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A thread based on speculative discussion? Sure there was...now what? Chocolate chip or oatmeal?
With what money? Mayo is going to demand at least $5 million a year
This is true.. Hit that D League up...lol
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Gerald Green has agreed to a contract with the Pacers, according to a report from Peter Vecsey.
Indiana also had interest in O.J. Mayo and Courtney Lee.
Mike Wells reports that Green will sign a three-year, $10 million contract.
J.J. Hickson has agreed to a one-year contract to remain with the Blazers.
Hickson was claimed by Portland after he was placed on waivers by the Kings.
Indiana also had interest in O.J. Mayo and Courtney Lee.
Mike Wells reports that Green will sign a three-year, $10 million contract.
J.J. Hickson has agreed to a one-year contract to remain with the Blazers.
Hickson was claimed by Portland after he was placed on waivers by the Kings.
Knicks continue to add depth
Also, Mike Woodson says Lin will be matched and he is the starter.
Kidd and Camby get introduced tomorrow
Knicks may match the Fields offer sheet, dolan really doesn't care about the lux tax in the 3rd year...knicks r win now.
Lastly shump is ahead of schedule in his rehab and may be back b4 January...
The depth on this team will be crazy if they bring fields back...the whole second unit could start once shump returns...knicks will be stacked at every position...insane
Also, Mike Woodson says Lin will be matched and he is the starter.
Kidd and Camby get introduced tomorrow
Knicks may match the Fields offer sheet, dolan really doesn't care about the lux tax in the 3rd year...knicks r win now.
Lastly shump is ahead of schedule in his rehab and may be back b4 January...
The depth on this team will be crazy if they bring fields back...the whole second unit could start once shump returns...knicks will be stacked at every position...insane
Rumor is that if Hornets match the Sun's offer for Gordon, Phoenix plans to go hard after OJ Mayo.
Fuck Dwight he signed off the right to choose his team and now he looking like a complete bitch and idiot
Guess they just wanted to dump those guys off so other people on the roster can get soem PT
Collison looked real good filling in for CP3 that one year hopefully he can get back to that if not oh well he is in the final year of his contract and Jones adds good depth off the bench
Mahinmi is a good backup center and 4 million a year is about the going price for one I don't really think they overpaid
nah we didn't finance our future on his injury prone ass so im good
plus we got rid of Brendan Hoewood in the process
here you go again post a link because as of today Mizra contract is legal. Bobby Marks is a CBA genius No one understands the CBA better than Bobby Marks. remember when the new cba was approved bobby read through it.
Which is why the nets team that was put together was focus on adding dwight in the summer time.
Nets were able to add the leading scorer from Europe for only 3 million.
Don't hate the player hate the game
Saying the Nets get caught??
here you go again. do your research man. Bobby Marks did it legal and that is the reason why he is the best.Remember your Knicks tried to hired 4 years ago??
Rockets may amnesty Scola 
Hold your horses on that bid for Elton Brand Mavs!!!
Hold your horses on that bid for Elton Brand Mavs!!!
Rockets may amnesty Scola
Hold your horses on that bid for Elton Brand Mavs!!!
Scola would be a good look on any team
. I'd take him over Carlos Snoozer any day on my Bulls.
Will Haywood clear waivers?
If so look for him to sign with the Heat
If so look for him to sign with the Heat
I wonder if he will go to the Spurs considering his connection to Manu and that was the team which drafted him.Rockets may amnesty Scola
Hold your horses on that bid for Elton Brand Mavs!!!
I don't think they need him.
You typically don't want your rotation being more than 8...or 9 at the most.
Off the bench, you'd think Ray, Battier, UD, and Lewis will get significant minutes...I don't think adding another guy will add anything at this point unless they are a pure center (and they probably will only be a project like Curry)
Nah, both are solid average starters. Nothing more, nothing less. That is still more than Mahinmi ever will be. That trade just goes to show that if you are 7 ft tall and can walk and chew gum at the same time, you are a solid bet to make at least $4-5 million a year.
Who are the free agency losers so far?
so then anything less than a 50 win season and a 2nd round playoff birth is underacheiving.
Ramon Sessions to sign with the Bobcats.
D.J. Augustin’s tenure with the Charlotte Bobcats has officially come to an end. In four years Augustin’s career was full of up’s and down’s that made it very difficult to put a true value on what the PG offers in this league.
