Not One 8th Grade Student From LeBron James' School Has Passed A Math Test Since 2020

[hardawayz16]

For the "Just give schools more money!" folks:

A recent report revealed that students from the 8th grade of the I Promise school have not passed the Ohio state math test in several years. One board member questioned how that could be possible, as it is highly unusual for children in their age group to have such poor results.

"Not one? In three years?... It is discouraging."

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[crazycac50]

So you think the problem is they have too much money. If we take funding away is that going to increase scores.

 

[hardawayz16]

So you think the problem is they have too much money. If we take funding away is that going to increase scores.

Yeah...no, I don't think too much money is the problem. I don't think money is the solution, unless you're using that money to pay kids as an incentive to learn..but thats a whole 'nother topic.

 

[hardawayz16]

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[hardawayz16]

Yall: Black celebrities need to do something for the community!

Black celeb: *does something*, *fails*

Yall: *crickets*

Yall: Black celebrities need to do something for the community!

Ain't no one gonna save us example #1003

 

[ballscout1]

I Promise Review: James's Experimental School Scores - That Shelf

Quibi documentary I Promise takes audiences inside LeBron James's experimental I Promose School in his hometown of Akron, Ohio.

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So the school opened in 2018, meaning any 8th-grade student scores they are using already had a bad foundation .

Not to mention the focus was on those most in need.

The article is based on bullshit incomplete metrics

Urban schools teach standardized tests that are used for funding

 

[ballscout1]

Yall: Black celebrities need to do something for the community!

Black celeb: *does something*, *fails*

Yall: *crickets*

Yall: Black celebrities need to do something for the community!

Ain't no one gonna save us example #1003

you and swammy said it failed so it has?

did it fail based on test scores ?

 

[hardawayz16]

I Promise Review: James's Experimental School Scores - That Shelf

Quibi documentary I Promise takes audiences inside LeBron James's experimental I Promose School in his hometown of Akron, Ohio.

thatshelf.com

So the school opened in 2018, meaning any 8th-grade student scores they are using already had a bad foundation .

Not to mention the focus was on those most in need.

The article is based on bullshit incomplete metrics

Urban schools teach standardized tests that are used for funding

Here you go with the excuses. The school board obviously had higher expectations:

"Board President Derrick Hall, who noted Monday's presentation was the first such overview he had seen on the school in his nearly four years on the board, said he was disappointed with the data, even with COVID-19 and a year of remote learning as known factors, given the plethora of additional resources at the school.

"For me as a board member, I just think about all the resources that we're providing," Hall said. "And I just, I'm just disappointed that I don't think, it doesn't appear like we're seeing the kind of change that we would expect to see.""

Promises kept? Akron school board questions I Promise School's poor test scores

At a meeting Monday, the Akron school board heard a presentation of the I Promise School's academics. One board member's reaction: "Disappointed."

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[Heavenlywings77]

So the first thing that should be done, is looking at the families and communities. The tools are there, idk what the budget is, so it's either failure on the teachers parts for not doing their jobs, or the parents not parenting adequately, or both.

 

[ballscout1]

Here you go with the excuses. The school board obviously had higher expectations:

"Board President Derrick Hall, who noted Monday's presentation was the first such overview he had seen on the school in his nearly four years on the board, said he was disappointed with the data, even with COVID-19 and a year of remote learning as known factors, given the plethora of additional resources at the school.

"For me as a board member, I just think about all the resources that we're providing," Hall said. "And I just, I'm just disappointed that I don't think, it doesn't appear like we're seeing the kind of change that we would expect to see.""

Promises kept? Akron school board questions I Promise School's poor test scores

At a meeting Monday, the Akron school board heard a presentation of the I Promise School's academics. One board member's reaction: "Disappointed."

news.yahoo.com

Excuses ?

More lk questioning the conclusions given to you .

Maybe the board wants to take control of the school ?

They did it with the Boys to Men Academy where every student qualified for college for multiple years since its opening.

And you sound like you have no kids, it you based success on standardized tests.

 

[pookie]

I refuse to believe not one student has passed a test since 2020,I could see if they said the majority hadn't but no way all of them have failed over and over and over again

 

[hardawayz16]

Excuses ?

More lk questioning the conclusions given to you .

Maybe the board wants to take control of the school ?

They did it with the Boys to Men Academy where every student qualified for college for multiple years since its opening.

And you sound like you have no kids, it you based success on standardized tests.

"The school receives the same local, state and federal funding as any other public school. But on top of that, the foundation has given up to $1.4 million each year for additional tutors and more teachers in younger grades to lower class sizes.

