New Trailer: Napoleon (Apple+) starring Joaquin Phoenix UPDATE: No 4 hour cut
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‘Napoleon’ Trailer: Joaquin Phoenix and Ridley Scott Reunite for Action Epic
Scott and Phoenix return in this first look at Sony's historical epic about the French Revolutionary Wars commander.
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First Day. I wouldn't be surprised if Joaquin Phoenix gets his 2nd Oscar for this.
I did not realize this.
He did a modern version of the story of Moses and it was lily-white and (with respect to our atheist members) very biblically inaccurate. He also had the Sphinx remade with Eurocentric facial features.
He didn't even use Arabs, keep in mind a mini-series about King Tut featured a multicultural Ancient Egypt with Arabs, whites and Black Egyptians. Scott's version of Ancient Egypt might as well be an episode of The Crown set in the desert.
Also, I am curious as to they'll handle the Haitian Revolution because I'm getting the sense that some internet historians are trying to dismiss or minimize the Haitian Revolution. That Revolution was a major victory and an amazing feat of determination and was consequential for multiple nations. Hell, as a resident of New Orleans, if that revolution doesn't happen, me and Playahatian might be typing to each other in Haitian Kreyol and Kouri Vini.
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Bro...
Your last post made me start a damn group text.
I REALLY hope and pray Scott is not that stupid as to try to downplay or ignore the Haitian Revolution in all this.
I don't think Apple is that oblivious.
Especially since Haiti was supposedly represented in that last Will Smith movie.
We need to watch this closely.
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My decision to destroy the authority of the Blacks in Saint Domingue is not so much based on considerations of commerce and money,” Napoleon wrote, “as on the need to block forever the forward march of Blacks in the world.” In 1801, Napoleon sent an army of 50,000 to Haiti to restore French rule.Oct 1, 2019
progressive.org
We’ve Never Forgiven Haiti for Being Black
American public policy surrounding Haiti still contributes to ongoing misery there today—including conditions that have erupted in protests in recent weeks.
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"Napoleon, the dark side" > Napoleon and Santo Domingo (Haïti and Santo Domingo) (< 4 min. read) - napoleon.org
An island essential to the economy of Europe At the end of the Ancien Régime, Santo Domingo was divided into two parts: the present-day Haiti (belonging to France) and the present-day Dominican Republic (belonging to Spain). The French part was reputed to be the richest colony in the world. In...
www.napoleon.org
Thomas Jefferson: The Private War: Ignoring the Revolution Next Door
Exactly 200 years ago, the western hemisphere's second republic was created. However, there were no congratulatory salutes from the first, the United States of America. The new republic, Haiti, had...
Haitian Revolution | Causes, Summary, & Facts
Haitian Revolution (1791–1804), series of conflicts between Haitian slaves, colonists, the armies of the British and French colonizers, and a number of other parties. Through the struggle, the Haitian people ultimately won independence from France and thereby became the first country to be...
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Haiti - Slavery, Revolution, Independence
Haiti - Haiti - Slavery, Revolution, Independence: The revolution was actually a series of conflicts during the period 1791–1804 that involved shifting alliances of Haitian slaves, affranchis, mulattoes, and colonists, as well as British and French army troops. Several factors precipitated the...
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The Root of Haiti’s Misery: Reparations to Enslavers (Published 2022)
In 1791, enslaved Haitians ousted the French and founded a nation. But France made generations of Haitians pay for their freedom. How much it cost them was a mystery, until now.
Remembering that Napoleon reinstated slavery – DW – 05/04/2021
As France marks the bicentenary of the death of Napoleon Bonaparte on May 5, his role in reinstating slavery after it was abolished prompts a renewed look at his legacy.
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There's a youtube channel that I typically love to watch called "Alternate History Hub" and while Cody Franklin is a conservative, I generally respect the effort he puts into his content but his video about "What if the Haitian Revolution Failed" was rather dismissive.
While his points about most of the Louisiana Territory being mostly empty grassland and the United States probably only wanting to buy New Orleans and Manifest Destiny eventually causing the US to expand west is true but his points about an Alternate Saint-Dominque being "less poor" than real life Haiti seemed rather short-sighted. I'm pretty sure that if Saint-Domingue was an overseas department like Martinique but with more wealth, it would be essentially the Monaco of the Caribbean, hell the French called it "The Jewel of the Antilles" and the island in its current state extremely valuable. He also didn't take into account whether or not the Directory would have abolished or maintained slavery in the French Caribbean and French Louisiana had Napoleon not overthrown them.
He seemingly breezed through the event and framed is being less consequential than it actually was, when even an unpapered historian can point out multiple threads on this incident had going backwards and forwards in time.
While his points about most of the Louisiana Territory being mostly empty grassland and the United States probably only wanting to buy New Orleans and Manifest Destiny eventually causing the US to expand west is true but his points about an Alternate Saint-Dominque being "less poor" than real life Haiti seemed rather short-sighted. I'm pretty sure that if Saint-Domingue was an overseas department like Martinique but with more wealth, it would be essentially the Monaco of the Caribbean, hell the French called it "The Jewel of the Antilles" and the island in its current state extremely valuable. He also didn't take into account whether or not the Directory would have abolished or maintained slavery in the French Caribbean and French Louisiana had Napoleon not overthrown them.
He seemingly breezed through the event and framed is being less consequential than it actually was, when even an unpapered historian can point out multiple threads on this incident had going backwards and forwards in time.
The trailer showed a quick clip of him at the Sphinx.
So far it looks like the film will tap into how much of an asshole he was. I doubt the film will go into detail cuz of time, it looks to be more of his rise to power.
Oh well f*ck him.
Can you believe in 2023 we STILL don't have the definitive Haitian Revolution movie???!!!
Especially after a few years ago studios were throwing money at any black property post george Floyd protests?
We need one, I know there was a French Language one done years ago that I wanted to get my hands on with Jimmy Jean-Louis as Toussaint Louverture but in the age of streaming services where we can get movies made about the creator of Tetris (which was good) we get something much more important and impactful such as a movie or limited series about the Haitian Revolution.
^^^^
Kaboom
It's a no brainer. Award winner.
Now unfortunately I can't think of who I want to direct it.
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas
General in Napoleon’s Army
Dumas, who was also the father of the famed author, Alexandre Dumas, was the only four-star general of an all-white army before Colin Powell.
General in Napoleon’s Army
France's first black general once fought a cavalry squadron by himself — and emerged unscathed
Dumas, who was also the father of the famed author, Alexandre Dumas, was the only four-star general of an all-white army before Colin Powell.
France's first black general once fought a cavalry squadron by himself
For his actions, Napoleon Bonaparte dubbed him the "Horatius Cocles of the Tyrol."
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General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas.
11/22
Gladiator was fake bullshit.
Ridley Scott’s ‘Napoleon' Gets Theatrical Release
The historical drama starring Joaquin Phoenix will also premiere on Apple TV+.
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