I was like
I've always had a thing for her..
I thought that was dude...Rami is killing this role. I love this shit, even though it has me as confused as True Detective at times!!!
MR. ROBOT Official Discussion Thread (New Season starts Oct.6)
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I thought that was dude...Rami is killing this role. I love this shit, even though it has me as confused as True Detective at times!!!
thought I was the only one the lips on her...
That's why Darlene went crazy and wanted so badly to start the overheating of E-corp's servers because they killed her dad as well being that she is Elliott's sister. That's why she was so emotional that night and didn't care if the dark army did their part or not.
So it seems as though Tyrell and his wife want to see E-corp go down as well. Is it for personal reasons like with Elliot or business reasons?
And Gideon GoddardGideon Goddard is on Elliot's ass. Gideaon is on his Black A Camus "I trusted him".
Interesting that they choose to make Gideon Goddard the only "honest man" man the show
Man...
That's why Darlene went crazy and wanted so badly to start the overheating of E-corp's servers because they killed her dad as well being that she is Elliott's sister. That's why she was so emotional that night and didn't care if the dark army did their part or not.
So it seems as though Tyrell and his wife want to see E-corp go down as well. Is it for personal reasons like with Elliot or business reasons?
And Gideon Goddard
God was patient with Gideon because he had chosen him to defeat the Midianites, who had impoverished the land of Israel with their constant raids. Gideon gathered a huge army from the surrounding tribes, but God reduced their number to only 300. There would be no doubt that victory was from the Lord, not from the army's might.
That night, Gideon gave each man a trumpet and a torch concealed inside a pottery jar. At his signal, they blew their trumpets, broke the jars to reveal the torches, and shouted: "A sword for the LORD and for Gideon!" (Judges 7:20, NIV)
http://christianity.about.com/od/oldtestamentpeople/a/Gideon.htm
I wonder if this is a sign of things to come in the second season
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The dialogue (and monologues) on this show are fucking epic. Like... jaw droppingly epic.
Well look what I just found: The fappening continues
Stephanie Corneliussen
I see why Tyrell knocked her up.
is it bad that i've had that "you're crazy" conversation in my head more than a few times?
nope
I've had the damn internal debate with another voice presenting corroborating evidence cuz.
Man listen...this last episode was mind fucking on another level. Sam Esmail needs to win several accolades for this show!!
Here's what made me literally applaud the show after it ended: the entire ballet scene in the beginning.
I was watching like "maybe I missed something earlier, because I don't remember Darlene and Angela meeting, oh well."
Then the revel at the end, I'm like "Holy shit! Angela and Darlene know each other because of Elliott!!"
Then the next mind fuck when Elliott asked Darlene in episode 1 how she knew his address she responded "Why wouldn't I know where you live?"
And then when Elliott asked Mr. Robot the same question he was like "thats a mindful you're not ready for like going down a deep K-hole"
Amazing
Here's what made me literally applaud the show after it ended: the entire ballet scene in the beginning.
I was watching like "maybe I missed something earlier, because I don't remember Darlene and Angela meeting, oh well."
Then the revel at the end, I'm like "Holy shit! Angela and Darlene know each other because of Elliott!!"
Then the next mind fuck when Elliott asked Darlene in episode 1 how she knew his address she responded "Why wouldn't I know where you live?"
And then when Elliott asked Mr. Robot the same question he was like "thats a mindful you're not ready for like going down a deep K-hole"
Amazing
its going to come out that something really fucked HIM UP and probably by evilcorp which is why we're here in the first place.
revenge for what they did to his son.
If Mr. Robot is real, then it's more than likely a response to something Evil Corp did to Elliott. Which would also make sense when Darlene was so mad when they first couldn't launch the attack after the Dark Army bailed. She was so hurt because she wants revenge for Elliott.
That would make sense.
Damn...I think that's it.
Something about the lips..reminds me of a young Angelina Jolie..
* boom
Damn thanks for point out those little details...this show is a mind fuck for real!
Michael Bazzell, Mr. Robot’s technical consultant. Bazzell worked for 15 years as cyber crime detective—10 of which he spent with the FBI’s cyber crime task force—before Sam Esmail, one of Mr. Robot’s directors, tapped him as an expert to work on the show. Now a cyber crime security consultant, Bazzell spoke with us about Mr. Robot’s emphasis on accuracy and attention to detail and how it has managed to separate itself from cyber crime movies and television shows of the past.