The foundation also partners with other organizations to provide significant wraparound services and support for students, from job training and high school equivalency courses for parents to housing for students' entire families if needed."

If you're getting all that and after 5 years still can't get these kids doing math at grade level maybe the board should be stepping in?

And my kids are currently doing math and reading ABOVE their grade level, so....yeah.

 

[bgbtylvr]

Disaster! What a…! What a nasty thing to say. So nasty! That’s why don’t take a knee! He took a knee, folks. You know, i outta go over there and—well, I’d need security and the whole deal, and it’s a BIG deal, let me tell ya! Vvvvery BIG! But I don’t like the idea of a black school. All black, even at night time. Harrible. Not even…:white walls! I mean when you think about it, and, nobody does more thinking than me. I’m the biggest thinker. People say, “That Trump. He’s always, always thinking. I believe, and I could be wrong, but they call it a “THINK TANK.” for really smart people.

 

[ballscout1]

How about we look at the scores for the 2026 8th-grade students who would have gotten their foundations in this school

And the actual number is 28% passed compared with 44% of all Akron schools.

So does that also mean that no Akron school passed a math test ?

So the first thing that should be done, is looking at the families and communities. The tools are there, idk what the budget is, so it's either failure on the teachers parts for not doing their jobs, or the parents not parenting adequately, or both.

The environment and parenting obviously play a part since also part of the I Promise school and foundation offers education and skills training to the parents of these students.

Budgets are also misleading unless what the money is spent on is known.

 

[ballscout1]

"The school receives the same local, state and federal funding as any other public school. But on top of that, the foundation has given up to $1.4 million each year for additional tutors and more teachers in younger grades to lower class sizes.

The foundation also partners with other organizations to provide significant wraparound services and support for students, from job training and high school equivalency courses for parents to housing for students' entire families if needed."

If you're getting all that and after 5 years still can't get these kids doing math at grade level maybe the board should be stepping in?

And my kids are currently doing math and reading ABOVE their grade level, so....yeah.

so 5 years is enough to turn around al the issues and baggage ?

if the foundation of your home is damaged spend what you want on paint and furniture but until the foundation is fixed your home is still fucked.

you are judging based on test scores but what is your method of evaluating improvement in those 5 years....

is the home structure better? Are their situations improved ?

and again only 44% of Akron is at grande level so the board you relying on ain't doing shit

 

[hardawayz16]

so 5 years is enough to turn around al the issues and baggage ?

Well....that was the goal of the school

"Students come into the school an average of two years behind, so it's not surprising that in early years, students wouldn't be able to make up that much ground in just a year or two. The goal of the school was to have students grow about a year and third each school year, so by eighth grade, they would be caught up and ready for high school."

I'm not calling for a board takeover but let's be real...these kids are getting the "resources" yall said are key to education and the results so far have been disappointing.

If nothing can be done to get past the baggage then our lower classes are doomed.

 

[SmoothD]

 

[ballscout1]

Well....that was the goal of the school

"Students come into the school an average of two years behind, so it's not surprising that in early years, students wouldn't be able to make up that much ground in just a year or two. The goal of the school was to have students grow about a year and third each school year, so by eighth grade, they would be caught up and ready for high school."

I'm not calling for a board takeover but let's be real...these kids are getting the "resources" yall said are key to education and the results so far have been disappointing.

If nothing can be done to get past the baggage then our lower classes are doomed.

The lower classes aren't doomed because they would have been there during the formative years.

The bolded is pie in the sky rationale.

Let me give you an example.

For everyday a patient is bed-ridden in the hospital, it takes 3 days of rehab just to get back to their physical level before they entered the hospital.. That isn't 3 for-1 improvement. It is 3-1 just to get back to the baseline.

To think that all the problems the student entered with are reversed that quickly is dumb and unreasonable. especially since those things needing reversal are part of their foundation. The things developed to help create a successful student are built in pre-k onward. So for these kids over half of their academic lives were corrupt when they entered this school.

And the reversal has to happen in more than just the classroom.

And you won't get that teaching to a standardized test

And the title is still wrong......28% are where expected in math compared to 44% of the rest of Akron schools.
The rest of Akron schools aren't preparing 56% of their students for HS...

 

[D24OHA]

The headline is interesting..... I really want to look into this.

 

[Jumbodicc]

I don't like the reporting on this. Is this the standardized test for the state of Ohio? How does this school score compared to others just like it? What are the math scores for Ohio compared to other states in the country?

 

[hardawayz16]

The lower classes aren't doomed because they would have been there during the formative years.

The bolded is pie in the sky rationale.

