Now we know why Isaiah Thomas was left off the DREAM TEAM

[vandamation]

Scottie's stat's aren't going to leap out of the screen like Nique's did but his overall game and ability to guard 4 positions ranked him ahead of Nique especially in a side kick role.

There's NO WAY you can tell me 17pts and 7 rebounds is BETTER THAN 28pts and 6 rebounds...
No matter how you SPIN it... rationalize it... it's IMPOSSIBLE...
Scottie played on a BETTER TEAM... That's the difference... on any other team... he would been considered... just good... NOT great...

 

[Crypto]

That was informative.

 

[daman200]

Kissing Buddies

 

[Philli]

There's NO WAY you can tell me 17pts and 7 rebounds is BETTER THAN 28pts and 6 rebounds...
No matter how you SPIN it... rationalize it... it's IMPOSSIBLE...
Scottie played on a BETTER TEAM... That's the difference... on any other team... he would been considered... just good... NOT great...

The same way Chris Paul's 15.9 and 9.8 assists compare to Russell Westbrook 21.9 and 8.2 assists.

And Scottie averaged 21 pts and 7.7 rebounds the season before the Olympics.

 

[tonydons2]

There's NO WAY you can tell me 17pts and 7 rebounds is BETTER THAN 28pts and 6 rebounds...
No matter how you SPIN it... rationalize it... it's IMPOSSIBLE...
Scottie played on a BETTER TEAM... That's the difference... on any other team... he would been considered... just good... NOT great...

You are gonna hafta watch the games to knows who is better. And in 1992... its definitely Scottie Pippen. Scottie was the premier defender in the league (something nobody else provided on the Dream Team). Scottie started most of the Olympic games, and his versatility is what sets him apart. He was a point forward that could handle the offense and defend every position. Stuffed the stat line, whereas Nique was ONLY a scorer (something not needed on this team with Barkley, Jordan, Drexler, Mullin, Bird on the wings)

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Chicago stay wit the best hoopers alive

 

[vandamation]

The same way Chris Paul's 15.9 and 9.8 assists compare to Russell Westbrook 21.9 and 8.2 assists.
And Scottie averaged 21 pts and 7.7 rebounds the season before the Olympics.

First of all... Russell had a BETTER year than Chris Paul... and he was actually PLAYING BETTER up until the conference finals... Second... I'm not denying Pippen's greatness... I'm just pointing out that somebody had a BETTER YEAR... and played BETTER... 'Nique Wilkins... The numbers prove it... Scottie played on a BETTER team... That's the difference... It's NO knock on Scottie... 'Nique just just played better.

You are gonna hafta watch the games to knows who is better. And in 1992... its definitely Scottie Pippen. Scottie was the premier defender in the league (something nobody else provided on the Dream Team). Scottie started most of the Olympic games, and his versatility is what sets him apart. He was a point forward that could handle the offense and defend every position. Stuffed the stat line, whereas Nique was ONLY a scorer (something not needed on this team with Barkley, Jordan, Drexler, Mullin, Bird on the wings)

Listen... I understand why Scottie was there... and he BELONGED THERE... He's the greatest complimentary player to Jordan... And he's a better defender than 'Nique... he WAS NOT BETTER Nique... HE PLAYED ON A BETTER TEAM... That's all... When you look at the Hawks and you look at the Bulls... WHO'S THE BETTER TEAM???... ... EXACTLY.... AND... Let's get real... NOBODY NEEDED DEFENSE ON THAT TEAM... You got Patrick Ewing... David Robinson guarding the bucket... Then, you have Magic... Bird... and Mike... Those other teams were in AWE of those guys... Teams LOST walking in the building... Defense was NOT a priority like that...

 

[bgque12]

wtf

Damn!! Did you see how long ot took for one of his teammates to come to his defense

 

[bgque12]

Anybody who thinks Stockton was better than Zeke doesn't know a damn thing about basketball. I watched Zeke drop 25 in the 4th quarter of the NBA finals one one leg!! Stockton can't even hang out in the same stratusphere as Zeke. Was Zeke an asshole? YES but he was one of the best asshole to ever play.

 

[april69]

ScottiePippen is a dumb black ****** whose opinion should never be respected again. You would think that after hanging with Jordan all these years he would learn to speak correct English. This is the same guy who said LeBron is better than Jordan.