D.J. Augustin’s tenure with the Charlotte Bobcats has officially come to an end. In four years Augustin’s career was full of up’s and down’s that made it very difficult to put a true value on what the PG offers in this league.
Greg Oden's agent told FoxSports Florida he wants to play again. Should the Heat be interested? On the one hand, he can't do any less than Eddy Curry this past season. On the other hand, how many unplayable centers can one team have? Oden hasn't played in nearly three years (Dec of '09). So this is the longest of long shots. But considering the minimal cost involved ...
I am not interested in players that wont get any burn. That is a waste of time.
O.J. Mayo, Courtney Lee still apparently being pursued by Boston Celtics
If the Celtics can somehow (and improbably) snag either Mayo or Lee, they might go from “well, they’re interesting” to “they might have an actual chance to give the Miami Heat another scare.”
Full disclosure: I’d pick Lee over Mayo. Whereas Mayo has fallen off considerably since assuming a bench role two years ago, Lee has shown an ability to thrive no matter what role he plays
If the Celtics can somehow (and improbably) snag either Mayo or Lee, they might go from “well, they’re interesting” to “they might have an actual chance to give the Miami Heat another scare.”
Full disclosure: I’d pick Lee over Mayo. Whereas Mayo has fallen off considerably since assuming a bench role two years ago, Lee has shown an ability to thrive no matter what role he plays
When Ray Allen’s guard was down, Heat President Pat Riley swooped in and made steal from Celtics
By Ethan J. Skolnick
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
MIAMI — In the end, it doesn’t matter why Ray Allen’s here, certainly not as much as where he will be – behind the line, spotting up, waiting to rise up and knock down shots for the Heat rather than for someone else. It doesn’t matter if his decision was more a consequence of the Celtics driving him away or Pat Riley making the Heat feel like home. All that ultimately matters for Miami is whether Allen can make good on Riley’s guarantee that, so deep into his 30s, he can still connect from deep at a 45 percent clip.
“There are only a handful of players in this league that absolutely strike fear into their opponent, and Ray is one of them,” said Erik Spoelstra, Allen’s new coach. “In clutch moments in particular.”
So, yes, this was a celebratory moment for the Heat, the addition of a useful piece to a championship core.
Still, it was nearly impossible to observe Wednesday’s post-signing proceedings, and not find the circumstances of Allen’s New England exit more compelling than anything related to his South Florida entrance. The last time Allen had addressed the media inside AmericanAirlines Arena, it came following a crying spell in the Celtics locker room, where the end of an unexpected playoff run had left him overcome with “a sense of letdown.” He said then that he wasn’t sure whether he would wear that jersey – that Boston No. 20 – again, not as he entered the uncertainty of a free agent summer.
Now he was back, in the same building but different interview room, one in which he would be presented with a new jersey bearing the old number he requested – No. 34, the number he wore for Hillcrest High in South Carolina, the University of Connecticut, the Milwaukee Bucks and the Seattle SuperSonics before Paul Pierce’s presence forced a switch in Boston.
He was back, with much his family sitting in the second row, a family that includes his wife, Shannon, and their five children – including Walker, whose juvenile diabetes was a factor they considered in any relocation. He was back in Miami, and yet it was clear how close he came to staying back in Boston, if the Celtics had done things differently. Allen didn’t run from those insinuations, but simply deftly danced and skillfully deflected, often in the course of clearing his throat.
Did the friction with backcourt mate Rajon Rondo contribute to his departure? Allen replied that “umm, I can’t say that it factored into my decision” and that all teammates have occasional differences. Yet it spoke volumes when he admitted “I haven’t spoken with him at all,” even while texting regularly with Pierce and Kevin Garnett.
Did Allen feel slighted by Avery Bradley taking his starting spot? Some might argue Allen answered that question when posed another one, about whether he was comfortable with a reserve role in Miami, one behind Dwyane Wade. “You mean, I’m not starting?” Allen quipped. “They should have told me that last week.”
Still, Allen’s later acknowledgement that he wondered how he would contribute in Boston “going forward offensively” revealed how he felt affected by the Celtics’ decision to crowd the backcourt with Jason Terry.
Then there was the other factor, money, not necessarily in terms of what it buys but what it means.
Respect. Allen took less per season in Miami (starting at $3.09 million, with two guaranteed seasons and a player option for a third) than Boston was willing to offer. Still, Allen was clearly expecting the Celtics to offer more than they did from the start, and was still hoping they would at the end. He even related a conversation with Garnett in which the fellow veteran predicted that Celtics executive Danny Ainge would come up with something extra and Allen replied, “We’ll see.”
