My feedback on Fiasco's new album.
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I can most definately agree with this statement.I can respect that.
BUT
In my opinion Freeway has the Album Of The Year hands down.
I've never listened to Lupe before and YES, I think the album is trash BUT, I did hear it, but I didn't really LISTEN to it. If you follow what I'm gettin at. I think he is a throwback artist who is hella lyrical, he just got some bullshit beats.
preach brotherWhich is a travesty within itself.
He has the right to not vibe with the Tribe if he chooses to...but how in the hell do you accept the task of honoring & spittin' lyrics from kats you don't funk with.
AgreeThe production killed it for me. Alot of the beats sounded dumb as shit and the hottest beat on the whole album was a dedication(Track 2). Yo I'm listening it to like "yo lupe about to kill it!" and this nigga don't even spit over it..what a waste, shit was a let down forrealz. Lyrics was on point but he was all over the fuckin place on the album. Oh did I say the production was trash?
Agree
i fuccs wit his first joint. aint had a chance to check out da second joint. but i heard its tight. i fuccs wit 'em cuz he on some diff shit. not tryin to be like erione else
CO-Sign.
Lupe,Ghostface,and Scarface albums are greats starts for 2008...All buyable albums...
This ALbum is FIYAH! Period. Liberating and just, sick. Just as his first. You dun lost ya mind. Hip Hop was hot fuckin garbage, not even worth listenin. THis dude's style is fire and he's dropping lyrical bombs that u wont hear, cuz u cant comprehend. You basically cant hear him, cuz u cant reflect on whant u dont know. THat kindergarten music Lil wayne and family garbage iz thus perfect for u. As for me, that kindergarten rhymin dont even stimulate the mind, let alone the ears.
Everyone I know listenin to Fiasco.
But to each his own.
Everyone I know listenin to Fiasco.
But to each his own.
Yeah yeah, what he said.
But anyway this is the story behind his partner Chilly.
I bet you didn't figure Lupe was moving them ki's. So now Lupe has street
creed too.
[FLASH]http://youtube.com/watch/v/pWHBFgho9BM&feature=related[/FLASH]
That's retarded. I'm from the Midwest and the exact same age that Lupe is, and I'm tellin' you that when we were pre-teens in that era Spice 1, Scarface, Snoop, Dre, Ice Cube, Too Short and niggaz like that were what was banged in every car in the hood. I've never even heard a whole "Tribe" album until this whole controversy, but this is once again the East Coast making their people way, way more important than they were to everybody else. Naughty By Nature had more nationwide appeal than they did. In that era.
This is exactly what the whole East Coast/ West Coast thing was about.
A Tribe Called Quest are important, just not as y'all want to make them out to be.
I'm 28 and was born and raised on the West Side, ...60644...Jackson & Pulaski. I bumped that shit. But I aint Lupe, I'm just a fan. I aint a professional rapper spittin soft rhymes in the vein of Native Tongues. You tell me Lil' Wayne never heard tribe...that makes sense. How I'ma come out singing country music then get defensive when folks ask how the fuck I never heard a Garth Brooks record? Still, for Lupe not to have heard MM --aight, but THEN for him to act like he aint give a fuck, and be indignant about that piss poor performance that resulted....dude fucked up and then tried to dodge his lumps when he should have took it like man.
And how the fuck is this Lupe who grew up on 8ball & Face in 94, the same Lupe who was offended by Jay Z's music and stayed in the crib under the block clubs protection?
Somethin fishy about this Lupe...I mean who the fuck was/is Kick, Pushin it on the westside?
This always happens with artists. A lot of artists end up sounding like people they didn't grow up on. I'm willing to bet if you were to ask a bunch of dudes who are supposedly "conscious", they grew up on NWA, Ice Cube, Ice-T, and hell, even Hammer. Those guys were just more popular, when we were kids than Tribe was. And if you're from Chicago, then I'd like you to tell me when 106 Jamz and WGCI ever played A TRibe Called Quest as much as they did Dre, Snoop, Pac, Biggie, Ice Cube, and people like that. Maybe on the late night Hip-Hop show they might have, but I remember tons of Southern and West Coast mainstream Hip-Hop on all-day. Those stations didn't even really play shit from Nas' Illmatic. They liked Biggie because he made club songs. Tribe were not the mainstream radio friendly group they're making them out to be.
That just happens. In my opinion, Lupe is just as hood as Jay,50, or anybody else. The difference is that he just represents all of us that didn't do, sell, or join gangs and shit. I listen to his records, and I don't hear, "Midnight Mauraders" or "Low End Theory". I hear straight Midwest hip-hop, which has always been about being regular dudes, as opposed to The East Coast guys wanting to be Mafioso, and the West wanting to gangbang, and the South's gumbo-funk.
I KNOW THAT I AM LATE.....BUT I JUST LISTENED TO THE ALBUM FOR THE 1ST TIME.
I FEEL YOU..........BUT I LIKE THE ALBUM.
ITS COOL..........IT JUST ISN'T GREAT.
I AM MATURE...AND LIKE "ALTERNATIVE HIP-HOP" BUT DUDE JUST ISN'T SKILLED ENOUGH.
I THINK MOST FOLKS JUMP ON HIS DICK HARD JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT HE "REPRESENTS" AND NOT THE ACTUAL PRODUCT HE DELIVERS.
LUPE SUFFERS FROM THE SAME SYNDROME THAT SLUM VILLAGE SUFFERED FROM..........GREAT CONCEPT..........SUBPAR DELIVERY. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE NEXT TRIBE CALLED QUEST!!!!!
ITS THE CONCEPT YOU WANT TO LOVE........BUT THE CAT(S) JUST AREN'T SKILLED ENOUGH TO PULL IT OFF.
BY THE WAY LUPE'S PRODUCTION VALUE IS REALLY SUBPAR...........IF YOU GOING TO BE HEAVY LYRICAL... THEN YOUR PRODUCTION HAS TO BE OUTSTANDING!!! SEE NAS FOR PROOF.
If people can't feel this album, we're in trouble......
Yeah, fa real...
After listening to this album I erased all gangsta bullshit from my collection....
Why the fuck ya'll acting like this album is hip hop's savior or some shit? I mean its a good album lyrically but doesn't deliver as a complete album.
1.Production is weak as FUCK
2.Too much emo singing on it(alot of the singing is off-key with the beat)
3. Alot of songs were concept songs, the others were just there as filler.
I mean it's growing on me but I was expecting more of a "Pressure" or "Failure" type Lupe Fiasco than the one on The Cool. Just not used to his rhyme scheme throughout the album.
MM3 > The Cool, if you REALLY want to be real.
1.Production is weak as FUCK
2.Too much emo singing on it(alot of the singing is off-key with the beat)
3. Alot of songs were concept songs, the others were just there as filler.
I mean it's growing on me but I was expecting more of a "Pressure" or "Failure" type Lupe Fiasco than the one on The Cool. Just not used to his rhyme scheme throughout the album.
MM3 > The Cool, if you REALLY want to be real.
Yess, you hit the nail on the head. The direction on this LP is everywhere. I think he tried to cover too many areas/styles to appeal to the masses instead of concentrating on the sound that got him acclaim in the first place.
His 1st CD was a breath of fresh air (dare I not say CLASSIC). 'The Cool' is sort of a let down for me; it's a nice LP but a drop off.
The production on the record is great in my opinion. It's cinematic. It's musical, like the New Wu-Tang record that everybody hates. It's not what people would typically call "Rap production" with obvious samples, and bass booming, and shit like that, and it's not Timberland, The Neptunes or shit like that. It's not obvious production, meant to be bumped in the club or something.
I don't personally care what the guy "symbolizes". I think there may be few people out there that depend on one guy to "save" Hip-Hop, but to me, it's a record with about 17 good songs on it to me, when I can't remember the last time I can remember liking 17 songs on one record
I don't personally care what the guy "symbolizes". I think there may be few people out there that depend on one guy to "save" Hip-Hop, but to me, it's a record with about 17 good songs on it to me, when I can't remember the last time I can remember liking 17 songs on one record
Nothing more needs to be said
If you're not feeling this joint (even a little bit), just go ahead and download something else you can understand
Like Souljaboy or something
He was on 106 and Park today and you could tell most of those kids had probably never even listened to no more than 2 of his songs
It might not be as good as his last album, but it's still hot
His mixtapes are still better than any of his albums
Dumb it down contains the poorest display of breath control I have ever heard from any MC.
Jay-Z's style is mimicked throughout the whole track.
The hooks were the dopest part of that joint.
I challenge you all to listen to it again and tell me I'm wrong.
Listening as I type...
You're wrong.
Breath control doesn't even factor into this track...
Soooo....what are you talking about?
I gotta assume that you never really listened to Native Tongues....cuz all Tribe or De La EVER rapped about was "being regular dudes."
I have De La Soul's records, but as a region that's not what New York Hip-Hop has been overall. Melle Mel was a rap "He-Man". LL Cool J was the "ladies man/tough guy" KRS/PE were the "revolutionaries". Then Biggie, Jay, Puffy took it to the "swagger" route, being influenced by Kane and Slick Rick. That's New York overall, not everybody, but most of what has been influential from New York.
The Midwest however has always and mostly been about regular guys. Dudes like Common, Breed, and Lupe, and even somebody like Twista are like normal guys. Not particularly "cool" or supermen. Just niggaz from the hood.
I know... but it seemed like you were drawing a distinction between Lupe's approach and that of Native Tongues (ATCQ specifically) rather than between Lupe & NY.
Man bumping this cd passing it on to friends getting them to buy it.. from the old lady at work to the 35 year old fat white guy... this dude is bringing alot of gems... and I for one love the album. You got to listen to more than beats.. and even then the production is amazing. It's not a everyday average hip hop album. And lol who the hell is paying attention to how a rap album is put together and its direction. This album's direction doesn't throw you off as bad as 98 percent of the shit out there now. Fighters.... Hip hop saved me.. Little weapon... Come on people those are gems... nuff said.
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Who is that anyway?
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