My ACA/Obamacare Experience...

Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

Like something so monumental will not have problems on it's launch.

You had less concern about government incompetence, in fact I can't even find one criticism on this board from you about Katrina and the Bush wars during the Bush years, which fundamentally changed the economy for the worse for the foreseeable future.

A month in to a web site roll out and you and the Tea Party (one in the same) have more negativity for it than you of your hypocritical Tea Party member's drug bust.

How convenient!
Was I posting with any relevant frequency during Katrina? Since you've reviewed my history, you let me know.

I've said more than once in other threads and specifically in this thread, it's a bad law. It's not about the implementation. This thread is called Obamacare experience not Obamacare website experience.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

How come it was not reported that her health insurance premiums are tax deductible?
That's not something new or unique to ACA so why would it be reported. Also, how does the tax deductibility of her premium help her pay for it in January or the rest of the 2014 year?

Why did she not disclose what percentage of her income is going to health insurance premiums?
Why do care about the budgetary aspects of someone who doesn't qualify for subsidies, but you're not calling for fiscal review of the tens of million of people expected to actually take taxpayer money?

Personally, I would love to go over people's finances if they want subsidies but I'm in the minority.

I want people to get the facts instead of being mislead by corporate media with half truths. I think the law increases capitalism in the insurance market by increasing choice and is the reason I support it. Previously, you had one or two health insurance companies that were posing as faux capitalism with a board of directors, shareholders, and the appearance of independent ownership from the government. Yeah the government did not run them, but they resembled a state run enterprise out of China, Cuba, or North Korea.

The ACA beautifully balances power so that government and the private sector do not have complete control of our health care decisions.
It's fine if you think the ACA increases capitalism, but you'd be wrong. The ACA increases choice between insurers, in theory, but it limits choice regarding what your plan can look like.

If you think that's beautiful then your perception is distorted.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

Was I posting with any relevant frequency during Katrina? Since you've reviewed my history, you let me know.

I've said more than once in other threads and specifically in this thread, it's a bad law. It's not about the implementation. This thread is called Obamacare experience not Obamacare website experience.

I didn't say you didn't post with relevant frequency, I said I didn't see any criticisms of GW.

It's a good law that needs to be perfected, just like the Social Security Act of 1935 has been and will be.

You, like the right have not laid out any detailed alternative to the issue of the uninsured.

It's easy to be against something, that's in the Rights nature, but what are you for?
 
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source: Daily Kos

Boehner Sabotages Own ACA Enrollment - Places Official Helper on Hold for 35 Minutes


On Thursday, Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) blogged about his attempts to sign up for ObamaCare:

Earlier this afternoon, I sat down to try and enroll in the DC exchange under the president’s health care law:
Like many Americans, my experience was pretty frustrating. After putting in my personal information, I received an error message. I was able to work past that, but when I went to actually sign up for coverage, I got this “internal server error” screen:...
Blah blah blah. It now turns out that at one point during this enrollment attempt, he placed an official Healthcare marketplace representative on hold...for 35 minutes. From Talking Points Memo:

Actually, it turns out he had successfully enrolled and got a call confirming that about an hour after his tweet. But it gets better.
According to Scott MacFarlane, a reporter for the local NBC affiliate in Washington, reports that a DC Health Care exchange representative actually tried to contact Boehner by phone during the enrollment process but was put on hold for 35 minutes, after which time the representative finally hung up.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/...



I don't think one can get much more fraudulent than that - what a smug fool to think he wouldn't get busted!
Let's make sure voters remember this sad, desperate ploy when they go to the polls in 2014.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

I didn't say you didn't post with relevant frequency, I said I didn't see any criticisms of GW.
So why bring up what you didn't see me post specifically if you know I wasn't posting much at all anyway. There are obviously a lot of topics I didn't post about.

It's a good law that needs to be perfected, just like the Social Security Act of 1935 has been and will be.
It's a bad law for the exact same reasons you think it's a good law.

You, like the right have not laid out any detailed alternative to the issue of the uninsured.

It's easy to be against something, that's in the Rights nature, but what are you for?
I'm for the opposite of what you value as a good. I'm for trusting people with their own healthcare decisions and treating health insurance as actual insurance.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

So why bring up what you didn't see me post specifically if you know I wasn't posting much at all anyway. There are obviously a lot of topics I didn't post about.


It's a bad law for the exact same reasons you think it's a good law.


I'm for the opposite of what you value as a good. I'm for trusting people with their own healthcare decisions and treating health insurance as actual insurance.

Because what you posted was avoiding the obvious.

Espically when they have no health care to decide upon.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

Because what you posted was avoiding the obvious.

Espically when they have no health care to decide upon.
Sure thoughtone, keep pretending like the only people affected by ACA are the uninsured.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

Sure thoughtone, keep pretending like the only people affected by ACA are the uninsured.


...and you keep pretending that the uninsured going to Emergency Rooms and not being able to pay doesn't affect everyone.
 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

...and you keep pretending that the uninsured going to Emergency Rooms and not being able to pay doesn't affect everyone.

:yes: :yes: :yes: . . . or, anyone.

 
Re: Woman cited by President as Obamacare success story frustrated by sign up process

...and you keep pretending that the ACA only addressed that...


...or that.

I see no alternative form the The Baggers.
 
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The Obamacare ‘Shotgun Wedding’—Marry or Lose Your Home

The Obamacare ‘Shotgun Wedding’—Marry or Lose Your Home
By Edward Morrissey | The Fiscal Times
Thu, Dec 19, 2013

The problem with solutions is that few of them tend to be perfect, even if they act in a mostly benign manner. Actions produce reactions, a principle as true in politics as it is in physics, and those tend to multiply when solutions increase in complexity.

The nature of these unintended consequences changes dramatically when complex “solutions” turn out to be poorly designed and incompetently administered.

The rollout of the Affordable Care Act has provided many real-world examples of this, but perhaps none so “unintended” as the consequences discovered by the Seattle Times this weekend. Carol Ostrom, The Times’ health reporter, told the story of 62-year-old newlyweds Sofia Prins and Gary Balhorn, who weren’t exactly the models of wild, starry-eyed romantics.

Their nuptials were motivated by a stronger desire to keep their house out of the hands of the federal government, thanks to a little-known key provision of Obamacare. Their meager incomes made them eligible for a federally subsidized health plan, and their assets would be protected.

Does Obamacare actually allow the federal government to seize homes and other assets? Before answering that question, let’s go back to what supposedly motivated the Obama administration and Democrats to pass the ACA in the first place.

For years, Democrats had demanded federal action to address the problem of Americans without health insurance coverage. Estimates of this population went from 14 million to 40 million during the debate in 2009-10 over the scope of the crisis and potential solutions for it.

While those numbers sound large, a Gallup poll in late 2009 put them in better perspective, noting that 85 percent of American adults had health insurance, 87 percent of whom were satisfied with their coverage, and 61 percent satisfied with the costs. Even among the uninsured, half were satisfied with their situation, although only 27 percent expressed satisfaction about their costs for health care.

Instead of designing a solution that focused on the half of the 15 percent who needed better options and leaving everyone else alone, Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats on Capitol Hill insisted on imposing an overhaul of the entire health-insurance industry. This includes, crucially, an unprecedented individual mandate to carry health-insurance coverage. The ACA contains a highly-complex series of subsidies that help working-class Americans pay the now-skyrocketing premiums caused by coverage mandates on insurers, but only down to a certain income level.

Below that point, Americans who do not have employer-based coverage have to accept Medicaid coverage in order to comply with the Obamacare individual mandate, or pay full price for the skyrocketing premiums from private-sector insurers.

People often confuse Medicaid with Medicare, but there is a critical difference between the two programs. Medicare eligibility derives from Social Security contributions, and is a true “entitlement” program. Theoretically, coverage comes as part of the funds paid into the system, although in reality the federal government has to borrow billions of dollars to cover the costs.

Medicaid, on the other hand, is a state-based and federally-subsidized welfare program, one that employs means-testing – which includes ownership of assets as well as income levels. Medicaid programs include conditions that put recipients’ assets remaining after death at risk for seizure to reimburse taxpayers who footed the bill for the recipient’s health care during his/her lifetime.

This was done to prevent fraud, to ensure that limited resources went to the truly needy, and to recapture resources to cover future costs. Until now, though, Medicaid was a voluntary program, and the vast majority of people who entered into it had few assets to risk by signing up.

Here’s where the law of unintended consequences comes into Obamacare. Thanks to the exchange programming, consumers are getting enrolled in Medicaid whether they understand what that means or not, and in much greater numbers than before. (In the first month, nearly 90 percent of all the enrollees in the federal and state exchanges were Medicaid applicants.)

Unless they look at the fine print in the paperwork in Washington and other states with similar asset-forfeiture regulations, any assets they own will not pass to their heirs but to the state instead.

Prins and Balhorn are hardly alone in Washington. Adults between the ages of 50-64 account for 18 percent of the enrollments in the state’s Apple Health Medicaid program, and the seizure regulations apply in their cases for those 55 and older. The state exchange uses only income levels to means-test Washington applicants for the program, which means most of them will have no idea that their assets are at risk until it’s too late.

“People will think this is wonderful, this is free insurance,” Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, said in an interview. “They don’t realize it’s really a loan, and is secured by any property they have.”

That’s one of the problems of Obamacare itself – the perception that it’s a free lunch. Even those who do qualify for subsidies get that only through the collection of a myriad of taxes imposed by Obamacare. Those taxes apply to employers, insurers, and medical-device manufacturers, which drive up the costs for consumers and workers in indirect ways. It’s a shell game--not a reform that actually drives costs down. Instead Obamacare only masks price increases through dishonest opacity.

The problem here is the arrogance of the solution itself. Had the Obama administration focused on just those who could not get coverage because of income or pre-existing conditions, they could have expanded Medicaid in an intelligent manner while protecting existing assets, without disrupting the rest of the market.

That might still have been controversial and would not have been cost-free by any means, but it would not have fatally undermined a system that worked for 85 percent of Americans and misled many of the rest into risking their estates without any warning that government would strip their heirs of family homes.

Targeted and modest solutions minimize unintended consequences, and allow for more speed and efficiency when they do arise. Obamacare will serve for decades as the cautionary tale when arrogance rules over modesty and common sense.

http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-shotgun-wedding-marry-lose-091500078.html
 
What You Need to Know About Tonight's Obamacare Deadline

What You Need to Know About Tonight's Obamacare Deadline
PHILIP BUMP
8 HRS AGO

If you haven't signed up for a healthcare plan by midnight tomorrow at midnight (see update), some 7 hours, 17 minutes, and 50 seconds from now, you won't be covered on January 1. But the deadline is mostly symbolic. Despite the botched rollout, Obamacare continues to slowly gain momentum.

The New York Times looked at the data, which makes it clear that the Affordable Care Act is nowhere near where the administration wanted it to be at this point. President Obama hoped that there would be three million people enrolled by the end of the year and the figure is closer to one million. Even the president hasn't signed up through the marketplace yet, though he's promised to do so by midnight. With tonight's deadline looming, states that run their own exchanges are staffing up in anticipation of increased demand. But even a sign-up surge is unlikely to triple enrollment.

Assuming that the exchanges work, the failure of the federal Healthcare.gov, well-documented in another Times article on Monday, isn't the only Obamacare website that's seen problems. Oregon's exchange has been plagued with problems for longer than the federal government's. According to Politico, Maryland's Democratic candidate for governor is furious that his state's exchange has seen such balky performance.

Complaining about Obamacare is still good politics, regardless of party. A new CNN poll suggests that the policy has never been less popular, with only 35 percent of Americans saying they support it. That is a drop of five percent over the past month — a drop that occurred even as performance on the federal exchange website improved dramatically. "Nearly all of the newfound opposition," CNN notes, "is coming from women."

So what does it mean if you are uninsured and haven't signed up by midnight (tomorrow)? It means, exactly as the advertising has suggested, that you won't be covered on January 1. That isn't ideal since the law's aim is to get people insured sooner rather than later. But you won't automatically be subject to the penalty that is applied to the uninsured beginning in 2014. As long as you're covered for nine months of the year, no penalty will be applied.

The deadline, then, is largely a benchmark. Or, "a huge milestone," in the words of Andrea Routh, the head of an advocacy group quoted by The Times. It's a point at which Obamacare takes another step forward in terms of implementation — and another step away from any attempt to undo the law entirely. As Salon's Brian Beutler wrote earlier this month, the more that people enroll in the program, the harder it will be for any politician to say that those insurance policies should be taken away. This is especially true given the ferocity with which Republicans have criticized the administration on behalf of people who lost their insurance policies because they didn't meet Obamacare's minimum requirements. It would be hard to then turn around and demand policies for a million other people be revoked. In fact it could be as many as 8 million — the figure one official gave as the possible number of enrollments under the Medicaid expansion.

What's important to watch over the medium term isn't how many people have enrolled, really — it's who is enrolling. Insurers need a lot of young, healthy people to sign up in order to offset the costs for older, sicker people. And according to The Times, it's that latter group that's enrolling more heavily.

In Colorado, 43 percent of people signing up for private plans in the first couple of months were in the 55-to-64 age bracket. In Connecticut, Rhode Island and Washington, the share was 40 percent. And in California and Kentucky, the proportion was 35 percent. Nationally, about 12 percent of the population is 55 to 64.

If those trends continue, it will be a significant problem for Obamacare, one that politicians will need to address. But that won't happen at midnight tonight. Obama's Christmas won't be ruined this year, but we make no promises about 2014.

Update, 12:30 p.m.: The government gave you an extra day.
Charlie Kaye ✔ @CharlieKayeCBS
BREAKING. Gvmt official confirms people who sign up for Obamacare health care tomorrow will still quality for coverage starting January 1st.
11:51 AM - 23 Dec 2013

Update, 1:30 p.m.: And the president has enrolled.
Ashley Parker ✔ @AshleyRParker
BREAKING: President Obama signed up for a health care plan this weekend on the DC exchange. He went with a bronze plan.
12:29 PM - 23 Dec 2013


http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013/12/what-you-need-know-about-tonights-obamacare-deadline/356419/
 
Somebody Has to Be Wrong About Obamacare

Somebody Has to Be Wrong About Obamacare
By Christopher Flavelle
Dec 26, 2013 11:15 AM CT

A CNN poll taken last week showed that many Americans are exaggerating the effect of Obamacare on their own lives. As I wrote on Tuesday, this suggests the law will get a bump in public support over the next few months, as the widely anticipated negative consequences don't materialize for most people outside the health-care insurance exchanges.

The poll is interesting for another reason: It suggests that the public's divergent views on Obamacare don't reflect different opinions about the proper role of government, so much as wildly different understandings about what the law will mean for the average American. Here's the thing: They can't both be right.

Start with this question: "Do you think you and members of your family will or will not be able to receive care from the same doctors you see now?" That isn't a question about political preferences; it's asking respondents to make a prediction of fact.

So the difference is startling: 79 percent of Democrats said they'll be able to keep their doctor, compared with just 44 percent of Republicans -- almost a 2-to-1 gap. Unless doctors start dropping patients according to their party affiliation, those two groups can't both be right.

The same is true for a question about whether people expect to pay for medical care. Here the gap is even larger: 86 percent of Republicans said yes, compared with just 47 percent of Democrats. Again, unless insurers structure co-payments and deductibles by party, they can't both be right.

Based on those numbers, one of two things will happen in 2014. The first is that access to doctors will fall and the cost of care will go up for most Americans; Democrats will (gradually) realize they've been misled, and support for the law will collapse.

The second possibility is that access to doctors and the cost of care won't change for most Americans; Republicans will (gradually) realize they've been misled, and the case against Obamacare will disintegrate for the average voter. Fear of that outcome may explain why Republican leaders have been so frantic in trying to undermine the law now -- they're afraid that once their base realizes the warnings about Obamacare were wrong, they will stop paying attention.

It seems almost unnecessary to note, a week before the law's coverage provisions take effect, that the vast majority of Americans who get their insurance outside the exchanges won't see any big difference in cost or in their ability to see their own doctor. Unnecessary, because whether you agree with me or not, we're about to find out. All we know for sure is that somebody is wrong.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-26/somebody-has-to-be-wrong-about-obamacare.html
 
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The Obamacare report card


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By DAVID NATHER
March 28, 2014


Time’s up, Obamacare. Ready for your grades?

After six months, the first enrollment season is coming to an end. So it’s time to take stock, with POLITICO’s report card that covers the highs and lows of the rollout.

If you’re a supporter of the law, you might be cringing right now — you know the areas where the grade is not going to be good. It’s pretty obvious that the Obama administration wasn’t ready for the launch, despite three and a half years to prepare. The political messaging hasn’t impressed anyone; Democrats are scampering away from what was supposed to be a legacy achievement. No one’s going to forget that notion that everyone could keep their plans.

But the critics will have to round out their picture of the law, too. The signups have now hit 6 million — a feat that seemed impossible in the worst days of the website failures — and the administration’s outreach efforts are better than they used to be. And although there are lots of complaints about the prices, some low-income customers seem to be genuinely happy with the rates and subsidies they’re getting.

It’s also important to judge the rollout against the political headwinds the law has faced. White House officials argue that the battles against Obamacare have been stronger and longer lasting than even the fights against breakthroughs like Social Security and civil rights laws. “There’s no other law that has had to overcome all the obstacles that have been thrown at this law by its opponents,” said White House health care adviser Phil Schiliro.

But this is also a program that will affect millions of Americans, and Republicans say it’s such a bad student it should repeat a grade. “For gross incompetence, the thing should be held back a year,” said Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner. “The law is clearly not ready for prime time — not that it ever will be — and that’s why the House has voted to delay it.”

Here’s where Obamacare was a good student and where it needs to show more effort, based on the latest research and interviews with health care experts across the board:


Enrollment
At this point, it’s all about expectations — and after months of lowering the bar, the White House has finally cleared it.

Thanks to the fumbled launch and an unspectacular February, health care experts had been convinced that the total enrollment would be roughly five and a half million people. That turned around quickly once the enrollment websites became flooded with last-minute signups, as the White House had predicted.

And on Thursday, President Barack Obama had his best day in months when the total hit 6 million, earlier than even optimistic experts thought it would.

That’s not nothing. It’s a big recovery from October, and it’s enough to avoid a financial disaster for the insurers. It’s certainly enough to give Democrats the talking point they want against Republicans: “Do you really want to take health insurance away from millions of people?”

It’s just not the original 7 million goal, as declared by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, and Republicans won’t ever let the administration forget it. (There was even a time when CBO was predicting 8 million, right when the law passed.)

Keep in mind, too, that enrollment numbers will come down if people don’t pay their premiums — currently as many as 15 percent to 20 percent of those who have signed up haven’t paid up. Numbers could also tick up during the rest of the year, because people can sign up later in special cases like getting married or having a baby, just like they can with workplace insurance.

Those aren’t the only people getting coverage. Another 4.4 million people who visited the exchanges are eligible for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program. More are signing up through state Medicaid agencies. But that may fall short of expectations, too — CBO predicted 8 million people in Medicaid in the first year.

So yes, the Obama administration needlessly lost almost two months because of an incompetent website — but the last-minute numbers show it has made up a lot of lost ground since then.

Grade: A-


Mix of customers

It’s not where it needs to be — yet.

To keep premiums stable, health plans need a good mix of healthy customers to help pay for the sicker ones. Until they actually start racking up medical bills, the best substitute we have is to look at the ages of the people who have signed up. And so far, they’ve trended older.

By the end of February, 25 percent of the health exchange customers were ages 18 through 34, and 69 percent of them were 35 or older. That varies from state to state, of course, but overall the exchanges have been underperforming in signing up young adults.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the 18-to-34 adults make up 40 percent of the potential market for individual health insurance, while 54 percent are age 35 or older. That doesn’t mean the final mix has to line up exactly that way, but it’s not going to build confidence among insurers if the young adults don’t sign up in greater numbers.

Obama himself says the age mix is important. The enrollment is already big enough to keep premiums “stable,” but “the impact in terms of the program has always been based more on the mix of people who sign up,” Obama told WebMD earlier this month.

Still, there are mechanisms built into the law to help insurers who don’t get enough healthy people in the first three years — and health insurers knew that going in. “I don’t think plans got into this thinking everything was just going to work out in the first year,” said Mark McClellan, who ran the Medicare agency under President George W. Bush and presided over the start of the Medicare drug benefit.

And there could still be a big surge in the next few days as 20-something procrastinators finally sign up — there’s some evidence that it’s already happening outside the official health exchanges. But it would have to be pretty big to change the mix significantly. So for now, it, too, gets a “not bad but not great” grade.

Grade: B


Who’s actually new?

There’s still a pretty broad disagreement about how many uninsured people are getting covered, which is much of the point of the law. But there are signs of at least some progress.

Gallup surveys have now found the uninsured rate declining three months in a row. In the latest survey, released earlier this month, 15.9 percent of Americans were uninsured, down from 17.1 percent in the last quarter of 2013. Health care analysts were cautious about the first surveys, warning that it could be a one-time dip, but that becomes less likely with each survey that finds the same results.

The studies by McKinsey and Co. tell a different story. In a survey released earlier this month, more than seven out of 10 of Obamacare’s new customers had health insurance before, and just 27 percent were previously uninsured. That was up a bit from its January survey, when only 11 percent were previously uninsured.

None of those surveys tell us exactly what we need to know. McKinsey doesn’t include Medicaid, and Gallup doesn’t prove exactly why the uninsured rate dropped.

And since the Obama administration isn’t tracking the progress on the uninsured in real time, we’re probably going to have to wait a long time for more definitive numbers, however maddening that is.

Grade: Incomplete


Readiness

There’s no point in spending a lot of time on this one. Does anyone really believe the Obama administration was ready to launch the biggest program of Obama’s presidency on Oct. 1? Even the president doesn’t think that anymore.

The administration needed to prove that government can still do big things. As Obama said on the day he signed the Affordable Care Act into law in March 2010: “We are not a nation that does what’s easy … We are a nation that does what is hard. What is necessary. What is right.” The disastrous launch of the federal enrollment website gave the whole program a reputation of incompetence — and once a program has earned that kind of reputation, it’s just about impossible to shake it off completely.

Grade: F


Website repairs

Once it became clear how badly HealthCare.gov was built, the administration scrambled an all-out repair effort that, against the odds, helped the federal website make a remarkable recovery.

For customers, at least, the website became much more user-friendly by the end of November than just about anyone expected. The administration didn’t have to scrap the website after all, a prospect that even Obama reportedly considered. Now, just about anyone who wants to can actually sign up for health coverage. And so far, at least, it's holding up under the crush of last-minute traffic.

If that were the end of the story, the administration might get an A+ for the repair effort. But it’s impossible to ignore the fact that the “back end” of the website still isn’t built. Customers don’t see those sections — but insurers do. Those are the parts that handle the payment of Obamacare subsidies to the insurers, the compensation for health plans that draw too many sick people and the confirmation of each enrollment.

So there’s a lot of manual work being done to take care of all that. For example, one industry source says health insurers are having to use “glorified Excel spreadsheets” to request their subsidy payments.

It’s almost as if the Obama administration did a big extra credit project, raised its grade, and then blew off some homework. It gave the highest priority to the most important part: fixing the customer side. But was it really too much to ask that the whole website would be ready after three and a half years of lead time?

Grade: B-


Outreach

The administration had to make up for lost ground. It couldn’t do much outreach while the website was spitting out error messages; you can’t tell people to go sign up on a website that doesn’t work. But since then, Obama and his team have been stepping up their game — and getting more creative.

Obama’s comedic skills on “Between Two Ferns” achieved their goal — the show was the top source of referrals to HealthCare.gov on the day it came out. And it likely gave Obama some cool points with the young adult crowd (though he may have lost some the next day by meeting with Lance Bass, the singer who tweeted the wrong website name). Michelle Obama wrote a blog post to new mothers on TheBump.com, Joe Biden went on “The View,” and Valerie Jarrett and Denis McDonough have done radio call-ins.

But some of the most effective outreach efforts, according to local health officials and community leaders, have been the old-fashioned kind — sending high-ranking administration officials to visit key cities, and connecting advocates who can organize outreach events.

In Houston, for example, Sebelius visited several times, generating media coverage that boosted outreach efforts of local elected officials, according to Kathy Barton, a spokeswoman for the city’s health department. Labor Secretary Thomas Perez has stopped by to pitch the health care law as well in a city with an unusually high uninsurance rate.

In Jacksonville, Fla., pastor John Allen Newman, who preaches at The Sanctuary at Mount Calvary, says White House officials put him in touch with Enroll America, the coalition of outside groups doing outreach and education. They visited the church several times with promotional materials and helped organize a health fair to spread information about the law.

“Certainly I was pleased with the response I got from the White House,” said Newman, who said the law is going to be “a godsend for so many in the African-American community” dealing with pre-existing conditions, like diabetes and high blood pressure.

So even if they got a late start, Obama and his team get high marks for their much improved, end-game outreach efforts — with just a few points knocked off for that Lance Bass thing.

Grade: A-


Messaging

Let’s be honest: No one’s blown away with the messaging on the biggest domestic achievement of Obama’s presidency.

Not Democrats in Congress, who are still doing research to figure out what the right message is. Not Hillary Clinton, who’s one of the law’s biggest supporters but noted earlier this month that “we have to do a better job than has been done, quite frankly, in explaining the benefits.”

And not Newman, the Jacksonville pastor, who says he has told White House officials that they’ve lost control of the narrative.

“I told them, I think that the battle was so hard-fought that you figured everyone would be so happy for the victory that you didn’t have to explain it. But Politics 101 is that you create the narrative,” Newman said. “They let the opposition create the narrative. And then they had to come out and say, ‘No, it’s not that.’”

It’s always easy to knock the White House and Democratic leaders for not messaging better, and a strong final enrollment surge could give them better material to work with. Obama is trying harder — he gave the health care law a full-throated shout-out in the State of the Union address this year. And polls show the law is recovering a bit from the damage it suffered during the early rollout.

But when you pass a law to help the uninsured, and the uninsured don’t like it — 45 percent have an unfavorable view of the law, according to this month’s Kaiser Family Foundation tracking poll — no one’s going to call that a messaging success.

Grade: C


Is it affordable?

This one is probably the broadest question of the launch: Is the Affordable Care Act coverage affordable?

It’s important to try to answer that question, but the answer depends so much on people’s circumstances and their expectations of health insurance, and even the state they live in, that it’s impossible to give one overall grade.

If you’re in the target group for the law, with a relatively low income or pre-existing conditions, or both, chances are you’ll find something you can live with — and you might get a very good price if you qualify for subsidies.

If you’re not in the target group, and you were happy with your old individual or small business health insurance, the odds are good that you’re running into sticker shock. That’s not going to happen to people who are keeping the insurance they get from a large employer or a public program like Medicare.

“The sticker shock question depends entirely on where you’re coming from,” said Dan Mendelson of the consulting firm Avalere Health. If you’re used to paying full cost and now you’re getting a subsidy, he said, “you have reverse sticker shock. If you’re young and healthy and you were in a low-cost plan, you’re having sticker shock.”

In general, Mendelson said, the premiums have been lower than expected, but the deductibles and out-of-pocket costs have been higher.

For an upcoming state-by-state study on exchange health plans, Breakaway Policy Strategies, a research and consulting firm, found that the average monthly premium in a “silver” plan — the second-cheapest and most popular kind — is $264.91 for a 27-year-old and $443.48 for a 50-year-old, not counting any subsidy.

If customers go one step lower, and buy “bronze,” they’ll find that the average premium is $229.97 a month for a 27-year-old and $385.20 for a 50-year-old. (There are also “gold” and “platinum” plans, depending on how much of your health costs you want to be covered.)

But if they get subsidies, the picture changes dramatically. In El Paso, people who have signed up for private health coverage at Centro San Vicente, a community health center, have gotten premiums as low as $25 to $50 a month after the tax credits are factored in, according to Jose Luna, the center’s chief executive officer. He said his future daughter-in-law, a college graduate, will pay $25 a month for HMO coverage from Blue Cross Blue Shield.

“Every single person I saw was ecstatic, with an exclamation point,” said Luna. “It is the subsidy that makes the insurance so affordable for the population we serve — and I’d even say for the majority of Texans.”

Consumer advocates say they’re not too surprised at the high deductibles, but they’re not satisfied with the sticker price of the premiums.

“Premiums aren’t where I want them to be. They should be lower,” said Lynn Quincy of Consumers Union. She doesn’t blame the health care law for that — she says the main culprit is doctors and other medical providers who overcharge.

Jamie Court, president of the California-based Consumer Watchdog, blames insurers themselves for not doing enough to keep their rates down, and would like stronger state regulation. Obamacare’s problem, he said, is that it “told insurers they had a guaranteed market and didn’t put a lid on how much they could charge.”

And there’s going to be more turmoil as small businesses upgrade their health coverage — with some paying higher premiums, due to the coverage requirements or new rating rules. “It’s a real nightmare,” said Michael Frasco, the chief financial officer of Montclair Art Museum in New Jersey, who says the premiums for his older employees are about to jump anywhere from 18 percent to 43 percent because of the complicated way premiums are calculated.

So is the Affordable Care Act affordable? It is for some people, but certainly not for everyone. That means the law needs two grades, one for the target groups and one for the spillover effects.

Grades:

For low-income and pre-existing conditions: A

For others who are affected: C


Did it help more people than it hurt?

If the launch of Obamacare had helped its target audience and left everyone else alone — or, at least, clearly helped more people than it hurt — it would have been a lot harder for the opponents to find ammunition.

But there are warning signs for Democrats in recent polls: The losers — or, at least, people who believe they are losers — appear to outnumber the winners.

The Kaiser Family Foundation poll found that 29 percent said they had been negatively affected by the law in February, while just 17 percent said they’ve been helped.

And a Gallup poll this month found that 10 percent of Americans said the law has helped them, while 23 percent said it has hurt them. In both polls, the majority said they haven’t been affected one way or another.

Is that solid proof that all of those people were really hurt? Not necessarily, but it is their perception. If all of those numbers were real, you’d have to believe that Obamacare just happens to single out Republicans — since 39 percent of them said they were hurt — and leave Democrats alone, since only 7 percent of Democrats reported that it had hurt them.

But perceptions matter in politics — and that’s why it spells trouble for the Obama administration that more Americans don’t believe they’ve been helped.

White House officials say those aren’t the only ways to measure who’s been helped. They argue that there are other kinds of help that can’t be measured by polls, like the end of lifetime benefit limits, free preventive services, the 3 million young adults who have been able to stay on their parents’ health plans, and the 7 million seniors who have saved on their Medicare prescription drug bills.

Given how much misinformation there is out there after four years, it’s possible that people are getting those benefits and aren’t aware of them, so it’s a good idea to be cautious about the poll results. And the public’s perceptions could change as people get more used to the law, and have a better awareness of what it does and what it doesn’t do.

But sooner or later, the Obama administration needs a real turnaround — because it’s not going to do it any good if the beneficiaries are outnumbered by people who think the law is hurting them.

Grade: B


If you like what you have, you can keep it

This one doesn’t need much discussion either. It’s the Republicans’ favorite talking point, that people with individual insurance didn’t all get to keep their plans. But “if you like your plan” is not just a talking point. It’s the standard Obama himself set, many times.

And as much as the administration tries to make that situation right — by allowing insurance companies to voluntarily extend the old plans, and giving them more wiggle room to update the old plans without canceling them — Obama will never be able to completely undo the damage.

Grade: F


Did the canceled-plans people ever get covered?

For all of the other problems with the rollout, it’s worth mentioning one bomb that didn’t go off: There never was a screaming army of people who had their health plans canceled and ended up uninsured.

Right up through the final weeks of December, that was a real possibility. The administration scrambled to make accommodations for as many as half a million people who hadn’t been able to replace their canceled policies — doing everything from pushing back enrollment deadlines to letting those people buy catastrophic health plans that were really supposed to be a backstop only for the young and healthy. If they didn’t have new coverage in place by Jan. 1, the worst-case scenario was a new wave of horror stories about people who actually ended up uninsured because of Obamacare.

And yet, after Jan. 1 came and went, there was mostly silence.

Did they all find coverage? Health care experts say it’s impossible to know for sure — mainly because there are so many ways they could have replaced it. They could have gotten it through the Obamacare health exchanges, but no one would know, because there’s no place on the application to mark down that they were a “canceled-plans person.” Or they could have gotten it directly from an insurer and never dealt with the exchanges at all. Some may have been able to extend their old plans.

It’s certainly possible that not all of them got covered, and that terrible stories could still emerge. But the fact that there was no big eruption of horror stories is significant. It’s possible that many of the people found other coverage with no help from the administration, but the odds are that its last-minute actions had at least some role in avoiding disaster.

Grade: A-




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source: Reuters

Obamacare hits milestone, but detours ahead for health law


(Reuters) - President Barack Obama's embattled U.S. healthcare law, having survived a rollout marred by technology failures, reaches a milestone on Monday with the end of its first enrollment wave, and with the administration likely to come close to its goal of signing up 7 million people in private health insurance.

But as the White House and its allies declare victory, major hurdles remain. And it will take years to determine whether the law will accomplish its mission of creating stable insurance markets that can help a significant number of America's nearly 50 million uninsured gain health coverage, experts say.

Republicans are counting on that uncertainty to play into their strategy for the midterm congressional elections in November. Their plan: Draw on public dissatisfaction with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act to help the GOP win control of the U.S. Senate and retain the party's dominance in the House of Representatives.

"We're not really going to know whether it worked or not until the third or fourth year. And of course, that's two elections down the road," said Timothy Jost, a professor at the Washington and Lee University School of Law in Lexington, Virginia.

"What I worry about is that we won't be able to figure out whether it's worked or not until it's too late," he said.

Even before the first enrollment period comes to a close, Republicans and some Democrats have separately proposed election year changes that could appeal to voter concerns -- and would leave the law substantially altered.