Critics have praised Mr. Robot as one of the most accurate displays of hacking ever on television or in movies. How is Mr. Robot really getting it right in your opinion?
I think it is Sam [Esmail], 100 percent. When I first saw the early version of the pilot—which I had no influence on whatsoever—I knew that Sam not only understood hacking but had a very good grasp on it. Instead of showing hackers typing frantically and bypassing every firewall in a system, he focused right away on social engineering, email phishing and the more realistic ways that criminals will get to your information. Then there is all of the computer code. We make any computer code shown on the screen accurate. We don’t need to fake it. There is no reason to put random characters up to please the audience. We want that code to be accurate so that even the most sophisticated hacker or technical person out there will not roll their eyes at a scene.
The moment that there is a problem or something that isn’t 100% perfect, Sam is willing to change whatever needs to be changed to make it right—whether that means dialogue, changing the scene or changing where that scene goes. He is so concerned with accuracy that he is willing to sacrifice some of the story line if he has to.
So the Mr. Robot team has made concessions for accuracy even when trying to move a story line forward?
We have. We have had a couple of scenes where there was a general place that we wanted to get to, but the technology and the hack being used didn’t really play out. It was not very realistic, it was not even plausible and we corrected it.
What was it about that first episode that really piqued your interest and ultimately led to your involvement in Mr. Robot?
I think for me it wasn’t necessarily the technology. It was the moment that I realized that Elliot was that moral ethical hacker that’s not motivated by money. He has a bigger view of things. He is more worried about doing what is right and what he should be doing versus what will line his wallet. That’s when I was sold and that’s when I couldn’t wait to be involved, whether to provide accuracy or a storyline.
That episode opens with a scene in which viewers learn that Elliot hacked a coffee shop owner who was running handful of child pornography sites. Elliot admits to tipping off the authorities and there is a subsequent bust. Is this a realistic scenario?
Those busts happen in a lot of different ways. Obviously, there are a lot of tips that come in but the FBI can’t bust in a door based on a tip but they can investigate, to prove a tip accurate or inaccurate. In that scene, that type of scenario is very plausible if the authorities received not only a tip but digital evidence that supports that tip. They could absolutely obtain a search warrant, an arrest warrant and seize computers. That happens quite a bit. Law enforcement does have many proactive operations to look for this stuff all the time and I would say that the majority of busts result from proactive investigations but also there are a good number of cases where that tip leads you to finding a person. I have had several cases where a single person’s tip has led to multiple arrests across the country and in a couple of cases even led to lifetime prison sentences.
Let’s take a broader view for a second. Can you talk to me about hacking in general and the biggest lessons you learned about it during your time working as a cyber crime investigator?
Sure, I think there are some really big misconceptions surrounding hacking. Our society has attached a negative connotation to the word hacker that has just seemed to have stuck around forever. I would like to separate hackers from criminals. Many people believe that hackers are these evil misfits that operate individually in dark basements and are all motivated by money or a desire to cause unnecessary evil. In reality, hackers are often simply very smart people that work in groups to bring change. Sometimes they are misguided and inappropriate, but they often use their skills to expose hidden details of governments and corporations. Obviously this crosses the line of overexposure often, but most hackers believe that their actions are justified.
In regards to criminal hackers and organizations, a misconception is that they are these unorganized clusters of criminals targeting individuals. But in reality, these groups are very organized, their attacks are very sophisticated and they are very focused on specific goals. When we hear about a major data breach, it is unlikely that an individual criminal made that happen. It is more likely that it was a group effort and that it probably took a long time.
Let’s dig into this concept of hacking for the ‘greater good’ and social justice. Do you think that Elliot and the F-Society are an accurate portrayal of real hackers, as opposed to this idea of a criminal hacker in a basement who is attacking individuals for money?
I do. I think it is completely accurate. Hackers are not just misfits that live off of stolen credit card money. They have real jobs and real lives, but they also have a desire to make change and do the right thing—even if that does mean breaking the law. I don’t think that the real world has a true understanding of these people. I think many think of them as these evil, dark criminals that just sit and laugh at the evil that they are doing. In reality, a lot of the hackers are real people, with real feelings and are relatable.
