Music: Prince guitar solo at a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony became a milestone

damn, lol.... dude had Stevie Winwood starstruck, and Stevie been around since like 1965 all up in the mix

Steve Winwood has one of the greatest voices in Rock History.

It's incredible he was awestruck by Prince, he's partnered with Eric Clapton and worked with Hendrix and the Beatles. That has to be the highest honor that someone like that held him in such esteem.
 
The shame is prince never really got his props for rock music or his guitarmanship (yeah I made that word up..lol) in philly WMMR barely plays any of princes more rock tunes...lets go crazy ever once in a while....and only AFTER he died did they play his solo on my guitar gently weeps..:smh:
White supremacy at its finest.
 
White supremacy at its finest.

I disagree, Prince was never known for his guitar chops as he was and got respect for his rhythm playing not his lead playing. I strongly disagree. When he played this solo, while he was alive he got props, and he rarely played lead guitar solos as such, I remember him getting props for his SNL performance and his performance on Jimmy Fallon show.
 
I disagree, Prince was never known for his guitar chops as he was and got respect for his rhythm playing not his lead playing. I strongly disagree. When he played this solo, while he was alive he got props, and he rarely played lead guitar solos as such, I remember him getting props for his SNL performance and his performance on Jimmy Fallon show.
Rarely played lead, wtf are you looking at?
 
I disagree, Prince was never known for his guitar chops as he was and got respect for his rhythm playing not his lead playing. I strongly disagree. When he played this solo, while he was alive he got props, and he rarely played lead guitar solos as such, I remember him getting props for his SNL performance and his performance on Jimmy Fallon show.

You have a bad memory
 
I disagree, Prince was never known for his guitar chops as he was and got respect for his rhythm playing not his lead playing. I strongly disagree. When he played this solo, while he was alive he got props, and he rarely played lead guitar solos as such, I remember him getting props for his SNL performance and his performance on Jimmy Fallon show.
what the hell you think purple rain was.. prince was never viewed as a rock musician he was seen more as R&B or pop...but he had some serious rock chops
 
what the hell you think purple rain was.. prince was never viewed as a rock musician he was seen more as R&B or pop...but he had some serious rock chops


Again Prince was not known for his lead guitar play, he was known more for his rhythm playing. Prince was not known for his lead playing, he was mostly known for his rhythm playing as he developed his lead playing later. Some of his bands he was not even the best guitar player, and he even stated that and it can be heard. When you think of Prince's playing his lead style is not what jumps out, it is his rhythm playing. He got better as a lead player as he stripped his bands down, and actually played the instrument more. I am not sure what you mean about Purple Rain though. Prince was never a rock guitarist, and not even close to one on his best day. He basically played a cleaner faster Hendrix on his best days, case in point the RRHOF solo. Not to diminish his playing, he struggled carrying an album exclusively with the guitar and it was his weakness thus trying to work with his last "guitar girl" band. To clarify what I said him barley playing lead in venues as such (RRHOF) with other notable guitar legends. As I stated when he did play he got the props he deserved, such as his performance on SNL the song FURY, he got props and his performance of Bambi on Fallon, he got props, but to sit here and act like he got his Pink Floyd on is comical.
 
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Again Prince was not known for his lead guitar play, he was known more for his rhythm playing. Prince was not known for his lead playing, he was mostly known for his rhythm playing as he developed his lead playing later. Some of his bands he was not even the best guitar player, and he even stated that and it can be heard. When you think of Prince's playing his lead style is not what jumps out, it is his rhythm playing. He got better as a lead player as he stripped his bands down, and actually played the instrument more. I am not sure what you mean about Purple Rain though. Prince was never a rock guitarist, and not even close to one on his best day. He basically played a cleaner faster Hendrix on his best days, case in point the RRHOF solo. Not to diminish his playing, he struggled carrying an album exclusively with the guitar and it was his weakness thus trying to work with his last "guitar girl" band.


what is Prince intro and soloing on?


what guitar is this solo?


below average on guitars in general?
 
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what is Prince intro and soloing on?





what is Prince intro and soloing on?


what guitar is this solo?


below average on guitars in general?





Yeah, you can't read. Prince was known for his rhythm guitar playing. Prince is not a rock guitarist, just as much as John Mayer is not a jazz guitarist, just as much as Carlos Santana is not a folk guitarist. Not sure where I ever said below average, not sure where I said he couldn't play lead guitar? I clearly stated Prince got props for his rhythm playing first, and later got props on his lead playing as he got better because he focused on the instrument more. This is what Prince was known for early and got props for, but to say he is a rock guitarists and should be getting rock god props tells me you truly have not listened to Prince play guitar. It's ok, Prince is a music god in his own sense, but a rock guitarists god he is not. Sorry. Now I will say he does not get enough props for his acoustic guitar playing, but then again how is one supposed to judge that if they don't hear it often? I dunno to many rock gods who where not the best lead player in their band at any point, just saying. However, one thing was always clear in any of his bands he was the best rhythm guitar player.
 
Yeah, you can't read. Prince was known for his rhythm guitar playing. Prince is not a rock guitarist, just as much as John Mayer is not a jazz guitarist, just as much as Carlos Santana is not a folk guitarist. Not sure where I ever said below average, not sure where I said he couldn't play lead guitar? I clearly stated Prince got props for his rhythm playing first, and later got props on his lead playing as he got better because he focused on the instrument more. This is what Prince was known for early and got props for, but to say he is a rock guitarists and should be getting rock god props tells me you truly have not listened to Prince play guitar. It's ok, Prince is a music god in his own sense, but a rock guitarists god he is not. Sorry. Now I will say he does not get enough props for his acoustic guitar playing, but then again how is one supposed to judge that if they don't hear it often? I dunno to many rock gods who where not the best lead player in their band at any point, just saying. However, one thing was always clear in any of his bands he was the best rhythm guitar player.
Give us one example of someone of someone playing lead and Prince playing rhythm...
 
Yeah, you can't read. Prince was known for his rhythm guitar playing. Prince is not a rock guitarist, just as much as John Mayer is not a jazz guitarist, just as much as Carlos Santana is not a folk guitarist. Not sure where I ever said below average, not sure where I said he couldn't play lead guitar? I clearly stated Prince got props for his rhythm playing first, and later got props on his lead playing as he got better because he focused on the instrument more. This is what Prince was known for early and got props for, but to say he is a rock guitarists and should be getting rock god props tells me you truly have not listened to Prince play guitar. It's ok, Prince is a music god in his own sense, but a rock guitarists god he is not. Sorry. Now I will say he does not get enough props for his acoustic guitar playing, but then again how is one supposed to judge that if they don't hear it often? I dunno to many rock gods who where not the best lead player in their band at any point, just saying. However, one thing was always clear in any of his bands he was the best rhythm guitar player.
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do you even know what rock is?
how about blues?:rolleyes:
so far you have only posted ignorance...
anyway When Doves Cry was early in his career - and Prince got props for it - so what shit are you saying about "later"?
 
Give us one example of someone of someone playing lead and Prince playing rhythm...
Give us one example of someone of someone playing lead and Prince playing rhythm...

I'm not sure what u r asking for. One downfall
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do you even know what rock is?
how about blues?:rolleyes:
anyway When Doves Cry was early in his career - and Prince got props for it - so what shit are you saying about "later"?

You should try listening to other guitar players besides Prince, you would be in for a rude lesson on the instrument. Prince got the props he deserved for his abilities on guitar, I mean y'all up in here trying to aaliyah his guitar playing. Not to diminish his playing, and not to overstate it because he dead. His props are right where they need to be, and he is not a rock god on guitar. Prince not seeing Chuck, Jeff Beck, Stevie, Gilmour, Brian May, just to name few and that's cool because as I stated because Prince primary focus was not the guitar as those of the "gods" were, and that's cool. Released Albums were Prince did focus and feature the guitar, well they were very uneven, and he never had his "Little Wing," "Europa" "Stairway to Heaven," "Maggot Brain" he came close but he didn't and that's cool. A guitar god to me is someone that is primarily recognized specifically for their instrument, Prince is known for being one of the greatest multi-instrumentalist of all time, wearing purple, and the linn drum. Prince is known more for the linn drum over his lead guitar playing. Just saying

Next year, someone will be trying to convince you Prince is hip hop and he was best Pop Rapper of all time.

Talking about his bass playing would have been more interesting
 
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How about posting a few videos that back your claim..

Go listen to the discography, and read the album credits, go do your own discovery. People these days want you to do everything for them. Go watch some tour videos, go read the interviews, go read the books. The only thing I disagree with is saying that Prince did not get his props for his guitar playing, he did get his props. Where are you ranking Prince all-time?
 
Go listen to the discography, and read the album credits, go do your own discovery. People these days want you to do everything for them. Go watch some tour videos, go read the interviews, go read the books. The only thing I disagree with is saying that Prince did not get his props for his guitar playing, he did get his props. Where are you ranking Prince all-time?
Stop it, just post the videos he has a million online now that way we can have a chance to hear what you are talking about..
 
I disagree, Prince was never known for his guitar chops as he was and got respect for his rhythm playing not his lead playing. I strongly disagree. When he played this solo, while he was alive he got props, and he rarely played lead guitar solos as such, I remember him getting props for his SNL performance and his performance on Jimmy Fallon show.

Nope not at all. Prince was always known for his rhythm guitar playing.

Again Prince was not known for his lead guitar play, he was known more for his rhythm playing. Prince was not known for his lead playing, he was mostly known for his rhythm playing as he developed his lead playing later. Some of his bands he was not even the best guitar player, and he even stated that and it can be heard. When you think of Prince's playing his lead style is not what jumps out, it is his rhythm playing. He got better as a lead player as he stripped his bands down, and actually played the instrument more. I am not sure what you mean about Purple Rain though. Prince was never a rock guitarist, and not even close to one on his best day. He basically played a cleaner faster Hendrix on his best days, case in point the RRHOF solo. Not to diminish his playing, he struggled carrying an album exclusively with the guitar and it was his weakness thus trying to work with his last "guitar girl" band. To clarify what I said him barley playing lead in venues as such (RRHOF) with other notable guitar legends. As I stated when he did play he got the props he deserved, such as his performance on SNL the song FURY, he got props and his performance of Bambi on Fallon, he got props, but to sit here and act like he got his Pink Floyd on is comical.
Yeah, you can't read. Prince was known for his rhythm guitar playing. Prince is not a rock guitarist, just as much as John Mayer is not a jazz guitarist, just as much as Carlos Santana is not a folk guitarist. Not sure where I ever said below average, not sure where I said he couldn't play lead guitar? I clearly stated Prince got props for his rhythm playing first, and later got props on his lead playing as he got better because he focused on the instrument more. This is what Prince was known for early and got props for, but to say he is a rock guitarists and should be getting rock god props tells me you truly have not listened to Prince play guitar. It's ok, Prince is a music god in his own sense, but a rock guitarists god he is not. Sorry. Now I will say he does not get enough props for his acoustic guitar playing, but then again how is one supposed to judge that if they don't hear it often? I dunno to many rock gods who where not the best lead player in their band at any point, just saying. However, one thing was always clear in any of his bands he was the best rhythm guitar player.
A Number of Prince's hits were known because of the rhythm guitar riffs that were their centerpieces, no doubt. I think of "Kiss", "Controversy", "I Wanna Be Your Lover".

However, Prince was showing off his lead guitar chops going as far back as his second album on his hit, "Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad". Interestingly, when they lip and instrument synched that song on American Bandstand, Dez Dickerson was pretending to play Prince's guitar solo. Some years later his most well known song, "Purple Rain" was as much known for the extended guitar solo at the end as it was for the arpeggiated notes in the intro. As well, "Let's Go Crazy" is known for that killer guitar solo at the very end. "When Doves Cry" was known for the lead guitar introductory riff. These three songs were huge crossover hits that came out at the apex of his popularity. So, it would be incorrect to say that he wasn't known for his lead playing.

As soul, passion, chops, creativity and blues sensibility goes, Prince was the closest to Hendrix of any other well-known guitar player who admired Hendrix and claimed him as a primary influence. Robin Trower and Stevie Ray Vaughn were great lead players, but when Prince performed the extended solo from Purple Rain on the live concert videotape from the Purple Rain tour - he was Hendrix reincarnated.

Guitarists have always known about Prince's beastly-ness on the instrument. There are only two logical reasons why in his lifetime he wasn't known in the mainstream as a guitar god in the realm of Clapton, Van Halen, Page and a handful of others. The first reason involves the fact that most guitar gods were primarily known as guitar players. Even Hendrix and Clapton were only passable as singers. Their main talent was playing guitar. Prince, on the other hand was excellent as a guitar player, a singer, a dancer, a piano player, a drummer and a personality- with amazing stage presence to boot. Then behind the scenes he was equally excellent as a writer, producer, arranger and bandleader. I'd argue that it was neither his rhythm playing nor his lead playing that were the main things Prince was known for. It his singing and dancing to his own songs. It just so happened that amidst that dizzying collection of gifts was one of the greatest guitarists - both lead and rhythm - to ever pick up the instrument.

White supremacy/racism is the second reason Prince wasn't held up higher as a guitar idol during his lifetime. It was the same thing that declared Elvis to be the King of rock and roll. It was the same thing that DIDN'T declare Little Richard, Jackie Wilson or Chuck Berry as King. Most major music magazine writers and just about all mainstream and rock radio DJ's were white men. White supremacy cannot ever acknowledge the true greatness of Black artistry. To do so would be expose the sham of their perceived white superiority. This is why he was left off of Rolling Stone's top guitarist list - and even when he was added in 2015, he was only number 33. Jack Hamilton wrote this in Slate:

"...But in years since, Prince’s position in the rock pantheon has remained unstable. On Rolling Stone’s list, he ranked 33rd, five spots beneath Johnny Ramone, a guitarist widely beloved for not being very good. Any list like this is stupid, but this is really, really stupid. Prince may have been the greatest guitarist of the post-Hendrix era and often seemed to carry Hendrix’s aura more intrepidly than anyone, most notably in his incredible versatility..."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat...he_greatest_guitarist_since_jimi_hendrix.html
 
Much contradiction in that opinion. I do agree Prince was a cleaner, faster Hendrix, but again Prince is not known as a guitar player, and that was not his main talent. He is a great guitar player, no doubt, but i do not consider him a guitar god and that has nothing to do with him being black.
 
Much contradiction in that opinion. I do agree Prince was a cleaner, faster Hendrix, but again Prince is not known as a guitar player, and that was not his main talent. He is a great guitar player, no doubt, but i do not consider him a guitar god and that has nothing to do with him being black.
I am still waiting for you videos of him playing rhythm instead of lead...
 
Prince not seeing Chuck, Jeff Beck, Stevie, Gilmour, Brian May,
You're delusional, bro. Prince would fuck up ANYONE on that list. Especially Chuck. And Stevie Ray would have slapped you for making that statement.

Much contradiction in that opinion. I do agree Prince was a cleaner, faster Hendrix, but again Prince is not known as a guitar player, and that was not his main talent. He is a great guitar player, no doubt, but i do not consider him a guitar god and that has nothing to do with him being black.
Where was the contradiction?

It's not just the cleanliness and speed of his playing that made him Hendrix-like. It was his mastery of blues soloing, his double stops, his phrasing, his use of the whammy bar, the passion and emotion, the soul, his control of feedback, etc.
 
You're delusional, bro. Prince would fuck up ANYONE on that list. Especially Chuck. And Stevie Ray would have slapped you for making that statement.

Where was the contradiction?

It's not just the cleanliness and speed of his playing that made him Hendrix-like. It was his mastery of blues soloing, his double stops, his phrasing, his use of the whammy bar, the passion and emotion, the soul, his control of feedback, etc.
The best guitar player is very subjective and hard to define what makes them the best.. But I will say this, to the ear Prince makes the guitar sound as sweet as anyone I've ever heard..
Matter of fact I know a few people who are not into the electric guitar sound who wound up falling in love with it after hearing Prince play. Just listen to the sound he gets out the guitar, sure there may be others that can do it, but I've never heard anyone make play it so sweet and effortless...

And he was just joking around...
 
The best guitar player is very subjective and hard to define what makes them the best.. But I will say this, to the ear Prince makes the guitar sound as sweet as anyone I've ever heard..
Matter of fact I know a few people who are not into the electric guitar sound who wound up falling in love with it after hearing Prince play. Just listen to the sound he gets out the guitar, sure there may be others that can do it, but I've never heard anyone make play it so sweet and effortless...

And he was just joking around...

I'm not too impressed by that performance though, Bro lol.
 
I'm not too impressed by that performance though, Bro lol.
The thing is a lot of people can play the guitar very well but few can make it sound good..
How many guys you know can get pussy wet by playing the guitar alone with no band or singers.
Sometimes we get so caught up on the technical aspect of the instruments, over looking that at the end of the day if you cannot make it sound good you will never be that great.
 
The thing is a lot of people can play the guitar very well but few can make it sound good..
How many guys you know can get pussy wet by playing the guitar alone with no band or singers.
Sometimes we get so caught up on the technical aspect of the instruments, over looking that at the end of the day if you cannot make it sound good you will never be that great.

I'm sure a lot of that has to do with Prince being an icon, and a sex symbol in the eyes of many women.

Prince is obviously very talented, but as a musician, who has been exposed to a lot of very high level musicians ...

...I can't say I'm IMPRESSED, either. I will say he can definitely play, tho'.

I always felt Prince was overrated, even if very talented.

...and I DEFINITELY know the difference between technical prowess and musicality. Very few musicians have both at a very high level.
 
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I'm sure a lot of that has to do with Prince being an icon, and a sex symbol in the eyes of many women.

Prince is obviously very talented, but as a musician, who has been exposed to a lot of very high level musicians ...

...I can't say I'm IMPRESSED, either. I will say he can definitely play, tho'.

I always felt Prince was overrated, even if very talented.

...and I DEFINITELY know the difference between technical prowess and musicality. Very few musicians have both at a very high level.
As a musician (vocalist/guitarist/keyboardist) who has been exposed to a lot of very high level musicians, I would disagree with your notion that Prince was overrated - particularly on guitar in either the areas of technical prowess or musicality. He had both in abundance. And he had a vicious blues sensibility that underpinned his guitar chops.

I do agree that whether or not he could make chicks wet had a lot more to do with other things than the sound of his guitar playing. That particular example that RoadRage posted of Prince's playing was underwhelming -as skilled playing goes. I've seen other far more impressive videos of his acoustic playing.
 
That guitar solo was a statement to Rolling Stone Magazine and the music industry in general. The previous year RS magazine came out with the top 100 greatest guitarists. Prince was left off that list for unknown reasons. How a industry publication like RS left out an all-time great like Prince is a mystery. I believe Prince took that opportunity at the RRHOF to show RS magazine that they were sleeping on him. Prince has never commented on this, but I firmly believe that he was intentionally making a statement. Just peep the way he walks off stage. Throws the guitar and struts off stage. He's the G.O.A.T.

YOOOOO!!! I saw this video a couple years ago, but this puts that video and, especially his exit in a much better perspective for me!
 
I'm sure a lot of that has to do with Prince being an icon, and a sex symbol in the eyes of many women.

Prince is obviously very talented, but as a musician, who has been exposed to a lot of very high level musicians ...

...I can't say I'm IMPRESSED, either. I will say he can definitely play, tho'.

I always felt Prince was overrated, even if very talented.

...and I DEFINITELY know the difference between technical prowess and musicality. Very few musicians have both at a very high level.
Check this, dude played a full house concert on piano and guitar by himself, no bells and whistles, playing songs that were originally designed for the 9 piece sign of the time band.. Name one person to do that shit, let alone on two instruments..
 
Check this, dude played a full house concert on piano and guitar by himself, no bells and whistles, playing songs that were originally designed for the 9 piece sign of the time band.. Name one person to do that shit, let alone on two instruments..

Bro, that is not impressive among people who do this shit.

Its not that he can't play, its that people make him out to be the penultimate of musicians and that simply ain't the case.

Its something about celebrity that make people overhype you. If you have any talent AND you're famous, niggas will make make that talent out to be more than it is.

Now factor in Prince actually being VERY TALENTED, and people make him out to be untouchable.

Off the top of my head, Brian McKnight can do that. Brian McKnight is a very good pianist and acoustic guitarist. Dwele can play a no. of instruments well. D'angelo can play no. of instruments well, too. There are others, but I'm not thinking of them right now.
 
As a musician (vocalist/guitarist/keyboardist) who has been exposed to a lot of very high level musicians, I would disagree with your notion that Prince was overrated - particularly on guitar in either the areas of technical prowess or musicality. He had both in abundance. And he had a vicious blues sensibility that underpinned his guitar chops.

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Prince is TALENTED.

When I say overrated, what I mean is, people make it seem as if he's just untouchable at the shit he does. That is hardly the case.
 
Bro, that is not impressive among people who do this shit.

Its not that he can't play, its that people make him out to be the penultimate of musicians and that simply ain't the case.

Its something about celebrity that make people overhype you. If you have any talent AND you're famous, niggas will make make that talent out to be more than it is.

Now factor in Prince actually being VERY TALENTED, and people make him out to be untouchable.

Off the top of my head, Brian McKnight can do that. Brian McKnight is a very good pianist and acoustic guitarist. Dwele can play a no. of instruments well. D'angelo can play no. of instruments well, too. There are others, but I'm not thinking of them right now.
The problem with people like McKnight and D'angelo is that they play what they play very well, Prince on the other hand can play all types of music from Jazz, Classical, R&B, Funk classic soul and play it at the level of the masters...
The only one you can mention in the same breath has to be Stevie, but even he is not as versatile as Prince when it comes to mastering different genres..
 
The problem with people like McKnight and D'angelo is that they play what they play very well, Prince on the other hand can play all types of music from Jazz, Classical, R&B, Funk classic soul and play it at the level of the masters...
The only one you can mention in the same breath has to be Stevie, but even he is not as versatile as Prince when it comes to mastering different genres..

Bro', I listen to the skill level and feel. I don't care if you can play every genre in the world. Thats a matter of interest, not necessarily talent or lack thereof.

...and I'm sure, minus classical, D'angelo and Brian Mcknight can play all of those genres. I have no proof of classical, but those other genres are too closely connected for them to not have that in their bag.
 
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