http://www.ajc.com/news/court-knew-man-jailed-91036.html?imw=Y
The man was defrauded. Why is he setting in jail and not the female. When the DNA showed he was not the father then all blame should be placed on the woman.
That doesn't really matter in GA. Any woman could go up to the court and say LD is the daddy and if LD doesn't show up in court then he will have an order put out against him. Don't need DNA to do it.
Even if you go take the test and prove it's not yours you are still responsible for child support. In fact I'm not sure how he got future payments stopped because once that order is placed you are responsible. It's a fucked up law in GA but it's the truth. Seen a few guys I know personally go through it.
I hope you don't live in GA!
Cause if you do then you don't know your rights at all. All the court has to do in GA is ATTEMPT to serve you. Look it up. There is a lot of shit wrong with GA child support laws and that is one. A woman can walk into court and as long as she can prove you had a relationship with her and gives out identifying info then you can get stuck. Don't need to prove that it's the correct address or anything. Seen it happen but dude who it happened to was smart enough to petition and get it dropped when he found out.
Not possible.
That doesn't really matter in GA. Any woman could go up to the court and say LD is the daddy and if LD doesn't show up in court then he will have an order put out against him. Don't need DNA to do it.
Even if you go take the test and prove it's not yours you are still responsible for child support. In fact I'm not sure how he got future payments stopped because once that order is placed you are responsible. It's a fucked up law in GA but it's the truth. Seen a few guys I know personally go through it.
That's not a child support law, that's a law of the courts. If you have not been served/summoned, they cannot proceed with an order against you. Now if you can show me anything besides anecdotal evidence that shows that you can have a legally binding court order formed against you without you receiving formal notice, they I will agree that you are right. That's like saying a court hearing can proceed against you without you being served if someone is suing you.
That doesn't really matter in GA. Any woman could go up to the court and say LD is the daddy and if LD doesn't show up in court then he will have an order put out against him. Don't need DNA to do it.
Even if you go take the test and prove it's not yours you are still responsible for child support. In fact I'm not sure how he got future payments stopped because once that order is placed you are responsible. It's a fucked up law in GA but it's the truth. Seen a few guys I know personally go through it.
I hope you don't live in GA!
Cause if you do then you don't know your rights at all. All the court has to do in GA is ATTEMPT to serve you. Look it up. There is a lot of shit wrong with GA child support laws and that is one. A woman can walk into court and as long as she can prove you had a relationship with her and gives out identifying info then you can get stuck. Don't need to prove that it's the correct address or anything. Seen it happen but dude who it happened to was smart enough to petition and get it dropped when he found out.
And where did you read that he got served anything? It said the child was born in 87 and in 89 the man went to apply for public assistance and was TOLD that he owed back child support and agreed to pay it. TOLD not court ordered. Didn't say he signed anything in 87 did it? So if he had split up with the woman in 87 and didn't hear anything about it until 89 exactly how was GHR telling him he owed back child support?
He agreed to pay it because if he didn't agree he couldn't apply for public assistance. Trust me I know when I had to sign up for unemployment. But I had a court order and agreed to pay child support. How exactly did he get his under your logic two years retroactively without ever going to court on it?
See the flaw in your logic.
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For real. know ya rights is right i didnt @ 17 and no real info into or money to put to it and still payin 13yrs later. court told me that positive or not im stuck payin about the same. but till its reversed it continues to accumulate. The shit u do as a kid can beat ya ass as an adult, i feel his pain.
Even if this man did not know his rights, (which he didn't), you can't expect every man to. Which is why he is suppose to have legal representation...him not having this is about tantamount to being arrested without your Miranda rights. Which one could argue that his 'back' child support could them become void.
Even bigger in the picture the mother had to know that Hatley was not the father so why is she not prosecuted as well? She should have to pay back what was already given to her to Hatley, as I have seen in other states. I just don't personally understand how after DNA testing he has to pay back monies when the state 'thought' he was a deadbeat dad. Isn't that what the test was for? So that he didn't have to pay if he was found not to be the father?
My conclusion stands.
Fuck you, Georgia.
Fuck you.
Dude what do you think arrears are? It's back child support.
And yes like I said when the man is served he is ordered to pay child support WITHOUT A COURT ORDER! Because if it takes 10 years for them to find the father and serve him then by what you are saying he shouldn't have to pay shit until he is served and I have said three times now that is not the case. They are in effect pinning a previous judgement onto a new case and calling it a day?
You were the one who disagreed with it!
What stuff did I edit?
I said I misspoke on the 89 assistance part for the man. Explained that in detail but this is what I was talking about the whole time. I'm missing your point? Or did you miss mine cause now you cosigning what I said up top?
So this is the man being charged for child support without a court order isn't it? Seeing how I would have to pay for something I had no notice of and never went to court for like I said right?
Oh and you can be charged arrears if the woman is on Peachcare or Medicaid or any other assistance not just welfare. And you can be ordered to pay back support for child care (insurance) even if she is not on public assistance.
No I didn't.
You said a man can not have a judgement passed down to him without being served. Paying arrears blows that out of the water buddy. But you too dense to see that.
And if a woman goes in there and says LD is the daddy but the court can't find LD until years later and it turns out she happens to be right that you were the daddy GA will charge you support, not arrears, support for all the years they couldn't find you.
But you will continue to argue so fuck it. On with the thread.
Yes. There is no judgment. There is no order.
1999 - Melon walks in and says you're the father. They can't find you. She's not on assistance. Nothing happens.
2007 - They find you, you finally go to court, you get an order. The judge asks Melon if she wants backpay, she says yes. She gets it. The judgment was signed here. There was no running total.
Same as:
2007 - Melon after 8 years decides that she wants to put you on child support. They find you, they serve you, you go to court, you get an order. The judge asks Melon if she wants backpay, she says yes. She gets it.
And anyway, what we were talking about ORIGINALLY was them getting an order on you without you being served or present. They can't do that. Period. I mean I just work in this.
I hope you don't live in GA!
Cause if you do then you don't know your rights at all. All the court has to do in GA is ATTEMPT to serve you. Look it up. There is a lot of shit wrong with GA child support laws and that is one. A woman can walk into court and as long as she can prove you had a relationship with her and gives out identifying info then you can get stuck. Don't need to prove that it's the correct address or anything. Seen it happen but dude who it happened to was smart enough to petition and get it dropped when he found out.
Now you talking about back pay?
I never stated that the bolded was not correct. Not once. My original statement was "They cannot create an order without serving you". You disagreed and jumped in and said "It happened to my homeboy." I told you that it was impossible. Now you switched it to they can charge you with back support. DUH. Of course they can charge you back support. You're responsible. Even if you didn't know. Like I said, you changed what your point was. Read the thread. It's plain as day.
Do I need to explain this shit again? Here's more detail.
My homeboy knocked up a girl in 2004 and moved to Atlanta the same year.
Girl had his info and address in my hometown. Girl filed for child support and said he is the daddy. Dude didn't know shit about it.
Come 2008 he is home visiting for a week with his family. Girl finds out and goes to child support and say he is at this address and they send papers out to re-serve him.
He goes to court and he requests DNA test. Baby is his. Next court date he goes in and the judge tells him that since she filed for an original order in 2004 and that it turned out that he was in fact the father of the child that he was going to have to pay support from 2004 til 2008 as well as going forward. Not arrears he had to pay support and his support order was increased but split up some way to spread it out over the 14 years he had left to pay. This girl was not on welfare or peachcare or any assistance.
He said that he had no idea that they attempted to serve him and that nobody found him and the judge said that she had proven enough to the court to prove that he was in a relationship with the girl and that it was probable that he was the father. Now that the test confirmed it she was reinstating support from 2004.
The judge cited the law that allowed her to do it in GA. If I can ever get this nigga on the phone I will provide it to you. So you explain this to me and I will drop it.
