NPR fires analyst Juan Williams after he says Muslims on planes make him nervous

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Let me weigh my options. Be called a slave by racist confused black men who think that the 2 party system will one day disappear or vote for the party who actually wants me to be a slave? Hmmmmmm. Watch The Daily Show where they call out mistakes on both sides or watch Fox News where they make up shit just to keep the sheep in check? Decisions decisions. Vote for the party who isn't perfect or vote for the party who has raped this country the most? Rally with the Tea Party with signs showing our President as a Voodoo Witch doctor or actually use my brain and vote regarding real issues. I'm 29. 20 of those years there has been a Republican President. Yet they keep using the same 3 issues (abortion, illegals, gay marriage) over and over like they have never had a chance to "fix" things. I am not retarded. I refuse to rally and support a party that uses fear as a way to get people to vote. The democrats may not be the saviors of black Americans (which we don't need if people would be responsible for themselves), but those of us smart enough to see through the bullshit that Republicans say, technically makes us the free people in this equation. Not slaves. Neither side is 100% right but the Republicans do an awful job at making non white men seem welcome with them. No person is 100% conservative or liberal. So enough with the labels. A black man saying a racist comment about being afraid of someone based on looks is equal to a freed slave becoming a slave master.

Its funny that the Republicans like criticize Democrats/liberal will destroy the country and yet they been in power 20 out of 29 years and yet still havent done shit for this country and want to say Democrats destroy the country....But people forget that this country had a surplus when Clinton left office and said nothing when Bush ran this country to the ground and when Obama is stuck with 2 wars,a recession and etc now people want to protest I've said many times but where were these same people when Bush was in office when ran this country to the ground.

Despite me voting for Obama I dont like some of his policies but I understand he's trying to get this country back on track because Bush fucked up for 8 years.

As for the whole Juan Williams situation I dont understand how can anyone can co-sign him saying what he said about Muslims I mean these will be the same people who will get upset if a white guy said ALL black men will rob white women and etc and yet they would co-sign this nonsense....

Their are over a billion Muslims all over the world,just because a few extremist does bullshit like that dont make the whole religion everyone like that....Its funny this country would talk about the extremist over in the middle east but dont say a word about the domestic terrorism in this country. *cough* Timothy McVeigh

 

[sirwoodz]

HEY SLAVES!!!​

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1290822&srvc=business&position=recent

NPR official admits fault in firing

National Public Radio’s ombudswoman admitted the nonprofit botched the firing of Juan Williams for his remarks about Muslims making him nervous on planes, but the firestorm around the longtime news analyst’s ouster has fueled speculation that it could be another boon for the GOP less than two weeks ahead of the hotly contested midterm elections.

“Thursday was a day like none I’ve experienced since coming to NPR in October 2007,” NPR Ombudswoman Alicia Shepard said. “Office phone lines rang nonstop. ... We’ve received more than 8,000 e-mails,” Shepard said. “The overwhelming majority are angry, furious, outraged. They want NPR to hire him back immediately. If NPR doesn’t, they want all public funding of public radio to stop. They promise to never donate again. They are as mad as hell, and want everyone to know it.”

The rage, one conservative commentator noted, speaks to many Americans’ midterm discontent with the liberal agenda.

“It’s a tremendous boost for the Republicans,” said blogger William Jacobson of LegalInsurrection.com. “It’s a motivator. It really has energized a lot of people.”

Williams reportedly has landed a three-year, $2 million contract with Fox News. At the left-leaning Talkingpointsmemo.com, Josh Marshall opined: “No more living a lie as a onetime journalist playing a fake liberal on Fox News.”

But conservative blogger Ed Morrissey of HotAir.com said Williams was paid for his opinions as a news analyst: “They’d be better off just saying, ‘Look, I know Juan won’t come back, but we really did screw up this time and we apologize.’ ”

Williams told “Good Morning America” yesterday, “I think they were looking for a reason to get rid of me. They were uncomfortable with the idea that I was talking to the likes of Bill O’Reilly or Sean Hannity.”

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) said he wants to cut NPR’s federal funding: “With record debt and unemployment, there’s simply no reason to force taxpayers to subsidize liberal programming they disagree with.”

