kidd?? No. They can't sign him straight out. The only way a trade happens if CP3 pulls a dwight problem is he isn't demanding a trade and Knicks can't sign him in free agency. they have no cap space.

If this happens. This is about money. Which is weird because you would think Dolan has no problem coming out of pocket unless the new CBA has scared even him off

I think Griffin's health is going to have a huge effect on CP3's decision concerning the Clippers. Especially if DHoward ends up in Lakerville, no way he stays with an team who is not a contender at this point. I also think it makes sense for the Knicks not to match Lin, why the hell have him on the knot possibly behind CP3 making all that bread for 2 years...

 

[killa kadafi191]

I doubt that'll work but we'll see

me too but Dwight needs to let coming to BK go. I was reading today. He saw Deron and Joe Johnson press conference and told Fegan and I quote

I gotta get there.

Rumors have it Dwight is so desperate to become a Net he consulted with his agent what would be least amount he could make if he sign with the Nets as a free agent. We all know that Adidas has a 400 million dollar shoe contract waiting for him if he lands in Brooklyn and as Jeff Van Gundy said Dwight is only seeing "dollar signs". I for one have to question Dwight Howard's sanity. We all know Dwight has made some poor choices but this would be insane. Don't get me wrong a line up of Dwight, Brook, Wallace, Johnson and Deron would be the best in the NBA. Dwight might even get some praise for taking a lot less to join a team to make them a contender but this isn't about winning. This never was about winning. This is about Dwight going to a market where he would be the biggest star. Where his biggest competition is Melo. There is a reason Dwight is avoiding Chicago, LA or Oklahoma City. Those teams already have leaders and Dwight wants to be the savior. The guy who resurrected a franchise. You think it's a coincidence Dwight ask for a trade after Lebron and Bosh landed in Florida?

He sees Deron Williams and says "That should be me on a billboard." Nets fans take this warning from someone who has seen the worst and best or Dwight Howard. He doesn't want to join your team because he feels the Nets can help him reach his basketball goals but his financial goals.

This is why I been moving off the wanting Dwight here. He is trying to hard. CP3 has accepted he won't be a Knick and is moving forward cause he wants to win. Dwight hasn't isn't that strange to anyone else?

 

[AgentCreed]

ohhh.. if knicks match Lin that leave Felton to rockets, if knicks get felton then match Lin... Tony Douglass is the rockets starting PG... that's hilarious if true.

 

[AgentCreed]

me too but Dwight needs to let coming to BK go. I was reading today. He saw Deron and Joe Johnson press conference and told Fegan and I quote





This is why I been moving off the wanting Dwight here. He is trying to hard. CP3 has accepted he won't be a Knick and is moving forward cause he wants to win. Dwight hasn't isn't that strange to anyone else?

I'd LOVE to see Dwight sign with BK for the MMLE or MLE... that'd fuck up so many owners...but damn what can BK offer that LA can't?

 

[killa kadafi191]

Tzvi Twersky: Breaking: Kyrie Irving’s hand is in a cast. He most likely broke a bone during practice, according to sources. 3 minutes ago

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
CJ Watson: “I’m excited to join the Nets. I can’t wait to play with all that talent and play for Avery Johnson. I couldn’t be more excited.”

wow CJ Watson great pick up

 

[DAHITMAN]

RAYMND FELTON COMING BACK

 

[sinsay]

Blazers are stupid...no way is Batum worth that contract...AND they turned down 3 first round picks or Derrick Williams for him?

Blazers are gonna regret that contract in 2 years.

 

[LSN]

Dwight ain't gotta do shit but hold on to his stance and refuse to sign nowhere but BROOKLYN...hold on Dwight! Hold the fuck on! Fuck that man I want dude on the team...w/ us signing Brook it @ least gives us a good chance tho to see how the current team gels and gauge whether or not we need Dwight...but Dwight needs to hold tough...just like Melo did...nothing strange about insisting on playing for a team that you want to play for...that's that man's preference that was a good read btw...cats can call Dwight bitch this greedy that but dude plays...he and his team were playing well up until a point even in light of the trade rumors and him wanting to leave...the team just gave up on him after a while cuz enough was enough but dude still played so I'm not worried about his intentions...

me too but Dwight needs to let coming to BK go. I was reading today. He saw Deron and Joe Johnson press conference and told Fegan and I quote





This is why I been moving off the wanting Dwight here. He is trying to hard. CP3 has accepted he won't be a Knick and is moving forward cause he wants to win. Dwight hasn't isn't that strange to anyone else?

 

[AgentCreed]

Rockets playing Dirty Pool... knicks still haven't received Lin OS...

 

[killa kadafi191]

I'd LOVE to see Dwight sign with BK for the MMLE or MLE... that'd fuck up so many owners...but damn what can BK offer that LA can't?

what you mean money wise. If Dwight signs with the Nets for MMLE or the MLE that would be the stupidest move in NBA history.

He needs to go to LA or give Houston a chance. Hell try Dallas. If that happens Stern would be shitting bricks.

Then how many people will claim the Nets are paying him under the table??? Too much unwanted attention.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Rockets playing Dirty Pool... knicks still haven't received Lin OS...

