NEW R. Kelly tape turned into Chicago cops

Do Kelly have all the masters to his songs.

Just curious cause we been knew what he was, just wondering what happen now that making these people go in fully cocked.
 
I mean plenty of cases have been won because the Victim failed to corporate...

Dude was straight up on a video peeing on the chick.

There was a witness that stated that she was in a Three way relationship with her, R. Kelly and the victim and this woman said she was 17 at the time and the other girl was a minor...

R. Kelly looked at the Camera... He spoke on the tape..

He had the same mole of the dude in the tape..

R.Kelly's attorney never put out anything to say that the Tape wasn't taken inside R Kelly's house...

R. Kelly never took the stand..

And with all of that... the Jury still found the Dude not guilty...

I do think that the METOO shit changes things.. but unless the victim says she is going to testify in a court....

None of this means anything..


and again...

I want to point out...

This nigga is guilty as sin and I use to know the dude.. He is the only Celebrity that I can say that about.. Which fucking SUCKS ASS...

I agree but the issue if I recall correctly is that the prosecution couldn't definitely establish a date/time of when the tape was made so the defense exploited it.

It was thin and we all know he's guilty but it was enough.

If they do decide to go after him again they have the benefit of knowing how he skated the first time and avoid those when prosecuting him.

Essentially what prosecutors did when they went against Cosby in that second trial.
 
R. Kelly Might Be Indicted Based on New 45-Minute Sex Tape
By Hunter Harris@hunteryharris
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R. Kelly might soon be indicted in Illinois, based on a video showing the singer sexually assaulting an underage girl, according to The New Yorker. In a report from Jim DeRogatis, a senior law-enforcement official and two other sources said the video shows Kelly. After being contacted by The New Yorker, attorney Michael Avenatti tweeted a statement saying that he has given Cook County state’s attorney Kim Foxx a 45-minute tape showing “Kelly engaging in multiple sexual assaults of a girl underage.”

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In 2002, Kelly was indicted on 21 counts of child pornography related to a separate 26-minute tape, which appeared to show Kelly sexually assaulting a 14-year-old-girl. He was acquitted in 2008. Since the early 1990s, Kelly has been accused of sexual abuse and predatory behavior. In 2017, BuzzFeed ran a report from DeRogatis with allegations that the singer was running an abusive sex cult in Atlanta and Chicago. The Lifetime special Surviving R. Kelly renewed criticism of the star, and he is currently being investigated in Atlanta and Chicago, with another accuser reportedly meeting with officials in New York City.

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Kelly’s attorney Steve Greenberg told CNN that he didn’t know about the new tape. “We are unaware of any new information involving Mr. Kelly,” he said. “We have not been contacted by anyone. We have not been informed about any new information by anyone and we have not been contacted by law enforcement.” In February, Greenberg told the Associated Press that his client “never knowingly had sex with an underage woman, he never forced anyone to do anything, he never held anyone captive, he never abused anyone.”
 
I think Aaliyah family owns ALL his masters

Nah I would be shocked if his record company didn't secure ownership of his masters when he initially was signed.

They usually fucked them out of their masters while they're broke and don't know their value.

Also I believe he actually admitted he signed away his publishing rights early in his career since he can barely read and didn't know what he was signing.
 
Nah I would be shocked if his record company didn't secure ownership of his masters when he initially was signed.

They usually fucked them out of their masters while they're broke and don't know their value.

Also I believe he actually admitted he signed away his publishing rights early in his career since he can barely read and didn't know what he was signing.

Yea bro

The most recent discovery I found out was that Aaliyah’s family owns his masters and publishing because Aaliyah’s uncle was our Kelly’s first manager into the business and the uncle is the one who introduced R. Kelly to Aaliyah so him giving her family the Masters is a way of shutting them up.
 
I mean........

How is this any different from the last tape that clearly showed him urinating on a girl that was clearly underage in a sauna that I can confirm was inside his old house, because I've seen it with my own two eyes....

If that nigga could get acquitted by a Jury after seeing the last 27 minute under-age sex tape where he was urinating on a girl that called him daddy...

Why does anyone think this is going to be any different.

Exactly. After seeing the first tape along with the rest of the world showing the log cabin from his music video and this fool walked :smh::smh: There will be no girl coming forwards it will probably play out the same way as before if it gets any play at all. It's sad but :money::money: talks.
 
Nah I would be shocked if his record company didn't secure ownership of his masters when he initially was signed.

They usually fucked them out of their masters while they're broke and don't know their value.

Also I believe he actually admitted he signed away his publishing rights early in his career since he can barely read and didn't know what he was signing.

The Houghton Family owns them. Barry Hankerson brokered that deal.
 
You gotta watch your kids mane.....

R Kelly is a victim in all of this as well, it's just that his sister was never delt with. It's possible his sister was sexually abused and therefore did it to her younger brothers as a form of redemption. Who knows how far back all this goes in this nigga's family/neighborhood?

He never grew beyond that world of child sexual activity because by the time he was old enough to do to others what had been done to him, he had the freedom and access as an adolescent/grown entertainer to continue this activity with little resistance.
 
I don't know Peeps.

You all know from my previous posts on Kelly, that I've never gave any support towards that dude in the slightest.

But this "move" from Avenatti comes off as another White Liberal Move to use the Black Male Sexual Pervert trope to advance himself or whatever issues he may want publicly ignored.

Avenatti already lost public points following his own domestic violence allegations last year. This, after months of crusading against Trump. And that issue was just the tip for him.

Again,
I could care less about Kelly.
But Avenatti's "interest" in this doesn't feel genuine.
Leaves me suspicious of his motives.
 
I mean plenty of cases have been won because the Victim failed to corporate...

Dude was straight up on a video peeing on the chick.

There was a witness that stated that she was in a Three way relationship with her, R. Kelly and the victim and this woman said she was 17 at the time and the other girl was a minor...

R. Kelly looked at the Camera... He spoke on the tape..

He had the same mole of the dude in the tape..

R.Kelly's attorney never put out anything to say that the Tape wasn't taken inside R Kelly's house...

R. Kelly never took the stand..

And with all of that... the Jury still found the Dude not guilty...

I do think that the METOO shit changes things.. but unless the victim says she is going to testify in a court....

None of this means anything..


and again...

I want to point out...

This nigga is guilty as sin and I use to know the dude.. He is the only Celebrity that I can say that about.. Which fucking SUCKS ASS...
I remember when that case first came out. That girl stole the tape from R. Kelly and gave it to some dude that was either a friend of hers or was trying to be her pimp. But he was extorting money out of R. Kelly. Even after getting paid he kept wanting more and more money until R. Kelly said fuck that and then the dude made good on his threat and put the footage online.
Why this has came up again I do not know. It was strange with that video clip of that white minister praying for him. Then again it was strange to me seeing a white devil laying hands on a black. Something strange is going on and we might be seeing illusions instead of what is really happening. Let us see what white people are really doing.
 
Is there not a statue of limitation when they can come after him type thing? Also can he be tried again for he same crime if he as ruled not guilty? This nigga Kelly :smh: ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the bad GROWN ASS bitches in the world that wanna fuck him and he likes kids. This lil young girl tried to holla a t me in the gym, I said do you have any idea how old I am? She said 35. :roflmao2: I wish :rolleyes2: I said Im so old my birth certificate was hand written and says Negro for race, she started laughing. I said aight then, latr. She was in late 20s.
 
Some of you niggas too obsessed with what goes on in jailhouses.


I take it you don't know what happens to Pedo's in prison let alone a famous rich one no love from the CO's or Inmates someone will kill him for reputation or extort him he is done if he gets locked up, The CO's might toss him in a cell with a known booty bandit just to get some laughs out of it
 
I agree that the first tape should have got him, but remember, that chick in the tape did a Shaggy and said wasn't me. If a victim denies being a victim. If this tape is legit, hopefully it won't happen this time. ...now if her non-musician father gets bass player credits on a R. Kelly record.....



There was no need for a second tape should've locked his as s up the first time
 
You gotta watch your kids mane.....

R Kelly is a victim in all of this as well, it's just that his sister was never delt with. It's possible his sister was sexually abused and therefore did it to her younger brothers as a form of redemption. Who knows how far back all this goes in this nigga's family/neighborhood?

He never grew beyond that world of child sexual activity because by the time he was old enough to do to others what had been done to him, he had the freedom and access as an adolescent/grown entertainer to continue this activity with little resistance.
Pretty well stated. But he is a male. It may sound strange but whites that rule know more about black peoples original way of life than most blacks do. They have created artificial minds in the masses. I am not trying to take up for him but Dr. King was really waking up to some things and he was planting seeds that caused him his life. We actually had love and admiration for each other from his speaking and we was calling each other brothers and sisters as though we recognized each other as a black family. And it is true that at one time in history it was only blacks on the face of the earth. And society was more modern then than it is now. Also there was no such thing as incest because we was all one black family. Whites had nothing to do with the Garden Of Eden.
Jonestown was an example of how they learned to recognize people who's minds were turned out and those who still had knowledge of self. Dr. King caught on later during the civil rights struggle and instead of him steady trying to hid it it showed in how the masses were turning out. A person who's mind is turned out will do his master's bidding without knowing it. When they killed Dr. King the spirit of true love began to lose it's power and instead of love and admiration for each other the drugs and programming was turning us right back into creations of whites and split us back up.
We do not want to go back to a time when whites would rape our women and children right in our face and we better not even get mad about it. That was witnessed on the boat over here and on the plantations. I just think something is going on right now. Some of the things did to Bill Cosby was actually illegal according to white law.
Lavena Johnson family never got no justice. We watched whites shoot up schools and even watched one kill 9 people in a church point blank and one shot up a movie theater and get taken to jail safely. In fact they took one of them to eat first. Yet they will try to make an unarmed black getting killed as though it is a blessing of God. And even reward the killer in our face. And also this is a time when they are trying to feminize the black male all over again. The press has lied about other countries in our face and make it seem as though we are fighting terrorism when we know for a fact that they are the real terrorist.
R. Kelly may be wrong but show us what the fuck whites are doing. Let us see who is the real monsters are.
 
Yea bro

The most recent discovery I found out was that Aaliyah’s family owns his masters and publishing because Aaliyah’s uncle was our Kelly’s first manager into the business and the uncle is the one who introduced R. Kelly to Aaliyah so him giving her family the Masters is a way of shutting them up.

The Houghton Family owns them. Barry Hankerson brokered that deal.

Damn didn't know that, good for them.

Actually explains why Alliyahs mother spoke out against what was said about her in that documentary since they would be fucking up their money by exposing him.
 
Damn didn't know that, good for them.

Actually explains why Alliyahs mother spoke out against what was said about her in that documentary since they would be fucking up their money by exposing him.


Bruh I heard a story that Aaliyah's family members caught Aaliyah, her mom, and R. Kelly in the same bedroom on different occasions at Aaliyah's familys house back in the day. The more I read and hear about her, the more I feel like Aaliyah was pimped out by her parents / handlers to reach her success.
 
Bruh I heard a story that Aaliyah's family members caught Aaliyah, her mom, and R. Kelly in the same bedroom on different occasions at Aaliyah's familys house back in the day. The more I read and hear about her, the more I feel like Aaliyah was pimped out by her parents / handlers to reach her success.

I wouldn't doubt it, that seems like the type of family he preys on:smh:
 
I don't know Peeps.

You all know from my previous posts on Kelly, that I've never gave any support towards that dude in the slightest.

But this "move" from Avenatti comes off as another White Liberal Move to use the Black Male Sexual Pervert trope to advance himself or whatever issues he may want publicly ignored.

Avenatti already lost public points following his own domestic violence allegations last year. This, after months of crusading against Trump. And that issue was just the tip for him.

Again,
I could care less about Kelly.
But Avenatti's "interest" in this doesn't feel genuine.
Leaves me suspicious of his motives.
Fuck would he have to be involved for at all if this weren't about money? When do victims of crimes need fucking lawyers? Probably tried to shake Kelly down and Kelly said he wasn't paying. Here we are.

Avenatti probably asked for a crazy amount of money.
 
Exactly. After seeing the first tape along with the rest of the world showing the log cabin from his music video and this fool walked :smh::smh: There will be no girl coming forwards it will probably play out the same way as before if it gets any play at all. It's sad but :money::money: talks.
That man doesn’t have money like he did during the previous trial. So....
 
I mean........

How is this any different from the last tape that clearly showed him urinating on a girl that was clearly underage in a sauna that I can confirm was inside his old house, because I've seen it with my own two eyes....

If that nigga could get acquitted by a Jury after seeing the last 27 minute under-age sex tape where he was urinating on a girl that called him daddy...

Why does anyone think this is going to be any different.



R. Kelly Is Acquitted in Child Pornography Case


By DAVID STREITFELDJUNE 14, 2008


CHICAGO — It took more than six years for prosecutors to get the R&B star R. Kelly into court on charges of child pornography. It only took a few hours for a jury to declare him not guilty on all 14 counts.

Mr. Kelly had been accused of making a 27-minute sex tape with an under-age female. But a high-powered defense team convinced the jury of nine men and three women that the identity of the girl was not conclusive.

As the verdicts were being read on Friday, the singer started crying and whispering “Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus,” over and over again, his lawyers said.

Mr. Kelly, 41, whose signature song is “I Believe I Can Fly,” saluted a crowd of his fans as he left court and then put his hand on his heart. He made no remarks, but the impassive face he had worn during the four-week trial showed a flicker of a smile.

In the same courtroom where the trial was conducted, five jurors told reporters that the absence of testimony from the alleged victim was a big handicap. “All of us felt the grayness of the case," one juror said.

As outlined in the prosecution’s opening and closing statements, the case was intended to be clear-cut: the “sweet, nice, lovely” victim was introduced to Mr. Kelly at the age of 12 by her aunt, a protégé of Mr. Kelly’s named Stephanie Edwards. But instead of making the girl a star, Mr. Kelly preyed on her, made her do “vile, disgusting” things and filmed them. Since Mr. Kelly knew she was under age, the state said, he was guilty of making child pornography.

Expert witnesses for the prosecution said that the VHS tape, whose origin is unknown, was a multigeneration copy but had not been tampered with. Prosecutors also pointed out how the man on the tape turned his back briefly to the camera. It was less than a quarter of a second, but enough time to see a mole on his back — just like the one Mr. Kelly has.

While 14 witnesses for the prosecution identified the girl in the tape, and some identified Mr. Kelly as well, only one tied them together in a sexual relationship. That was Lisa Van Allen, who testified that she had a three-way sexual encounter with them.

Ms. Van Allen, who received state and federal immunity to testify, did not appear to be an unimpeachable witness. She told the court that she had first had sex with Mr. Kelly at age 17, immediately after being introduced to him on the set of one of his videos, and admitted that she stole a $20,000 Rolex from him. Her current boyfriend and a former boyfriend are both felons.

The defense team called her a liar and extortionist and compared her, literally, to Satan.

Mr. Kelly’s lawyers, who included Edward Genson, Sam Adam and his son, Sam Adam Jr., filed so many motions that they helped delay the start of the trial for six years. But once in court, the lawyers adopted a minimalist approach, limiting their side of the story to two days. Mr. Kelly did not testify.

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R. Kelly after the verdict.CreditJohn Gress/Reuters
At the time this seemed to reveal a weakness of the defense’s case. The defense team never even denied that the tape had been shot in Mr. Kelly’s former home.

As portrayed by Sam Adam Jr. in closing arguments, Mr. Kelly was less predator than prey, the victim of a loose conspiracy by Ms. Edwards, whose career disappeared after a falling-out with the star, as well as Ms. Van Allen and others searching for a payoff, revenge or both.

“This whole thing, from beginning to end, is about money,” Mr. Adam said.

Flailing his arms, he suggested not one but many alternate narratives: that the mole on the back of the man in the film didn’t exist, was a computer blip or was inserted by an unknown someone for nefarious purposes; that the film itself was a fake; that it had computer morphing in it like the dinosaurs in “Jurassic Park”; or that it starred models or prostitutes who looked like Mr. Kelly and his alleged victim.

He proposed that the jury would not recognize the woman, who is now 23, if she were sitting in the courtroom.

“Let’s cut to the chase,” he said. “How do you victimize a person when she says, ‘It’s not me’?”

For good measure, he suggested it was the jury’s patriotic duty to find the singer innocent.


After the verdict, when a reporter asked Mr. Adam if he would now be raising his rates, he smiled broadly and said: “I don’t have any hourly rate. I do everything pro bono when I fight for the innocent like Mr. Kelly.”

The prosecution team, at a post-trial news conference, looked both stoic and shocked.

“Child pornography cases can be extremely difficult in many ways,” said Cook County State’s Attorney Richard Devine, noting that the victims often do not consider themselves victims. “If we receive similar evidence today or tomorrow, we are going to bring that case.”

Leonard Cavise, a professor of law at DePaul University who was skeptical of the prosecutors’ case, said the optimistic way to look at the verdict was that “this is a victory for the concept of reasonable doubt.” The jury, he said, “is saying, ‘We weren’t totally sure it was the girl, we weren’t totally sure it was him.’ ”

The negative way, Mr. Cavise said, would be this: “The jury gave him the extra benefit of the doubt because of who he is, just like the O. J. Simpson jury.”

In some ways, this case did not resemble the Simpson case. R. Kelly is a Chicago success story and still makes his home here, yet as a public spectacle the trial was something of a bust.

The courthouse is in an inconveniently located neighborhood, the charges were old, and allegations of the singer’s interest in under-age women are older still. On most days there was more courtroom security than spectators.

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Oh and in conclusion...

This nigga is guilty..


How do you know about the sauna (not trying to be funny). Did you work for r.kelly??? You work in the music biz

Anyway I saw that tape obviously this was before anyone knew the girl was underage and I don’t see how this nigga got away with that shit. Well I guess I know now because I didn’t know the girl didn’t testify
 
From what I've heard legal analysts say, the victim claiming it isn't her won't fly this time around.

An employee of Kelly turned over the tape who was also in his employ at the time. The person who turned over the tape can identify the girl and Kelly. He's done.

And it's already been established that this is within the statue of limitations. An attorney of Michael's caliber who has over a billion dollars in settlements on his OWN.... wouldn't waste time with something so critical establishing early if he wasn't sure.

The tape is within the time limit, an employee can verify its him and the identity of the girl, there is no over to pay off like last time. He is finished and bidding his time...
 
Why hasn't this man left the fucking country?


That is what OJ Simpson son did after he killed Nicole and Goldman. Jason left and his father took all the heat for what his son did. OJ might now know the danger he is in. The same as all blacks around the world. Your DNA is a treat and they are always working on getting rid of all threats to the reality they built
 
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