Ummm and who are the Lakers getting? CP3 aka “Bitchmade” and Oladipo aka “Peg Leg”?
I'll take either one being the 3rd best player on the team. No pressure at all.
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I'll take either one being the 3rd best player on the team. No pressure at all.
Dec 22? This year? Already?????
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NBA's amended deal for a 72-game season OK'd
The league's collective bargaining agreement, negotiated with the players' association and announced Tuesday by the NBA, sets the stage for a 72-game season that will open on Dec. 22.
One of the greatest to ever lace up...
No its not....Players’ union weak af.
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Another white male with NO playing experience, is now a head coach at 35
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Sources: James Harden, Russell Westbrook concerned about direction of Houston Rockets
As the Houston Rockets navigate an offseason of major change, a new challenge is emerging for the franchise -- the uncertainty of former MVP guards James Harden and Russell Westbrook on their futures with the team, sources told ESPN.
In the wake of the departures of head coach Mike D'Antoni and general manager Daryl Morey, Harden and Westbrook have expressed concern about the direction of the franchise through direct conversations or discussions with their representatives and the Rockets' front office, sources said.
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Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta, recently promoted general manager Rafael Stone and recently hired head coach Stephen Silas have emphasized that the franchise remains committed to fielding a contender while featuring the two perennial All-Stars in their primes. However, the concerns expressed by Harden and Westbrook that Houston's window as a contender could be closing has left the organization fearful that the superstars' commitment to remaining with the Rockets could be wavering.
Although neither player has requested a trade at this point, that scenario has become a plausible eventual possibility.
Harden, 31, has been an All-Star in all eight seasons since arriving in Houston, winning MVP in 2017-18 and finishing among the top three in voting four other times in the past six years, and claiming the NBA's past three scoring titles. He is owed $131.5 million over the three seasons remaining on his maximum contract, including a $46.9 million player option in 2022-23.
Westbrook, who will turn 32 on Thursday, is also owed $131.5 million over the next three seasons and has a $46.7 million player option in 2022-23. He won the 2016-17 MVP and made his ninth All-Star appearance last season, which ended with Westbrook playing through rust and injury after rushing back from a strained right quadriceps during the first round of the playoffs.
Both stars were consulted during the Rockets' coaching search and were on board with hiring Silas, sources said.
Harden, who has said publicly several times that he hopes to play the remainder of his career in Houston, has expressed similar urgency in the past several offseasons about improving the Rockets' chances to win a championship. He remains engaged in discussions with Houston's front office about potential personnel moves this offseason, sources said.
The Rockets have aggressively chased titles during Harden's tenure by three times pairing him with another perennial All-Star -- first signing center Dwight Howard as a free agent in 2013, then trading for Chris Paul in the 2017 offseason and finally swapping Paul and a package of first-round picks for Westbrook last summer.
The Rockets advanced to the Western Conference finals in 2015 with Howard and 2018 with Paul, but those partnerships with Harden ended soon thereafter partly because of tension involving personalities and basketball philosophy, specifically regarding Harden's preference to rely on isolations offensively.
Harden pushed to make the trade for Westbrook, his childhood friend in Los Angeles and former Oklahoma City Thunder teammate, a deal that depleted Houston's draft assets. The Rockets owe the Thunder their 2024 and 2026 first-round picks (top-four-protected), and Oklahoma City has top-10-protected swap rights with Houston in 2021 and 2025.
The Rockets also do not have a first-round pick in this year's NBA draft, having given it up along with center Clint Capela in the four-team deal that brought forward Robert Covington to Houston last season. Houston has limited flexibility to improve its roster, as the Rockets are pushing up against the luxury tax. Fertitta has repeatedly said he is willing to pay the tax, but the franchise has avoided it in the three seasons since Fertitta purchased the team.
"We're going to continue to be extraordinarily aggressive," Stone said Thursday in a virtual news conference to introduce Silas. "We're going to shoot for it. Whether we get there or not, I don't know, but I can guarantee you that we're going to shoot for it, and I'm really, really looking forward to it."
D'Antoni, who had a franchise-record .682 winning percentage in four seasons with the Rockets, opted not to attempt to return to Houston when his contract expired following the team's second-round playoff exit. Houston hired Silas, a first-time head coach with two decades of experience as an NBA assistant, after interviewing a wide range of candidates during the search process.
Morey, whose October 2012 trade for Harden opened a window for the Rockets to be contenders, resigned as Houston's general manager in October, citing the desire to spend more time with his family as the reason for ending his 13-year tenure as the Rockets' general manager. Less than two weeks later, Morey agreed to become the Philadelphia 76ers' president of basketball operations.
Stone, a longtime Rockets front-office employee, was promoted to general manager to replace Morey. In his first public comments since his promotion, Stone said adamantly that the Rockets planned to continue pursuing championships with Harden as the franchise centerpiece.
"For the last eight years or so, our goal has been to win a championship because we had James Harden," Stone said Thursday. "We've still got James Harden. Our goal is still to win a championship, and if you've got him, you're halfway there. It's incumbent on me and Stephen and the whole team to figure out the rest of the whole, but the key piece is there."
As the Houston Rockets navigate an offseason of major change, a new challenge is emerging for the franchise -- the uncertainty of former MVP guards James Harden and Russell Westbrook on their futures with the team, sources told ESPN.
In the wake of the departures of head coach Mike D'Antoni and general manager Daryl Morey, Harden and Westbrook have expressed concern about the direction of the franchise through direct conversations or discussions with their representatives and the Rockets' front office, sources said.
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Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta, recently promoted general manager Rafael Stone and recently hired head coach Stephen Silas have emphasized that the franchise remains committed to fielding a contender while featuring the two perennial All-Stars in their primes. However, the concerns expressed by Harden and Westbrook that Houston's window as a contender could be closing has left the organization fearful that the superstars' commitment to remaining with the Rockets could be wavering.
Although neither player has requested a trade at this point, that scenario has become a plausible eventual possibility.
Harden, 31, has been an All-Star in all eight seasons since arriving in Houston, winning MVP in 2017-18 and finishing among the top three in voting four other times in the past six years, and claiming the NBA's past three scoring titles. He is owed $131.5 million over the three seasons remaining on his maximum contract, including a $46.9 million player option in 2022-23.
Westbrook, who will turn 32 on Thursday, is also owed $131.5 million over the next three seasons and has a $46.7 million player option in 2022-23. He won the 2016-17 MVP and made his ninth All-Star appearance last season, which ended with Westbrook playing through rust and injury after rushing back from a strained right quadriceps during the first round of the playoffs.
Both stars were consulted during the Rockets' coaching search and were on board with hiring Silas, sources said.
Harden, who has said publicly several times that he hopes to play the remainder of his career in Houston, has expressed similar urgency in the past several offseasons about improving the Rockets' chances to win a championship. He remains engaged in discussions with Houston's front office about potential personnel moves this offseason, sources said.
The Rockets have aggressively chased titles during Harden's tenure by three times pairing him with another perennial All-Star -- first signing center Dwight Howard as a free agent in 2013, then trading for Chris Paul in the 2017 offseason and finally swapping Paul and a package of first-round picks for Westbrook last summer.
The Rockets advanced to the Western Conference finals in 2015 with Howard and 2018 with Paul, but those partnerships with Harden ended soon thereafter partly because of tension involving personalities and basketball philosophy, specifically regarding Harden's preference to rely on isolations offensively.
Harden pushed to make the trade for Westbrook, his childhood friend in Los Angeles and former Oklahoma City Thunder teammate, a deal that depleted Houston's draft assets. The Rockets owe the Thunder their 2024 and 2026 first-round picks (top-four-protected), and Oklahoma City has top-10-protected swap rights with Houston in 2021 and 2025.
The Rockets also do not have a first-round pick in this year's NBA draft, having given it up along with center Clint Capela in the four-team deal that brought forward Robert Covington to Houston last season. Houston has limited flexibility to improve its roster, as the Rockets are pushing up against the luxury tax. Fertitta has repeatedly said he is willing to pay the tax, but the franchise has avoided it in the three seasons since Fertitta purchased the team.
"We're going to continue to be extraordinarily aggressive," Stone said Thursday in a virtual news conference to introduce Silas. "We're going to shoot for it. Whether we get there or not, I don't know, but I can guarantee you that we're going to shoot for it, and I'm really, really looking forward to it."
D'Antoni, who had a franchise-record .682 winning percentage in four seasons with the Rockets, opted not to attempt to return to Houston when his contract expired following the team's second-round playoff exit. Houston hired Silas, a first-time head coach with two decades of experience as an NBA assistant, after interviewing a wide range of candidates during the search process.
Morey, whose October 2012 trade for Harden opened a window for the Rockets to be contenders, resigned as Houston's general manager in October, citing the desire to spend more time with his family as the reason for ending his 13-year tenure as the Rockets' general manager. Less than two weeks later, Morey agreed to become the Philadelphia 76ers' president of basketball operations.
Stone, a longtime Rockets front-office employee, was promoted to general manager to replace Morey. In his first public comments since his promotion, Stone said adamantly that the Rockets planned to continue pursuing championships with Harden as the franchise centerpiece.
"For the last eight years or so, our goal has been to win a championship because we had James Harden," Stone said Thursday. "We've still got James Harden. Our goal is still to win a championship, and if you've got him, you're halfway there. It's incumbent on me and Stephen and the whole team to figure out the rest of the whole, but the key piece is there."
Miami Heat Rumors: Is something BIG about to go down?
The Miami Heat are known for making a splash move when given the chance. Is that "chance" occurring as we speak... is something big happening?
Report: Miami Heat on James Harden’s preferred list of teams if Houston Rockets decide to blow it up
On Wednesday, it was reported that former MVP James Harden has expressed doubt about his future on the Houston Rockets. While this could be little more than smoke and mirrors, it appears that Harden does have a list of preferred teams outside of Houston.
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So the bucks transitioning Giannis to Miami this season with this jersey?
Harden or Giannis ?
What a problem to have
What a problem to have
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I don't just spout off bullsh*t. Its a stat I have heard for years.
I ain't got time to do the full research but here it is.
Basically the point is he beat all 3 in their primes and no one has that record
And also he got a winning record against MJ which to some seems to be the most important.
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against magic specific he has a winning record against him in the playoffs not regular season but I gotta confirm that one.
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so all stats added up it is accurate.
You can finish the research yourself to satisfy your curiosity.
Larry Bird 23 wins, 11 losses vs Michael Jordan.
Bird had a 67% winning percentage vs Jordan.
Isiah Thomas 36 wins, 29 losses vs Michael Jordan.
Thomas had a 55% winning percentage vs Jordan.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1_hint=Michael+Jordan&player_id1_select=Michael+Jordan&player_id1=jordami01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2_select=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2=thomais01&idx=players
1988 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-1) vs. Chicago Bulls
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) vs. Boston Celtics
1989 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference First Round (3-0) vs. Boston Celtics
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) vs. Chicago Bulls
– NBA Finals (4-0) vs. Los Angeles Lakers
1990 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) vs. Chicago Bulls
1991 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) vs. Boston Celtics
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I ain't got time to do the full research but here it is.
Basically the point is he beat all 3 in their primes and no one has that record
And also he got a winning record against MJ which to some seems to be the most important.
Michael Jordan Career Record vs. Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Kobe Bryant And Other NBA Legends
Michael Jordan was a winner, and there is no debate about that. But what is Jordan's record against some of the all-time great players in the NBA? Did Jordan
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against magic specific he has a winning record against him in the playoffs not regular season but I gotta confirm that one.
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so all stats added up it is accurate.
You can finish the research yourself to satisfy your curiosity.