Does the countdown to match start when he signs or when the Knicks receive it?

 

[killa kadafi191]

blazers are stupid...no way is batum worth that contract...and they turned down 3 first round picks or derrick williams for him?

Blazers are gonna regret that contract in 2 years.

wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What???????????????

 

[AgentCreed]

what you mean money wise. If Dwight signs with the Nets for MMLE or the MLE that would be the stupidest move in NBA history.

He needs to go to LA or give Houston a chance. Hell try Dallas. If that happens Stern would be shitting bricks.

Then how many people will claim the Nets are paying him under the table??? Too much unwanted attention.

yes, it'd cause chaotic hilariousness... ESPN would literally explode.... Stern would block it tho... ain't no way a superstar in his prime will leave what...80-90mil on the table for 3mil a season? that'd be hilarious as fuck...imagine the movement that starts? It'd make the CBA worthless.

 

[AgentCreed]

what you mean money wise. If Dwight signs with the Nets for MMLE or the MLE that would be the stupidest move in NBA history.

He needs to go to LA or give Houston a chance. Hell try Dallas. If that happens Stern would be shitting bricks.

Then how many people will claim the Nets are paying him under the table??? Too much unwanted attention.

yes, it'd cause chaotic hilariousness... ESPN would literally explode.... Stern would block it tho... ain't no way a superstar in his prime will leave what...80-90mil on the table for 3mil a season? that'd be hilarious as fuck...imagine the movement that starts? It'd make the CBA worthless.

 

[AgentCreed]

what you mean money wise. If Dwight signs with the Nets for MMLE or the MLE that would be the stupidest move in NBA history.

He needs to go to LA or give Houston a chance. Hell try Dallas. If that happens Stern would be shitting bricks.

Then how many people will claim the Nets are paying him under the table??? Too much unwanted attention.

yes, it'd cause chaotic hilariousness... ESPN would literally explode.... Stern would block it tho... ain't no way a superstar in his prime will leave what...80-90mil on the table for 3mil a season? that'd be hilarious as fuck...imagine the movement that starts? It'd make the CBA worthless.

 

[c_commander]

Rockets playing Dirty Pool... knicks still haven't received Lin OS...

If anything it gives them time to figure out exactly what they want to do instead of rushing to a decision and then regretting it. Houston should have submitted the OS as soon as they could unless they were trying to figure some clause to really screw the Knicks over.

 

[Mask]

Kills remember I was saying Lin is a must have for the Rockets, it's bigger than basketball.
The whole Asia would be renewed Rockets fans. I'm giving dude 5yrs $40 million off top.
Shit i fucked around and gutted my team, so money aint that big of a deal.

 

[AgentCreed]

Does the countdown to match start when he signs or when the Knicks receive it?

when received.

 

[BLACKLOOP]

Rockets playing Dirty Pool... knicks still haven't received Lin OS...

The rockets gonna wait till Monday to fax them offer sheet..dirty motherfuckers


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[AgentCreed]

The rockets gonna wait till Monday to fax them offer sheet..dirty motherfuckers


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yup, thats my guess... knicks have til noon to match...rockets fax it in ay 11:59... rockets gonna make an enemy of Dolan... he will save money just to fuck over the rockets whenever he can lolol...

 

[conspiracy Bro]

Knicks maybe trying to get both Felton and Lin... Felton can play SG...

Suddenly they'd be deep as fuck at the guard, pg spot... but that is so weird...gadz deal to port for felton?

ohhh.. if knicks match Lin that leave Felton to rockets, if knicks get felton then match Lin... Tony Douglass is the rockets starting PG... that's hilarious if true.

Yeah besides fucking them over Felton might be the best guard available and adds depth to a PG in case Kidd was to wear down.

 

[LSN]

what you mean money wise. If Dwight signs with the Nets for MMLE or the MLE that would be the stupidest move in NBA history.

He needs to go to LA or give Houston a chance. Hell try Dallas. If that happens Stern would be shitting bricks.

Then how many people will claim the Nets are paying him under the table??? Too much unwanted attention.

Man the only one worried about that is you...you yourself posted Dwight stands to gain $400 million from Adidas if he signs w/ BK...is this true? Cuz if it is wouldn't it make sense for him to see the bigger picture and realize that the Adidas contract is worth more than what a team could pay him if he doesn't come to BK? What's the max contract he can get if he signs/trades to another team...? In the long run can it compare to that $400 million contract you mentioned? I understand you don't want Dwight on the team...but stop w/ the hypothetical under the table nonsense when you posted something that makes far more sense

 

[killa kadafi191]

Tim Bontemps ‏@TimBontemps
Karnes on Watson choosing the Nets: "In the end, Deron had called C.J., Avery had called him … he felt like there was a big hole to fill. "He’s used to a big market, he’s used to playing for a contender, he’s used to pressure and really looks forward to contributing."

Tim Bontemps ‏@TimBontemps
Players taking less money to play for the Nets is a clear indication that the organization has a new image around the league.

