Who's the beast? Steph or Lebron?
We know they both are, but my goodness I'm pumped to see that rematch. But I'm also pumped to see how OKC handles themselves. I'm pump to see how GS handle 10000 rattle snakes coming at them.
Now Lebron James disses Steve kerr for being Coach of the year
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Who's the beast? Steph or Lebron?
We know they both are, but my goodness I'm pumped to see that rematch. But I'm also pumped to see how OKC handles themselves. I'm pump to see how GS handle 10000 rattle snakes coming at them.
He could say some politically correct answer in a way he don't answer the question. Stop acting like lebron doesn't like the attention.
I was telling my homeboy this...man just say if a healthy Cavs team beat the Warriors this year, because of an injury.
The warriors already are some fucking pricks and use anything to fuel their energy. Them dudes probably wouldn't be able to sleep and come back in 2017 and try to broke they're own record and while waiting for the Cavs in the finals.
The nba ratings would be in another orbit if that shit would play out like that.
Lebron is jealous i just wish he would just fuck the warriors, Thats why I like Westbrook.......he just going say what he feels........He going to make it a rivalry with straight talk not that passive aggressive shit like Lebron.
If the Cavs win for any reason, the NBA will do its best to make sure them two meet up again.
You mean 2 rattle snakes lmaoo
Let me exaggerated some, boss. Lol.
Oh they both are beast, but GS dont talk shit thru the media; at least its not being reported; one of the reasons why GS went on this rampage this year was because of others talking shit; I think Steph and the whole team like that shit; You see steph talking mad shit during the game, like bitch you better respect me; And I think he pushes the whole team to act like that; You see how Klay starts walking, and green starts yapping; Them mofos gonna be ready...
Pops is a straight asshole to the media. On talk radio, they kill him for it, but you never see it at the press conferences.
Lebron should have said nothing. Just be diplomatic and keep it moving,but he is passive aggressive so that was expected.
everybody has an opinion but since its coming from lebron its gonna get magnified 10 times than usual. lebron knows this we know this. he could just not answer the question or give some bullshit ass answer then everybody would be like ...wtf. i agree with him on coach of the year. many other coaches did more with less
You making my point though...
Why is Pop given special treatment? and this ain't new or even unique for white coaches in all sports.
Yeah I hear the critics and their own colleagues regularly shout them down and Co sign Pop.
So it's not the same on any level I don't care what pop psychology ya'll want to use here...do the same to the white coaches.
Cause when it's Pop it's oh thats just Pop being Pop, but Bron or a any other Black athlete got psychological issues from having a single mother or some such.
Bullshit...athletes from all leagues give messed up answers all the time. And this wasn't even messed up or slick.
Funny they ain't no follow up questions when Bron brings up black issues or donates scholarships.
But if Westbrook dancing on the sidelines it's a damn outside the lines special.
But all those blown calls during the playoffs?
Crickets.
He said it
he aint backtrack or apologize ...how that passive?
David Blatt could take GSW to finals and win.
It makes no difference to me whether Lebron said it or not. He can say whatever he pleases. Of course, the media is going to excoriate the Black athlete. That is what they do here in the good ole US of A.
They need to get on Pop for that or the league does. The same with Bellicheat.
I dont feel like digging through 15+ years of stats for the coaches/players that you mentioned. Digging thru two years is easier...so lets stay on topic....LoL
Btw.....MJ, Shaq, Kobe or not.....I do feel like Phil ran a system that helped his teams win. The Warriors look like they free styling more times than not...but I could be wrong.
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Can u have a great coach without a great player (s)??.if so show me...and to your point, again going by what you stated earlier, apply those same things you stating about Kerr to all those other coaches that are considered great...I'm sure it will be the same..just because u might not like kerr doesn't mean he not good.....
Westbrook leaves it in the court. When the whistle sounds he leaves all those emotions on the court.
After the game he gives props when they are due. You right, there are no sub tweets or slick talk.
I mean is he wrong tho?
Lebron is a more naturally gifted Athlete..
Curry in all of his awesomeness, wouldnt even exist in the nba if it wasnt
for his father...
This is a big year for both of them...
If Curry wins the chip he will officially be in the top five greatest players of all time
if lebron wins, he is King James of the League again.....
this year is crucial....
we witnessing basketball history mayne!!!!
I never said I didnt like Kerr. He's a former Bull, I got love for him. I also stated that he was a good coach. So stop making stuff up.
The topic of this thread is whether or not Kerr deserved the Coach of the year award. LBJ said he didnt. I agreed. Then I stated the reasons why.
Did Phil and Pop have great players on their teams? Yes. But imho, both of them GREW into great coaches through trail and error. While Duncan, MJ etc grew into HOF players....Phil and Pop grew with them. Im giving props to coaches who I feel put in work, youre giving props to coaches who fall into perfect situations at the opportune time.
You all keep comparing apples (2 year stints) to oranges (hard fought legacies). When you start breaking things down, and proving how the comparisons make no sense, then thats when people call you a hater, blah blah blah.
Its not Steph and Kerr fault that MJ had a tough time with the Pistons. I understand that. But im not gonna play the "media game" and give TOO MUCH props for something that came easy. I cant do it . My apologies.
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man, Kerr has been playing for helluva long time. He was coached under Lute Olsen, Phil Jackson, and Pop to name a few. He knows his shit and people saying that Jackson would have been doing the same damn thing.
Jackson might have started the process on building the team, but Kerr took it to another level.
This is the reason they fired Jackson: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/12/6/7344165/mark-jackson-warriors-reasons-joe-lacob
Jackson's staff, consisting of Lindsay Hunter, Brian Scalabrine, Pete Myers, Jerry DeGregorio and Darren Erman, clearly failed to meet the standards of management. Making matters worse, he publicly clashed with two of them. First, Scalabrine was reassigned to the Warriors D-League affiliate after what Jackson called "a difference in philosophy" and then Erman was fired for secretly recording coaches' meetings, allegedly to share them with front office personnel. There was clearly a dysfunctional environment among Jackson's inner circle.
True. But he didn't win it last year, and won the championship. This year, even though he was out for health reasons for some time, he managed to help the team win more games than any other team in NBA history. That and itself is an accomplishment. It didn't hurt he had Curry and others, but most teams have 1 to 2 stars regardless. If GS makes it to the finals, they came out of one of the deepest conferences the West has ever had. Can't say the same thing for the Cavs.
Kerr opened the shit up for Curry and the rest of the team to win offensively. Defensively, they are able to make stops when they need them. If Jackson would have done the same thing for the 3 years he was in GS, this discussion would not have came about.
If Lebron stayed on the heatCurry said as long as he's here Lebron not eatin
They woulda smashed GS
Golden State became a top defensive team during Marc's final year. And they got there via adding players, changing schemes and staying healthy. In that year they were in the top 5; right under teams like the Pacers & my Chicago Bulls.
Offensively, GS has always been a top 10 team. Even during that 2011-2012 year (the Year Marc got hired) they were still ranked #11 or #12?? despite Curry playing only 26 games and GS barely winning 20. What propelled them to #1 was Kerr opening things up via taking the leash off Curry. Steph Curry STAYING HEALTHY, and hitting a lot of those 1,532 three pointers that he attempted over the last two seasons, is what made GS offense look so impressive. Those three pointers was also a key reason why a lot of their games got so out of hand so quickly.
The Warriors started making major strides during that 2012-2013 season, in which Curry played over 70 games. The next season they started to look even better.
In 2014-2015 Marc is pushed out and Kerr basically inherits a finished product; Curry is in his prime and that Goliath called the Spurs was starting to turn rusty. Only thing that was in their way in 2014-2015 was that "Im Home" debacle in Cleveland.
You dont know if Marc wouldve gotten them to the promise land last year or not because he not got the chance to take them there. No matter how you try to make Kerr seem like a "Master Mind", bottom line is he lucked into something that was already on the verge of greatness; And he shouldnt have won COY this year. Simple as that!
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this is what you said from where my comments stem from:
Now maybe you are being sarcastic, but if not you are clearly trying to diminish what Kerr has accomplished; you are clearly implying that he isnt doing much because he has great players; Ok, that may be true and I can see your point; but if that is your logic and your standards; then how much work did Phil do with either the bulls or those lakers teams?? Phil never was there in the beginning with those teams; How much work did pop truly do coaching 4 hall of famers and numerous of other good players from Sean Elliot to Mario Elie etc etc??? The Spurs should have never got Duncan; and if David Roberson wouldnt have been hurt the year before, they would have never been in the lottery to begin with; I mean dont those same standards that you have against Kerr, have to apply to them also??
I don't know. But the cat that subbed for him got a great job offer. So which is it? Coaches have to put systems in place, but they also have to adapt on the fly.
So we gon act like Luke wasnt running Kerrs system?
We gon act like Kerr just sat in bed aND observed from far?
It's like a Sergeant getting props for winning the war when it was the Generals plan that made it all come together.
We gon act like Kerr just sat in bed aND observed from far?
It's like a Sergeant getting props for winning the war when it was the Generals plan that made it all come together.
I'm sure Kerr was on the phone constantly too
Once again, I give Props to Phil and Pop because they put in work. For the hell of it, I honestly think Tom Tibby is a better orchestrator than Kerr as well. Kerr is a good coach, but im not about to compare him to guys WHO I FEEL put in more work or were able to achieve more with less.
As for the "7 games coached" thing, that was sarcasm. But still, that 73-9 record is what got Kerr the majority of those COY votes. But I dont feel like he deserved the award. Simple as that!
Teams and players that had to fight hard, then came out on top, are more impressive, imho....lol
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I knew it...and I called it
BSPN of course now is Co signing Lebron take. How he is making fair points he is best overall player Yadda yadda
Told ya'll. We can't falling for the Okey doke.
BSPN of course now is Co signing Lebron take. How he is making fair points he is best overall player Yadda yadda
Told ya'll. We can't falling for the Okey doke.
Bron need to chill because if he wants to make that argument then some can say Steph is just as valuable to his team and the league.. He's as much a transcendent player as Lebron is..
One could say Spo should get some consideration.
Oh he is and after listening to Bron interview more than once he made that quite clear. He respect Steph.
Funny how Steph, smart ass response got no criticism.
Bro, when they turn on STEPH? Jesus Mary and Joseph light skin dudes thought it has tough BEFORE?
It is gonna be bloody...just wait.
But LeBron need to go full Jordan and say nothing of substance. ..
He then need to just promote black issues every damn time....every time.
Let's see what they say then.
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