Following the press conference, in a separate session with a Boston-based gaggle of reporters, Allen was more explicit about not sensing “the same excitement” coming from the Celtics as the Heat, especially when they chose not to offer a contract of the same length as the three seasons they gave Garnett. He said there was “some truth” to a reporter’s assessment that he’d been overlooked as “the good soldier,” and blamed himself for acquiescing so much.
So, clearly, Allen felt a void, and was open to change.
And so Riley, the bird of prey, swooped in, squawking stories and stealing another heart. It’s what he’s done for Miami, when Alonzo Mourning was unhappy in Charlotte, or Tim Hardaway in Golden State, or Shaquille O’Neal in Laker-land. He and Allen had only shared “small conversations in passing,” but last Thursday, discussed basketball philosophy for several hours, at least when Allen wasn’t stepping out to do the same with Spoelstra. Riley gave him books, texted quotes.
“Just a very disarming guy,” Allen said.
Especially to those with their guards already down.
By Ethan J. Skolnick
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
MIAMI — In the end, it doesn’t matter why Ray Allen’s here, certainly not as much as where he will be – behind the line, spotting up, waiting to rise up and knock down shots for the Heat rather than for someone else. It doesn’t matter if his decision was more a consequence of the Celtics driving him away or Pat Riley making the Heat feel like home. All that ultimately matters for Miami is whether Allen can make good on Riley’s guarantee that, so deep into his 30s, he can still connect from deep at a 45 percent clip.
“There are only a handful of players in this league that absolutely strike fear into their opponent, and Ray is one of them,” said Erik Spoelstra, Allen’s new coach. “In clutch moments in particular.”
So, yes, this was a celebratory moment for the Heat, the addition of a useful piece to a championship core.
Still, it was nearly impossible to observe Wednesday’s post-signing proceedings, and not find the circumstances of Allen’s New England exit more compelling than anything related to his South Florida entrance. The last time Allen had addressed the media inside AmericanAirlines Arena, it came following a crying spell in the Celtics locker room, where the end of an unexpected playoff run had left him overcome with “a sense of letdown.” He said then that he wasn’t sure whether he would wear that jersey – that Boston No. 20 – again, not as he entered the uncertainty of a free agent summer.
Now he was back, in the same building but different interview room, one in which he would be presented with a new jersey bearing the old number he requested – No. 34, the number he wore for Hillcrest High in South Carolina, the University of Connecticut, the Milwaukee Bucks and the Seattle SuperSonics before Paul Pierce’s presence forced a switch in Boston.
He was back, with much his family sitting in the second row, a family that includes his wife, Shannon, and their five children – including Walker, whose juvenile diabetes was a factor they considered in any relocation. He was back in Miami, and yet it was clear how close he came to staying back in Boston, if the Celtics had done things differently. Allen didn’t run from those insinuations, but simply deftly danced and skillfully deflected, often in the course of clearing his throat.
Did the friction with backcourt mate Rajon Rondo contribute to his departure? Allen replied that “umm, I can’t say that it factored into my decision” and that all teammates have occasional differences. Yet it spoke volumes when he admitted “I haven’t spoken with him at all,” even while texting regularly with Pierce and Kevin Garnett.
Did Allen feel slighted by Avery Bradley taking his starting spot? Some might argue Allen answered that question when posed another one, about whether he was comfortable with a reserve role in Miami, one behind Dwyane Wade. “You mean, I’m not starting?” Allen quipped. “They should have told me that last week.”
Still, Allen’s later acknowledgement that he wondered how he would contribute in Boston “going forward offensively” revealed how he felt affected by the Celtics’ decision to crowd the backcourt with Jason Terry.
Then there was the other factor, money, not necessarily in terms of what it buys but what it means.
Respect. Allen took less per season in Miami (starting at $3.09 million, with two guaranteed seasons and a player option for a third) than Boston was willing to offer. Still, Allen was clearly expecting the Celtics to offer more than they did from the start, and was still hoping they would at the end. He even related a conversation with Garnett in which the fellow veteran predicted that Celtics executive Danny Ainge would come up with something extra and Allen replied, “We’ll see.”
Following the press conference, in a separate session with a Boston-based gaggle of reporters, Allen was more explicit about not sensing “the same excitement” coming from the Celtics as the Heat, especially when they chose not to offer a contract of the same length as the three seasons they gave Garnett. He said there was “some truth” to a reporter’s assessment that he’d been overlooked as “the good soldier,” and blamed himself for acquiescing so much.