Times are changing

Deron Williams and Billy King will meet with Matt Barnes tomorrow

on lin

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

Have read the Tweets on the Knicks, Lin, Felton. What I know is as of 10 p.m, NY has NOT informed Lin they’re not matching, per source.

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt

But Rockets’ chances of getting Lin certainly look better than they did yesterday. They think there’s a chance Knicks won’t match

 

[killa kadafi191]

Man the only one worried about that is you...you yourself posted Dwight stands to gain $400 million from Adidas if he signs w/ BK...is this true? Cuz if it is wouldn't it make sense for him to see the bigger picture and realize that the Adidas contract is worth more than what a team could pay him if he doesn't come to BK? What's the max contract he can get if he signs/trades to another team...? In the long run can it compare to that $400 million contract you mentioned? I understand you don't want Dwight on the team...but stop w/ the hypothetical under the table nonsense when you posted something that makes far more sense

Maybe I'm a little bitter. I feel Dwight if he wanted to be here he would have opt out and walk. We could have kept our pick, brook and add Dwight to Lopez. Now he wants to join?? Before he had three teams. LA Dallas and the Nets. Now it's Nets or nothing?? Where was this talk in March??

He had his chance. I'm all for having the better team but Dwight fuck his chances up. I'm all about support players who are here and want to be here. No matter what Dwight opt in on the night he was going to be traded to us. He fucked us.

 

[LSN]

yes, it'd cause chaotic hilariousness... ESPN would literally explode.... Stern would block it tho... ain't no way a superstar in his prime will leave what...80-90mil on the table for 3mil a season? that'd be hilarious as fuck...imagine the movement that starts? It'd make the CBA worthless.

Why wouldn't he if he really stands to make $400 mill from Adidas when he signs to BK if there's truth to that...??? I heard about the Adidas offer after Rose got $250 mill but I always thought it was a rumor tho

 

[Mask]

Man the only one worried about that is you...you yourself posted Dwight stands to gain $400 million from Adidas if he signs w/ BK...is this true? Cuz if it is wouldn't it make sense for him to see the bigger picture and realize that the Adidas contract is worth more than what a team could pay him if he doesn't come to BK? What's the max contract he can get if he signs/trades to another team...? In the long run can it compare to that $400 million contract you mentioned? I understand you don't want Dwight on the team...but stop w/ the hypothetical under the table nonsense when you posted something that makes far more sense

If tho I agree that Addias money is greater than any NBA contract, but Saying Dwight and MLE don't sound right. Folks don't fuck with Dwight now, shit think about then.

I'm with Killa, I liked the team with Chris and Brook.

 

[AgentCreed]

Why wouldn't he if he really stands to make $400 mill from Adidas when he signs to BK if there's truth to that...??? I heard about the Adidas offer after Rose got $250 mill but I always thought it was a rumor tho

not the point... dwight is a 98-100mil nba contract player... if he passes on that for 12-18mil total just so he can pick his location, the ripple effect in the league would be amazing... he'd be making the same as Kwame Brown...

 

[c_commander]

Maybe I'm a little bitter. I feel Dwight if he wanted to be here he would have opt out and walk. We could have kept our pick, brook and add Dwight to Lopez. Now he wants to join?? Before he had three teams. LA Dallas and the Nets. Now it's Nets or nothing?? Where was this talk in March??

He had his chance. I'm all for having the better team but Dwight fuck his chances up. I'm all about support players who are here and want to be here. No matter what Dwight opt in on the night he was going to be traded to us. He fucked us.

He fucked the Nets and himself by being a noncommittal bitch and taking the option year. He's a dumb muthafucka and about the only thing that could save face for him is going to Atlanta and leading them to something meaningful cause even if he comes to the Nets it would be at best a half a season later than he should have.

 

[LSN]

Ya that's true...the flip flopping is annoying but fuck it...I think the scenario worked out for the best...we get to see the current team operate and then we can decide if we need to add an extra piece like Dwight to the puzzle...this offseason is fuckin crazy

Maybe I'm a little bitter. I feel Dwight if he wanted to be here he would have opt out and walk. We could have kept our pick, brook and add Dwight to Lopez. Now he wants to join?? Before he had three teams. LA Dallas and the Nets. Now it's Nets or nothing?? Where was this talk in March??

He had his chance. I'm all for having the better team but Dwight fuck his chances up. I'm all about support players who are here and want to be here. No matter what Dwight opt in on the night he was going to be traded to us. He fucked us.

 

[LSN]

not the point... dwight is a 98-100mil nba contract player... if he passes on that for 12-18mil total just so he can pick his location, the ripple effect in the league would be amazing... he'd be making the same as Kwame Brown...

Ya you right on that note

 

[AgentCreed]

amie O'Grady ‏@LoHudKnicks
If Grunwald's MIA-act today was to nab Felton, last decent PG on market, who HOU'd need, sans Lin, then #Knicks GM is straight-up ruthless.

LOL..if true

 

[killa kadafi191]

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN
The Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Dan Gadzuric, sources tell the Daily News

it's official

Knicks are not matching Lin

 

[conspiracy Bro]

it's official

Knicks are not matching Lin

Did they say they weren't matching? Or are you assuming?