majestic_05 said:
Fuckouttahere. Anyway the shit wasn't banned when he took it.
Next time you hear a cracker shitting on Bonds ask him this.
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Fuckouttahere. Anyway the shit wasn't banned when he took it.
RoadRage said:They got this sight that sells Bonds is a cheater shirts.
I emailed the sight and asked them for a shirt saying Lance Armstrong cheated!
Need I mention I am yet to get a reply back
Fuck lance.....
AN THIS IS A DAMN GOOD FIGHT FOR STEPHEN!!!. I LIKE THIS DUDE!
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?context=podcast&id=2964677
Damn. I've seen Stephen's show on ESPN in the past, but I've never heard him like this. Gawddamn!
Mickey Spillane
Banned
I dont like bonds and all that showing the hell off shit when he hits a homerun. Asshole is an asshole. He needs to run the bases not walk halfway before running. But Ill admit dude neva failed a test, but so hasnt Lance Armstrong and we know he cheated.
Pussy Krook said:
This is what i say every time someone says he cheated. You can't cheat if its not against the rules. They are all full of bs.
Damnnnnnnnn!!! Stephen A. Smith shut shit the fuck down!!!Legacyns said:
alexw said:
co-sign.
Another bastard that juiced: Eric Gagne
He cheated, and I'm a Dodger fan
JD Walker said:
No one needs to point the ROID finger. Bonds admitted to "unknowingly" (yeah...right) using steriods (the clear and the cream) to the grand jury. He claims he thought it was Flaxseed oil.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1937594
If you believe Bonds didn't know the was taking the "cream" and the "clear", then I have a few bridges to sell you.
Last, I have trained with weights since I was 15 years old so I know what is natural body growth and what is growth via chemicals. Do yourself a favor and Learn a little bit more before you assume I know nothing about weight training.
DWBass said:
First, calm the fuck down. Second, I dont care if you are/were a pro athlete or not. You being an ex-pro player has nothing to do with the conversation. Anyway, the internet is a wonderful place. Anyone can be an "Ex-Pro" if they really want to.
Like I said before, i dont care if barry cheated or not. He, along with McGuire, Soca, raised attention towards MLB when the nation really didnt care. No one was complaining then, so why complain now.
Now if you want to debate what I said, lets talk. You saying Bonds had integrity for admitting to something he never tested positive for. Are you fucking kidding? He admitted this to a grand jury so he had to admit the truth. At the time the whole Balco thing was blowing up. Bonds didnt know if his ex trainer was going to flip on him. He also didnt know the how much the authorities knew about his involvement with balco. If bonds would have lied the grand jury about the chemicals he used he would have been taking a very big chance of being charged with perjury. So Bonds admissions were not due to integrity, it was more like not wanting to go to jail.
I am not taking anything away from Bond's talent. IMO, he is the best all around player I ever saw. he was the best all around player before he was taking the roids. He was so much better then everyone else, I am not surprised he is still playing into his 40's.
It doesnt matter if everyone else was doing roids...its still cheating. If you were taking a final exam and everyone copied each others answers, is it not cheating because everyone did it? But then I guess if you arent cheating, then you arent trying.
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PhillyTheKid said:No one needs to point the ROID finger. Bonds admitted to "unknowingly" (yeah...right) using steriods (the clear and the cream) to the grand jury. He claims he thought it was Flaxseed oil.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1937594
If you believe Bonds didn't know the was taking the "cream" and the "clear", then I have a few bridges to sell you.
Last, I have trained with weights since I was 15 years old so I know what is natural body growth and what is growth via chemicals. Do yourself a favor and Learn a little bit more before you assume I know nothing about weight training.
But that's not the issue. The issue is MLB DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!!
No one cares if you think he cheated or not. You don't own baseball, MLB does. And when all this shyt was going down, they chose not to enforce a policy on steroids & similar performance enhancers.
So people can get mad & call Bonds a cheater, etc. The bottom line is MLB didn't care when the shyt went down.
Verdict: IT'S ALL GOOD...
