wonder why they choose to use typhoid mary here instead of daredevil season 3
Netflix Discussion Thread: Iron Fist (New Trailer!)
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its not bad but just like Jessica Jones and Luke Cage these season is longer than it needs to be, they need to cut it to 6 episodes.
Another behind the scenes clip about the fighting...
This season of iron fist is 10 eps , but i think 6 eps is way to short a season i hate when they have super short bbc seasons like that. Soon as you get into the show its over
Damn why does everyone hate season 1
I didn't realize they shortened the season, but I am happy they did. 10 episodes in a season is the sweet spot for dramas in my opinion. Go shorter and like you said it ends just as it's getting good, go longer and you risk having filler, which the other Marvel/Netflix shows have had complaints about that lull in episodes 8-10. Preacher and Mr Robot both made that mistake in their second seasons and then shortened it back to 10 episodes in the 3rd season.
I didn't hate S1, but it did start out very slow, and Danny did come across as a whiney child at first. Near the end it got much better I thought, but this is the proverbial "golden age of television" if you don't live up to Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, etc... level of writing and producing you get shit on hard. Plus with so much focus on review sites and outside opinions it tends to create a mob mentality for the opinion of shows, especially if they are just average. If your average you should be great, but since your not you suck.
I looked up the guy in these 2 behind the scene vids, Clayton Barber on IMDB, he wasn't involved with season 1, but he seems like he will be a good addition to the production of the show.
Stunt Coordinator for S2 of Iron Fist and S3 of Jessica Jones.
For the stuff he has done...
Fight Coordinator for Black Panther
Fight & Stunt Coordinator for Creed
Fight Coordinator for Blade II
Stunt Performer for The Fate of the Furious
Stunt Performer for John Wick: Chapter2
He has also done stunts for Ride Along, Man of Steel, The Bourne Legacy, Get the Gringo, Alias, Angel, xXx: State of the Union, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 8 Mile, Blade, and a ton more stuff. Plus he has a Black belt in taekwondo.
Definitely seems like a step in the right direction.
Stunt Coordinator for S2 of Iron Fist and S3 of Jessica Jones.
For the stuff he has done...
Fight Coordinator for Black Panther
Fight & Stunt Coordinator for Creed
Fight Coordinator for Blade II
Stunt Performer for The Fate of the Furious
Stunt Performer for John Wick: Chapter2
He has also done stunts for Ride Along, Man of Steel, The Bourne Legacy, Get the Gringo, Alias, Angel, xXx: State of the Union, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 8 Mile, Blade, and a ton more stuff. Plus he has a Black belt in taekwondo.
Definitely seems like a step in the right direction.
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Got to give Marvel credit... When fans complain they listen...
Complained about Iron Fist.... Fixed fight style, added Misty Knight and shorted the season...
They fucked up the Mandrian... They gave us the One Shot to correct it..
Complained about villians.... they gave us Killmonger and Thanos...
Now... how on Earth will they fix the The Inhumans....
Complained about Iron Fist.... Fixed fight style, added Misty Knight and shorted the season...
They fucked up the Mandrian... They gave us the One Shot to correct it..
Complained about villians.... they gave us Killmonger and Thanos...
Now... how on Earth will they fix the The Inhumans....
Only Jessica Jones is worst
The Inhumans show is cancelled, but it has been rumored they may show up in Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. which is another example of fixing something fans complained about initially.
JJ season 1 is one of my favorite marvel Netflix shows .. Only Luke cage tops it imho.. Then dd
I know it's cancelled but they need to recast... if they can replace Ed Norton and Terrence Howard they can replace those bums...
Bring them into the MCU like originally planned...
The TV medium does them no justice...
Exactly
i have been around a lot of martial artists , most of the really good ones look geeky !
No. They don't. Not when done by people proficient in them.
Here's the problem with fake looking fighting (sports too): the receiving person is always ready to receive. And it shows. For instance, you can see Danny waiting to either throw or receive blows. Like the girls when they play double-dutch, waiting to jump in. That's not how real fights (or sports) go. Real fights are unpredictable and people don't wait to get hit or to throw a scripted blow. There are no delays between blows thrown and blocked or landed. Luke Cage suffers from this at times too, as does JJ. DD not so much.
There's never NOT going to be a delay when you're dealing with actors who aren't proficient in MA. But you can easily see the difference in those who have actually trained hard and/or have some athletic talent. Then you have extremes like Wesley Snipes who is all in on MA. You also have stephen segal who is a fraud but has quite a bit of knowledge of MA.
Anyway, my point is - watch any youtube video of MA fights and then watch Danny Rand's fights. If you can't see the difference I have to question how much MA you've been around.
