MS: If we can't make a profit in the year Halo 3 comes out, then when will we?

I think the big question is sony entertainment making a profit. The answer is yes. Microsoft is playing with numbers. It will be the first year that its entertainment section will make a profit for that year on the 360. It will take many years to erase the Xbox red ink. The zune player is also in the red because it's also being subsidized. PS3 also makes money because it pushes Blu-ray sales that sony also gets a portion of, on top of last generation system sales and PSP sales. Problem with microsoft is that there next gen system is due to run out of disc space by 2009 according to the systems developers that state that a DVD will be to small for the games they will push out. Will microsoft abandon you again like they did with the xbox when they bring out the Xbox 720? I say yes they have a history of abandoning products. Thats why I stopped fucking with them 10 years ago. The list.

WinCE
WebTV
Microsoft Bob
Sidewinder Joystick
IE6
Visual Basic 6
VBScript
UltimateTV
XBox

There are more but this is what comes to mind. Thats not the worst of it. Its when they suceed that scares me. When the crush a competitor they raise prices and lower quality. When they won the browser wars they stopped making advances, when they won the office suite wars they raised prices. Same with the OS wars. If they win the console war your next system will cost $1000 and they will charge $200 for live, then the will run it for the next 10 years without a replacement. This is the history of microsoft.
You get that from the Best Buy checkout teller? Stock boys are not involved in this kind of discussion
 
I think the big question is sony entertainment making a profit. The answer is yes. Microsoft is playing with numbers. It will be the first year that its entertainment section will make a profit for that year on the 360. It will take many years to erase the Xbox red ink. The zune player is also in the red because it's also being subsidized. PS3 also makes money because it pushes Blu-ray sales that sony also gets a portion of, on top of last generation system sales and PSP sales. Problem with microsoft is that there next gen system is due to run out of disc space by 2009 according to the systems developers that state that a DVD will be to small for the games they will push out. Will microsoft abandon you again like they did with the xbox when they bring out the Xbox 720? I say yes they have a history of abandoning products. Thats why I stopped fucking with them 10 years ago. The list.

WinCE
WebTV
Microsoft Bob
Sidewinder Joystick
IE6
Visual Basic 6
VBScript
UltimateTV
XBox

There are more but this is what comes to mind. Thats not the worst of it. Its when they suceed that scares me. When the crush a competitor they raise prices and lower quality. When they won the browser wars they stopped making advances, when they won the office suite wars they raised prices. Same with the OS wars. If they win the console war your next system will cost $1000 and they will charge $200 for live, then the will run it for the next 10 years without a replacement. This is the history of microsoft.




Sort of like what $ony did with the PS3 $600 :hmm: Every company does that shit. Microsoft is not the only company that wants your money. If $ony wins the format war how much do you think the are going to charge for a Blu-ray movie or player? Nintendo will do the same shit. :smh:


1991
New York State Vs. Nintendo
Case:Then-New York State Attorney General sues Nintendo, claiming they have an illegal monopoly on the video game market.
 
I think the big question is sony entertainment making a profit. The answer is yes. Microsoft is playing with numbers. It will be the first year that its entertainment section will make a profit for that year on the 360. It will take many years to erase the Xbox red ink. The zune player is also in the red because it's also being subsidized. PS3 also makes money because it pushes Blu-ray sales that sony also gets a portion of, on top of last generation system sales and PSP sales. Problem with microsoft is that there next gen system is due to run out of disc space by 2009 according to the systems developers that state that a DVD will be to small for the games they will push out. Will microsoft abandon you again like they did with the xbox when they bring out the Xbox 720? I say yes they have a history of abandoning products. Thats why I stopped fucking with them 10 years ago. The list.

WinCE
WebTV
Microsoft Bob
Sidewinder Joystick
IE6
Visual Basic 6
VBScript
UltimateTV
XBox

There are more but this is what comes to mind. Thats not the worst of it. Its when they suceed that scares me. When the crush a competitor they raise prices and lower quality. When they won the browser wars they stopped making advances, when they won the office suite wars they raised prices. Same with the OS wars. If they win the console war your next system will cost $1000 and they will charge $200 for live, then the will run it for the next 10 years without a replacement. This is the history of microsoft.
So you're sayin Microsoft is gonna do what Sony did? Sony thought they were #1 in console wars and charged over $600 for a system that didn't look any better on screen than the 360. Then on TOP OF THAT. They ain't got no games for the muthafucka. Niggas brought that shit a year ago talkin bout "I can't wait till MSG4 and some good games come out.":lol: :lol:
 
So you're sayin Microsoft is gonna do what Sony did? Sony thought they were #1 in console wars and charged over $600 for a system that didn't look any better on screen than the 360. Then on TOP OF THAT. They ain't got no games for the muthafucka. Niggas brought that shit a year ago talkin bout "I can't wait till MSG4 and some good games come out.":lol: :lol:
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Ownage!
 
