Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches & more

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I hope it pans out,but i'm concerned about the traffic.That stretch of 880 is always crowded and there aren't many alternative routes that can be taken. The area I think will eventually blow is over by the old Army Base and that area past Jack London Square.Close to the Port so air quality won't be the best but that area has water views and close to SF.
 
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Some of what you are saying is true but IMO its a part of a victim mentality that plagues us. You are right, things get done when white people get involved.Some of it is because they are white,but a large part of it is that they take efficient action. I see notices around the neighborhoods for community trash pickups,its always white folks.PTA meetings, full of white folks.Community meetings, full of white folks.That neighborhood website cited in the article, what is keeping black folks from logging onto it? I love my people, be we just haven't been PROactive. Instead, we are REactive and complain when things don't go our way. Right now in East Oakland, what trash pickups do you see organized? How many people are calling the cops on the hoes on E14? How many people are organizing Neighborhood watch meetings? How much participation in the PTA?

It's not victim, it's intentional.

I'm not saying the people in those communities are helpless I am saying that the people in charge of picking and choosing which communities receive funding, get grants for development and businesses and the police that enforce those areas work long and hard to make sure they stay that way.



The community would be 100x's better if they just left us the fuck alone.

Like to your point about the police, why would someone call the police on someone else when the police don't distinguish YOU from THEM?

If I called the cops on you because you were selling drugs or just raped or murdered someone, they're just as likely to shoot, arrest or kill ME on sight as they are you.

That has an affect whether we want to admit it or not. Especially since the people in those communities in charge of policing us intentionally don't look like us and don't live in those neighborhoods. You see what I'm saying?

Black people don't feel that way towards firefighters or EMT's do they? No. Because you guys come and do your jobs. You don't refuse to perform services on black folks. You don't refuse to put out a fire because it's in an undesirable neighborhood. But the police force DOES pick and choose who to SERVE and who to PROTECT.

Also, this is a long time coming. West Oakland paid for what it did with the panthers. How do you think all those black folks owned those old Victorian homes in the first place lol? It wasn't luck. It was because they were a community that was together that was intentionally torn apart.

It's deeper than "Get it together"

we need to offer more resistance TRUE but let's not play the game that an actual game wasn't being played.

They dried up that area and pumped drugs into that area and left it for dead because the white people wanted to live in the burbs.

Now that they want to live in the city they're snatching houses from people using predatory mortgage's (thanks wells fargo for stealing all these black houses and then giving the money you made to latin folks to increase their wealth) and other means swindling people who don't know any better..

Just saying.
 
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Props....Aye, if you have any questions about landlording, feel free to hit me up. My building is in that area and i've been coming up and shit has been really easy. NEVER sell those homes.Its like selling a Goose that lays a Golden egg that month.With the price of gold raising.

Man we discussed this on here before lol you had just bought your place and we discussed contractors and stuff on here.

I saw all that shit coming.
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

Some of what you are saying is true but IMO its a part of a victim mentality that plagues us. You are right, things get done when white people get involved.Some of it is because they are white,but a large part of it is that they take efficient action. I see notices around the neighborhoods for community trash pickups,its always white folks.PTA meetings, full of white folks.Community meetings, full of white folks.That neighborhood website cited in the article, what is keeping black folks from logging onto it? I love my people, be we just haven't been PROactive. Instead, we are REactive and complain when things don't go our way. Right now in East Oakland, what trash pickups do you see organized? How many people are calling the cops on the hoes on E14? How many people are organizing Neighborhood watch meetings? How much participation in the PTA?

It's funny your area is so far away, but what you describe is the situation up here and cacs aren't even trying to move to the city like that.

I just see apathy, but once cacs start doing shit, people get pissed off. I've also lived long enough to see the reverse. I've seen first hand how communities turn to shit. Apathy.

Stores and businesses just don't move because black people show up. Shit, black people spend money just like cacs. White flight happens with residents while businesses stay behind because people still spend money. Businesses end up leaving because of community apathy and the sheer amount of bullshit that follows that forces businesses out. Seen suburbs turn to hood in 25 years. :smh:

Cacs driving 30 minutes to work in good weather up here and are fine with it. :smh: Think about that shit with our winters up here.

Until community attitude change, this game of musical chairs will keep going on and on. Nice area to hood....hood to nice area...
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

You think the rent and real estate is expensive in West Oakland now? Wait till the uber finishes construction on their new headquarters in downtown oakland in 2017. White folks love oakland and don't mind living in the hood with the niggas cuz they know 5 years from now most of them cats will have moved to Tracy, Stockton , Antioch, Pittsburg , ect. where the rent is way way cheaper.
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

You think the rent and real estate is expensive in West Oakland now? Wait till the uber finishes construction on their new headquarters in downtown oakland in 2017. White folks love oakland and don't mind living in the hood with the niggas cuz they know 5 years from now most of them cats will have moved to Tracy, Stockton , Antioch, Pittsburg , ect. where the rent is way way cheaper.