So, clearly, Allen felt a void, and was open to change.
And so Riley, the bird of prey, swooped in, squawking stories and stealing another heart. It’s what he’s done for Miami, when Alonzo Mourning was unhappy in Charlotte, or Tim Hardaway in Golden State, or Shaquille O’Neal in Laker-land. He and Allen had only shared “small conversations in passing,” but last Thursday, discussed basketball philosophy for several hours, at least when Allen wasn’t stepping out to do the same with Spoelstra. Riley gave him books, texted quotes.
“Just a very disarming guy,” Allen said.
Especially to those with their guards already down.
When Ray Allen’s guard was down, Heat President Pat Riley swooped in and made steal from Celtics
By Ethan J. Skolnick
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
MIAMI — In the end, it doesn’t matter why Ray Allen’s here, certainly not as much as where he will be – behind the line, spotting up, waiting to rise up and knock down shots for the Heat rather than for someone else. It doesn’t matter if his decision was more a consequence of the Celtics driving him away or Pat Riley making the Heat feel like home. All that ultimately matters for Miami is whether Allen can make good on Riley’s guarantee that, so deep into his 30s, he can still connect from deep at a 45 percent clip.
“There are only a handful of players in this league that absolutely strike fear into their opponent, and Ray is one of them,” said Erik Spoelstra, Allen’s new coach. “In clutch moments in particular.”
So, yes, this was a celebratory moment for the Heat, the addition of a useful piece to a championship core.
Still, it was nearly impossible to observe Wednesday’s post-signing proceedings, and not find the circumstances of Allen’s New England exit more compelling than anything related to his South Florida entrance. The last time Allen had addressed the media inside AmericanAirlines Arena, it came following a crying spell in the Celtics locker room, where the end of an unexpected playoff run had left him overcome with “a sense of letdown.” He said then that he wasn’t sure whether he would wear that jersey – that Boston No. 20 – again, not as he entered the uncertainty of a free agent summer.
Now he was back, in the same building but different interview room, one in which he would be presented with a new jersey bearing the old number he requested – No. 34, the number he wore for Hillcrest High in South Carolina, the University of Connecticut, the Milwaukee Bucks and the Seattle SuperSonics before Paul Pierce’s presence forced a switch in Boston.
He was back, with much his family sitting in the second row, a family that includes his wife, Shannon, and their five children – including Walker, whose juvenile diabetes was a factor they considered in any relocation. He was back in Miami, and yet it was clear how close he came to staying back in Boston, if the Celtics had done things differently. Allen didn’t run from those insinuations, but simply deftly danced and skillfully deflected, often in the course of clearing his throat.
Did the friction with backcourt mate Rajon Rondo contribute to his departure? Allen replied that “umm, I can’t say that it factored into my decision” and that all teammates have occasional differences. Yet it spoke volumes when he admitted “I haven’t spoken with him at all,” even while texting regularly with Pierce and Kevin Garnett.
Did Allen feel slighted by Avery Bradley taking his starting spot? Some might argue Allen answered that question when posed another one, about whether he was comfortable with a reserve role in Miami, one behind Dwyane Wade. “You mean, I’m not starting?” Allen quipped. “They should have told me that last week.”
Still, Allen’s later acknowledgement that he wondered how he would contribute in Boston “going forward offensively” revealed how he felt affected by the Celtics’ decision to crowd the backcourt with Jason Terry.
Then there was the other factor, money, not necessarily in terms of what it buys but what it means.
Respect. Allen took less per season in Miami (starting at $3.09 million, with two guaranteed seasons and a player option for a third) than Boston was willing to offer. Still, Allen was clearly expecting the Celtics to offer more than they did from the start, and was still hoping they would at the end. He even related a conversation with Garnett in which the fellow veteran predicted that Celtics executive Danny Ainge would come up with something extra and Allen replied, “We’ll see.”
Following the press conference, in a separate session with a Boston-based gaggle of reporters, Allen was more explicit about not sensing “the same excitement” coming from the Celtics as the Heat, especially when they chose not to offer a contract of the same length as the three seasons they gave Garnett. He said there was “some truth” to a reporter’s assessment that he’d been overlooked as “the good soldier,” and blamed himself for acquiescing so much.
So, clearly, Allen felt a void, and was open to change.
