Music News: The Dame Dash Interview: Jay-Z's NFL Deal, Fall out with Biggs, New Businesses

[Raeeb7]

So you can look at an interview and tell a person character? They all are actors bro it's all entertainment.
What point are you trying to make?
Mine was all his interviews are not about Jay. Also that he can talk his shit about Jay if anybody can he can.

They all were making money so that's not the issue. Dame ego is just to large for anybody else to fit in the room.

I remember he was going at Kanye until kanye cut a check. He even went at Vlad after he already knew how Vlad get down.

You can tell by looking at his interviews he is hard to deal with.

 

[Raeeb7]

I remember Star was going at jay and dame back in the day and russel Simmons gave star and buck wild a “record contract”/ hush money to stop going at them. Star been coaching choke. They both living in Atlanta right now.
Choke said jay paid him off back in the day so he wouldn’t tell that they broke his jaw. He probably want another check.

I hear you. All I'm saying is Dame earned the right to talk his shit in my opinion.

 

[PDQ21]

Jay-Z in the news = a new Dame Dash interview... Just saying...

Dame been doing interviews for the last few months to promote his new streaming services

 

[footloose]

I hear you. All I'm saying is Dame earned the right to talk his shit in my opinion.

Nah he do. Shit I would be tight too.
It soundsfrom all these conversations they Demise was over chicks.

But looking at it now I don’t know if dame could of took it to where it is now.

 

[Uncle John]

Dame appears completely unhinged and the common mind can’t get past that.

Dame is spitting fire

 

[exiledking]

Dame been doing interviews for the last few months to promote his new streaming services

No amount of promotion will work for his shit products

 

[exiledking]

Just for the repost

 

[exiledking]

That Rockafella split left him with a high 8 figure bag.

With that money, you don’t need Jay especially if you’re a ‘hustler’.

Unless......you’re not.

20 years since Jay and all he's put out is shit movies

 

[Raeeb7]

Nah he do. Shit I would be tight too.
It soundsfrom all these conversations they Demise was over chicks.

But looking at it now I don’t know if dame could of took it to where it is now.

Music wise Hov is my guy. Business tho besides make the establishment like him what has he done better than Dame. The dudes who went with him after the ROC split ain't doin shit. When he was at Def Jam all the artist hated him. He owned 1/15 of a percent of the nets. Now he has a job with Live nation. Other than marrying Beyonce his resume ain't much better.

 

[bigman23]

Outwardly he seems bitter, however his Instagram story tells a different story: on there he's a kid lovin'/ significant other (she's pregnant) loving/ dog loving person. & he's creating a program that supports up and coming artists. He's a very positive person, & I didn't know this about Dame. Seems like a cool dude.

He could still be bitter about how rocafella ended and he not in the industry anymore

 

[bigman23]

Dame been doing interviews for the last few months to promote his new streaming services

None of Dave business has really been successful since he left rocafella

 

[Uncle John]

I think Dame is sour but past Rocafella.

Dame just can’t plead the 5th about it.

Seems fine in his current lane. I think it’s people on the outside looking to clown him so much and yes most of the clowning is prompted by his rants.

 

[Uncle John]

Dame said “why would I sell the swag from my culture to a man from another culture only for him to turn round and sell it to my culture”.

Whether he wins or not this is facts.

 

[footloose]

Music wise Hov is my guy. Business tho besides make the establishment like him what has he done better than Dame. The dudes who went with him after the ROC split ain't doin shit. When he was at Def Jam all the artist hated him. He owned 1/15 of a percent of the nets. Now he has a job with Live nation. Other than marrying Beyonce his resume ain't much better.

Well the “establishment “ is a big part. How do you exclude that

 

[exiledking]

Music wise Hov is my guy. Business tho besides make the establishment like him what has he done better than Dame. The dudes who went with him after the ROC split ain't doin shit. When he was at Def Jam all the artist hated him. He owned 1/15 of a percent of the nets. Now he has a job with Live nation. Other than marrying Beyonce his resume ain't much better.

On def jam he launched the careers of
Rihanna And Neyo

Who cares if all the artists hated him? All artists always hate the president. He didn't get fired, he moved on.

He's had a ton of success on his own albums and tours

He launched Tidal, which everybody thought was a fail.

He started the sports agency and signed major players

Roc Nation has several major artists careers he's launched and nurtured, and it's a goal to be signed by them for many artists.

If you think all he did was marry Beyonce since then you're crazy. Funny thing is, she's never been the president of shit, and you use her as some measurement of success.

She's more succesuful than him as an artist , and somehow he earns more.

 

[exiledking]

Dame said “why would I sell the swag from my culture to a man from another culture only for him to turn round and sell it to my culture”.

Whether he wins or not this is facts.

That's all he ever did in his business. If he could now he would.

 

[Uncle John]

That's all he ever did in his business. If he could now he would.

Insert debate on how he found himself “on the outside looking in”

 

[World B Free]

He could still be bitter about how rocafella ended and he not in the industry anymore

Maybe, at least he's trying new avenues into the industry.

 

[ViCiouS]

On def jam he launched the careers of
Rihanna And Neyo

Evan Rogers / Carl Sturken developed and A&R'd Rihanna also had her on a production deal
LA Reid and most of the team over at Atlantic now launched Rihanna

He launched Tidal, which everybody thought was a fail.

he lead a group of investors to buy Tidal - and got a nice return when Sprint bought in.... but like Spotify etc Tidal is still not profitable

She's more succesuful than him as an artist , and somehow he earns more.

that can be debated -
what Jay reportedly earns vs what is real are 2 different things

 

[ViCiouS]

That's all he ever did in his business

really? who did Dame sell out to when he ran Roc?

 

[exiledking]

really? who did Dame sell out to when he ran Roc?

He sold culture to another culture for that culture to sell it back to them. It's called the record business. No big deal, he's just lying. Plus, when it comes to money, Beans said he stole from him. That other dude from Bew Orleans said the same. Shit all of em did. But again, maybe they're j7st being disgruntled -- like hes been for 20 years

 

[ViCiouS]

He sold culture to another culture for that culture to sell it back to them. It's called the record business.

more detail please

 

[exiledking]

Evan Rogers / Carl Sturken developed and A&R'd Rihanna also had her on a production deal
LA Reid and most of the team over at Atlantic now launched Rihanna
he lead a group of investors to buy Tidal - and got a nice return when Sprint bought in.... but like Spotify etc Tidal is still not profitable

that can be debated -
what Jay reportedly earns vs what is real are 2 different things

No one said he did it all on his own. If you look back at the whole history if def jam, no one claims Russell Simmons did all that on his own. Or that LA raid does now. But you don't care about any of the others. You just wanna discredit him. He was CEO when those things happened. There was success when he was there.

And just like Spotify and Apple music, tidal is prominent in the music business.

And as far as what gets reported, WHAT ELSE do you have to go by? You say that like you have the "real" figures" somewhere lol.

What determine when you agree with the reported figures or not?

 

[exiledking]

more detail please

He used to sign artists. They sold music, fashion, etc. Music is the "culture " he's referring to. His company was underneath bigger companies from the so called "other culture". They packaged it and sold it back to people in his "culture". He knows this. We all saw the videos back in the day he made with choke about how rich he was and spending money. Bragged on how he never even wore the same draws twice. Then he got cut off from.the main talent, which was Jay Z. In that time, Jay went on to become a literal Billionaire and continued worldwide fame. Same is only known as the guy who was once friends with Jay. He's not had ONE successful venture since then. When are gonna people gonna figure this out?

 

[ViCiouS]

No one said he did it all on his own. If you look back at the whole history if def jam, no one claims Russell Simmons did all that on his own. Or that LA raid does now. But you don't care about any of the others. You just wanna discredit him. He was CEO when those things happened. There was success when he was there.

And just like Spotify and Apple music, tidal is prominent in the music business.

And as far as what gets reported, WHAT ELSE do you have to go by? You say that like you have the "real" figures" somewhere lol.

What determine when you agree with the reported figures or not?

the PR is Jay discovered and developed and signed Rihanna - you posted he launched her

how could any of that or what you posted above be true if
1. she was on a production deal when signed to DefJam
2. the same producers that signed her to the production deal A&R'd the debut album and produced most of the records on it
3. LA Reid was CEO & Chairman at that time Jay was "President"

 

[exiledking]

the PR is Jay discovered and developed and signed Rihanna - you posted he launched her

how could any of that or what you posted above be true if
1. she was on a production deal when signed to DefJam
2. the same producers that signed her to the production deal A&R'd the debut album and produced most of the records on it
3. LA Reid was CEO & Chairman at that time Jay was "President"

Ok so they just set Jay up to look like a winner and somehow it worked.

 

[trappstarr82]

Music wise Hov is my guy. Business tho besides make the establishment like him what has he done better than Dame. The dudes who went with him after the ROC split ain't doin shit. When he was at Def Jam all the artist hated him. He owned 1/15 of a percent of the nets. Now he has a job with Live nation. Other than marrying Beyonce his resume ain't much better.

So Dame is a better business man? You need to do some research.

I like Dame but his ego is his undoing. He has a lot of knowledge and has done some historic things.

These days though, ain't to many people fucking with Jay.

Even if you want to minimize his accomplishments and say he has done nothing but marry Beyonce, marrying her was still a powerful business move.

 

[ViCiouS]

He used to sign artists. They sold music, fashion, etc. Music is the "culture " he's referring to. His company was underneath bigger companies from the so called "other culture". They packaged it and sold it back to people in his "culture". He knows this. We all saw the videos back in the day he made with choke about how rich he was and spending money. Bragged on how he never even wore the same draws twice. Then he got cut off from.the main talent, which was Jay Z. In that time, Jay went on to become a literal Billionaire and continued worldwide fame. Same is only known as the guy who was once friends with Jay. He's not had ONE successful venture since then. When are gonna people gonna figure this out?

Rocafella was an affiliate label and distributed by DefJam et al...
Jay Dame and Biggs always had majority equity

Rocawear was independent fashion brand until JayZ sold the rights to license the brand around 07

Even Paid in Full was distribution through Miramax

Dame is an asshole but in every instance I see he doesn't sell his equity,
he moves to make sure he is always getting a cut of the first dollar (gross not net)

so again please explain where he sells to another culture - to let them sell it back to our own?

 

[ViCiouS]

Ok so they just set Jay up to look like a winner and somehow it worked.

its not the first time they have done it
and not the last either

people rewrite history and the media plays along as long they get something out of it or until they have a reason not to

 

[gutsdabeast]

And as far as what gets reported, WHAT ELSE do you have to go by? You say that like you have the "real" figures" somewhere lol.

What determine when you agree with the reported figures or not?

Jay-Z has a lot of accountants on BGOL who claim he's not a billionaire.

They have the real figures. Forbes is wrong. They have zero proof to show otherwise.

But they know his portfolio because they have direct access to his bank account.

I never knew so many people worked for Jay-Z on this board.

And all of them are disgruntled.

 

[ViCiouS]

Forbes is wrong. They have zero proof to show otherwise.

Trump wasn't the first nor last person that lied their way on to the Forbes list


how many means of production does Jay own distribute or market?

 

[exiledking]

its not the first time they have done it
and not the last either

people rewrite history and the media plays along as long they get something out of it or until they have a reason not to

Great.

 

[exiledking]

Trump wasn't the first nor last person that lied their way on to the Forbes list


how many means of production does Jay own distribute or market?

Next you'll be telling his he didn't write any of his rhymes as well.

 

[ViCiouS]

Next you'll be telling his he didn't write any of his rhymes as well.

 

[gutsdabeast]

Trump wasn't the first nor last person that lied their way on to the Forbes list


how many means of production does Jay own distribute or market?

I have no clue. But I'm not disputing his worth either.

The burden of proof is on you to prove Forbes isn't accurate.

I'm sure Forbes has more information & sources than I can scrounge up.