In a lengthy column at NPR.org, Shepard defended the decision to fire Williams, wondering how Williams, who is black, would have reacted if another analyst had admitted nervousness at the sight of “an African American male in Dashiki with a big Afro.”

But Shepard said of NPR’s over-the-phone dismissal, “a more deliberative approach might have enabled NPR to avoid what has turned into a public relations nightmare.”

 

[Costanza]

couldn't a happend to a less self-respecting coon

This was my first reaction but I don't think it was a smart or proper move by NPR.

 

[RunawaySlave]

Damn, who knew a cat like Juan Williams could elicit such anger and emotional responses from both sides of an idiotic argument. I've never listened to that cat in my life, but the few times I've seen him on TV, he hardly struck me as the voice of liberalism. Maybe to some hard line, IDIOT, teabag supporting white folks, and to the "our media tells the truth" Skip Gates, Shelby Steele, Clarence Thomas, Michael Myers factions of the media black folks...but NEVER to the masses. If anything, he always struck me as an APOLOGIST for mainstram media and it's malfeasance towards poor people (white, black and other) across the US


so fuck him. whether he lives or dies who gives a shit
(answer: NOT ME)

 

[cjb]

Admittedly, I've only really started giving Fox News a chance for about a year now...but from what I've seen of Juan on Fox News so far...he's clearly a centrist democrat that supports and DEFENDS Obama...


He and Hannity ALWAYS go at it...they never agree.

He also never agrees on "Special Report" with Steve Hayes and Charles Krauthammer.

He generally is to the left of O'Reilly who, despite what the majority of you say, isn't really some trigger-happy Neo-Con.


He also has made comments on the tea party that he feels they have SOME racist elements that need to be eliminated....he was debating a black conservative(Danene Borelli) on "America Live" several months ago about this.


He's not some Daily Kos wacko like the vast majority of you guys...but he's not like other Fox News democrats, like Doug Schoen and Peter Johnson, who I feel really are Republicans in sheep's clothing...you dudes are zombies.

 

[roblo]

I flew to Atlanta from Dallas two weeks ago two gentlemen in mulsim garb were two rows ahead of me and you better fuckin believe I was paying attention to their asses. Juan said nothing a whole lot of folks feel when they get on planes with muslims. I hope my employer doesn't read bgol and find out how I felt. I need my job.We do have muslim customers you know. I watch fox news and msnbc to hear both sides of the arguments. I've never voted republican but am open to doing so. I definitely do not agree with a lot of the far left agenda and consider myself conservative on a lot of social issues. I'm voting for whoever's politics agree with my politics and if that happens to be a republican so be it. Juan is hardly a coon or uncle tom as some of you have called him. He is a moderate democrat that makes a lot of good points and 90% of the time is defending democratic issues. I hope they do pull funding from npr.

 

[W856]

Admittedly, I've only really started giving Fox News a chance for about a year now.

And this is why Fox News has the ratings it does. People who aren't hard right conservatives still watch it.

And NPR is considered liberal by conservatives so why do they care if Juan Williams gets fired from there?

Because I didn't hear that many liberals complain when Marc Lamont Hill was fired from Fox.

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

- bruh, check my post history. I have never supported a got damned thing that republicans have stated.

i've never supported a republican candidate.
i always voted democrat. since I was 18.

so just b/c i shit on democrats and liberals, doesn't mean I support the republican party...

i'm hard on democrats b/c everything you see in the black community happened on the democrats watch.

- AIDS
- Poverty
- entire communities w/0 fathers in the homes.
- 4 and 5 generations deep in the ghetto/projects
- self destructive attitudes and cultural behaviors going unchecked

they've even got it set up to where black leaders can make a nice little career as long as they don't get out of line (like juan williams did).

think about it...every single last one of us can get up in a room and spew some "democratic" shit and get the whole room to applaud us...but say some shit like bill cosby and you just may get escorted out of the building (ask yourself why was jesse jackson bawling uncontrollably @ that speech..he had to be handed a kleenex by his assitant...)

this is why you are a SLAVE. a voluntary SLAVE. you not only willingly put yourself in a SLAVES position, but you are willing to lay down and die to remain a SLAVE.

Hell...