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stop playing mighty, aint no one clowning xbox

and all yall wheres the mike eps security uniform for these microsoft defense team members?

its not a clowning post, i got into the heat of clowning from freaky_1's comments

but the thread is actually good news.. so why yall hating?

it says that they feel confident that they will finally make a profit from halo 3...

how is that bad news?

please tell me how that is bad news, cause i'm sure if you asked an MS representative they would say that they are excited about that news... oh wait, a microsoft rep did say that in the article posted

the faulty hardware is fact, before the MS said they would extend the warranty and dump over 1billion toward the faulty hardware (thats what hurt their profit), i would say it and post it

freaky and his microsoft defense team called me a hater and exagerating the numbers and reports

then weeks later MS admits faults

so am i a hater? or is freaky and co. just on the defense even when they are wrong?

its like your son being caught committing a crime on video tape and admitting it and your their mother saying my son wouldnt do that :lol:
 
its like your son being caught committing a crime on video tape and admitting it and your their mother saying my son wouldnt do that :lol:

The only crime here is makin a $600 game console wit no fuckin games...but oh wait...it can play blu-ray discs. Oh joy! Go buy some discs and watch movies while you wait for the fuckin games.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
The only crime here is makin a $600 game console wit no fuckin games...but oh wait...it can play blu-ray discs. Oh joy! Go buy some discs and watch movies while you wait for the fuckin games.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

:lol:

i dont even own a ps3

and the comments were made by a microsoft representative

what the fuck are yall talking about?

and the price? i keep telling people the price is only an issue for those who think they cant afford it

my 360 did not total $399 after accesorries, and dont tell me wifi is not a neccessary, i am not running cable through my house and i didnt buy a wireless router so i could run cable
 
This dude laughing but I ahven't heard of and PS 3 game getting 1/10th the buzz that Halo 3 or Boishock has gotten. Whne the PS 3 get's some games then talk shit.

Guess you never heard of Warhawk or MGS4?

Ya'll don't have to worry about Sony making a profit. PSP and Ps2 regularly outsell the 360 not to mention they make hdtvs, stereo receivers, etc, etc... Meanwhile Microsucks has to fix every piece of shit console that breaks down for free :smh:

Lol at cats mad cuz they can't afford an ps3
 
Jagi you cool with me regardless if i can set a clock to your anti errr xbox360 posts :lol:

here is some good news the cheaper cooler 65mm chips are released out into the wild

xbox-360-heatsink.jpg


http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/28/65nm-xbox-360s-starting-to-trickle-out/

The pics from Engadget are from xbox.com/forums and that machine was purchased in Canada not the U.S.
 
:hmm::confused:

Sound like some dumb ass theory Sony execs came up wit in the boardroom before PS3 launch.

:lol:


Xbox 360 : $379.99
Gold Xbox Live Subscription: $49.99
Wireless Networking Adapter: $99.99
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99
Two Play and Charge Kits: $19.99 times two.
HD-DVD: $179*
Total: $839.94


Now most people will and can forget the dvd attachment, so if you remove the extra controller and the dvd attachment its

$600
_______

Playstation 3 standard: $599
PS3 Network Platform: Free
Wireless Networking Adapter: Built-in
Blu-ray player: Built-in
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99*
USB charge cables: Free
Total: $648.99





ooohhhh a 48 dollar difference, but wait on the same turn if you remove the second controller then its also $600


its not affording the ps3 its the lack of games

please get off the "it cost too much" bandwagon
 
Guess you never heard of Warhawk or MGS4?