So would you say that there is a typical profile of a hacker? Or is that too difficult to pin down?
I don’t think that there is. There are so many types of hackers and there are so many types of criminal hackers. There are people who are truly not social whatsoever and there are people who are very social. I have worked with a lot of people in the hacking community and in the network security community and it takes all types. I don’t think that there is one profile, but I will say that the thing the majority of those that I have met and that I have worked with have in common is a skill set and a knowledge that just isn’t replicated a lot in the rest of the world.
What have television shows and movies gotten wrong in the past about hacking? Is there one thing that you think Mr. Robot is getting right that others didn’t?
I think that a lot of shows in the past focused too much on unrealistic hacking that happens immediately. I have seen many scenes where in order to hack faster, they type faster. I have even seen scenes where two people are typing on one keyboard in order to get the hack done twice as fast. That’s just not realistic.
What I also love about this show is that it’s not afraid to fail. All hacks don’t work. Even the best hacker is going to fail. Things are going to go wrong. In most of the hacking shows and movies that I have watched, every hack works perfectly. They get the job done and they get it done in ten seconds. In Mr. Robot, Sam is not afraid to show failures and things that just don’t work. When that happens, a true hacker doesn’t quit. He or she goes back to the drawing board and finds a new solution. That is realistic.
Are there any aspects of hacking that simply don’t translate to the screen?
The biggest thing is time. I think that the hardest to thing to show is that hacking involves repetitive work that takes a long time. Obviously you can’t show 15 hours of a person letting a computer program run but I think that Sam has done a very good job letting the viewer understand that hacking doesn’t happen overnight but takes time, planning and proper execution. A lot of the hacking shows that we have seen up to this point simply cheat, allow the hack to happen in ten seconds and allow the hackers to get lucky.
Are there any scenes that really stand out to you in particular as really great examples of what hacking looks like in the real world?
There are but they are in upcoming episodes and I would never provide a spoiler. I will say that viewers will see within weeks those types of scenes and I am really excited to see how they play out.
Behind The Masks
Guy Fawkes mask favored by hacker collective Anonymous IRL
Not Necessarily The Smartest Guys In The Room
E Corp (aka "Evil Corp") logo and that of Enron, the energy, commodities, and services company involved in one of the largest business scandals in American History. Enron was one of the few companies to survive the Internet-bubble burst in 2000, only to obliterate the pensions and life savings of it's many employees when its shady dealings finally came to light.
The Mountain Is Real
Steel Mountain -- the bunker-like data storage facility Elliott and fsociety attempt to access -- is based on Iron Mountain, a high security storage company.
Using CDs To Hide In Plain Site
U.S. Army Private First Class Manning (then referred to as Bradley Manning) saved 91,000 secret documents to CD-RW labeled "Lady Gaga." Like Manning, Elliot hides his secret files in plain site
Sabu's LulzSec And "The Omegs" Leader
Hector “Sabu” Monsegur, of real-life hacker collective LulzSec, gets a nod and a wink early on in "Mr. Robot" when fsecurity discusses fictional hacker collective, "The Omegs" who were sold out to the FBI by their "leader." Whether "Sabu" was actually the "leader" of the hackers he turned into the FBI is contested among those he helped send to jail.
Hackers For Hire
The "Dark Army" hacker collective fsociety wants to help take down E Corp could be based on any number of hackers-for-hire found on the Dark Net. This includes IRL Dark Seoul, which also appears as the name on an arcade game at fsociety's headquarters. There's also the IRL mercenaries behind the Darkness DDoS bot you can buy to "take down" the system of your choice.
"Hackers"
"Hackers"
In case you haven't heard that "Mr. Robot" is the most realistic depiction of hacking in entertainment ever, the show is happy to point it out. In episode 4, as Elliot detoxes in a hotel room, his fellow fsociety members, Romero and Mobley, watch the 1995 movie Hackers on TV. “Hollywood hacker bulls***," Romero says. "I’ve been in the game 27 years, and not once have I ever come across an animated singing virus.
The Book Matters
Leo Tolstoy's Resurrection is the well-worn book we've see see Mr. Robot (Christian Slater) reading on a number of occasions. It's got oppression, economic inequity, classicism, an unfair legal system -- everything Elliot hates most.
Also, He's In The "Night At The Museum" Movies
This isn't so much an Easter egg as it is just fun to point out to people who don't remember. Anyone who thinks Rami Malek's Elliot, with his flat affect and monotone drone isn't terrific acting need only view the actor's turn as the Oxford-educated Pharaoh Ahkmenrah in the Night at the Museum series.
Christian Slater Is Important
Casting Christian Slater seems almost a jinx on the surface, given his last few failed attempts at TV, but to Gen-Xers, he remains the countercultural signifier he established as the anarchic would-be terrorist in Heathers. As the eponymous Mr. Robot, he is the ultimate Easter egg in a show that's all about what's hidden.
Guy Fawkes mask favored by hacker collective Anonymous IRL
Not Necessarily The Smartest Guys In The Room
E Corp (aka "Evil Corp") logo and that of Enron, the energy, commodities, and services company involved in one of the largest business scandals in American History. Enron was one of the few companies to survive the Internet-bubble burst in 2000, only to obliterate the pensions and life savings of it's many employees when its shady dealings finally came to light.
The Mountain Is Real
Steel Mountain -- the bunker-like data storage facility Elliott and fsociety attempt to access -- is based on Iron Mountain, a high security storage company.
Using CDs To Hide In Plain Site
U.S. Army Private First Class Manning (then referred to as Bradley Manning) saved 91,000 secret documents to CD-RW labeled "Lady Gaga." Like Manning, Elliot hides his secret files in plain site
Sabu's LulzSec And "The Omegs" Leader
Hector “Sabu” Monsegur, of real-life hacker collective LulzSec, gets a nod and a wink early on in "Mr. Robot" when fsecurity discusses fictional hacker collective, "The Omegs" who were sold out to the FBI by their "leader." Whether "Sabu" was actually the "leader" of the hackers he turned into the FBI is contested among those he helped send to jail.
Hackers For Hire
The "Dark Army" hacker collective fsociety wants to help take down E Corp could be based on any number of hackers-for-hire found on the Dark Net. This includes IRL Dark Seoul, which also appears as the name on an arcade game at fsociety's headquarters. There's also the IRL mercenaries behind the Darkness DDoS bot you can buy to "take down" the system of your choice.
"Hackers"
"Hackers"
In case you haven't heard that "Mr. Robot" is the most realistic depiction of hacking in entertainment ever, the show is happy to point it out. In episode 4, as Elliot detoxes in a hotel room, his fellow fsociety members, Romero and Mobley, watch the 1995 movie Hackers on TV. “Hollywood hacker bulls***," Romero says. "I’ve been in the game 27 years, and not once have I ever come across an animated singing virus.
The Book Matters
Leo Tolstoy's Resurrection is the well-worn book we've see see Mr. Robot (Christian Slater) reading on a number of occasions. It's got oppression, economic inequity, classicism, an unfair legal system -- everything Elliot hates most.
Also, He's In The "Night At The Museum" Movies
This isn't so much an Easter egg as it is just fun to point out to people who don't remember. Anyone who thinks Rami Malek's Elliot, with his flat affect and monotone drone isn't terrific acting need only view the actor's turn as the Oxford-educated Pharaoh Ahkmenrah in the Night at the Museum series.
Christian Slater Is Important
Casting Christian Slater seems almost a jinx on the surface, given his last few failed attempts at TV, but to Gen-Xers, he remains the countercultural signifier he established as the anarchic would-be terrorist in Heathers. As the eponymous Mr. Robot, he is the ultimate Easter egg in a show that's all about what's hidden.
I still believe Mr. Robot is Elliot's Dead dad. If you re-watch episode one the first time they show Elliot meeting with his doctor she says to Elliot "I know you're not yelling like before which is good" during the meeting Elliot keeps saying "FUCK SOCIETY" he blacks out in his head and goes off, his mannerisms change and everything he gets dark and it's more like Mr.Robot than Elliot but we wouldn't realize this because we haven't met Mr.Robot yet. The Doctor says Elliot has anger issues he's angry at everyone seemed more like she was describing the Mr.Robot character that hasn't been presented to us not cool calm Elliot. It's as if he has a split personality. She said she knows Elliot has a lot to be angry about but keeping it to himself and bottled up is unhealthy. I think he finally lets it out as Mr.Robot.