...I agree 10,000%.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

​

Your simpleness is actually kind of endearing. As the conversation deepens, you regress further. I could set my watch to you.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

HEY SLAVES!!!​

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/media/view.bg?articleid=1290822&srvc=business&position=recent

NPR official admits fault in firing

National Public Radio’s ombudswoman admitted the nonprofit botched the firing of Juan Williams for his remarks about Muslims making him nervous on planes, but the firestorm around the longtime news analyst’s ouster has fueled speculation that it could be another boon for the GOP less than two weeks ahead of the hotly contested midterm elections.

“Thursday was a day like none I’ve experienced since coming to NPR in October 2007,” NPR Ombudswoman Alicia Shepard said. “Office phone lines rang nonstop. ... We’ve received more than 8,000 e-mails,” Shepard said. “The overwhelming majority are angry, furious, outraged. They want NPR to hire him back immediately. If NPR doesn’t, they want all public funding of public radio to stop. They promise to never donate again. They are as mad as hell, and want everyone to know it.”

The rage, one conservative commentator noted, speaks to many Americans’ midterm discontent with the liberal agenda.

“It’s a tremendous boost for the Republicans,” said blogger William Jacobson of LegalInsurrection.com. “It’s a motivator. It really has energized a lot of people.”

Williams reportedly has landed a three-year, $2 million contract with Fox News. At the left-leaning Talkingpointsmemo.com, Josh Marshall opined: “No more living a lie as a onetime journalist playing a fake liberal on Fox News.”

But conservative blogger Ed Morrissey of HotAir.com said Williams was paid for his opinions as a news analyst: “They’d be better off just saying, ‘Look, I know Juan won’t come back, but we really did screw up this time and we apologize.’ ”

Williams told “Good Morning America” yesterday, “I think they were looking for a reason to get rid of me. They were uncomfortable with the idea that I was talking to the likes of Bill O’Reilly or Sean Hannity.”

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) said he wants to cut NPR’s federal funding: “With record debt and unemployment, there’s simply no reason to force taxpayers to subsidize liberal programming they disagree with.”

In a lengthy column at NPR.org, Shepard defended the decision to fire Williams, wondering how Williams, who is black, would have reacted if another analyst had admitted nervousness at the sight of “an African American male in Dashiki with a big Afro.”

But Shepard said of NPR’s over-the-phone dismissal, “a more deliberative approach might have enabled NPR to avoid what has turned into a public relations nightmare.”

How is this any different than Fox News execs backpedaling when Beck called the President a "racist"? They caught a lot of flack and now they're moonwalking, slightly. They aren't actually apologizing for firing him but for how they fired him.

 

[Autobot8655]

- bruh, check my post history. I have never supported a got damned thing that republicans have stated.

i've never supported a republican candidate.
i always voted democrat. since I was 18.

so just b/c i shit on democrats and liberals, doesn't mean I support the republican party...

i'm hard on democrats b/c everything you see in the black community happened on the democrats watch.

- AIDS
- Poverty
- entire communities w/0 fathers in the homes.
- 4 and 5 generations deep in the ghetto/projects
- self destructive attitudes and cultural behaviors going unchecked

they've even got it set up to where black leaders can make a nice little career as long as they don't get out of line (like juan williams did).

think about it...every single last one of us can get up in a room and spew some "democratic" shit and get the whole room to applaud us...but say some shit like bill cosby and you just may get escorted out of the building (ask yourself why was jesse jackson bawling uncontrollably @ that speech..he had to be handed a kleenex by his assitant...)

this is why you are a SLAVE. a voluntary SLAVE. you not only willingly put yourself in a SLAVES position, but you are willing to lay down and die to remain a SLAVE.

good post

 

[Bluelaser]

- basically.

and these tobey's will co-sign them firing this man for this nonsense, but like i said in the other post

show me where these AYE-RAB muslims have EVER come to the defense of specific black issues...

the bottom line is that Juan Williams wasn't being a good democratic slave n*gg*r, and the democrats cut off his pay check.

and yall applaud that!?!? got damn slaves.

Agreed

 

[Built4Life]

 

[sharkbait28]

This was my first reaction but I don't think it was a smart or proper move by NPR.

Agreed

Excellent post

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I know this wasn't directed at me, and I'm not directing this at you... but it made me want to explain my political position. When I vote, I usually vote democratic, although I consider myself center/independent. I see things that make sense and things that are batshit crazy on both sides, especially towards the extremes. In my lifetime though, the republican party has been pulled more towards their extreme side, because since 1964 (a few years before I was born) it has worked wonderfully for them. They got the southern/bible belt vote locked up, along with the Dakota/wyoming-type northern states, and they did it by embracing the southern voting strategy, which depends in large part on white people being afraid of me.

I don't harbor any illusions about the democrats being a whole lot better for black people, and locally especially, I have voted for republicans and 3rd partiers when they seemed like the best candidates. On the national level though, that southern strategy has made it almost impossible for a republican that I could vote for to get the nomination. Tom Kean was the governor of NJ right before I became old enough to vote, and I could ride with a republican like that... but a republican like that would never get the nomination. In the present day republican party, it's actually a plus to be at least slightly redneckish, and to make sure that straight up rednecks think/know you're one of them. That makes it hard to support that team nationally. Nowadays with the tea party shit, the extreme, redneck stuff has even reached NJ unfortunately.


If a republican is running nationally on a platform that I think is the right platform, without having to co-sign every single thing the national party and most definitely the tea party demands, I will consider giving my vote. As of late, that hasn't happened, and I don't see it happening. If everybody running is shit though, either I just won't vote, or if the rhetoric is too redneck-friendly like lately on the republican side, for me the tie goes to the democrat, because at least for the most part, that side doesn't purposely try to embrace the part of the population that hates me.

Agreed.

Damn, who knew a cat like Juan Williams could elicit such anger and emotional responses from both sides of an idiotic argument. I've never listened to that cat in my life, but the few times I've seen him on TV, he hardly struck me as the voice of liberalism. Maybe to some hard line, IDIOT, teabag supporting white folks, and to the "our media tells the truth" Skip Gates, Shelby Steele, Clarence Thomas, Michael Myers factions of the media black folks...but NEVER to the masses. If anything, he always struck me as an APOLOGIST for mainstram media and it's malfeasance towards poor people (white, black and other) across the US


so fuck him. whether he lives or dies who gives a shit
(answer: NOT ME)

Admittedly, I've only really started giving Fox News a chance for about a year now...but from what I've seen of Juan on Fox News so far...he's clearly a centrist democrat that supports and DEFENDS Obama...


He and Hannity ALWAYS go at it...they never agree.

He also never agrees on "Special Report" with Steve Hayes and Charles Krauthammer.

He generally is to the left of O'Reilly who, despite what the majority of you say, isn't really some trigger-happy Neo-Con.


He also has made comments on the tea party that he feels they have SOME racist elements that need to be eliminated....he was debating a black conservative(Danene Borelli) on "America Live" several months ago about this.


He's not some Daily Kos wacko like the vast majority of you guys...but he's not like other Fox News democrats, like Doug Schoen and Peter Johnson, who I feel really are Republicans in sheep's clothing...you dudes are zombies.

Funny how two people can watch the same guy on the same channel and get two different views.
Personally, I started watching FNC when I heard Williams was on it because I remembered him as the moderate but left leaning guy from "America's Black Forum". What I saw was far from that. I kept watching thinking maybe he was having an off night but almost never saw anything different from him so I gave up on him.
He apologized for a White man's bigotry one time too many.

I flew to Atlanta from Dallas two weeks ago two gentlemen in mulsim garb were two rows ahead of me and you better fuckin believe I was paying attention to their asses. Juan said nothing a whole lot of folks feel when they get on planes with muslims. I hope my employer doesn't read bgol and find out how I felt. I need my job.We do have muslim customers you know. I watch fox news and msnbc to hear both sides of the arguments. I've never voted republican but am open to doing so. I definitely do not agree with a lot of the far left agenda and consider myself conservative on a lot of social issues. I'm voting for whoever's politics agree with my politics and if that happens to be a republican so be it. Juan is hardly a coon or uncle tom as some of you have called him. He is a moderate democrat that makes a lot of good points and 90% of the time is defending democratic issues. I hope they do pull funding from npr.

The excuse that "a lot of people think that" is not valid. Some people bristle when the gay rights/Black rights comparison is made but it damn sure applies this time. I'm wondering how many of you rose up to defend Dr. Laura and Rick Sanchez and Don Imus.

If the government did pull funding from NPR, as has been suggested by Mike Huckabee, that would be actual censorship because then it's the government taking action. Funny.