To think that all the problems the student entered with are reversed that quickly is dumb and unreasonable. especially since those things needing reversal are part of their foundation. The things developed to help create a successful student are built in pre-k onward. So for these kids over half of their academic lives were corrupt when they entered this school.

And the reversal has to happen in more than just the classroom.

It's dumb and unreasonable to aim to get kids to grade level in 5 years with a state of the art campus, smaller classrooms, and extra tutors among other things? Ok....but thats been the kneejerk consensus for years anytime we saw black underachievement in education.

Now that it's being tried, and not working, now what? Do we just accept that a large percentage of lower class urban black people will not meet standards in education, no matter what resources you give them?

 

[TooTrilla]

Thats they dumb ass fault. I went to trash ass Milwaukee Public schools where most of us past all those easy ass tests. His school must be for retards.

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Yeah...no, I don't think too much money is the problem. I don't think money is the solution, unless you're using that money to pay kids as an incentive to learn..but thats a whole 'nother topic.

What solutions do you suggest?

Is that Common Core that the Indian student is doing?

 

[ballscout1]

It's dumb and unreasonable to aim to get kids to grade level in 5 years with a state of the art campus, smaller classrooms, and extra tutors among other things? Ok....but thats been the kneejerk consensus for years anytime we saw black underachievement in education.

Now that it's being tried, and not working, now what? Do we just accept that a large percentage of lower class urban black people will not meet standards in education, no matter what resources you give them?

You sound like the mofokrs who agree with Clarence Thomas and SCOTUS with their last rulings on college admissions
You are arguing a flawed conclusion from incomplete background information based on an article with a clickbait article..

because of that you are boring me, so off I go to watch grass grow


<thinking> this mofokr called one building a state of the art campus>

 

[^SpiderMan^]

It is not a fair comparison. I Promise took the lowest performing students in the district. A more accurate comparison would be to compare their test scores to the historical average of the lowest performing 3rd graders at 8th grade. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the lowest performing 3rd graders in Akron either dropped out or failed a few grades.

 

[SmoothD]

The US school curriculum has been outdated for 50 years.
Worksheets and projects on particle board aren't teaching kids.
Until we change the way we teach students, the US will always be behind.
Especially inner city schools.

 

[clitsational]

that i promise documentary was one of the most depressing things i have ever seen

no way we can fix any of our problems working hand in hand with the cacs that caused them

him and jalen maybe their hearts are in the right place but the methodology is never going to work

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[4 Dimensional]

The US school curriculum has been outdated for 50 years.
Worksheets and projects on particle board aren't teaching kids.
Until we change the way we teach students, the US will always be behind.
Especially inner city schools.

Education in the US is a production line now of days. It’s going to get worse. It’s not changing.

 

[hardawayz16]

What solutions do you suggest?

Pay these kids for good grades and see how they do in 5 years

 

[hardawayz16]

It is not a fair comparison. I Promise took the lowest performing students in the district. A more accurate comparison would be to compare their test scores to the historical average of the lowest performing 3rd graders at 8th grade. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the lowest performing 3rd graders in Akron either dropped out or failed a few grades.

Yes its imperfect but if this school with added re$ource$ is resulting in 20% lower test scores that the average for the rest of the district I'm not optimistic.

 

[yaBoi]

The US school curriculum has been outdated for 50 years.
Worksheets and projects on particle board aren't teaching kids.
Until we change the way we teach students, the US will always be behind.
Especially inner city schools.

This

 

[hardawayz16]

Education in the US is a production line now of days. It’s going to get worse. It’s not changing.

What's different in US education from Europe and Asia, from an educator's perspective? What can be done differently inside the classroom?

 

[SmoothD]

What's different in US education from Europe and Asia, from an educator's perspective? What can be done differently inside the classroom?

I'm not a teacher, but I'll say the 2 subjects we need to place more emphasis on are math and science.
The English language is a close 2nd.

 

[4 Dimensional]

What's different in US education from Europe and Asia, from an educator's perspective? What can be done differently inside the classroom?

We relied too much on technology. Retention of material and critical thinking has declined. The best education has become resource based and the best teachers need to make a living instead of teaching out of love.

Then we need to cut out unnecessary courses and reduce hours in the classroom. In 2023, seven hours a day for five days a week is overkill.

Also, the culture of US-based education is severely tainted. There are many people that doesn’t see the value in it anymore.

Most people in the world speaks two languages. Here, Americans speaks one and some can’t even read it.

 

[4 Dimensional]

I'm not a teacher, but I'll say the 2 subjects we need to place more emphasis on are math and science.
The English language is a close 2nd.

English, Math, and some science.