And Elliot dies at the end of season 1
And Elliot dies at the end of season 1
Wtf????????????
And Elliot dies at the end of season 1
I swear man you better not be posting no spoilers...
I swear man you better not be posting no spoilers...
I think he dies man. I read between the lines.
Another sign that Elliot is living in a world of his own creation. He refers to E corp as "Evil Corp" far too often and at times that he really REALLY shouldn't, but then so does everyone else.
For instance, when you work for a security firm that gets almost all of their money protecting E-Corp from constants hacks you don't call the company Evil Corp right in front of your boss and expect to keep your job.
For instance, when you work for a security firm that gets almost all of their money protecting E-Corp from constants hacks you don't call the company Evil Corp right in front of your boss and expect to keep your job.
During a voice over in the pilot Elliot mentioned that he reprogrammed himself to process e corp as evil corp anytime somebody mentions it or w.e. We are viewing the world through Elliot's perspective.
I just know mister robot better not turnout to be real I'm throwing shit!
After Elliot and Gideon have a heart-to-heart, Elliot finds Slater kicking back in an Allsafe cubicle. The two have a testy, profane conversation that nearly comes to blows, yet no one in the office bats an eye. Come to think of it, how did he get past security to begin with? How would he have gained access to Allsafe and come into Elliott's job unquestioned by anyone?
How did he gain access to Elliott's apartment with the door locked and Elliot and Angela right outside the door the whole time?
Romero only looks at Elliot when he opens the door for him and Slater.
Elliot asks Darlene, “Where’s your boss?” to which she rolls her eyes and remarks, “Cut the bullshit. When are you gonna give us access to the root directory?” 'Cause, ya know, he’s the boss.
Bartender looks at Elliot sideways for ordering an appletini, even though Slater’s already slurping one down beside him. For that matter, the drink-slinger doesn’t even acknowledge Slater.
While looking at Steel Mountain blueprints, Slater wedges himself between Elliot and Darlene and reiterates, “You sure you don’t wanna just blow it up?” to utter crickets from the crew.
Slater’s in the backseat of Fsociety’s van as they infiltrate Steel Mountain, barking orders over Romero and Mobley’s shoulders to Elliot via his earpiece. Romero and Mobley don’t so much as flinch, budge, react, or recoil at him shouting obstinately in their eardrums while they’re trying to focus.
It’s Elliot whom Tyrell sees beside him in that SUV not Mr.Robot. Tyrell rushes home from their meeting and rants to his wife about the Allsafe tech who can help him see God. But he supposedly just met with Mr.Robot why talk about Elliot?
Last but not least the blank CD in Elliot's collection unlocks folders of images making it plain that Slater is his father, frozen in time, down to the dusty Mr. Robot jacket dude has somehow figured out a hack to aging
Oh and p.s. Elliot dies in two weeks
After Elliot and Gideon have a heart-to-heart, Elliot finds Slater kicking back in an Allsafe cubicle. The two have a testy, profane conversation that nearly comes to blows, yet no one in the office bats an eye. Come to think of it, how did he get past security to begin with? How would he have gained access to Allsafe and come into Elliott's job unquestioned by anyone?
How did he gain access to Elliott's apartment with the door locked and Elliot and Angela right outside the door the whole time?
Romero only looks at Elliot when he opens the door for him and Slater.
Elliot asks Darlene, “Where’s your boss?” to which she rolls her eyes and remarks, “Cut the bullshit. When are you gonna give us access to the root directory?” 'Cause, ya know, he’s the boss.
Bartender looks at Elliot sideways for ordering an appletini, even though Slater’s already slurping one down beside him. For that matter, the drink-slinger doesn’t even acknowledge Slater.
While looking at Steel Mountain blueprints, Slater wedges himself between Elliot and Darlene and reiterates, “You sure you don’t wanna just blow it up?” to utter crickets from the crew.
Slater’s in the backseat of Fsociety’s van as they infiltrate Steel Mountain, barking orders over Romero and Mobley’s shoulders to Elliot via his earpiece. Romero and Mobley don’t so much as flinch, budge, react, or recoil at him shouting obstinately in their eardrums while they’re trying to focus.
It’s Elliot whom Tyrell sees beside him in that SUV not Mr.Robot. