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Sorry we can do that in this instance. Ballin was everywhere, Oh Boy wasn’t

We can all agree to that, and I liked Oh Boy.

I'll give you that because it was picked up by sports teams so YES.

Your probably right.

But maybe I need you to DEFINE bigger?

Cause it's interesting how bgol for years claimed they ain't never heard Shake Off by Taylor Swift and I had to go 1 v 200 telling them they full of it. CAUSE THAT record was big and dudes claim it wasn't.

I will give you "bigger" in the sense that it was on commercials etc and crossed over. But I will check actual sales.

Because if you want argue bigger? That matters.

But you know what? For now? I'll say you right.
 
I'll give you that because it was picked up by sports teams so YES.

Your probably right.

But maybe I need you to DEFINE bigger?

Cause it's interesting how bgol for years claimed they ain't never heard Shake Off by Taylor Swift and I had to go 1 v 200 telling them they full of it. CAUSE THAT record was big and dudes claim it wasn't.

I will give you "bigger" in the sense that it was on commercials etc and crossed over. But I will check actual sales.

Because if you want argue bigger? That matters.

But you know what? For now? I'll say you right.
I don’t have sales numbers, spins, requests or any quantitive data. All I know is that everyone was saying Ballin and the record was huge.
 
Hmmm... okay I checked Oh Boy had more airplay more video play and sold more and charted slightly higher.

@dik cashmere

What was a BIGGER record back in the day Ballin or Oh Boy?
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Fun facr Jim jones appeared on other cam songs b4 oh boy and nobody cared or probably can remember any of them.. oh boy was the first track people took the other dipset members serious.. which opened up the dipset mixtapes.. b4 that a lot of people just thought dipset was a logo on a t-shirt that cam said.. thank you oh boy for giving the other artist burn.. once again there is no ballin if there is no oh boy.. oh boy was the bigger track for many reasons
 
Fun facr Jim jones appeared on other cam songs b4 oh boy and nobody cared or probably can remember any of them.. oh boy was the first track people took the other dipset members serious.. which opened up the dipset mixtapes.. b4 that a lot of people just thought dipset was a logo on a t-shirt that cam said.. thank you oh boy for giving the other artist burn.. once again there is no ballin if there is no oh boy.. oh boy was the bigger track for many reasons
Not saying you wrong but I remember finding out about Juelz and Cam at the same time. Honestly Cam pre Dipset was a joke down here. Only record I remember is the What Means the World to You remix and I think it was because it had Bun and Pimp on it. Whenever they hopped on a track with someone we didn’t know it was a stamp of approval. That’s what got me to listen to Jay.
 
Not saying you wrong but I remember finding out about Juelz and Cam at the same time. Honestly Cam pre Dipset was a joke down here. Only record I remember is the What Means the World to You remix and I think it was because it had Bun and Pimp on it. Whenever they hopped on a track with someone we didn’t know it was a stamp of approval. That’s what got me to listen to Jay.
Horse and carriage got lots of play all over bet..even in the remix…what means the world to you was played on bet uncut multiple times a week
 
Horse and carriage got lots of play all over bet..even in the remix…what means the world to you was played on bet uncut multiple times a week
Yeah them songs was corny to me growing up. I think it was the Mase effect on Horse and Carriage…But I was in the South and that shit just wasn’t getting played. But when Dipset era Cam came it was a different beast.
 
Yeah them songs was corny to me growing up. I think it was the Mase effect on Horse and Carriage…But I was in the South and that shit just wasn’t getting played. But when Dipset era Cam came it was a different beast.
Corny to you but cam got a gold albulm out of it and he still was the face of dipset and the one carrying the whole team


Until oh boy came out and people were like hey guys those dudes around cam just weren’t the entourage and hanger on
 
Compare Nas to anyone else,compare Nas latest work.

It's the same blind love that y'all have for certain artist off of shit they did in the beginning of their career,which was a lot of great shit, some of it the building blocks of rap but WE'RE TALKING 2025 NOT 1998 and if you're lucky to still be dropping music together remember your still going to get judged on what you've done lately.

It's in the same boat as motherfuckers running around claiming andre 3000 being the best rapper and the motherfucker is around here fluting it up but he's the best?

Nas is doing big business making millions,I don't give a fuck,we talking about hip-hop,rap music not no fucking corporate deals that's why some no name without a dollar in their pocket can record one song that'll smoke the socks off of Nas.
you always make the most retarded takes.
nas last album was not too long ago and it was a banger.
but that doesn't matter. Jordan hung it up years ago and still considered one if not the greatest. same with Ali. same with Bob Dylan. same with jack Nicholson. you don't shit on a legends name for clout and its punching low. get someone currently active. its pussy.
 
Hmmmm.... Let's not do that.

that's why I hate these debates there is no way to measure that. We gonna go check radio plays? Soundscan? Billboard?

Those were BOTH huge records.

Dip Set sold perfume and cologne off that record.

That song played EVERYWHERE on repeat and that video was in HEAVY rotation.

Sidebar: Funny thing I never liked that Ballin record much... and wished someone took the shades sample in the front and made a full record.

But it was an Anthem. Period.

But the girls LOVED that oh boy record. And BOUGHT IT. And it was catchy as f**k.

There is no real BIGGER. They were both just another huge dip set family hit.
The NFL used Balling on Monday night football
 
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