You're right in that there is a lot of hesitation in scripted fight scenes even with Danny Yeun and Michael Jai White . By the use of the term " geeky" I misunderstood you to be referring to physical appearance only, not fighting reactions .
This looks a lot better. The women are better also.
It was reported they did not rush season 2 they way they did season 1. They actually took time to train Danny for the fight scenes and flesh out the character. The Luke Cage episode shows the work that was done.
It was reported they did not rush season 2 they way they did season 1. They actually took time to train Danny for the fight scenes and flesh out the character. The Luke Cage episode shows the work that was done.
I go Luke Cage and then Daredevil. It is mostly the chick that plays JJ. I am not feeling her.
Looks improved but still kinda suspect. Most people who read comics know Davos is the Steel Serpent and he’s jealous Danny was chosen to be Iron fist. Plot is weak to me. Why not focus more on his actual trials as an immortal weapon of the 7 capital cities? And when will The Thunderer make an appearance? I mean he’s Davos dad too. All he did was train everybody who’s ever been an Iron Fist. No Orson Randall either? He fled Kun Lun and used the book of the iron fist to hide. And for the love of God show the fucking battle when he fights Shou Lao the undying. Man I’m already going grading this shit a C-
First review of S2 I have seen posted, it is spoiler free.
Marvel’s Iron Fist (Season 2) 2.1-2.6 Review
Author’s Note: This is a spoiler-free review based on screeners for the first six episodes of Marvel’s Iron Fist Season 2 that were provided by Netflix.
At this year’s Comic-Con International, Marvel Studios and Netflix clearly put their best feet forward to make the hard sell for the upcoming second season of Iron Fist. The show’s first season was greatly maligned by critics, despite all the previous Marvel Netflix efforts receiving heaping amounts of critical praise.
The freshman frame of the show, while incredibly flawed, was also incredibly misunderstood. Regardless, Iron Fist Season 2 gives the show and its likable set of main characters a fresh start, thanks to new showrunner Raven Metzner. Credit to Metzner he believes in this show and characters, and he clearly put in a lot of effort to guarantee that the new season would be a better ride overall.
The biggest problem for the first season for Iron Fist was that it started off very slowly. Scott Buck was clearly the wrong man to helm the ship. Viewers were forced to watch Danny meander around and deal with being institutionalized. It’s still annoying that in the MCU people can’t accept that aliens can attack New York City, Norse deities exist and can travel to Earth, a scientist can turn into a raging green monster and that a highly advanced killer robot can try to end the world by dropping a city out of a sky, but the idea of someone like Danny Rand having superpowers and meeting a dragon is insane. That aside, while the first season of Iron Fist was not as terrible as many critics made it out to be, it had its fair share of problems. Metzner and his staff do an admirable job of fixing many of them.
For starters, the action for the show starts off a lot quicker. After the events of The Defenders, Danny Rand (Finn Jones) took what he believed were Matt Murdock’s final words to heart. He believes it’s now his responsibility to protect New York City. He’s grown more comfortable with using the Iron Fist, but the violence in Chinatown is only growing. The apparent defeat of the Hand has created a power vacuum, and the main Triad clans are jockeying for control. A gang war is about to erupt. Danny is stepping up his vigilante activities to try and keep the peace, much to the chagrin of his girlfriend Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick). However, other forces are aware of his presence and are engineering the Iron Fist’s downfall.
Additionally, Davos (Sacha Dhawan) has emerged as one of the central antagonists this season. This gives Dhawan the opportunity to have a greatly expanded role of embodying the Steel Serpent character from the comics. He turns out to be a much more compelling antagonist than the rather underwhelming Harold Meachum of the first season.
Another major improvement to the season is the fight scenes, which definitely left something to be desired for the most part in Season 1. Season 2 starts off with Danny in much greater control of his Iron Fist abilities, but even that is made into a part of Danny’s overall character arc. While Danny has grown much more comfortable with using the Iron Fist in battle, he’s starting to become overly reliant on it, and the power that’s coursing through him is starting to guide him into trouble.
As the disappointing fight scenes were one of the major points of contention for the first season, the Comic-Con panel went very far to show that the message was heard by Marvel Studios loud and clear. Clayton Barber (Black Panther) serves as the new stunt coordinator and fight choreographer for Season 2, and his hard work pays off. The marked improvement in the fight scenes not only showcases Danny’s skills and abilities, but there are some other fantastic fight sequences involving Colleen Wing and Misty Knight (Simone Missick), who joins the cast for Season 2.