Ya'll don't have to worry about Sony making a profit. PSP and Ps2 regularly outsell the 360 not to mention they make hdtvs, stereo receivers, etc, etc... Meanwhile Microsucks has to fix every piece of shit console that breaks down for free :smh:

Lol at cats mad cuz they can't afford an ps3

according to the NPD the 360 has been regularly outselling the ps2 since august. If sony was betting the farm on staying afloat with its old console that would be some really sad shit :smh:

as for dollar amounts do you really think sony is in a better position than microsoft? dude i would love to get a hit on what ever it is you are smoking that shit is stronger than a mutherfucker :lol:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=msft
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=SNE
 
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Xbox 360 : $379.99
Gold Xbox Live Subscription: $49.99 <- optional
Wireless Networking Adapter: $99.99 <- optional
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99 <- optional
Two Play and Charge Kits: $19.99 times two. < - optional
HD-DVD: $179*< - optional
Total: $839.94


Now most people will and can forget the dvd attachment, so if you remove the extra controller and the dvd attachment its

$600
_______

Playstation 3 standard: $599
PS3 Network Platform: Free
Wireless Networking Adapter: Built-in
Blu-ray player: Built-in
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99* <- optional
USB charge cables: Free
Total: $648.99





ooohhhh a 48 dollar difference, but wait on the same turn if you remove the second controller then its also $600


its not affording the ps3 its the lack of games

please get off the "it cost too much" bandwagon

lots of "optional" things on your list clouding those numbers:lol:

dude embrace your bias its all good there are a bunch of different fanboys here we respect them all
 
:lol:


Xbox 360 : $379.99
Gold Xbox Live Subscription: $49.99
Wireless Networking Adapter: $99.99
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99
Two Play and Charge Kits: $19.99 times two.
HD-DVD: $179*
Total: $839.94


Now most people will and can forget the dvd attachment, so if you remove the extra controller and the dvd attachment its

$600
_______

Playstation 3 standard: $599
PS3 Network Platform: Free
Wireless Networking Adapter: Built-in
Blu-ray player: Built-in
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99*
USB charge cables: Free
Total: $648.99





ooohhhh a 48 dollar difference, but wait on the same turn if you remove the second controller then its also $600


its not affording the ps3 its the lack of games

please get off the "it cost too much" bandwagon
Bruh. U addin up all that extra shit.lolllllllllllll

FUCK HD-DVD. FUCK WIRELESS. FUCK NETWORKING ADAPTERS.

All that shit is extra and can be purchased later. U tryin to show how PS3 is cheaper if you buy EVERY fuckin XBOX accessory.:lol: U spent $648.99 but ain't got no games to play. And yeah I know...you didn't buy a PS3, you brought the "inferior" 360.
 
according to the NPD the 360 has been regularly outselling the ps2 since august. If sony was betting the farm on staying afloat with its old console that would be some really sad shit :smh:

as for dollar amounts do you really think sony is in a better position than microsoft? dude i would love to get a hit on what ever it is you are smoking that shit is stronger than a mutherfucker :lol:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=msft
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=SNE

I don't think Sony is going bankrupt any time soon.:hmm:

Sony Revenue ¥8,295.695 billion YEN ($70.303 billion USD) (2007)

Microshit Revenue US $51.12 billion (2007)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft
 
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stop playing mighty, aint no one clowning xbox

and all yall wheres the mike eps security uniform for these microsoft defense team members?

its not a clowning post, i got into the heat of clowning from freaky_1's comments

but the thread is actually good news.. so why yall hating?

it says that they feel confident that they will finally make a profit from halo 3...

how is that bad news?

please tell me how that is bad news, cause i'm sure if you asked an MS representative they would say that they are excited about that news... oh wait, a microsoft rep did say that in the article posted

the faulty hardware is fact, before the MS said they would extend the warranty and dump over 1billion toward the faulty hardware (thats what hurt their profit), i would say it and post it

freaky and his microsoft defense team called me a hater and exagerating the numbers and reports

then weeks later MS admits faults

so am i a hater? or is freaky and co. just on the defense even when they are wrong?

its like your son being caught committing a crime on video tape and admitting it and your their mother saying my son wouldnt do that :lol:
Your title is very misleading. I'll leave it at that.
 
Guess you never heard of Warhawk or MGS4?

Ya'll don't have to worry about Sony making a profit. PSP and Ps2 regularly outsell the 360 not to mention they make hdtvs, stereo receivers, etc, etc... Meanwhile Microsucks has to fix every piece of shit console that breaks down for free :smh:

Lol at cats mad cuz they can't afford an ps3
I stand by my statement.
 
Never heard of Warhawk. What it do?