NOW DANCE ON DEM HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ming Fei Hong said:Damnnnnnnnn!!! Stephen A. Smith shut shit the fuck down!!!
He been droppin dat ether lately..
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/podcast/archive?id=2426578
Co-sicily!!!Legacyns said:Bottom line is everyone can shut the fuck up.
MLB didn't care 5, 10, 15 years ago
Sports media didn't care 5, 10, 15 years ago
Fans didn't care 5, 10, 15 years ago
Now, everyone talking about the purity of the game.
FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!
MLB is the ONLY standard that matters. They own the game. If they didn't test for steroids & similar performance enhancing drugs it's because they didn't care about the impact it had on the game.
Verdict: It's all good because MLB allowed it. Barry Bonds is the HR king period, no asterisk.
Now dance on dem haters...
If Bud Selig or anyone else REALLY cared, then they would've implemented testing for steroids years ago. Well said killa.
Ask them why do over 130 of Ruth's homers count when MLB rules label them as ground rule doubles.
I always wondered:
#1 where's the roid rage?
#2 why hasn't he failed a test?
#3 if he is now off the juice why didn't he lose weight like giambi and garciaparra did?
#4 why is he still hitting homers if he is off the juice?
#5 why can't anyone do what barry is doing when they use steroids?
MLB knows the 'enhanced player' era was the best thing to happen to their sport. It was all good when Mac was doing it. I remember white folks saying Sosa was a fluke at the same time.
MLB also knows they aren't trying to test any of their bigger stars. They are only nabbing low-rate players and farm system players who are having absolutely no impact on the game.
#1 where's the roid rage?
#2 why hasn't he failed a test?
#3 if he is now off the juice why didn't he lose weight like giambi and garciaparra did?
#4 why is he still hitting homers if he is off the juice?
#5 why can't anyone do what barry is doing when they use steroids?
MLB knows the 'enhanced player' era was the best thing to happen to their sport. It was all good when Mac was doing it. I remember white folks saying Sosa was a fluke at the same time.
MLB also knows they aren't trying to test any of their bigger stars. They are only nabbing low-rate players and farm system players who are having absolutely no impact on the game.
Exactly, Bonds is 43 with 23 homers in only 250 at bats, you gotta remember, people are still walking him like bitches. If he had the same amount of at-bats as A-rod, he'd have almost 45 homers.
Why do you think just the crackas are mad ? There is a lot of black people heated over the shit too. Balco Barry will go down in history as the roid head HR king and nothing more, good thing about is Griffey jr, and Arod have decent chances of breaking any record he sets.
And that BS about ATT park being one of the hardest fields to hit hr's is false you better check your facts RR.
Dimensions 339L, 364LC, 399C, 421RC, 309R
309 to right field ??? My sister could hit a HR there !!! That field was designed for him to hit HR's there.
Candlestick or 3Com park
330-L, 420-C, 330-R, 335-L, 400-C,
The porch was shortened just for him !!!
You cant defend the fact that he is under scrutiny by using any Maguire, Sosa, Canseco or any MLB player for that matter to say that he wasnt the only one when the fact is they are all wrong !!!
And that BS about ATT park being one of the hardest fields to hit hr's is false you better check your facts RR.
Dimensions 339L, 364LC, 399C, 421RC, 309R
309 to right field ??? My sister could hit a HR there !!! That field was designed for him to hit HR's there.
Candlestick or 3Com park
330-L, 420-C, 330-R, 335-L, 400-C,
The porch was shortened just for him !!!
You cant defend the fact that he is under scrutiny by using any Maguire, Sosa, Canseco or any MLB player for that matter to say that he wasnt the only one when the fact is they are all wrong !!!
djrayray said:
Then tell me my "Brother", why there are only 45 homers to hit McCovey Cove and Bonds has 70% of them?
I agree with all of this.
Similar to #5, I've always wondered why steroids ONLY work for Barry Bonds?!
This witch hunt is ridiculous! I personally feel they should have dropped this whole issue after they came up with notta. From that point on the MLB should just start testing harder. But to drag this on for so long and put him through all of this scrutiny is what takes away from the game. Hell, I'm no bodybuilder, but even my head has gotten bigger over the years.
Me in 1987
1997 2007
Similar to #5, I've always wondered why steroids ONLY work for Barry Bonds?!
This witch hunt is ridiculous! I personally feel they should have dropped this whole issue after they came up with notta. From that point on the MLB should just start testing harder. But to drag this on for so long and put him through all of this scrutiny is what takes away from the game. Hell, I'm no bodybuilder, but even my head has gotten bigger over the years.
Me in 1987
1997 2007 Kratos said:I always wondered:
#1 where's the roid rage?
#2 why hasn't he failed a test?
#3 if he is now off the juice why didn't he lose weight like giambi and garciaparra did?
#4 why is he still hitting homers if he is off the juice?
#5 why can't anyone do what barry is doing when they use steroids?
MLB knows the 'enhanced player' era was the best thing to happen to their sport. It was all good when Mac was doing it. I remember white folks saying Sosa was a fluke at the same time.
MLB also knows they aren't trying to test any of their bigger stars. They are only nabbing low-rate players and farm system players who are having absolutely no impact on the game.
JD Walker said:
LOL Funny. When your head grows and your show size grow 2 1/2 after the age of 21 you have to raise questions.
These ofays are slimy. They never played fair when it comes to race but want blacks to play "by the rules". Stephen Smith shut em down.
Everyone is questioning what's going in baseball simple for these simple reasons:
- Records that stood untouched for decades are suddenly coming down one after another in a very short period.
- Too many atheletes who production numbers were starting to hit their natural athletic decline in their late-30's and hitting retirement age, are suddenly producing numbers they did in their late-20's and 30's, which is completely unnatural.
Bonds is not the only one - but he's being focused on because he took down a record that was previously thought to be untouchable.
- Baseball has a weird sort of mythological pathos here in America. It's supposed to be America's pure sport. Now we expect certain kinds of cheating - pine tar, doctoring the ball, corked bats - it's almost like part of the lore of the game ... but steriods is a big no-no and completely taboo.
Most black people don't understand, because most black people can give a fuck less about baseball. We have basketball and the lifestyle/culture that goes with it. We have football.
We let the whites worry about Hockey, Baseball, and Golf.
- Records that stood untouched for decades are suddenly coming down one after another in a very short period.
- Too many atheletes who production numbers were starting to hit their natural athletic decline in their late-30's and hitting retirement age, are suddenly producing numbers they did in their late-20's and 30's, which is completely unnatural.
Bonds is not the only one - but he's being focused on because he took down a record that was previously thought to be untouchable.
- Baseball has a weird sort of mythological pathos here in America. It's supposed to be America's pure sport. Now we expect certain kinds of cheating - pine tar, doctoring the ball, corked bats - it's almost like part of the lore of the game ... but steriods is a big no-no and completely taboo.
Most black people don't understand, because most black people can give a fuck less about baseball. We have basketball and the lifestyle/culture that goes with it. We have football.
We let the whites worry about Hockey, Baseball, and Golf.
if you're upset about bonds, don't waste too much of your energy...
cause guess who's next?
this cat right here:
on espn radio today, they're already saying that BEFORE he approaches jack nicklaus' record of 18 major wins, they should BEGIN STEROID TESTING IN GOLF.
these white folks are pissed.
and when tiger gets closer, they're gonna fuck with him too. trust.
cause guess who's next?
this cat right here:
on espn radio today, they're already saying that BEFORE he approaches jack nicklaus' record of 18 major wins, they should BEGIN STEROID TESTING IN GOLF.
these white folks are pissed.
and when tiger gets closer, they're gonna fuck with him too. trust.
Heist said:
But Heist, you have to realize that back in those days, the players often had other jobs. They didn't work out year round like present day athletes. Most had to focus on working on the farm, or being an insurance salesman during the off season. It's evolution, just like a lot of the world of track and field records. If you would have told someone back in 1920 that we will have a sub 10 second 100 meter sprinter, they would have look at you like
I do agree with your "mythological pathos" that America have with baseball. It's like the old commercial Baseball, Hotdogs, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet