Music Legal: Ed Sheeran Sued (Again) for Copyright Infringement, This Time by ‘Let’s Get It On’ Co-Writer UPDATE: Sheernan WINS!?

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Ed Sheeran Sued (Again) for Copyright Infringement, This Time by ‘Let’s Get It On’ Co-Writer​

By Tolly Wright
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It’s come to the point in teen-idol Ed Sheeran’s career for him to go from the belle of the singer-songwriter ball to music’s rich, red-headed stepchild, ready for a good lawsuit. On Tuesday, TMZ reported that the family of “Let’s Get It On” co-writer Ed Townsend is claiming copyright infringement by the British pop star. The lawsuit reportedly accuses Sheeran of stealing components of the melody, harmony, and rhythm from Marvin Gaye’s steamy ’70s hit for his Grammy Award–winning single “Thinking Out Loud.” The legal action comes nearly two years after x, the album the song was featured on, was released, and six months after it won “Song of the Year,” but only four weeks after a similar case was thrown at Sheeran for allegedly lifting portions of “Photograph” from an earlier song by X-Factor’s Matt Cardle. It seems like we’ll have to wait until September to find out who he possibly stole “I See Fire” from. Listen to the two songs below for comparison.



 

Ed Sheeran’s Copyright Trial, Explained​

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Ed Sheeran’s much-awaited copyright-infringement trial started this week in Manhattan federal court. Sheeran stands accused of copying Marvin Gaye’s legendary R&B song “Let’s Get It On” in his 2014 hit “Thinking Out Loud.” This lawsuit, filed by the heirs of the song’s co-writer and composer Ed Townsend, claims Sheetan unlawfully employed the “heart” of Gaye’s song — that is, “harmonic progressions” and “melodic and rhythmic elements.”
The suit claims Sheeran copied those elements and “repeated it continuously throughout ‘Thinking’ — this incontrovertible musical similarity has been observed by music industry professionals previously, as embodied by various social media and articles about the matter,” the suit claims. Sheeran has denied the heirs’ allegations since the suit was filed on July 11, 2017. For his part, Sheeran has insisted in court papers that the “heart” of “Let’s Get It On” is composed of no more than routine elements of popular songs that aren’t “unique, original, or protectable.” Here’s what you need to know about the trial over Sheeran’s song.

What, exactly, is Ed Sheeran accused of copying?​

Sheeran is accused of copying the musical building blocks of Gaye’s song, not the lyrics or overall feel. The jury is supposed to weigh only whether Sheeran copied those building blocks, which are recorded on sheet music that’s on file with the United States Patent and Trademark Office, according to the Associated Press.

Has Ed Townsend’s family said anything else?​

Townsend’s family has been vocal about the case. “This must stop,” Townsend’s daughter, Kathryn Townsend Griffin, said last month, according to CBS News. “We have enough chaos going on in the world today, besides having to stand here and worry about other people stealing other people’s belongings.” The article also quotes Ben Crump, a renowned civil-rights attorney representing Townsend’s family, as saying “Thinking Out Loud” exemplifies the history of appropriation of Black artists’ work. “For far too long, Black artists have created, inspired and spread music all around the world,” Crump said. “And Ed Townsend’s family believes artists’, like Mr. Sheeran’s infringement of Black artists, is merely another example of artists exploiting the genius and the work of Black singers and songwriters.”

Has Sheeran been accused of copyright infringement before?​

Oh, yes — the current case is among several he has faced other litigation for alleged copyright infringement. Sheeran faces two other lawsuits in the same courthouse over the alleged similarities between “Thinking Out Loud” and “Let’s Get It On.” They were filed by a company that holds an 11.11 percent stake in “Let’s Get It On,” per the New York Times. The company, Structured Asset Sales, bought the stake from one of Townsend’s sons.


In 2016, the two songwriters behind “Amazing,” a song performed by Matt Cardle, filed suit against Sheeran, alleging he had copied aspects of the track for “Photograph.” The case was settled in 2017, and the “Amazing” writers were added to the credits of “Photograph,” the Times said. The artist Sami Chokri, a.k.a Sami Switch, alleged in a lawsuit that Sheeran’s 2017 song “Shape of You” copied his 2015 song “Oh Why.” Sheeran won the U.K. suit last spring with a court finding that he “neither deliberately nor subconsciously copied” Switch’s tune. Although there were “similarities between the one-bar phrase,” these commonalities were “only a starting point for a possible” copyright infringement, CBS News reported of the court finding.
When that court action wrapped, Sheeran remarked that he was “happy with the result” but expressed concern over this type of litigation, saying he feels “like claims like this are way too common now and have become a culture where a claim is made with the idea that a settlement will be cheaper than taking it to court, even if there’s no base for the claim.” Sheeran said he thinks cases like these are “really damaging to the songwriting industry” and pointed at the volume of songs being released daily. “There’s only so many notes and very few chords used in pop music,” he said, according to Music Business Worldwide. “Coincidence is bound to happen if 60,000 songs are being released every day on Spotify.”

Has Sheeran said anything else about the latest lawsuit?​

The legal team repping Sheeran has insisted the songs are structurally similar only because pop music is characterized by similar structural elements. “The two songs share versions of a similar and unprotectable chord progression that was freely available to all songwriters,” AP quoted his lawyers as saying in a court filing.