How do you know when you've got something special on your hands? It could be what happens when you take the power of a new console to make a spiritual successor to an earlier title, using the hardware to accomplish things that weren't possible years before. Maybe it becomes apparent when you can completely change the primary focus of a title and discover that the redesign is much stronger than the original concept. Or perhaps it's the new concept that generates and sustains momentum for your product by itself. In the case of Warhawk, all of the above definitely apply.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/816/816472p1.html



Heres some more games that aren't getting any buzz :rolleyes:


Uncharted Drakes Fortune
[flash]http://www.gametrailers.com/remote_wrap.php?mid=22100[/flash]

Killzone
[flash]http://www.gametrailers.com/remote_wrap.php?mid=21490[/flash]

Metal Gear Solid
[flash]http://www.gametrailers.com/remote_wrap.php?mid=21582[/flash]

White Knight
[flash]http://www.gametrailers.com/remote_wrap.php?umid=86435[/flash]
 
:lol: @ freaky calling people fanboys!

pot-kettle-black.jpg



Uh isn't this thread about profits :confused:

exactly, this guy has some nerve. The way he cries and complains whenever someone bash the xbox 360 you would think they he actually stood to make a profit from the 360. He made a post about how much money Halo3 made in its first day now he dont care about how much money MS makes.
 
:lol:


Xbox 360 : $379.99
Gold Xbox Live Subscription: $49.99
Wireless Networking Adapter: $99.99
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99
Two Play and Charge Kits: $19.99 times two.
HD-DVD: $179*
Total: $839.94


Now most people will and can forget the dvd attachment, so if you remove the extra controller and the dvd attachment its

$600
_______

Playstation 3 standard: $599
PS3 Network Platform: Free
Wireless Networking Adapter: Built-in
Blu-ray player: Built-in
Second Wireless Controller: $49.99*
USB charge cables: Free
Total: $648.99





ooohhhh a 48 dollar difference, but wait on the same turn if you remove the second controller then its also $600


its not affording the ps3 its the lack of games

please get off the "it cost too much" bandwagon
Come on now fam you don't need any of that extra (optional) shit out of the box to play games on your 360 :smh: :smh: The only thing that is even remotely necessary on that list is XBL and hell you even get a free month of that out of the box :hmm:
 
from someone who has both systems

PS 3 is horrible with line up and most games run smoother on Xbox.

now the xbox system just sucks though. not the whole quality of games or graphics just the system. I know ever system has problem but damn this one has serious ones.

both systems have problems but since I beat Bioshock. I think I will be done buy majority of the games on the system. So if it goes three red lights again I have more games to play on PS 3.
 
Bruh. U addin up all that extra shit.lolllllllllllll

FUCK HD-DVD. FUCK WIRELESS. FUCK NETWORKING ADAPTERS.

All that shit is extra and can be purchased later. U tryin to show how PS3 is cheaper if you buy EVERY fuckin XBOX accessory.:lol: U spent $648.99 but ain't got no games to play. And yeah I know...you didn't buy a PS3, you brought the "inferior" 360.


He added up everything but the kitchen sink. :lol::lol::lol::roflmao:
 
The xbox project hasn't even been out that long and it's a brand new venture for MS, what the fuck are they expecting this early in the game?

I can't see Bill being that naive to believe that by the 2nd console they would be making money out the ass.

I don't know what your talking about, but the Xbox project started in 01-02 being the second console they release and still not bringing MS any major profit is ridiculous. Maybe if they would quit trying to buy small game making company's to have "exclusives"
on the Xbox they would get somewhere. :dunno:
 
Sony has alot more to lose if blu ray doesn't catch on or the ps3 comes in last place

microsoft Gross Profit :40.43B
sony Gross Profit :15.86B

but going back and forth like this proves what exactly?

right? :cool:

Really :confused:

List of Sony Trademarks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_trademarks

Sony Corporation shareholders and subsidiaries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corporation_shareholders_and_subsidiaries

But your right going back and forth proves nada cuz like freaky said we don't see any of the money. Ultimately all three systems will co exist. The only one who couldn't afford to lose was Nintendo and they're winning!:yes:
 
I do need the wireless

I do need the xbox live

I do need an xtra controller

and if you read teh price war i listed i did remove the hd dvd and teh xtra controller to compare the prices

its the same price


so while yall may not want wireless etc

for me to have the set up i want


yes the price is the same


for me


so price is not an option

games are which is why i chose the 360
 
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