And so Riley, the bird of prey, swooped in, squawking stories and stealing another heart. It’s what he’s done for Miami, when Alonzo Mourning was unhappy in Charlotte, or Tim Hardaway in Golden State, or Shaquille O’Neal in Laker-land. He and Allen had only shared “small conversations in passing,” but last Thursday, discussed basketball philosophy for several hours, at least when Allen wasn’t stepping out to do the same with Spoelstra. Riley gave him books, texted quotes.
“Just a very disarming guy,” Allen said.
Especially to those with their guards already down.
Beeii gon cry in the car
Wolves waive Darko Milicic
By Ric Bucher | ESPN The Magazine
The Minnesota Timberwolves used their amnesty designation to waive center Darko Milicic on Thursday and submitted an offer sheet to Portland Trail Blazers restricted free agent Nicolas Batum.
Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor said the team expected Batum to sign the offer Thursday. Taylor also said the Wolves would continue to talk about a sign-and-trade option for acquiring the restricted free agent.
Milicic has two years and $10 million remaining on his contract, but only $7 million is guaranteed. Once finalized, Milicic will go through a modified amnesty process. Teams with cap space will be able to make blind bids to pick up a portion of his remaining salary. If no team makes a bid, Milicic will become an unrestricted free agent.
The Timberwolves were in talks to trade for Batum. A league source said three teams were going to be involved. Portland would have received shooting guard Kyle Korver from Chicago and two future first-round draft picks from Minnesota. The Bulls would have acquired a second-round pick from the Timberwolves, the source said. But the teams were not able to agree to a trade.
Terms of Batum's offer sheet were not available, but his agent, Bouna Ndiaye, told The Associated Press last week he and the Wolves agreed to terms on a four-year, $45 million deal with bonuses that could push the value past $50 million.
Blazers general manager Neil Olshey said Wednesday the team would match any offers for Batum.
Ndiaye told the AP that Batum wanted to play for the Wolves and they hoped the Blazers either would not match the offer or execute a sign-and-trade.
By Ric Bucher | ESPN The Magazine
The Minnesota Timberwolves used their amnesty designation to waive center Darko Milicic on Thursday and submitted an offer sheet to Portland Trail Blazers restricted free agent Nicolas Batum.
Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor said the team expected Batum to sign the offer Thursday. Taylor also said the Wolves would continue to talk about a sign-and-trade option for acquiring the restricted free agent.
Milicic has two years and $10 million remaining on his contract, but only $7 million is guaranteed. Once finalized, Milicic will go through a modified amnesty process. Teams with cap space will be able to make blind bids to pick up a portion of his remaining salary. If no team makes a bid, Milicic will become an unrestricted free agent.
The Timberwolves were in talks to trade for Batum. A league source said three teams were going to be involved. Portland would have received shooting guard Kyle Korver from Chicago and two future first-round draft picks from Minnesota. The Bulls would have acquired a second-round pick from the Timberwolves, the source said. But the teams were not able to agree to a trade.
Terms of Batum's offer sheet were not available, but his agent, Bouna Ndiaye, told The Associated Press last week he and the Wolves agreed to terms on a four-year, $45 million deal with bonuses that could push the value past $50 million.
Blazers general manager Neil Olshey said Wednesday the team would match any offers for Batum.
Ndiaye told the AP that Batum wanted to play for the Wolves and they hoped the Blazers either would not match the offer or execute a sign-and-trade.
Naw, they got Terry who is a very good 3 pt shooter as well and a better defender imo. And if they get Courtney Lee, they upgraded.
naw
naw
ya
Ethan J. Skolnick @EthanJSkolnick
Spoelstra: "Hopefully we can play faster. Hopefully there can be less sets that we're running."
maybe time will tell,
dude makes this shit(basketball season) fun......
I'm good with it. DC's contract is expiring, he's a good dude, fan fav, wants to start, and he'll have a chance to showcase his skills down in Dallas. Without looking over his shoulder much. He should thrive in a down there.
Meanwhile, DJ will give us a different look. And hopefully, some niftier passing to Green (lobs) and co., in the second unit. Pacers transition and passing was average at best last season. Augustin should also feel renewed and motivated to showcase on a bigger stage.
Not great but a good pickup/ filler.
Ramon Sessions wanted a multiyear contract so bad he opted out of 4.5 million playing for the Lakers, couldnt get a multiyear deal, and had to resort to signing a two year deal with the Bobcats
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