NBA fans thinking contraction is nearing, think again. As many as 6 new teams coming!

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As I may have mentioned before, I do some freelance work for NBATV and there has been some interesting banter going on. The owners taking a hard stance on the players is aimed at the correcting the financial system of the NBA, yet the owners lost a lot of money the past five years and are dead set on recouping that money. Their plan has multiple layers.

The owners plan on recouping major money by slashing revenue sharing from the players from 57% to 48% a change of about 400 million or about 13 million per team per year.

Next the NBA is seeking a 20-30 percent overall cut in salaries. A total of about 540 million or 18 million per team. The NBA is also seeking a hard cap of about 45 million, then average NBA payroll is about approximately 64 million (7 million of the soft cap) saving owners an immediate 19 million per team on average.

If they get their way the owners will add about 50 million in value to their teams. When considering the future salary (4 year max contracts w/ two years guaranteed) and roster restrictions (12 players max) the owners are seeking to stabilize the financial landscape for the long term.

Apparently this is not enough! The current owners are also looking to add an additional 2.1 billion to the value of their franchises (70 million a piece) by adding 6 new franchises to the NBA.

The 9 likely locations are as follows:
Sacramento- The Maloofs jumped the gun early in their rush to Anaheim's prime location as to take it away from the new franchises. This is the fastest relocation we've seen in sports with this taking place in a matter of 7 months (beginning in Sept. and finishing next month).

This week, Sacramento is still went ahead w/ a plan to build a new arena as they know they have a prime location with a history of supporting a NBA team and (as OKC has proved) the NBA is successful when they are the only team in town.

Louisville- As unlikely as it sounds Louisville is a prime destination for a new team. They have a lot of items going for them as well. They were leading in the race to land Memphis until the city council could not approve a new stadium in time to satisfy the NBA. They still have interest from the corporate sponsors that they lined up then. Since this 2003 Louisville built a downtown NBA ready stadium. Like the Jazz, Spurs, Thunder, Magic, Grizzlies, Trailblazers and formerly the Kings, they will be the only team in town. Louisville also has a pro basketball history as successful ABA franchise location.

The University of Louisville sensed the NBA coming and has strengthened its lease with the KFC Yum arena. A new team will have to fork over a lot money to amend the lease. Until that can be accomplished the Kentucky state board has agreed to put in 100 million into temporary renovations to Freedom Hall and has agreed to not book any any events from Nov. 2011 thru Apr. 2012 to leave it open for an NBA team. This move tells me that Louisville more interested in attracting a relocating team, maybe New Orleans.

http://arenadigest.com/201012093155/basketball/nba-basketball/louisville-making-play-for-nba-team

http://www.iamagm.com/news/2010/12/17/louisville.arena.agrees.not.book.events.case.nba.relocation

Kansas City- Kansas City has a beautiful new NBA ready arena. The state is basketball crazy and they have NBA lineage. Kansas City has some major roadblocks though. They do not have singular ownership group interested in buying an NBA team. Secondly, they are not the only team in town and may be too small of a market to compete with the Chiefs and Royals.

They do have the AEG group and the sporting club (owners KC's MLS team). They key to the KC is the Sprint Center which is the newest, empty NBA ready sports facility. The allure of the arena is so strong as it is currently a better venue than 10 current NBA arenas and without an anchor franchise is the 5th busiest venue in the country. If the AEG group (which has plans to build a new NFL stadium in LA) adds an NBA team to their arena, the additional 51 playoff and regular season events could make the venue the busiest in the country.

http://www.knssradio.com/2010/12/07/wichitakansas/Sports--NBA-Team-Eyes-Kansas-City/8728291

Seattle- The NBA left the Seattle Supersonics name their for a reason. Seattle is a great place for the NBA. They had a strong tradition of supporting the sonics. The NBA loves the town but could not get a new stadium. Seattle thought David Stern was bluffing when he said the Sonics would leave town if they could not get a new stadium. They were wrong. Fans are clamoring for the NBA to return but the same roadblock exists. Seattle has to build a new stadium.

Seattle has something very few locations have, a dozen interested ownership groups with the resources to buy the team and maintain it until they can remodel KeyArena or convince officials to build a new stadium. The thing, Seattle would have built the Sonics a new stadium had Stern not insulted the city officials. They had just built new stadiums for the Mariners and Seahawks but Stern wanted them to move faster.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2013650482_kelley12.html

Vancouver- One of the major misconceptions is that Vancouver did not support the Grizzlies. This is far from the truth. The lack of success of the NBA in Vancouver was front-office mismanagement and player apathy towards the town. The Grizzlies were run horribly and they made horrendous personal decisions that made the team unwatchable. They consistently took bad players over obviously better talent:
95- Big Country over Damon Stoudemire and Michael Finley
96- Abdur-Rahim over Ray Allen, Kobe & Vancouver native Steve Nash
97- Antonio Daniels over T-Mac (declined to trade the #4 to Chi for Pippen)
98- Bibby over Jamison, Vince, Dirk & P. Pierce. Passed on R. Lewis at 31
99- Allowed Francis to force a trade before the season for essentially nothing
00- Bad draft but Stromile Swift was the worst of the early lotto picks
01- Good draft picked Gasol and Battier but left town the next year

When the Grizzlies did make correct personnel choices, players requested to be traded, would not work out with or flat out refused to play in the city (Steve Francis, Lamar Odom, Mike Bibby).

Vancouver has emerged as a cosmopolitan city in the past ten years and with the exception of the Canucks, the NBA would be the only city in town.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...d-the-NBA-return-to-Vancouver-?urn=nba-322981

Virginia (Tidewater or Richmond)- The NBA would absolutely love to get into Virginia. Not only would the NBA be the only game in town, they'd be the only major professional franchise in the state. The NBA loves the VA fans. They travel to DC and Charlotte to attend games. VA also has two million plus metro areas along with a decent pool of potential corporate sponsors.

The problem is that VA is uncharted territory for a contemporary sports franchise. There are not any NBA ready stadiums and minor league baseball has has problems with officials (the Richmond Braves moved to GA). Also, where do you play? Richmond is a central location but tidewater has more residents. VA is less likely of the options to land a team unless a tremendous amount of local and corporate support emerges.

New Jersey- LA will have three teams next year and the belief is that the NY area can support three as well. NJ will be a turnkey location as the state has two NBA ready stadiums (E. Rutherford and Newark) and a long tradition of professional basketball.

Corporate support exists and NJ has always supported a winning team. NJ will be a strong option IF the owners get a really good CBA deal.

St. Louis- St. Louis has an NBA ready arena (Scott Trade Center) and pro basketball tradition. Despite the small market, St. Louis fans are sports crazy and really support their current teams. Also, Southern Illinois is emerging and has several new corporate organizations in the area that would more identify with St. Louis than Chicago teams.

Pittsburgh- Pittsburgh is a long-shot and the idea would depend on the NBA getting a strong CBA deal. Pittsburgh has fanatical fans and although the Pirates don't draw well, they are actually profitable. The thing is the Pirates suck. When the team is successful, Pittsburgh will support, the Penguins and Steelers are examples. The city also has a NBA ready staduim.

Long shots:
Las Vegas- The NBA would have been in Vegas if the economy had not taken a downturn. They would have been the only game in town and NBA games are perfect for corporate business and Vegas is still a huge convention town. As the economy turns, Vegas will be an option again in the future.

New Orleans- The Hornets will certainly relocate as soon as a new owner buys the team. The NBA will not sell the team until a new CBA is in place. The key to NO is its future potential. The NBA is not successful in NO as Katrina has devastated the fan base. This is a blessing in disguise for whoever wants to buy a team and relocate it to NO as the city will be completely gentrified with a much more affluent fan base.

NO is still a huge tourism and convention destination and the US Govt., LA & NO are giving incredible deals companies looking to establish headquarters in NO. It may take a decade or two but the environment perfect for an NBA in the Big Easy.

Chicago- Chicago fans are die hard Bulls fans and the team had tremendous fan support during the horrid years after Jordan (they never finished outside of the top 3 and was 1st in attendance often).

The Orlando Magic and Vancouver Grizzlies were very close to landing in Chicago but Jerry Reinsdorf blocked those moves. Due to this Memphis owner Michael Heisley has forbade his team from making any deals Chicago (see Pau Gasol and OJ Mayo).

The NBA knows that there is a tremendous opportunity for a NBA franchise in the North of the city or northern suburbs. The North Siders support a perpetually awful Chicago Cubs and, as evidenced last week in Milwaukee, their influence stretches as far North as southern Wisconsin where many of the wealthier Chicagoans move to retire. The majority of the areas wealth is on the north side of town and in the northern suburbs. Bulls and Blackhawk fans hate traveling through traffic to the Westside to the United Center.

The Nets moving to Brooklyn and the Kings moving to Anaheim has removed restrictions on proximity that the NBA once had and many wealthy Chicago tycoons would love to invade Reinsdorf's territory as they simply dont like him. Also, retiring mayor Richard Daley is no longer in charge and therefore is not in place to protect his good friend Jerry Reinsdorf. Chicago also has a second NBA ready stadium in All-State Arena (with 20,000 basketball seats and 48 suites) that can be a temporary home until a new team can build a new stadium in the northern suburbs (likely in Skokie).

It would be an intital struggle but Chicago is ripe for a second NBA team.

http://chicago.sbnation.com/chicago...nba-team-in-chicago-bulls-new-orleans-hornets

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/12/06/hornets.sale/index.html

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2010/12/07/bernstein-is-a-second-nba-team-coming-to-chicago/


With that said. All of this is predicated on the owners getting a very advantageous CBA, which is possible considering the leverage they now have over the players. If the owners get their way, it will be much less expensive for teams to operate, most importantly, small markets (all of the above) will have a much better chance of keeping high profile players.

Are you all ready for a 36 team NBA?
 
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Are you all ready for a 36 team NBA?

reading now but hell naw.... shit is watered down as it is....need to contract by two not add teams..
 
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They will NOT build a new arena in Sacramento.
 
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Add more teams so more bums can be 1 and done in college and hop to the NBA not with the aspiration to get better but just to get money and be satisfied with not winning but get to say that they're in the NBA?

:cmonson:
 
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The type of people who will move to New Orleans and gentrify it in the future probably will care less about Basketball than the people currently living here do now.



Who wrote this shit?
 
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Just as a point of clarification, the players split is 51%. IIRC the total amount that's being spent past the 56 million cap brings the split to 57%
 
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talent pool is not there......

did yall look at the tournament?????
 
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:eek:
Add more teams so more bums can be 1 and done in college and hop to the NBA not with the aspiration to get better but just to get money and be satisfied with not winning but get to say that they're in the NBA?

:cmonson:

If anything, the league needs to get rid of Memphis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, and Charlotte.

:thumbsup:
 
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6 more teams? :lol: Sheeeeed, that would be the most watered down shit ever...Lebron would be goin for 60 pts against expansion teams..HELL NAWL!!
 
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:smh::smh::smh:
 
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I'll knock two of these out right now:

Chicago

Allstate Arena/Rosemont Horizon has seen it's best days and is now an old, antique relic of an arena. On top of that, it would be a ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE to get in and out of for a 7pm game when you have to deal with rush hour and O'Hare traffic.

Now, the main reason to knock this one out? Chicago is a DIEHARD BULLS town (as well as a good part of Northern Indiana and Southern Wisconsin). A new team would be as popular as a blizzard on opening day of baseball season in Chicago. Shit would be an epic fail.


Kansas City

Had a team once before and lost them to SacTown. KC THINKS it's an NBA city, and they will support a team....until they start losing, then everyone will go right back to following KU (University of Kansas) or Mizzou (University of Missouri) or K-State (Kansas State University) and say fuck going to an overpriced NBA game. The Sprint Center IS nice, but KC is not an NBA town.



If anything, the league needs to get rid of Memphis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, and Charlotte.


Milwaukee has history and Charlotte is a basketball city.
 
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Virginia (Tidewater or Richmond)- The NBA would absolutely love to get into Virginia. Not only would the NBA be the only game in town, they'd be the only major professional franchise in the state. The NBA loves the VA fans. They travel to DC and Charlotte to attend games. VA also has two million plus metro areas along with a decent pool of potential corporate sponsors.

Don't be playing with my emotions nigga! :hmm:
 
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Fucking wack...
 
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I'll knock two of these out right now:

Chicago

Allstate Arena/Rosemont Horizon has seen it's best days and is now an old, antique relic of an arena. On top of that, it would be a ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE to get in and out of for a 7pm game when you have to deal with rush hour and O'Hare traffic.

Now, the main reason to knock this one out? Chicago is a DIEHARD BULLS town (as well as a good part of Northern Indiana and Southern Wisconsin). A new team would be as popular as a blizzard on opening day of baseball season in Chicago. Shit would be an epic fail.


Kansas City

Had a team once before and lost them to SacTown. KC THINKS it's an NBA city, and they will support a team....until they start losing, then everyone will go right back to following KU (University of Kansas) or Mizzou (University of Missouri) or K-State (Kansas State University) and say fuck going to an overpriced NBA game. The Sprint Center IS nice, but KC is not an NBA town.



If anything, the league needs to get rid of Memphis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, and Charlotte.


New Jersey

They don't support the Nets now. You couldn't get fans to fill the arena when Kidd had them in the Finals. E. Rutherford or Newark, doesn't matter NJ is not a likely spot for an NBA franchise once the Nets leave.
 
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Please no, the league to me is god awful... please do not water it down anymore. Then again I might be able to make a team:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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Where are those basketball heads who are always in every long basketball discussion?
 
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I'll knock two of these out right now:

Chicago

Allstate Arena/Rosemont Horizon has seen it's best days and is now an old, antique relic of an arena. On top of that, it would be a ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE to get in and out of for a 7pm game when you have to deal with rush hour and O'Hare traffic.

Now, the main reason to knock this one out? Chicago is a DIEHARD BULLS town (as well as a good part of Northern Indiana and Southern Wisconsin). A new team would be as popular as a blizzard on opening day of baseball season in Chicago. Shit would be an epic fail.


Kansas City

Had a team once before and lost them to SacTown. KC THINKS it's an NBA city, and they will support a team....until they start losing, then everyone will go right back to following KU (University of Kansas) or Mizzou (University of Missouri) or K-State (Kansas State University) and say fuck going to an overpriced NBA game. The Sprint Center IS nice, but KC is not an NBA town.



If anything, the league needs to get rid of Memphis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, and Charlotte.

Charlotte my ass nigga. They have no problem filling them seats at Bobcats Arena even tho the team lacks a star player.. Charlotte is the perfect spot for an NBA team. If anything North Carolina needs another team up near the Raleigh/Durham area.
 
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TheFish_Pittsburgh.jpg
:cool::lol::lol::lol:
 
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I hope they don't.
 
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Damn no Bmore LMAO
 
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More teams = more boring
 
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I'd like to know what "sources" you got that gets you to say the NBA would expand, cause NONE of that makes sense... There are a few teams that can't even make it as is, and the league is bad enough, but to add even MORE teams, c'mon.... First, where is SAC going to get the money to build a new stadium, not from the city, and not from the state, so your telling me the owners will fork over all the money? Next, that many new teams, where the fuck you going to find the talent to fill all of them? The league barely makes it as is with talent, so we going to see more D league types, more god awful teams like the CAVS? And that makes sense? Nope, the league is bad enough as it is, and the NBA probably wants to lose some teams, NOT expand...
 
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Pittsburgh????????? :roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3:


Who wrote this? Pittsburgh will never support Basketball


Its Football

Hockey

Baseball

Soccer


Basketball CACS dont watch Bball here
 
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Charlotte my ass nigga. There have no problem filling them seats at Bobcats Arena even tho the team lacks a star player.. Charlotte is the perfect spot for an NBA team. If anything North Carolina needs another team up near the Raleigh/Durham area.

Ok, replace Charlotte with Minnesota then.
 
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reading now but hell naw.... shit is watered down as it is....need to contract by two not add teams..

:yes::yes::yes:

How in the hell is the NBA gonna go from needing 1/3 of its teams to be bailed out to expansion? That would also severely dilute the product even if they did it over 20 years or so.
 
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The NBA needs to relocate and realign teams not add more.

Move the Grizzlies to Seattle and to the Northwest division
Move OKC to the Midwest division.
Move The Hornets to St. Louis or Kansas City

Move The Kings to Las Vegas
 
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I saw on PTI last week that Stern stated that he wanted an NBA team in England in the next decade, so NBA expansion to Europe is more likely than adding more teams in the U.S.
 
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I saw on PTI last week that Stern stated that he wanted an NBA team in England in the next decade, so NBA expansion to Europe is more likely than adding more teams in the U.S.
How realistic is it to have an NBA team in Europe though? I mean, with travel and all, there would have to be a whole new European Division with 4 or 5 teams playing throughout the EU. Putting one team in England would be ridiculous, who would want to travel across the Atlantic on a regular basis?
 
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I call Bullshit wait for the off season if you think the NFL is bad the Nba may lose a whole season.
 
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How realistic is it to have an NBA team in Europe though? I mean, with travel and all, there would have to be a whole new European Division with 4 or 5 teams playing throughout the EU. Putting one team in England would be ridiculous, who would want to travel across the Atlantic on a regular basis?

It seems for the last decade Stern has been itching to expand overseas. The NBA played regular season games in England for the first time this season and I don't know how successful those were, but it they were successful it would be probably be all the incentive the owners and Stern need since they would get a ton of money in expansion fees.
 
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It seems for the last decade Stern has been itching to expand overseas. The NBA played regular season games in England for the first time this season and I don't know how successful those were, but it they were successful it would be probably be all the incentive the owners and Stern need since they would get a ton of money in expansion fees.
True, but once the novelty wears off, will it be successful? I understand unlike the World Football League/NFL Europe this will be the highest level of Pro Ball (NBA) however, is Basketball that big in England? I could see them doing a NBA Europe league, but to have regular NBA teams in Europe just seems like it wouldn't work.
 
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Pittsburgh????????? :roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3::roflmao3:


Who wrote this? Pittsburgh will never support Basketball


Its Football

Hockey

Baseball

Soccer


Basketball CACS dont watch Bball here

Dude the day Pittsburgh gets a BBall team, Columbus Ohio will get one. and that'll be the coldest day in hell. Like dude stated there are too many other sports they are die hard into, and if they ever do get a team once the L's pile up the fans will fall back to what they know, other sports
 
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