Idiot...he said on that clip that the DreamTeam could have won without Isaiah ...hell that team would have won without Jordan/Magic/Barkley....that team was an over reaction to an earlier loss. And then he said the team already had good point guards....the fact is they didn't have the best point guard idiot. Adding Stockton over Isaiah was purely racist but his dumb black ass can't see it.

 

[c_commander]

There's NO WAY you can tell me 17pts and 7 rebounds is BETTER THAN 28pts and 6 rebounds...
No matter how you SPIN it... rationalize it... it's IMPOSSIBLE...
Scottie played on a BETTER TEAM... That's the difference... on any other team... he would been considered... just good... NOT great...

Based on your rationale Andrea Barnagni is a better player than Manu Ginobilli and Joe Johnson.If a guy scores 28 and lets the guy he's guarding equal or exceed his normal production is that more valuable than somebody who scores less but holds his opponents below their usual play?Also Nique was the lead option on his team and Pippen was not the first option on his.The thing with the Dream Team is that while the were amongst the best in the NBA they also filled roles and Pippen's role was to be the versatile defender a role that Dominique would have no chance to fill.While he had a great season the year before I wouldn't have minded if Clyde Drexler wasn't on the team.

 

[Pworld297]

christian laettner

They should of chosen Shaq over Laettner, no way Laettner should of been on that team.

 

[Philli]

First of all... Russell had a BETTER year than Chris Paul... and he was actually PLAYING BETTER up until the conference finals... Second... I'm not denying Pippen's greatness... I'm just pointing out that somebody had a BETTER YEAR... and played BETTER... 'Nique Wilkins... The numbers prove it... Scottie played on a BETTER team... That's the difference... It's NO knock on Scottie... 'Nique just just played better.

Russell took a lot more shots than Chris Paul and had significantly better scoring numbers. Chris Paul is the better player and better team player. His numbers don't quite show how much better he is than Russell Westbrook but it is pretty much common knowledge.

Dominique was one dimensional in many aspects of his game. Scottie was All-NBA second team and All NBA first team on defense playing as the second option in 1992. Dominique was not. For the sake of this argument, Chris Paul= Scottie Pippen and Russell Westbrook= Dominique Wilkins.

 

[bgque12]

Russell took a lot more shots than Chris Paul and had significantly better scoring numbers. Chris Paul is the better player and better team player. His numbers don't quite show how much better he is than Russell Westbrook but it is pretty much common knowledge.

Dominique was one dimensional in many aspects of his game. Scottie was All-NBA second team and All NBA first team on defense playing as the second option in 1992. Dominique was not. For the sake of this argument, Chris Paul= Scottie Pippen and Russell Westbrook= Dominique Wilkins.

When Scottie had the chance to be the man he failed. 'Nique never failed. He just didn't have all the pieces in place.

 

[Philli]

When Scottie had the chance to be the man he failed. 'Nique never failed. He just didn't have all the pieces in place.

How did he not fail? How far has Nique ever gotten in the Playoff's? He failed every year in the sense that he could not get very far in the playoffs. He never made even to an Eastern Conference Finals with the Hawks

 

[vandamation]

Russell took a lot more shots than Chris Paul and had significantly better scoring numbers. Chris Paul is the better player and better team player. His numbers don't quite show how much better he is than Russell Westbrook but it is pretty much common knowledge.

Dominique was one dimensional in many aspects of his game. Scottie was All-NBA second team and All NBA first team on defense playing as the second option in 1992. Dominique was not. For the sake of this argument, Chris Paul= Scottie Pippen and Russell Westbrook= Dominique Wilkins.

How did he not fail? How far has Nique ever gotten in the Playoff's? He failed every year in the sense that he could not get very far in the playoffs. He never made even to an Eastern Conference Finals with the Hawks

In terms of Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook... Russell Westbrook ALSO played on a better team... He also is NOT a natural point guard like Chris Paul... but he did a VERY good job playing the position... Can Chris Paul play the SG as effectively as Russell played point...

Second... Scottie simply played on a better team... with the GREATEST PLAYER EVER... 'Nique didn't... When you take away their respective teams... and you put both players side to side... 'Nique's number are MORE than comparable... That being said... Neither I or anybody else can TAKE AWAY Scottie's accomplishments... You can make the argument for OR against when comes to Scottie and 'Nique... I just wanted to point out that Scottie WASN'T the end all.. BE ALL... when it came to small forwards...

 

[bgque12]

How did he not fail? How far has Nique ever gotten in the Playoff's? He failed every year in the sense that he could not get very far in the playoffs. He never made even to an Eastern Conference Finals with the Hawks

What did he have around him Doc rivers and Spud Webb. How was he gonna get to the finals with that. Scottie had a loaded squad that was only minus Jordan and he couldn't do it. In fact, he refused to go back into a game when Jackson drew up a play for Kokoch(sp) face it. Scottie ate of MJ's plate.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

i have no problem with niggas shittin on pippen

 

[vandamation]

Based on your rationale Andrea Barnagni is a better player than Manu Ginobilli and Joe Johnson.If a guy scores 28 and lets the guy he's guarding equal or exceed his normal production is that more valuable than somebody who scores less but holds his opponents below their usual play?Also Nique was the lead option on his team and Pippen was not the first option on his.The thing with the Dream Team is that while the were amongst the best in the NBA they also filled roles and Pippen's role was to be the versatile defender a role that Dominique would have no chance to fill.While he had a great season the year before I wouldn't have minded if Clyde Drexler wasn't on the team.

When did Bargnani average 28 pts per game in a season... ... If he did then that would make him BETTER THAN Ginobili and Johnson... :yes:

 

[PhillyTheKid]

Zeke should have been on that game... He was BETTER than Stockton... and he got SHITTED on... The ONLY person who shouldn't have been there was Laettner... He was a WASTE OF SPACE...

I think the had to pick a college player. Like it or not, Laettner was arguably the best college player in the country at that time. Thats why he was picked.

 

[cbm_redux]

It's not exactly a secret that Thomas was an asshole and not very well-liked.

Bitch please. He might not have been well liked in cracka-ass Boston. But, that nigga can do no wrong in this neck of the woods. Zeke was a baby-faced assassin and the baddest of the Bad Boys.

 

[tonydons2]

The best statistic to rate players is the "+/-" stat. In my opinion, Scottie Pippen was the best "+/-" small forward of the time. Good players production went down went he was guarding them!!

 

[TruckTurner35]

Here's the thing, the team didn't need Zeke. Once you looked at that roster you KNEW that team was going to kill whoever they played. So the gold medal was a given. Because of that there was no way players were going to allow someone they hated into the party. And as for Stockton, yeah one on one Zeke killed him, but Stockton went with Malone and they were better together than they were apart.

If Zeke didn't like it he shouldn't have been such a bitch ass during his career. Because game recognizes game. Once Jordan and the Bulls got past the Pistons (finally) a true competitor (and non-bitch ass) would have shaken hands. He wouldn't have had to kiss, hug, and say what a great player Jordan was after the game. Hell, he wouldn't even needed to have spoken during the post-game handshake. Would that handshake have put him on the team? Nope, cause he was still a bitch ass!

 

[Ruff Ryder]

It's not exactly a secret that Thomas was an asshole and not very well-liked.

Bitch please. He might not have been well liked in cracka-ass Boston. But, that nigga can do no wrong in this neck of the woods. Zeke was a baby-faced assassin and the baddest of the Bad Boys.

 

[tonydons2]

Here's the thing, the team didn't need Zeke. Once you looked at that roster you KNEW that team was going to kill whoever they played. So the gold medal was a given. Because of that there was no way players were going to allow someone they hated into the party. And as for Stockton, yeah one on one Zeke killed him, but Stockton went with Malone and they were better together than they were apart.

If Zeke didn't like it he shouldn't have been such a bitch ass during his career. Because game recognizes game. Once Jordan and the Bulls got past the Pistons (finally) a true competitor (and non-bitch ass) would have shaken hands. He wouldn't have had to kiss, hug, and say what a great player Jordan was after the game. Hell, he wouldn't even needed to have spoken during the post-game handshake. Would that handshake have put him on the team? Nope, cause he was still a bitch ass!

Agreed

 

[tonydons2]

Here's the thing, the team didn't need Zeke. Once you looked at that roster you KNEW that team was going to kill whoever they played. So the gold medal was a given. Because of that there was no way players were going to allow someone they hated into the party. And as for Stockton, yeah one on one Zeke killed him, but Stockton went with Malone and they were better together than they were apart.

If Zeke didn't like it he shouldn't have been such a bitch ass during his career. Because game recognizes game. Once Jordan and the Bulls got past the Pistons (finally) a true competitor (and non-bitch ass) would have shaken hands. He wouldn't have had to kiss, hug, and say what a great player Jordan was after the game. Hell, he wouldn't even needed to have spoken during the post-game handshake. Would that handshake have put him on the team? Nope, cause he was still a bitch ass!

Agreed

 

[Rick Ronson]

Isaiah Thomas is one of my all time favorite NBA players (top 10)

 

[Ruff Ryder]

If Zeke didn't like it he shouldn't have been such a bitch ass during his career. Because game recognizes game. Once Jordan and the Bulls got past the Pistons (finally) a true competitor (and non-bitch ass) would have shaken hands. He wouldn't have had to kiss, hug, and say what a great player Jordan was after the game. Hell, he wouldn't even needed to have spoken during the post-game handshake. Would that handshake have put him on the team? Nope, cause he was still a bitch ass!

Hmmm, a NCAA National Champion, 12 time NBA All Star, and a Back to Back NBA Champion, yeah he must have been a big bitch.

Bottom line is you don't know what went down between Thomas and Jordan on/off the court.

 

[3 Times]

Isaiah Thomas did one of the worst things you could ever do in sports from a players perspective. He orchestrated the walk-out against the Bulls. Disrespect of an opponent that you beat up for years that finally defeats you is PUSSY. If Isiah displays this level of PUSSY on the grandest of stages at the grandest of moments (a passing of torch to what would become a team that's lead by none other than the greatest player to ever play any sport of all time in the history of civilization, but that's another argument for another time) what kind of PUSSY did Isiah display on the low with no cameras around. It's a disgusting thought.


Bottom line, Isiah's a skunk. He shitted on the Knicks. Harassed female staff (allegedly). Embraced a style of if I can't beat you I'll beat you up basketball. Finally gets loses with the style and orchestrates a walk-out WHILE THE GAME IS STILL BEING PLAYED.


Joe D the only player that stayed and he's gotten love for being his own man. Ironically the fortune has also been good to him as he is one of a few former player GMs with a chip. MJ can't say that.

 

[vandamation]

I think the had to pick a college player. Like it or not, Laettner was arguably the best college player in the country at that time. Thats why he was picked.

I understand why Laettner was there... BUT he was a USELESS... They didn't need him there... it was a wasted roster spot.

 

[playahaitian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqbSjJBlL0



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[incogneg]

Good story to hear from the horses mouth

Nothing New here to anyone who was watching the NBA in that ERa

Everyone put it on Michael for Isaiah not being on the team, but it was really a bunch of guys... It's funny no one before stood up and said it wasn't just MJ that didn't want him on the team...

Drexler had the 'fairer' answer to that. His talent was there, but cats just didnt' fuck with him... All good

 

[incogneg]

Zeke was on the downside at the time, while Stockton was in his record-breaking PG prime. No contest, especially given what a shithead Thomas was.

Question: It seems that the team had PASS FIRST point guards, and from what i know about Isaiah's legacy he was a shoot first point guard / or at the very least a combo guard? So they didnt' really need him to score right?

 

[Complex]

Larry Bird was better... 'Nique was better...

Bullshit.... because those other Olympic teams had PROS on them... Why do you think they did the DREAM TEAM in the first place... America was the ONLY country NOT using PROS...for years... I understand why Laettner was there BUT he was a WASTE OF SPACE nonetheless...

Stockton was nowhere NEAR as good as Isiah... NOWHERE... Isiah used to ABUSE John Stockton... He GAVE Stockton nightmares... ONLY Magic, Jordan, Hakeem the Dream and Bird were better... MAybe Karl Malone... THAT'S IT... Everybody else were LESSER TALENTS... INCLUDING SCOTTIE PIPPEN... who was a product of Jordan's success...

 

[incogneg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqbSjJBlL0



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Yoooo. This was great!!!! He kept it all the way real