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Demographic profile 2010 2000 1990 1970 1940

White 48.5% 49.7% 53.6% 71.4% 95.0%

Asian 33.3% 30.8% 29.1% 13.3% 4.2%

Black or African American 6.1% 7.8% 10.9% 13.4% 0.8%

American Indian and Alaska Native 0.5% 0.4% 0.5% 0.4% –

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.4% 0.5% 0.5% – –

Some other race 6.6% 6.5% 5.9% 1.5% -

Two or more races 4.7% 4.0% - - -

Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 15.1% 14.1% 13.9% 11.6%
2.5%

Non-Hispanic White 41.9% 43.6% 46.6% 60.4% 92.5%

Source: US Census

'black', the only decline!

lets see what happens in oakland in the next 20 years.
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

Crackas coming back to the hood is a common theme seems like. Even the Town aint safe. Wild shit.
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

It all started on First Fridays. That increased the cac influx 10 fold. Hipster central. Oakland reminds me so much of Brooklyn it's crazy. Same shit happening.

I now see cacs riding their fixed gear bikes deep down west grand in west oakland like nothing. Im waiting for one to be murked to see how they respond.

Yeah, I was shocked how much the bay reminded me of the east coast in some ways.
 
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sf.


Demographic profile 2010 2000 1990 1970 1940

White 48.5% 49.7% 53.6% 71.4% 95.0%

Asian 33.3% 30.8% 29.1% 13.3% 4.2%

Black or African American 6.1% 7.8% 10.9% 13.4% 0.8%

American Indian and Alaska Native 0.5% 0.4% 0.5% 0.4% –

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 0.4% 0.5% 0.5% – –

Some other race 6.6% 6.5% 5.9% 1.5% -

Two or more races 4.7% 4.0% - - -

Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 15.1% 14.1% 13.9% 11.6%
2.5%

Non-Hispanic White 41.9% 43.6% 46.6% 60.4% 92.5%

Source: US Census

'black', the only decline!

lets see what happens in oakland in the next 20 years.
I've only driven through there on my way to Travis Air Force Base. So I don't much about the place. But for some reason I always thought Oakland had a higher black population than that.
 
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Wish I could afford to live in Oakland.
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

I bought a multiunit building in West Oakland during the downturn and it is easily the best financial decision i've made.It was on one of the worst streets in West Oakland as well.In a few short years it has gotten much safer. I have to be honest,gentrifiers are making West Oakland so much better.I'm pro-black but we have to be honest with ourselves. For years West Oakland has been dilapidated,trash everywhere,and cats selling dope on every corner. Many of the churches ARE loud.Loud to the point where you can hear the people in them a block away.These Gentrifiers are organizing community pickups,establishing viable businesses,calling the cops on dealers etc etc which is making West Oakland far better. Prices are high right now but IMO West Oakland is on the upswing and the best place to invest in Oakland right now.

I'm sorry, but I STRONGLY disagree with you here.

My last Oakland spot was on Apgar near San Pablo, around the corner from the Pack n' Save. I can tell you first hand that these white gentrifiers are calling the cops on ANYBODY black that lives in a house they're trying to take over. The fact that some of them are drug dealers is just a happy accident.

When I went through my rent strike my landlord called the police on my roommate, a black man, and falsely accused him of brandishing a knife. As soon as the man was cuffed and in the squad car my white neighbor came running out of his house trying to introduce himself to the cops and talk shit about my downstairs neighbors being dope dealers.

Speaking of dope, lets keep it 100. In the last 7 years Oakland has developed a serious meth problem. There is no shortage of corner dealers and dope house pushing this poison either. Those gentrifiers brought their hillbilly habits along with them.

You want to talk about trash and dilapidated buildings. Let me ask you, why wasn't the city trying to deal with these problems when only black people wanted to live there?
 
Re: Oakland's Culture Clash... cacs filing noise complaints against Black churches &

Crackas coming back to the hood is a common theme seems like. Even the Town aint safe. Wild shit.

The town can't stay the same forever. Its a good look. :cool: y'all sound like scary republicans electing a brotha for the highest office in the land.
 
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THE QUESTION IS.... WIL BLACK AMERICA TAKE BACK TO FARMING AND BEING SELF SUFFICIENT?

ALL THIS KNOWLEDGE GONE TO WASTE WITHININ 2 GENERATIONS.:smh::smh:
 
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