Have there been similar lawsuits over Marvin Gaye songs?​

A jury in 2015 determined that Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams’s “Blurred Lines” infringed on the copyright of Gaye’s “Got to Give It Up” and awarded more than $5 million in damages to Gaye’s family, the Times said.

Did Sheeran commit a crime?​

No. Sheeran is accused of copyright infringement in a civil lawsuit. Whether one believes “Thinking Out Loud” is a crime against music remains an entirely separate issue.
 
You can probably make a case that every song is copied.
There aren't but so many chord progressions.
Most popular songs use those same progressions.

Stevie Wonder is one of the most copied artist ever,
but he doesn't sue because he owns and still makes money off his music.
 
You can probably make a case that every song is copied.
There aren't but so many chord progressions.
Most popular songs use those same progressions.

Stevie Wonder is one of the most copied artist ever,
but he doesn't sue because he owns and still makes money off his music.


In Pop music, yes. There are 4 or 5 I don't remember exactly, but there are over a thousand of them easily and many more possibilities. Theoretically, the possibilities are infinite. There are certain ones that our ears like better tho.
'trane used the circle of fifths to demonstrate just how infinite the possibilities are on Giant Steps.

Music is math for the ears and numbers are infinite.
 

Has Ed Townsend’s family said anything else?​

Townsend’s family has been vocal about the case. “This must stop,” Townsend’s daughter, Kathryn Townsend Griffin, said last month, according to CBS News. “We have enough chaos going on in the world today, besides having to stand here and worry about other people stealing other people’s belongings.” The article also quotes Ben Crump, a renowned civil-rights attorney representing Townsend’s family, as saying “Thinking Out Loud” exemplifies the history of appropriation of Black artists’ work. “For far too long, Black artists have created, inspired and spread music all around the world,” Crump said. “And Ed Townsend’s family believes artists’, like Mr. Sheeran’s infringement of Black artists, is merely another example of artists exploiting the genius and the work of Black singers and songwriters.”


I bet she wouldn't say that,if someone sampled her dad's music without permission.....:rolleyes:
 
You can probably make a case that every song is copied.
There aren't but so many chord progressions.
Most popular songs use those same progressions.

Stevie Wonder is one of the most copied artist ever,
but he doesn't sue because he owns and still makes money off his music.
You have no idea how true your last statement is. M21
 
He goes to different countries,soaks up the vibes then makes his own interpretation of whatever he's just witnessed, he went to Ghana and basically stole many song ideas from there too.
 
its interesting but I think the more knowledgeable music folks on bgol can chime in @DWBass
Chord progression is the same but the bridge is different. It's a trivial lawsuit but they'll win since CAC's make laws up as they go or completely ignore the current laws. I will say this song sounds way more similar than the Blurred Lines bullshit. That decision really pissed me off.
 

Ed Sheeran wins copyright infringement lawsuit involving Marvin Gaye's 'Let's Get It On'​


The estate of Ed Townsend, who cowrote the Gaye classic, had sued the Grammy winner for "striking similarities" between "Let's Get It On" and Sheeran's "Thinking Out Loud."
By Jessica WangMay 04, 2023 at 02:29 PM EDT




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A jury has ruled that Ed Sheeran did not steal components of Marvin Gaye's classic "Let's Get It On" when he wrote his 2014 hit "Thinking Out Loud."
The verdict came in a Manhattan court Thursday after a two-week copyright infringement trial between the English singer-songwriter and the estate of the late Ed Townsend, who cowrote the 1973 track with Gaye.
"I am obviously very happy with the outcome of the case," Sheeran said in a statement outside the courthouse, reports The New York Times. "At the same time, I am unbelievably frustrated that baseless claims like this are allowed to go to court at all."
An attorney for Sheeran did not immediately respond to EW's request for comment.
Sheeran called the copyright infringement allegations "insulting" on the stand Monday and even seemed to threaten to quit the music industry if he were to lose the trial. Both he and and "Thinking Out Loud" cowriter Amy Wage testified that the chords in question are a "common progression" used in several songs.

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Ed Sheeran at his copyright infringement trial in New York

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The estate of Townsend, however, argued that the track featured "striking similarities" and "overt common elements" to "Let's Get It On," with plaintiff attorney Ben Crump presenting concert footage of Sheeran performing the two songs together and calling it "smoking gun" proof of copyright infringement, reports the Associated Press.
Townsend's daughter Kathryn Townsend Griffin also testified, stating that although Sheeran is "a great artist with a great future" and she had hoped the lawsuit filed in 2017 would not result in a trial, she had to "protect my father's legacy."
"Thinking Out Loud" earned Sheeran his first Grammy. The singer won a separate copyright infringement lawsuit in the U.K. last year over his 2017 song "Shape of You." Following that victory, he slammed the "damaging" uptick in copyright suits against mainstream artists.

"I'm not an entity, I'm not a corporation — I'm a human being," Sheeran said at the time. "I'm a father, I'm a husband, I'm a son. Lawsuits are not a pleasant experience, and I hope that this ruling, it means in the future, baseless claims like this can be avoided."
 
not a lawyer and not a trained muscisian but never understood how you can sue because another song has 'striking similarities'
 
The moment Ed made his retirement "threat"?

I KNEW he was not only going to win but watch how these type of big budget cases start to be greatly reduced.
 
I'm glad he won, these are a bunch of lazy decedents of former artist and
Shiesty lawyers pushing this copyright infringement bullshit.

Congradulation to Ed Sheeran :cheers:
 
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