NY: Subway study sends harmless gas through subway stations

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Subway study sends harmless gas through subway stations to test possible impact of chemical attack



U.S. authorities on Monday sent a harmless gas wafting through the New York subway to study how to deal with a toxic accident or attack in a test that both unsettled and reassured riders on the underground system.

A mix of odorless, inert gases and tracer materials were released in three of the busiest subway stations in the city: Grand Central Terminal, Times Square and Penn Station, U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials said.

Men and women in orange vests let off the gas inside areas cordoned off with yellow "caution" tape as commuters walked by and police stood guard.

With equipment set up at another 55 subway stations around Manhattan, researchers will take air samples every four hours to see how the gas spreads. They will repeat the process throughout the work week, the department said in a statement.

The test is part of a five-year program that began in 2012 to develop methods to protect urban transit systems in the event of an attack or accidental contamination. Previous tests were conducted in New York, Washington, D.C. and Boston.

"These tests are designed to gather data about how airborne material will travel through subway systems and the trains and how quickly they will move," said John Verrico, a spokesman for the department's Science and Technology Directorate, which sponsored the test along with the Office of Health Affairs.

New York subway riders had mixed feelings about the test, which may have stirred painful memories of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center in lower Manhattan.

Amy Aziz, an artist from New Jersey, first learned of the study from her boyfriend.

"I've heard that they've done it in the past and it sounds like it should be very beneficial," she said.

Other riders said the test made them uneasy because it reminded them of the vulnerability of the country's largest subway system, with its complex stations and countless ventilation paths.

"It's something that we know is a possibility but we don't want to think about it because we don't want it to become a reality," said Doris Altman, a New York City subway commuter. "But it's really frightening."
 
Actually surprised NYC subways have never really been successfully targeted.

I think its just too unruly...

24/7/365 constantly in motion cameras cell phones movies,videos, tv shows being done repairs staff changes re-routes constant lateness and emergency stoppages...
 
I think its just too unruly...

24/7/365 constantly in motion cameras cell phones movies,videos, tv shows being done repairs staff changes re-routes constant lateness and emergency stoppages...
Man, I remember living in NYC in the late 90s/early 2000s, always felt it could be mad easy to plant somethin in the subway, especially overnight. Sheeeit, drop a backpack full of explosives with a timer in the Hoyt/Schermerhorn or Jay Street A train stations at 3 am and time to got off in 4 hours, shot would be destructive as fuck. Those stations were damn near empty in the middle of the night....I always figured it would be a matter of when not if.
 
Man, I remember living in NYC in the late 90s/early 2000s, always felt it could be mad easy to plant somethin in the subway, especially overnight. Sheeeit, drop a backpack full of explosives with a timer in the Hoyt/Schermerhorn or Jay Street A train stations at 3 am and time to got off in 4 hours, shot would be destructive as fuck. Those stations were damn near empty in the middle of the night....I always figured it would be a matter of when not if.

not anymore...

there is even MORE homeless folk, late shift workers uniform and under cover police security cameras...

and I aint about to even talk this up anymore that is bad juju right there...

:scared:
 
The problem is....this study should have took place a long time ago ,especially after 9/11. There have been discussions about this years ago .I'm thinking why now? NYC Subway is very vulnerable. Washington DC already had installed Chemical (Gas) Sensors in their Subway system right after the September attacks !!!
 
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not anymore...

there is even MORE homeless folk, late shift workers uniform and under cover police security cameras...

and I aint about to even talk this up anymore that is bad juju right there...

:scared:

Superbad juju.. Let's cut this shit out fellas. Some of us take the train into the city on a daily basis for work
 
actually what some of ya don't kno or remember was we actually was suppose to have an attack back in 2005..i remember cause i worked for a newspaper company..the terror alert was at it's highest for that weekend cause quote on quote they caught somebody from the taliban who had great info about an attack on the subway system..it was mad law enforcement that week around subway systems..anyway nothing ever happen.. most people never care or watched for a follow up story but i did.. -somehow, someway:rolleyes::rolleyes: the taliban person disappeared or escaped from authorities and they didn't kno what happen to them..lets put that in perspective folks a person with all this important info quote on quote is not heavily guarded and juss happens to walk off?? i always knew this sept 11 shit was bs but that shit took the cake of someguy juss mysteriously getting lost..nobody never seems to remember this story or care but this 1 was def part of the full of shit boogeyman taliban theory
 
Man, I remember living in NYC in the late 90s/early 2000s, always felt it could be mad easy to plant somethin in the subway, especially overnight. Sheeeit, drop a backpack full of explosives with a timer in the Hoyt/Schermerhorn or Jay Street A train stations at 3 am and time to got off in 4 hours, shot would be destructive as fuck. Those stations were damn near empty in the middle of the night....I always figured it would be a matter of when not if.


Hoyt/Schermerhorn is a police station. I doubt they ever try to target that stop.
 
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