Larry Bird 23 wins, 11 losses vs Michael Jordan.
Bird had a 67% winning percentage vs Jordan.
Isiah Thomas 36 wins, 29 losses vs Michael Jordan.
Thomas had a 55% winning percentage vs Jordan.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1_hint=Michael+Jordan&player_id1_select=Michael+Jordan&player_id1=jordami01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2_select=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2=thomais01&idx=players
1988 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-1) vs. Chicago Bulls
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) vs. Boston Celtics
1989 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference First Round (3-0) vs. Boston Celtics
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) vs. Chicago Bulls
– NBA Finals (4-0) vs. Los Angeles Lakers
1990 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) vs. Chicago Bulls
1991 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) vs. Boston Celtics
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I'm scared to buy a Jersey lol
I don't know who's getting shipped out
I just bought a Herro tshirt and he might not make it to the next season lol
Harden or Giannis ?
What a problem to have
Well we all know why Harden wants to come...
Hes been down here keeping the gentleman's establishments in business during the trying times of covid lol
If the heat pull the trigger they have to know that Giannis isnt coming.
I think Harden would be a better fit than Giannis really.
I think Harden would be a better fit than Giannis really.
25 vs 31. If Harden is a better fit, you change the surroundings to fit Giannis.
I don't know about Giannis and Bam together
Yeah, I don't see how someone as ball dominant as Harden is a better fit.
Another scorer. Assuming they have to trade herro, Robinson etc
I don't just spout off bullsh*t. Its a stat I have heard for years.
I ain't got time to do the full research but here it is.
Basically the point is he beat all 3 in their primes and no one has that record
And also he got a winning record against MJ which to some seems to be the most important.
Michael Jordan Career Record vs. Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Kobe Bryant And Other NBA Legends
Michael Jordan was a winner, and there is no debate about that. But what is Jordan's record against some of the all-time great players in the NBA? Did Jordan
against magic specific he has a winning record against him in the playoffs not regular season but I gotta confirm that one.
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so all stats added up it is accurate.
You can finish the research yourself to satisfy your curiosity.
Larry Bird 23 wins, 11 losses vs Michael Jordan.
Bird had a 67% winning percentage vs Jordan.
Isiah Thomas 36 wins, 29 losses vs Michael Jordan.
Thomas had a 55% winning percentage vs Jordan.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1_hint=Michael+Jordan&player_id1_select=Michael+Jordan&player_id1=jordami01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2_select=Isiah+Thomas&player_id2=thomais01&idx=players
1988 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-1) vs. Chicago Bulls
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) vs. Boston Celtics
1989 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference First Round (3-0) vs. Boston Celtics
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-2) vs. Chicago Bulls
– NBA Finals (4-0) vs. Los Angeles Lakers
1990 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Finals (4-3) vs. Chicago Bulls
1991 NBA Playoffs:
– Eastern Conference Semifinals (4-2) vs. Boston Celtics
That was real nice and we let you finish...
But as great as he was, players and fans didn’t like him because he rubbed many the wrong way. So most don’t care about his accomplishments or accolades.
Again great player, but nobody gives a shit because of him and his personality and Pistons fans are the only ones who like him
That was real nice and we let you finish...
But as great as he was, players and fans didn’t like him because he rubbed many the wrong way. So most don’t care about his accomplishments or accolades.
Again great player, but nobody gives a shit because of him and his personality and Pistons fans are the only ones who like him
These specific fans you speak of?
We dismiss those muthafukas immediately if not soon.
Cause this is grown folk talk
Take they sensitive asses to talkspace
Make sure to google for a promo code.
Hold on i got one
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You’re a Pistons fan, you’ve shown that you can’t be objective in this conversation about Isiah because you’re blinded by your fandom.
It’s not a problem, that’s just what it is.
Also grown folk can call spade a spade. If a player comes across as dirty or bitchmade, are the fans or other players “Sensitive” because they don’t like him?
Again you’re a Pistons fan, so you hear nothing that I’m saying. Which is ok.
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