Republican proposals would undermine Obamacare by making health insurance optional and returning sick people to high-risk pools. A handful of Senate Democrats last week also proposed some Republican-sounding ideas that would allow insurance to be sold across state lines, discontinue the employer mandate for many small businesses and allow low-premium, high-deductible plans to be sold in the marketplaces.

Families USA, an administration ally on healthcare reform, plans to make its own public recommendations this week on how the enrollment drive for 2015 might be improved. "Our recommendations will build‎ on the laudatory success of the first enrollment period," said Ron Pollack, the group's executive director.

'PROOF OF CONCEPT'

So far, enrollment has been uneven. About half the states are expanding Medicaid as the law intended, and interest in private insurance lags in more than a dozen states where public leaders oppose Obamacare or have failed to produce a working state-operated marketplace. Consumer costs next year could vary widely, with premiums likely to rise in the double-digit percentages in states with lower enrollment.

"In most of the country, they've basically done a proof of concept: It can work. It has not yet succeeded and won't succeed until you know that most of the uninsured have been covered and the market's stable, with reasonable growth in premiums," said Larry Levitt, a health policy expert at the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that 14 million people will obtain health coverage this year through the private insurance marketplaces or the expansion of the Medicaid program for the poor. However, coverage is not expected to hit its peak of 37 million people until 2018, when the CBO forecasts 25 million people in the marketplaces and 12 million enrolled through Medicaid or its sister health plan, the Children's Health Insurance Program

Over the next year the administration plans to fully link its enrollment website, HealthCare.gov, with the insurance industry for sign-ups and payments. The administration still has no automated systems for confirming enrollment data, distributing subsidies or compensating insurers for unexpected losses.

There are signs of a last-minute enrollment surge by younger adults for 2014 that could help keep the new online marketplaces viable for insurers. Hospitals and doctor practices are also introducing changes to the way they provide healthcare in line with the law.

"The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. It's the framework that everybody in the healthcare industry is working within and developing their strategic plans around," said Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, who was a top White House adviser on healthcare during the law's development.

"Even the opposition, the Republicans, recognize the ACA is the law of the land, and despite the rhetoric, actually accept it," he said.

Many of the newly insured are ready to declare the law's benefits. Barbara Doucet, 63, of Newnan, Georgia, sais she can afford health insurance for the first time in 14 years and no longer worries about what might happen should she have an accident or become seriously ill.

"I was scared constantly, absolutely terrified that something would happen and what would I do. I didn't sleep really well for a long, long, long, long time," Doucet, a waitress and reform advocate, told Reuters in an interview arranged through Consumers Union, a public advocacy group that sees Obamacare as a benefit to consumers.

"I'm extremely pleased with ACA, I really am," she said.

Stories like Doucet's clash with tales of people who find insurance more expensive because of Obamacare's expanded coverage requirements.

Amy Newbold, a 57-year-old saleswoman from Randolph County, North Carolina, lost her employer insurance last year.

Through HealthCare.gov, she found a mid-tier "silver" plan with premiums that at first blush are $75 a month lower than her previous policy. But there are no savings, she says, since her old premiums were paid with pretax dollars and Obamacare premiums are paid with aftertax dollars. Newbold said she faces substantially higher drug costs for arthritis and psoriasis and worries that an out-of-pocket maximum of $5,000 could put needed medicines out of reach.

"I feel left out in the cold, and I don't know why it has to be that way," she said in an interview arranged through the office of Republican U.S. Representative Renee Ellmers, an Obamacare opponent from North Carolina.

'IMPROVING' THE LAW

If Republicans seize the Senate from Democrats, Obama may be forced to compromise on key aspects of the law, including requirements that most individuals obtain coverage and that employers with 50 or more workers offer health coverage, two of its most unpopular provisions.

Polls show most Americans would prefer to see Obamacare changed, not repealed. In a March survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation, most Americans dislike the law, but 59 percent wanted it retained or improved.

That could make Republicans think twice about pushing for repeal. But analysts say big changes may still be likely.

Some key features of the law are likely to endure, they say, pointing to the ban on higher costs for people with preexisting medical conditions and new medical business models that discourage costly fee-for-service medicine by putting a priority on patient outcomes and cost savings.

Analysts say Republicans could also scale back marketplace subsidies to help low-income consumers buy insurance, pricing restrictions on insurers and taxes intended to help fund the reform effort. And they predict that if Democrats are chastened by losses in the congressional elections, they might be more inclined to back some Republican proposals.

"Republicans will make changes. It's not a question of ‘if.' It's a question of how many," said James Capretta, a health policy expert with the conservative Ethics & Public Policy Center.
 
Consumers Losing Doctors With New Insurance Plans

Consumers Losing Doctors With New Insurance Plans
By Kelli Kennedy
May 14, 2014

MIAMI (AP) -- Some consumers who bought insurance under President Barack Obama's health care law are experiencing buyer's remorse after realizing that their longtime doctors aren't accepting the new plans.

Before the law took effect, experts warned that narrow networks could impact patients' access to care, especially in cheaper plans. But with insurance cards now in hand, consumers are finding their access limited across all price ranges - sometimes even after they were told their plan would include their current doctor.

Michelle Pool is one of those customers. Before enrolling in a new health plan on California's exchange, she checked whether her longtime primary care doctor was covered. Pool, a 60-year-old diabetic who has had back surgery and a hip replacement, purchased the plan only to find that the insurer was mistaken.

Her $352 a month gold plan was cheaper than what she'd paid under her husband's insurance and seemed like a good deal because of her numerous pre-existing conditions. But after her insurance card came in the mail, the Vista, California resident learned her doctor wasn't taking her new insurance.

"It's not fun when you've had a doctor for years and years that you can confide in and he knows you," Pool said. "I'm extremely discouraged. I'm stuck."

The dilemma undercuts President Obama's 2009 pledge that: "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period." Consumer frustration over losing doctors comes as the Obama administration is still celebrating a victory with more than 8 million enrollees in its first year.

Narrow networks are part of the economic trade-off for keeping premiums under control and preventing insurers from turning away those with pre-existing conditions. Even before the Affordable Care Act, doctors and hospitals would choose to leave a network - or be pushed out - over reimbursement issues as insurers tried to contain costs.

Insurance trade group America's Health Insurance Plans says studies show the biggest factor influencing consumer choice is price. Insurers say that if consumers want low premiums, their choices may be limited.

Insurance companies also argue there's wide variation in what doctors and hospitals charge, with some increasing prices every year. Insurers say there's little evidence that higher-priced hospitals or doctors are actually delivering better care.

Health and Human Services spokesman Fabien Levy says the law requires insurance companies to post their directories so consumers can see if their doctor is covered before they sign up. Officials say insurance companies ultimately decide what doctors and hospitals to include in networks, just as they did before the law. The federal government is closely monitoring plans to see if more guidelines are needed to ensure consumers have access to quality health care.

Insurance companies say doctors are equally responsible for letting consumers know what plans they accept. But finding that information can be tricky because healthcare.gov does not have a centralized directory of doctors and what plans they accept. Instead it offers links to directories of individual plans, which are sometimes inaccurate.

Insurance agents Craig Gussin in San Diego and Kelly Fristoe in Texas helped dozens of clients switch plans just before the enrollment deadline when clients realized their doctors weren't covered. Now, they're struggling to help clients who realized they were in that position after the March 31 enrollment deadline, when consumers are locked into plans for one year.

Gussin says that even after his mad-dash to make switches before the deadline, he still has a half-dozen clients who are stuck - and he expects the number to grow as more try to schedule with doctors. He and other agents fear it will be one of their most serious issues in 2014.

"Everybody I talk to is having the same issue. It's probably the number one item that we're seeing right now," said Gussin, who is petitioning Covered California for special enrollment status to help clients change plans.

Health counselor Nathalie Milias, who helped enroll nearly 300 Miami-area residents in ACA plans, says most of them chose a plan with $0 monthly premiums and deductibles - but with much more limited choices. She says tax credits could have allowed them more robust plans if they were willing to spend more, but many are working poor who didn't want to pay another bill.

Marie Bien-Aime, a 59-year-old cook at a Miami restaurant, enrolled in that plan to avoid a monthly payment, but she realized her longtime health clinic didn't take the plan. Shortly before the enrollment deadline, Bien-Aime upgraded to a plan that costs $37 per month.

"Paying $37 isn't good for me, but I had to do it because I wanted to keep my doctor because he's so good," said Bien-Aime, who was previously uninsured.

Many consumers are still learning. They hear "Obamacare" and think it's free like Medicaid or Medicare, said John Foley, an attorney and navigator.

"They don't expect to pay anything," said Foley. "For a couple more dollars a month you can get a really good plan and they're like, 'This is free. I don't want to pay for this.'"

Even with pricier plans, some consumers have access problems.

James Potts' $647-per-month silver plan was issued by the same company that had insured him with a different plan cancelled under the Affordable Care Act. The 64-year-old property insurance agent assumed his doctors would remain the same under the insurer's new plan, but didn't double check.

When Potts got a nasty cold, he called three facilities near his home in Wichita Falls, Texas, and was shocked to find none took the insurance, including his primary care doctor.

"It was a waste of money for me," he said. "I couldn't find doctors that would talk to me."

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source: Sun Sentinel

Looking for complaints, Rick Scott instead finds praise for Obamacare

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Gov. Rick Scott visited a senior center Tuesday to warn about cuts he said Obamacare is forcing in a popular version of the Medicare health program and to collect their horror stories.

What he found was a satisfied group with few complaints.

The 20 seniors assembled for a roundtable with Scott at the Volen Center were largely content with their Medicare coverage and didn’t have negative stories to recount.

And some praised Obamacare – a program that Scott frequently criticizes.

“I’m completely satisfied,” Harvey Eisen, 92, a West Boca resident, told Scott.

Eisen told the governor he wasn’t sure “if, as you say,” there are Obamacare-inspired cuts to Medicare. But even if there are, that would be OK. “I can’t expect that me as a senior citizen are going to get preferential treatment when other programs are also being cut.”

Ruthlyn Rubin, 66, of Boca Raton, told the governor that people who are too young for Medicare need the health coverage they get from Obamacare. If young people don’t have insurance, she said, everyone else ends up paying for their care when they get sick or injured and end up in the hospital.

Eventually, Rubin said, Obamacare will become more popular. “People were appalled at Social Security. They were appalled at Medicare when it came out. I think these major changes take some people aback. But I think we have to be careful not to just rely on the fact that we’re seniors and have an entitlement to certain things,” she said.

“We’re all just sitting here taking it for granted that because we have Medicare we don’t want to lose one part of it. That’s wrong to me. I think we have to spread it around. This is the United States of America. It’s not the United States of senior citizens,” Rubin said from her spot two seats away from the governor.

Tuesday was the second day in a row that Scott stayed away from the Florida capital, avoiding the give-and-take of the final week of the annual legislative session.

On Monday, he had photo ops in Jacksonville and Miami Lakes, where he presented medals to first responders. On Tuesday, he visited the Volen Center then stopped in Fort Lauderdale where he presented medals to veterans.

At the Volen Center he explained to a group around a large conference table that “Medicare is being reduced. The Medicare Advantage programs are being cut to pay for Obamacare.”

“As I travel the state and I listen to seniors they tell me stories about how their plans are being changed, how they are losing their doctors, the coverage is changing, and so what I’m here to do is just hear your stories,” he said.

Their stories didn’t jibe with the governor’s view. When Scott asked one woman if she’d seen any changes in her Medicare Advantage coverage. “Not really,” she responded. A man said he was “very happy” with his coverage. Another woman said she and her husband are “very pleased.” Another man reported “no problems.”

Sonia Azam, 73, of Coconut Creek, told Scott she found orthopedic surgeons weren’t taking Medicare anymore. Scott asked the group if others were finding physicians were opting out of Medicare, and the response was a chorus of “no”s.

The federal government pays more to cover each Medicare Advantage participant than for seniors under traditional Medicare. The government had planned a 1.9 percent cut in the next budget year, but the Washington Post reported this month that the decision was reversed, and payments will now increase an average of 0.4 percent.

Obamacare was generally popular. One woman said she liked it because her son, who was previously uninsurable because of heart problems, now has health coverage. “I don’t have any complaints,” she said.

A man who said he was in the insurance business said he’s found health coverage under Obamacare is too expensive. And a woman who said she lost her job and is living with her mother to take care of her said she can’t afford Obamacare.

When Scott was chief executive of Columbia/HCA, the company was found guilty of inflating Medicare bills and paid a $1.7 billion fine.

Florida House Minority Leader Perry Thurston, a Broward Democrat, commented about Scott’s Tuesday activities via email:

“It’s apparent that Rick Scott will say about anything, even untruths, to Florida’s seniors. He continues to overlook the fact that changes to Medicare Advantage were halted by President Obama and PolitiFact has rated Rick Scott’s claims on this issue to be `mostly false.’

“As far his campaigning on state time during the legislative session, I think the public is seeing more and more evidence of Governor’s Scott’s failure of leadership. Whether the issue is health care, education, equal pay for women, or raising the minimum wage, Florida isn’t seeing leadership from Governor Rick Scott and the Republican-run Legislature," Thurston said.</iframe>
 
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The 'Opt Out' nation: Why uninsured Americans decided to pass on Obamacare

The 'Opt Out' nation: Why uninsured Americans decided to pass on Obamacare
By Mandi Woodruff
October 2, 2014 4:09 PM
Yahoo Finance

When the federal health insurance marketplace officially debuted this time last year, Marta Hardy, 60, felt just one emotion: relief.

At the time, Hardy, who lives in Lakeland, Ga., had gone nearly four years without insurance. She had a decent-paying job working full-time at a small manufacturing plant, but the company didn’t offer health plans. Her husband was already retired and could take advantage of Medicare. That left Hardy, who was recently diagnosed with thyroid disease and takes medication for high blood pressure, entering her 60s with no safety net.

“I was excited to finally have an opportunity to have insurance,” she says. “Then I checked [the marketplace] and I found that the lowest tier Bronze plan was going to run me $725 per month, plus a $6,300 annual deductible. That is a house payment or two car payments for me.”

Hardy decided not to sign up. Come tax time, she, like most people who decided to forgo insurance in 2014, will have to pay for that decision. The penalty this year is 1% of gross annual income or $95 per adult (whichever is greater), plus $47.50 per child. There are a few exemptions to this rule, including people who earn too little to file federal taxes (less than $20,000 for families and less than $10,000 for individuals) and people who spend more than 8% of their income on health insurance.

But for Hardy, deciding between a penalty or health coverage was a simple matter of math. Signing up for a plan would have been much costlier than taking the penalty and continuing to pay out of pocket.

“I go to the doctor several times every year and still does not add up to what my insurance premium would have been under Obamacare,” she says. “I’m glad there’s something out there for people who can’t get insured, but there are people who are working and paying their bills and trying to follow the rules and it’s not even within our reach.”

The ‘opt-out’ nation

More than 8 million Americans purchased new health plans in 2014, but there are still an estimated 41 million American adults left uninsured in the U.S., according to the CDC

For some consumers like Hardy, it’s not for lack of desire. More than 30% of uninsured Americans said cost was the biggest barrier for purchasing coverage, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation survey published last year. Another 30% blamed their lack of coverage on job loss. Only 1.5% said they didn’t have coverage because they didn’t need it.

Federal tax subsidies can dull the sting of an otherwise expensive plan. Per Kaiser, 17 million Americans who were either uninsured or purchased health insurance on their own were eligible for subsidies this year


Marsha Danley, 56, was among those who earned too much to qualify for a subsidy. It’s been more than a decade since Danley last had a insurance. After losing her job at a tech company during the dot-com crash, she worked for a string of small employers that didn’t offer benefits.


The Napa, Calif., accountant earns $68,000 a year (well above the $45,000 individual income threshold to qualify for tax subsidies) and was quoted $500 a month for a benchmark Silver plan, which came with a $5,000 annual deductible.

If she were debt-free, the $500 monthly premium might be manageable. But when her mother became ill a few years ago, her home healthcare bills fell into Danley’s lap, leaving her with nearly $20,000 worth of debt to manage on her own.

“Taking a hit on my tax refund is a lot cheaper than paying $6,000 a year for a plan and another $5,000 for a deductible,” she says. “That’s a total waste of money for me. That can be better put to paying off my debt.”

Danley, who does her own taxes, is preparing to factor in the 1% penalty already.

“I think it’s great that they make it where everybody can get insurance, but to say that if you don’t get it I’m going to tax you, that’s not right,” she says.

What to expect at tax time

So what happens if you didn’t have health insurance this year? When tax season rolls around next year, be prepared to face a penalty. Once you know what your final income will be for 2014, you should be able to calculate the penalty amount on your own. But people who have more complicated tax situations might want to sit down with a tax pro soon to figure out what they’re up against.


If you qualify for an exemption from the penalty, you’ll have to fill out Form 8965 when you file taxes. Check out a preview of what that form will look like here, but the final version of the form hasn’t yet been issued by the IRS, says Kristin Esposito, a CPA and a tax staff member with the American Institute of CPAs.

Overall, the process should be simple to complete. But considering the glitches that plagued the marketplace’s rollout last year, it might be best to handle your taxes a bit earlier than usual in 2015.

“Whenever there’s something new like this, there are going to be some bumps in the road,” Esposito says.

Months before tax-filing season, consumers without insurance now will again have to decide whether to sign up for coverage next year. Open enrollment period for the federal marketplace and state-run exchanges begins Nov. 15.

The threat of a 1% tax penalty may not have been enough to push people over the fence this time around, but the penalties will only increase – up to 2% of income or $325 per adult in 2015, and 2.5% of income or $695 per adult in 2016.


At the same time, the cost of the benchmark silver plan is predicted to drop by 0.8% next year, which might make it harder for some to argue against signing up.

“Folks need to reevaluate very shortly if they want coverage for 2015, because even if they didn’t owe a penalty for 2014, that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t owe one for 2015 and the penalty could be much steeper,” Esposito says.

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Unable to Meet the Deductible or the Doctor

Unable to Meet the Deductible or the Doctor
By ABBY GOODNOUGH and ROBERT PEAR
October 17, 2014

Patricia Wanderlich got insurance through the Affordable Care Act this year, and with good reason: She suffered a brain hemorrhage in 2011, spending weeks in a hospital intensive care unit, and has a second, smaller aneurysm that needs monitoring.

But her new plan has a $6,000 annual deductible, meaning that Ms. Wanderlich, who works part time at a landscaping company outside Chicago, has to pay for most of her medical services up to that amount. She is skipping this year’s brain scan and hoping for the best.

“To spend thousands of dollars just making sure it hasn’t grown?” said Ms. Wanderlich, 61. “I don’t have that money.”

About 7.3 million Americans are enrolled in private coverage through the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, and more than 80 percent qualified for federal subsidies to help with the cost of their monthly premiums. But many are still on the hook for deductibles that can top $5,000 for individuals and $10,000 for families — the trade-off, insurers say, for keeping premiums for the marketplace plans relatively low. The result is that some people — no firm data exists on how many — say they hesitate to use their new insurance because of the high out-of-pocket costs.

Insurers must cover certain preventive services, like immunizations, cholesterol checks and screening for breast and colon cancer, at no cost to the consumer if the provider is in their network. But for other services and items, like prescription drugs, marketplace customers often have to meet their deductible before insurance starts to help.

While high-deductible plans cover most of the costs of severe illnesses and lengthy hospital stays, protecting against catastrophic debt, those plans may compel people to forgo routine care that could prevent bigger, longer-term health issues, according to experts and research.

“They will cause some people to not get care they should get,” Katherine Hempstead, who directs research on health insurance coverage at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, said of high-deductible marketplace plans. “Unfortunately, the people who are attracted to the lower premiums tend to be the ones who are going to have the most trouble coming up with all the cost-sharing if in fact they want to use their health insurance.”

Deductibles for the most popular health plans sold through the new marketplaces are higher than those commonly found in employer-sponsored health plans, according to Margaret A. Nowak, the research director of Breakaway Policy Strategies, a health care consulting company. A survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that the average deductible for individual coverage in employer-sponsored plans was $1,217 this year.

In comparison, the average deductible for a bronze plan on the exchange — the least expensive coverage — was $5,081 for an individual and $10,386 for a family, according to HealthPocket, a consulting firm. Silver plans, which were the most popular option this year, had average deductibles of $2,907 for an individual and $6,078 for a family.

Jon R. Gabel, a health economist at NORC, a research organization affiliated with the University of Chicago, said that employer-sponsored plans had lower deductibles, in part, because they provided more generous coverage than the most popular exchange plans. The typical employer-sponsored health plan would qualify as a gold-level policy under the standards of the Affordable Care Act, Mr. Gabel said.

The website for the federal insurance marketplace serving 36 states, HealthCare.gov, strongly encourages consumers to focus on premiums: When consumers search for a plan online, the results are ranked by premium price, with plans offering the lowest premiums listed first.

But insurance plans with lower premiums generally have higher deductibles. Gina Brown, 37, of Nashville, was paying about $155 a month for a Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee plan, after taking account of her subsidy. But her deductible was $4,000, she said, and so she avoided going to the doctor even when she got an ear infection over the summer.

“I attempted to treat it with over-the-counter and homeopathic meds,” she said. “Eventually it went away.”

Ms. Brown recently got a job with health benefits, so she canceled the marketplace plan. Her new insurance has a deductible of $1,000, but primary care visits and prescriptions are not subject to the deductible.

“Now that I know I can go and safely just pay a co-pay,” she said, “it makes me feel better.”

Mark Yuschak, 57, of Jackson, N.J., said he had a silver plan with an annual deductible of $3,000. He discovered its limits in March.

“My wife had an incident, a digestive disorder, and we had to go to the emergency room of a hospital in Freehold, N.J.,” Mr. Yuschak said. “We presented our insurance card and filled out all the forms. They told us, ‘You don’t have a co-payment, you’re free to go.’ ”

Later, though, they received a bill “that could choke a horse,” Mr. Yuschak said — for more than $1,000. “Our insurance wouldn’t cover any of it because we had not met our deductible.”

Carol Payne, a respiratory therapist in Gilbert, Ariz., signed up through HealthCare.gov for a Blue Cross Blue Shield plan with a $6,000 deductible. She pays $91 toward her monthly premium and gets a subsidy of $353 to cover the rest.

The plans she could have chosen with lower deductibles were from insurers that “were not as reputable,” Ms. Payne said. She has used the insurance for preventive care and an emergency room visit after a car accident.

“I’m just doing what I can to keep myself healthy,” she added. “I mean, $6,000 — do they think I’ve just got that under my mattress?”

People with low incomes may qualify for subsidies that reduce their deductibles, co-payments and other out-of-pocket costs. The assistance is available to people with incomes from 100 percent to 250 percent of the poverty level (from $23,550 to $58,875 for a family of four), but only if they choose a silver plan.

Consumers also benefit from a provision of the Affordable Care Act that limits out-of-pocket costs, which include deductibles. The limit this year is $6,350 for an individual and $12,700 for a family plan. But in general, the limits apply only to care provided by doctors and hospitals in a plan’s network and do not cap charges for out-of-network care.

Dr. Rebecca Love, of Moab, Utah, is well on her way to passing that limit. Dr. Love, 63, who has degenerative arthritis and a host of other health problems, pays $422 a month in premiums for a plan that has a deductible of $6,000. But she has already paid more than $6,000 in medical costs this year that did not count toward her deductible because the doctors and hospitals — more than 100 miles away in Grand Junction, Colo. — were not in her network.

To see certain specialists in her network, Dr. Love said, she would have had to travel to Salt Lake City, which is much farther away and requires driving through a treacherous mountain pass.

“Medical care costs too much and health insurance as it stands doesn’t address this,” she said. “What have we become?”

Ms. Wanderlich, who had suffered the brain hemorrhage, was even avoiding preventive care until last month, when she had to get a prescription renewed and her doctor’s office required her to be seen first. Grudgingly, she went for an annual physical exam on Sept. 12. She was relieved to learn that she owed only $30 for the visit; the provider billed her insurer more than $1,200.

When the next open enrollment period begins on Nov. 15, Ms. Wanderlich said, she will probably switch to a plan with a narrower network of doctors and a smaller deductible. It will probably mean losing her specialists, she said, but at this point she is resigned.

“A $6,000 deductible — that’s just staggering,” she said. “I never thought I’d say this, but how many minutes until I get Medicare?”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/1...-deductible-or-the-doctor.html?referrer=&_r=0
 
A maze to opt out of Obamacare individual mandate

A maze to opt out of Obamacare individual mandate
By: Rachael Bade
October 9, 2014 11:58 AM EST

There are dozens of ways to escape Obamacare’s individual mandate tax — but good luck figuring that out come tax season.

Tens of millions of Americans can avoid the fee if they qualify for exemptions like hardship or living in poverty, but the convoluted process has some experts worried individuals will be tripped up by lost paperwork, the need to verify information with multiple sources and long delays that extend beyond tax season.

“It’s not going to be pretty,” said George Brandes, vice president of health care programs at Jackson Hewitt, a tax prep firm. “Just because you theoretically qualify for hardship, or another exemption, doesn’t mean you’re going to get it.”

The worries may foreshadow a messy tax season next year as the one in 10 Americans who remain uninsured calculate their tax bill for the first time under Obamacare’s individual mandate.

Those without health insurance will have to cough up $95 per person or 1 percent of their income, whichever is greater. That penalty eventually jumps to $695 or 2.5 percent.

The White House expanded the list of exemptions allowing the uninsured to bypass the penalty for legitimate reasons, including religious restrictions, falling on rocky times or a death in the family. Another big out created after the controversy over canceled health plans was the so-called affordability exemption that allows people to opt out if premiums are still not affordable.

The Congressional Budget Office expects 23 million of the 30 million Americans who remain uninsured in 2016 to qualify for exemptions. It’s part of the reason the CBO in June downgraded from 6 million to 4 million the number of people it estimates will pay the penalty.

The uninsured have two ways to opt out: The easiest way is fill out a new tax form for those exemptions that don’t require Obamacare marketplace approval. Some will be simple, including the exemption for being uninsured for under three months or those living below a certain income — about $10,150 for singles and $20,300 for married couples.

But many must be approved by the marketplace, including for people citing religious beliefs, like being Amish, or those who qualify for the dozen or so “hardships,” such as being evicted, experiencing domestic violence or having a health plan canceled because it doesn’t meet the law’s requirements.

There’s even one for being in jail, another for having medical debt and one for taking care of sick family members. An open-ended “hardship” exemption lets people try to explain situations not listed that stood in their way of coverage.

That’s where things get complicated. For marketplace approval, applicants must fill out an exemption application, gather proof of their situation, mail it off and wait a few weeks for approval.

Once they get the exemption certification number in the mail, they then fill out a newly drafted tax form to skirt the penalty.

Some math may be required: If the exemption covers only a few months of the year, the individual is responsible for calculating how much of the penalty he or she will owe.

The process brings up a number of problems, the first being a time crunch. The marketplace is now taking about two weeks to process exemption applications, according to H&R Block. Many fear it will take much longer during tax season, particularly because the entire process is manual.

Given how most people wait until the last minute to do their taxes, there is concern delays could push beyond tax day, April 15.

“What happens on April 14 when you go to the marketplace and file for an exemption?” asked Kathy Pickering, the executive director of The Tax Institute at H&R Block.

Nina Olson, the IRS taxpayer advocate, said her team is “very worried that taxpayers will have returns coming in where they believe they’re covered by exemptions but they haven’t gone through the steps … particularly those needing” approval.

“What are we doing with that return in the meantime while the taxpayer goes … [for approval]? … Are we holding the entire refund?” she asked.

TurboTax estimates that less than 5 percent of exemption-eligible people have applied so far, suggesting a lack of education on how the process works.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services says it does not expect many people to apply for exemptions after Jan. 1, but many tax preparers predict the opposite. They say most uninsured individuals will come to their offices in early 2015 not knowing how to apply for exemptions — or even that they can opt out.


They then could have to return home to begin the paper scramble. While exemptions for homelessness and domestic violence require no proof, most hardship applicants will need to search for utility notices of power being turned off, for example, bankruptcy papers or insurance claims for disaster victims of floods or fires.

Some uninsured may have to pay tax prep fees twice. That’s because many also live in poverty and each year depend on tax refunds to pay rent, car bills and other essentials. They may simply pay the tax penalty to get their refunds right away — then return to the tax preparers later to file an amended return once they get their exemption certifications weeks later.

Others, who can afford to wait, may ask the IRS for an extension to file their taxes.

Not everyone is worried about the exemption process.

TurboTax’s Obamacare tax product leader Sacha Adam predicts it will all work out: “It seems like a lot of people say this is too complex. … But that’s not our perspective.”

But the company is also hoping the IRS will allow people waiting for exemptions from the marketplace to simply file their returns and skirt the penalty without the exemption numbers.

That’s far from a certainty, however.

Many experts do not think average Joe Taxpayer will be able to figure out the exemption tax forms.

“They are likely to be confused, frustrated, even angry, and certainly bewildered, completing these forms,” said Tim Jost, an Affordable Care Act expert.

The Washington and Lee University School of Law professor is concerned about how individuals will claim the so-called affordability exemption, which would require people to confirm that they could not find insurance with premiums costing less than 8 percent of their income.

Individuals will not be required to submit paperwork proving to the IRS that coverage costs more than 8 percent of their salaries, but experts say tax preparers will want to confirm this for themselves in case of audits.

The new exemption-tax-form instructions come with a chart for claiming this exemption, requiring entry of how much was earned each month and comparing that with the monthly cost of the cheapest plans offered by an employer or the marketplace.

Jost is not sure that information will be readily available because employers have no legal obligation this year to respond to employees’ inquiries, since the ACA’s “employer mandate” has been delayed until next year.

Elizabeth Colvin of Austin Foundation Communities has seen plenty of instances where businesses haven’t provided needed information to employees to help them navigate ACA, and worries the same may happen here.

“They may not be responsive, but they also may try to give the information and not understand what needs to be provided,” she said. “There’s a pretty steep learning curve.”

If their employers did not offer coverage, people claiming the affordability exemption will have to check the Obamacare exchanges to ensure the cheapest plan available to them in 2014 — minus the Obamacare tax credit they would have received had they signed up for the plan — exceeded 8 percent of their income.

But it’s unclear that the exchanges during tax season in early 2015 will have the ability to retroactively determine how much people would have had to pay for insurance, Jost said.

Observers are also concerned about the Medicaid exemption for individuals who would have qualified had they not lived in a state that refused to expand it. In Florida and Texas alone, that’s around 1.8 million people.

Currently, these individuals who applied and were rejected on the federal website HealthCare.gov will be mailed an exemption certification to use on their tax returns, according to CMS. But those who applied directly through their state will have to find their rejection notices and send them to the exchanges to get exempted.

What happens if people can’t find their rejection notice? Or if they knew they wouldn’t qualify in 2014 so didn’t bother applying at all?

The good news is that the uninsured have many exemptions they can try to claim should one fall through the cracks.

While some expect the uninsured to throw their hands up and just pay the penalty, one thing is certain: Many who try to get around it will have to muddle through a confusing process.

“If taxpayers are in a situation where they want to apply for an exemption, they’re going to have a lot of work to do to figure it out,” Pickering said.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=9CAACEE5-EB3A-4746-85B4-91A74DCEC68C
 
source: Daily Kos

Obamacare 2015 Success story



Our premium just went down 42% !!!!

Last year here in MO we had only 2 choices of insurer. We are a middle class 3 person family. Our 6 year old is eligible for Medicaid and my wife and I chose the least expensive Silver plan that included our doctors and prescriptions. Our monthly cost was $170.74. Our deductible was $0. Pretty awesome considering that before 2014 we had only catastrophic coverage at $300/month with a $10000 deductible!

Today (11/15/14) I went on to healthcare.gov and submitted a new application. It went very smoothly, especially compared to last year! Most of our information was already filled in from our previous year's application. I just had to verify any changes and click a bunch of "I agree" boxes. It took about 10 minutes.

This year there are 4 choices of insurers and 19 Silver plans for which we are eligible. Again, we chose the least expensive Silver plan which included our doctors and prescriptions. $99.11 with a $150 deductible.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN $99.11 !!!

No changes in income, no changes in family size, no changes in location. The only change is more competition in the market.

If we needed to, we could choose an HMO plan for $37/month and choose different doctors, but we like our doctors and want to keep seeing them.

THANK YOU DEMS & PRESIDENT OBAMA!

PS- Screw you Sen Michael Bennet of CO for caving on the Public Option when you had the chance to get it included. Our costs would be even lower and tax money would not be going to insurance companies.
 
Politics, where any benefit outweighs all cost if you are for a policy.
And where any cost outweighs all benefit if you are against a policy.
 
Politics, where any benefit outweighs all cost if you are for a policy.
And where any cost outweighs all benefit if you are against a policy.

Clearly, more people are happy with it than are bitching about it.

You loose!:lol:
 
What's your standard?
My standard is the badly written law designed to reinforce the wrong incentives, the government's own reports about how its not delivering as promised on cost, liberal rags (sympathetic to the ACA's intent) documenting how the law is affecting people's lives, and common sense.

Now compare all that with your reasoning, I voted for it. Really doesn't hold up.
 
My standard is the badly written law designed to reinforce the wrong incentives, the government's own reports about how its not delivering as promised on cost, liberal rags (sympathetic to the ACA's intent) documenting how the law is affecting people's lives, and common sense.

Now compare all that with your reasoning, I voted for it. Really doesn't hold up.

My standard is the badly written law

Are you a lawyer?
 
My standard is the badly written law designed to reinforce the wrong incentives, the government's own reports about how its not delivering as promised on cost, liberal rags (sympathetic to the ACA's intent) documenting how the law is affecting people's lives, and common sense.

Now compare all that with your reasoning, I voted for it. Really doesn't hold up.

My standard is the badly written law

Are you a lawyer?
 
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