Colleen Wing’s character arc and fight scenes also play off of her own personal identity crisis, where she is trying to stay away from fighting and violence. When she finally gets the chance to cut loose again, it provides one of the best moments of the season thus far. Henwick was easily one of the breakout stars from the first season of Iron Fist, and she’s still one of the best parts of the show here.
Plus, much like Luke Cage Season 2 basically got to take a break and do a Heroes for Hire subplot, there’s a nice subplot where Colleen and Misty get to team up, and it’s basically a Daughters of the Dragon mini-arc, climaxing in another great fight scene that was among the selection shown at this year’s Comic-Con.
Another addition this season is Alice Eve playing the disturbed and mysterious Mary Walker, who fans will recognize as Typhoid Mary from the comics. Eve gets the chance to do some interesting work here in performing Mary’s multiple personalities and someone suffering from dissociative identity disorder. Unfortunately, that’s come at the cost of some of the more interesting aspects of the character.
So far, the drawbacks to Season 2 are some specific narrative and character choices. One thing that’s starting to become disappointingly prevalent throughout the Marvel Netflix line is seeing characters who are supposed to be smart repeatedly make head-scratching decisions. It was tough to ignore in later seasons of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage as well. It’s one thing for characters to make mistakes, but sometimes it appears the writing team is having the characters abandon sanity for the sake of moving the story along or giving them more obstacles.
Additionally, the Joy Meachum subplot leaves a lot to be desired. At the end of last season, there was a sudden turn for Joy Meachum that was in no way natural. This season doesn’t backtrack on that plot development, but the writers’ attempt to explain Joy’s direction leaves a lot to be desired.
This all could’ve been amended if the setup was that Joy was led to believe Danny had killed or murdered her father. But as it stands, it’s the weakest subplot for the season. Jessica Stroup is in no way a bad actress, but Raven Metzner was unable to really rectify one of the most flawed loose threads that was left dangling in the first season.
Fans who truly hated the first season of Iron Fist might not find enough in Season 2 to change their minds. But for the most part, the show displayed superior story in its second time at bat, with a stronger focus on the good characters, better fight scenes and a more intriguing, developing plot. This is far from being the perfect Iron Fist series. The show clearly needs to embrace more of the mystical, fantasy martial arts elements from the comics, but Season 2 takes many more steps toward making Iron Fist the show it should be.
THE FINAL SCORE: 8.5 - VERY GOOD
Iron Fist is back for another season, and it's significantly better than the first. There's better action, better writing, a more focused plot and some improved character development. There are definitely still some issues with plotting, the Marvel Netflix shows aiming to be too grounded 'n' gritty for their own good some other caveats. Overall, what's been shown so far this season leaves a much stronger impression than Season 1.
Marvel’s Iron Fist (Season 2) 2.1-2.6 Review
Author’s Note: This is a spoiler-free review based on screeners for the first six episodes of Marvel’s Iron Fist Season 2 that were provided by Netflix.
At this year’s Comic-Con International, Marvel Studios and Netflix clearly put their best feet forward to make the hard sell for the upcoming second season of Iron Fist. The show’s first season was greatly maligned by critics, despite all the previous Marvel Netflix efforts receiving heaping amounts of critical praise.
The freshman frame of the show, while incredibly flawed, was also incredibly misunderstood. Regardless, Iron Fist Season 2 gives the show and its likable set of main characters a fresh start, thanks to new showrunner Raven Metzner. Credit to Metzner he believes in this show and characters, and he clearly put in a lot of effort to guarantee that the new season would be a better ride overall.
The biggest problem for the first season for Iron Fist was that it started off very slowly. Scott Buck was clearly the wrong man to helm the ship. Viewers were forced to watch Danny meander around and deal with being institutionalized. It’s still annoying that in the MCU people can’t accept that aliens can attack New York City, Norse deities exist and can travel to Earth, a scientist can turn into a raging green monster and that a highly advanced killer robot can try to end the world by dropping a city out of a sky, but the idea of someone like Danny Rand having superpowers and meeting a dragon is insane. That aside, while the first season of Iron Fist was not as terrible as many critics made it out to be, it had its fair share of problems. Metzner and his staff do an admirable job of fixing many of them.
For starters, the action for the show starts off a lot quicker. After the events of The Defenders, Danny Rand (Finn Jones) took what he believed were Matt Murdock’s final words to heart. He believes it’s now his responsibility to protect New York City. He’s grown more comfortable with using the Iron Fist, but the violence in Chinatown is only growing. The apparent defeat of the Hand has created a power vacuum, and the main Triad clans are jockeying for control. A gang war is about to erupt. Danny is stepping up his vigilante activities to try and keep the peace, much to the chagrin of his girlfriend Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick). However, other forces are aware of his presence and are engineering the Iron Fist’s downfall.
Additionally, Davos (Sacha Dhawan) has emerged as one of the central antagonists this season. This gives Dhawan the opportunity to have a greatly expanded role of embodying the Steel Serpent character from the comics. He turns out to be a much more compelling antagonist than the rather underwhelming Harold Meachum of the first season.
Another major improvement to the season is the fight scenes, which definitely left something to be desired for the most part in Season 1. Season 2 starts off with Danny in much greater control of his Iron Fist abilities, but even that is made into a part of Danny’s overall character arc. While Danny has grown much more comfortable with using the Iron Fist in battle, he’s starting to become overly reliant on it, and the power that’s coursing through him is starting to guide him into trouble.
As the disappointing fight scenes were one of the major points of contention for the first season, the Comic-Con panel went very far to show that the message was heard by Marvel Studios loud and clear. Clayton Barber (Black Panther) serves as the new stunt coordinator and fight choreographer for Season 2, and his hard work pays off. The marked improvement in the fight scenes not only showcases Danny’s skills and abilities, but there are some other fantastic fight sequences involving Colleen Wing and Misty Knight (Simone Missick), who joins the cast for Season 2.
Colleen Wing’s character arc and fight scenes also play off of her own personal identity crisis, where she is trying to stay away from fighting and violence. When she finally gets the chance to cut loose again, it provides one of the best moments of the season thus far. Henwick was easily one of the breakout stars from the first season of Iron Fist, and she’s still one of the best parts of the show here.
Plus, much like Luke Cage Season 2 basically got to take a break and do a Heroes for Hire subplot, there’s a nice subplot where Colleen and Misty get to team up, and it’s basically a Daughters of the Dragon mini-arc, climaxing in another great fight scene that was among the selection shown at this year’s Comic-Con.
Another addition this season is Alice Eve playing the disturbed and mysterious Mary Walker, who fans will recognize as Typhoid Mary from the comics. Eve gets the chance to do some interesting work here in performing Mary’s multiple personalities and someone suffering from dissociative identity disorder. Unfortunately, that’s come at the cost of some of the more interesting aspects of the character.
So far, the drawbacks to Season 2 are some specific narrative and character choices. One thing that’s starting to become disappointingly prevalent throughout the Marvel Netflix line is seeing characters who are supposed to be smart repeatedly make head-scratching decisions. It was tough to ignore in later seasons of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage as well. It’s one thing for characters to make mistakes, but sometimes it appears the writing team is having the characters abandon sanity for the sake of moving the story along or giving them more obstacles.
Additionally, the Joy Meachum subplot leaves a lot to be desired. At the end of last season, there was a sudden turn for Joy Meachum that was in no way natural. This season doesn’t backtrack on that plot development, but the writers’ attempt to explain Joy’s direction leaves a lot to be desired.
This all could’ve been amended if the setup was that Joy was led to believe Danny had killed or murdered her father. But as it stands, it’s the weakest subplot for the season. Jessica Stroup is in no way a bad actress, but Raven Metzner was unable to really rectify one of the most flawed loose threads that was left dangling in the first season.
Fans who truly hated the first season of Iron Fist might not find enough in Season 2 to change their minds. But for the most part, the show displayed superior story in its second time at bat, with a stronger focus on the good characters, better fight scenes and a more intriguing, developing plot. This is far from being the perfect Iron Fist series. The show clearly needs to embrace more of the mystical, fantasy martial arts elements from the comics, but Season 2 takes many more steps toward making Iron Fist the show it should be.
THE FINAL SCORE: 8.5 - VERY GOOD
Iron Fist is back for another season, and it's significantly better than the first. There's better action, better writing, a more focused plot and some improved character development. There are definitely still some issues with plotting, the Marvel Netflix shows aiming to be too grounded 'n' gritty for their own good some other caveats. Overall, what's been shown so far this season leaves a much stronger impression than Season 1.
First review of S2 I have seen posted, it is spoiler free.
Marvel’s Iron Fist (Season 2) 2.1-2.6 Review
Author’s Note: This is a spoiler-free review based on screeners for the first six episodes of Marvel’s Iron Fist Season 2 that were provided by Netflix.
At this year’s Comic-Con International, Marvel Studios and Netflix clearly put their best feet forward to make the hard sell for the upcoming second season of Iron Fist. The show’s first season was greatly maligned by critics, despite all the previous Marvel Netflix efforts receiving heaping amounts of critical praise.
The freshman frame of the show, while incredibly flawed, was also incredibly misunderstood. Regardless, Iron Fist Season 2 gives the show and its likable set of main characters a fresh start, thanks to new showrunner Raven Metzner. Credit to Metzner he believes in this show and characters, and he clearly put in a lot of effort to guarantee that the new season would be a better ride overall.
The biggest problem for the first season for Iron Fist was that it started off very slowly. Scott Buck was clearly the wrong man to helm the ship. Viewers were forced to watch Danny meander around and deal with being institutionalized. It’s still annoying that in the MCU people can’t accept that aliens can attack New York City, Norse deities exist and can travel to Earth, a scientist can turn into a raging green monster and that a highly advanced killer robot can try to end the world by dropping a city out of a sky, but the idea of someone like Danny Rand having superpowers and meeting a dragon is insane. That aside, while the first season of Iron Fist was not as terrible as many critics made it out to be, it had its fair share of problems. Metzner and his staff do an admirable job of fixing many of them.
For starters, the action for the show starts off a lot quicker. After the events of The Defenders, Danny Rand (Finn Jones) took what he believed were Matt Murdock’s final words to heart. He believes it’s now his responsibility to protect New York City. He’s grown more comfortable with using the Iron Fist, but the violence in Chinatown is only growing. The apparent defeat of the Hand has created a power vacuum, and the main Triad clans are jockeying for control. A gang war is about to erupt. Danny is stepping up his vigilante activities to try and keep the peace, much to the chagrin of his girlfriend Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick). However, other forces are aware of his presence and are engineering the Iron Fist’s downfall.
Additionally, Davos (Sacha Dhawan) has emerged as one of the central antagonists this season. This gives Dhawan the opportunity to have a greatly expanded role of embodying the Steel Serpent character from the comics. He turns out to be a much more compelling antagonist than the rather underwhelming Harold Meachum of the first season.
Another major improvement to the season is the fight scenes, which definitely left something to be desired for the most part in Season 1. Season 2 starts off with Danny in much greater control of his Iron Fist abilities, but even that is made into a part of Danny’s overall character arc. While Danny has grown much more comfortable with using the Iron Fist in battle, he’s starting to become overly reliant on it, and the power that’s coursing through him is starting to guide him into trouble.
As the disappointing fight scenes were one of the major points of contention for the first season, the Comic-Con panel went very far to show that the message was heard by Marvel Studios loud and clear. Clayton Barber (Black Panther) serves as the new stunt coordinator and fight choreographer for Season 2, and his hard work pays off. The marked improvement in the fight scenes not only showcases Danny’s skills and abilities, but there are some other fantastic fight sequences involving Colleen Wing and Misty Knight (Simone Missick), who joins the cast for Season 2.
Colleen Wing’s character arc and fight scenes also play off of her own personal identity crisis, where she is trying to stay away from fighting and violence. When she finally gets the chance to cut loose again, it provides one of the best moments of the season thus far. Henwick was easily one of the breakout stars from the first season of Iron Fist, and she’s still one of the best parts of the show here.
Plus, much like Luke Cage Season 2 basically got to take a break and do a Heroes for Hire subplot, there’s a nice subplot where Colleen and Misty get to team up, and it’s basically a Daughters of the Dragon mini-arc, climaxing in another great fight scene that was among the selection shown at this year’s Comic-Con.
Another addition this season is Alice Eve playing the disturbed and mysterious Mary Walker, who fans will recognize as Typhoid Mary from the comics. Eve gets the chance to do some interesting work here in performing Mary’s multiple personalities and someone suffering from dissociative identity disorder. Unfortunately, that’s come at the cost of some of the more interesting aspects of the character.
So far, the drawbacks to Season 2 are some specific narrative and character choices. One thing that’s starting to become disappointingly prevalent throughout the Marvel Netflix line is seeing characters who are supposed to be smart repeatedly make head-scratching decisions. It was tough to ignore in later seasons of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage as well. It’s one thing for characters to make mistakes, but sometimes it appears the writing team is having the characters abandon sanity for the sake of moving the story along or giving them more obstacles.
Additionally, the Joy Meachum subplot leaves a lot to be desired. At the end of last season, there was a sudden turn for Joy Meachum that was in no way natural. This season doesn’t backtrack on that plot development, but the writers’ attempt to explain Joy’s direction leaves a lot to be desired.
This all could’ve been amended if the setup was that Joy was led to believe Danny had killed or murdered her father. But as it stands, it’s the weakest subplot for the season. Jessica Stroup is in no way a bad actress, but Raven Metzner was unable to really rectify one of the most flawed loose threads that was left dangling in the first season.
Fans who truly hated the first season of Iron Fist might not find enough in Season 2 to change their minds. But for the most part, the show displayed superior story in its second time at bat, with a stronger focus on the good characters, better fight scenes and a more intriguing, developing plot. This is far from being the perfect Iron Fist series. The show clearly needs to embrace more of the mystical, fantasy martial arts elements from the comics, but Season 2 takes many more steps toward making Iron Fist the show it should be.
THE FINAL SCORE: 8.5 - VERY GOOD
Iron Fist is back for another season, and it's significantly better than the first. There's better action, better writing, a more focused plot and some improved character development. There are definitely still some issues with plotting, the Marvel Netflix shows aiming to be too grounded 'n' gritty for their own good some other caveats. Overall, what's been shown so far this season leaves a much stronger impression than Season 1.
Marvel’s Iron Fist (Season 2) 2.1-2.6 Review
Author’s Note: This is a spoiler-free review based on screeners for the first six episodes of Marvel’s Iron Fist Season 2 that were provided by Netflix.
At this year’s Comic-Con International, Marvel Studios and Netflix clearly put their best feet forward to make the hard sell for the upcoming second season of Iron Fist. The show’s first season was greatly maligned by critics, despite all the previous Marvel Netflix efforts receiving heaping amounts of critical praise.
The freshman frame of the show, while incredibly flawed, was also incredibly misunderstood. Regardless, Iron Fist Season 2 gives the show and its likable set of main characters a fresh start, thanks to new showrunner Raven Metzner. Credit to Metzner he believes in this show and characters, and he clearly put in a lot of effort to guarantee that the new season would be a better ride overall.
The biggest problem for the first season for Iron Fist was that it started off very slowly. Scott Buck was clearly the wrong man to helm the ship. Viewers were forced to watch Danny meander around and deal with being institutionalized. It’s still annoying that in the MCU people can’t accept that aliens can attack New York City, Norse deities exist and can travel to Earth, a scientist can turn into a raging green monster and that a highly advanced killer robot can try to end the world by dropping a city out of a sky, but the idea of someone like Danny Rand having superpowers and meeting a dragon is insane. That aside, while the first season of Iron Fist was not as terrible as many critics made it out to be, it had its fair share of problems. Metzner and his staff do an admirable job of fixing many of them.
For starters, the action for the show starts off a lot quicker. After the events of The Defenders, Danny Rand (Finn Jones) took what he believed were Matt Murdock’s final words to heart. He believes it’s now his responsibility to protect New York City. He’s grown more comfortable with using the Iron Fist, but the violence in Chinatown is only growing. The apparent defeat of the Hand has created a power vacuum, and the main Triad clans are jockeying for control. A gang war is about to erupt. Danny is stepping up his vigilante activities to try and keep the peace, much to the chagrin of his girlfriend Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick). However, other forces are aware of his presence and are engineering the Iron Fist’s downfall.
Additionally, Davos (Sacha Dhawan) has emerged as one of the central antagonists this season. This gives Dhawan the opportunity to have a greatly expanded role of embodying the Steel Serpent character from the comics. He turns out to be a much more compelling antagonist than the rather underwhelming Harold Meachum of the first season.
Another major improvement to the season is the fight scenes, which definitely left something to be desired for the most part in Season 1. Season 2 starts off with Danny in much greater control of his Iron Fist abilities, but even that is made into a part of Danny’s overall character arc. While Danny has grown much more comfortable with using the Iron Fist in battle, he’s starting to become overly reliant on it, and the power that’s coursing through him is starting to guide him into trouble.
As the disappointing fight scenes were one of the major points of contention for the first season, the Comic-Con panel went very far to show that the message was heard by Marvel Studios loud and clear. Clayton Barber (Black Panther) serves as the new stunt coordinator and fight choreographer for Season 2, and his hard work pays off. The marked improvement in the fight scenes not only showcases Danny’s skills and abilities, but there are some other fantastic fight sequences involving Colleen Wing and Misty Knight (Simone Missick), who joins the cast for Season 2.
Colleen Wing’s character arc and fight scenes also play off of her own personal identity crisis, where she is trying to stay away from fighting and violence. When she finally gets the chance to cut loose again, it provides one of the best moments of the season thus far. Henwick was easily one of the breakout stars from the first season of Iron Fist, and she’s still one of the best parts of the show here.
Plus, much like Luke Cage Season 2 basically got to take a break and do a Heroes for Hire subplot, there’s a nice subplot where Colleen and Misty get to team up, and it’s basically a Daughters of the Dragon mini-arc, climaxing in another great fight scene that was among the selection shown at this year’s Comic-Con.
Another addition this season is Alice Eve playing the disturbed and mysterious Mary Walker, who fans will recognize as Typhoid Mary from the comics. Eve gets the chance to do some interesting work here in performing Mary’s multiple personalities and someone suffering from dissociative identity disorder. Unfortunately, that’s come at the cost of some of the more interesting aspects of the character.
So far, the drawbacks to Season 2 are some specific narrative and character choices. One thing that’s starting to become disappointingly prevalent throughout the Marvel Netflix line is seeing characters who are supposed to be smart repeatedly make head-scratching decisions. It was tough to ignore in later seasons of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage as well. It’s one thing for characters to make mistakes, but sometimes it appears the writing team is having the characters abandon sanity for the sake of moving the story along or giving them more obstacles.
Additionally, the Joy Meachum subplot leaves a lot to be desired. At the end of last season, there was a sudden turn for Joy Meachum that was in no way natural. This season doesn’t backtrack on that plot development, but the writers’ attempt to explain Joy’s direction leaves a lot to be desired.
This all could’ve been amended if the setup was that Joy was led to believe Danny had killed or murdered her father. But as it stands, it’s the weakest subplot for the season. Jessica Stroup is in no way a bad actress, but Raven Metzner was unable to really rectify one of the most flawed loose threads that was left dangling in the first season.
Fans who truly hated the first season of Iron Fist might not find enough in Season 2 to change their minds. But for the most part, the show displayed superior story in its second time at bat, with a stronger focus on the good characters, better fight scenes and a more intriguing, developing plot. This is far from being the perfect Iron Fist series. The show clearly needs to embrace more of the mystical, fantasy martial arts elements from the comics, but Season 2 takes many more steps toward making Iron Fist the show it should be.
THE FINAL SCORE: 8.5 - VERY GOOD
Iron Fist is back for another season, and it's significantly better than the first. There's better action, better writing, a more focused plot and some improved character development. There are definitely still some issues with plotting, the Marvel Netflix shows aiming to be too grounded 'n' gritty for their own good some other caveats. Overall, what's been shown so far this season leaves a much stronger impression than Season 1.
First review of S2 I have seen posted, it is spoiler free.
Marvel’s Iron Fist (Season 2) 2.1-2.6 Review
Author’s Note: This is a spoiler-free review based on screeners for the first six episodes of Marvel’s Iron Fist Season 2 that were provided by Netflix.
At this year’s Comic-Con International, Marvel Studios and Netflix clearly put their best feet forward to make the hard sell for the upcoming second season of Iron Fist. The show’s first season was greatly maligned by critics, despite all the previous Marvel Netflix efforts receiving heaping amounts of critical praise.
The freshman frame of the show, while incredibly flawed, was also incredibly misunderstood. Regardless, Iron Fist Season 2 gives the show and its likable set of main characters a fresh start, thanks to new showrunner Raven Metzner. Credit to Metzner he believes in this show and characters, and he clearly put in a lot of effort to guarantee that the new season would be a better ride overall.
The biggest problem for the first season for Iron Fist was that it started off very slowly. Scott Buck was clearly the wrong man to helm the ship. Viewers were forced to watch Danny meander around and deal with being institutionalized. It’s still annoying that in the MCU people can’t accept that aliens can attack New York City, Norse deities exist and can travel to Earth, a scientist can turn into a raging green monster and that a highly advanced killer robot can try to end the world by dropping a city out of a sky, but the idea of someone like Danny Rand having superpowers and meeting a dragon is insane. That aside, while the first season of Iron Fist was not as terrible as many critics made it out to be, it had its fair share of problems. Metzner and his staff do an admirable job of fixing many of them.
For starters, the action for the show starts off a lot quicker. After the events of The Defenders, Danny Rand (Finn Jones) took what he believed were Matt Murdock’s final words to heart. He believes it’s now his responsibility to protect New York City. He’s grown more comfortable with using the Iron Fist, but the violence in Chinatown is only growing. The apparent defeat of the Hand has created a power vacuum, and the main Triad clans are jockeying for control. A gang war is about to erupt. Danny is stepping up his vigilante activities to try and keep the peace, much to the chagrin of his girlfriend Colleen Wing (Jessica Henwick). However, other forces are aware of his presence and are engineering the Iron Fist’s downfall.
Additionally, Davos (Sacha Dhawan) has emerged as one of the central antagonists this season. This gives Dhawan the opportunity to have a greatly expanded role of embodying the Steel Serpent character from the comics. He turns out to be a much more compelling antagonist than the rather underwhelming Harold Meachum of the first season.
Another major improvement to the season is the fight scenes, which definitely left something to be desired for the most part in Season 1. Season 2 starts off with Danny in much greater control of his Iron Fist abilities, but even that is made into a part of Danny’s overall character arc. While Danny has grown much more comfortable with using the Iron Fist in battle, he’s starting to become overly reliant on it, and the power that’s coursing through him is starting to guide him into trouble.
As the disappointing fight scenes were one of the major points of contention for the first season, the Comic-Con panel went very far to show that the message was heard by Marvel Studios loud and clear. Clayton Barber (Black Panther) serves as the new stunt coordinator and fight choreographer for Season 2, and his hard work pays off. The marked improvement in the fight scenes not only showcases Danny’s skills and abilities, but there are some other fantastic fight sequences involving Colleen Wing and Misty Knight (Simone Missick), who joins the cast for Season 2.
Colleen Wing’s character arc and fight scenes also play off of her own personal identity crisis, where she is trying to stay away from fighting and violence. When she finally gets the chance to cut loose again, it provides one of the best moments of the season thus far. Henwick was easily one of the breakout stars from the first season of Iron Fist, and she’s still one of the best parts of the show here.
Plus, much like Luke Cage Season 2 basically got to take a break and do a Heroes for Hire subplot, there’s a nice subplot where Colleen and Misty get to team up, and it’s basically a Daughters of the Dragon mini-arc, climaxing in another great fight scene that was among the selection shown at this year’s Comic-Con.
Another addition this season is Alice Eve playing the disturbed and mysterious Mary Walker, who fans will recognize as Typhoid Mary from the comics. Eve gets the chance to do some interesting work here in performing Mary’s multiple personalities and someone suffering from dissociative identity disorder. Unfortunately, that’s come at the cost of some of the more interesting aspects of the character.
So far, the drawbacks to Season 2 are some specific narrative and character choices. One thing that’s starting to become disappointingly prevalent throughout the Marvel Netflix line is seeing characters who are supposed to be smart repeatedly make head-scratching decisions. It was tough to ignore in later seasons of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage as well. It’s one thing for characters to make mistakes, but sometimes it appears the writing team is having the characters abandon sanity for the sake of moving the story along or giving them more obstacles.
Additionally, the Joy Meachum subplot leaves a lot to be desired. At the end of last season, there was a sudden turn for Joy Meachum that was in no way natural. This season doesn’t backtrack on that plot development, but the writers’ attempt to explain Joy’s direction leaves a lot to be desired.
This all could’ve been amended if the setup was that Joy was led to believe Danny had killed or murdered her father. But as it stands, it’s the weakest subplot for the season. Jessica Stroup is in no way a bad actress, but Raven Metzner was unable to really rectify one of the most flawed loose threads that was left dangling in the first season.
Fans who truly hated the first season of Iron Fist might not find enough in Season 2 to change their minds. But for the most part, the show displayed superior story in its second time at bat, with a stronger focus on the good characters, better fight scenes and a more intriguing, developing plot. This is far from being the perfect Iron Fist series. The show clearly needs to embrace more of the mystical, fantasy martial arts elements from the comics, but Season 2 takes many more steps toward making Iron Fist the show it should be.
THE FINAL SCORE: 8.5 - VERY GOOD
Iron Fist is back for another season, and it's significantly better than the first. There's better action, better writing, a more focused plot and some improved character development. There are definitely still some issues with plotting, the Marvel Netflix shows aiming to be too grounded 'n' gritty for their own good some other caveats. Overall, what's been shown so far this season leaves a much stronger impression than Season 1.
Don’t know if I can trust a review that starts out saying that Season 1 wasn’t as bad as people said it was...
That shit was almost unwatchable
gotta be better than season 1 and leave my lady jess taras alone ....them lips(look to your left and below) 
the thickness is just a plus 
I agree. I'm on episode 6 and it flows much smoother, the fights are better and the story is more fluid.
I'm on episode one,I don't understand, why Joy is upset at Danny. It was her brother and mainly father that fucked her over......Her father killed her best friend parents,forced her brother to lie about their dad being alive and did all types of other shit in the process....shit makes no fucking sense at all.
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Joy_Meachum
She is abhorrent of dishonesty, which caused her to push away her brother and Danny for lying about Harold (her father) being alive, even when they explained that they were doing so to keep her away from the Hand. Despite walking out on her father after discovering his ruthless and manipulative nature in betraying Danny after the latter had helped him escape the Hand, she later came to regret turning her back on her father right before his death. Leaving the company, she would grow to harbor a deep resentment to Danny Rand for "ruining her life", more than eager to accept Davos' offer to kill him whereas before she would have been repulsed at the very thought, such as when she would not approve of her father and Danny's plans to kill Bakuto and the Hand.
Davos offer to Joy to kill Danny, and her acceptance was in the last 5 minutes of the S1 finale.
I'm on episode 6 now...it's light years better than the first season...Even,the choreography is better.
It has its flaws but like I said it's better than the first season.
It has its flaws but like I said it's better than the first season.
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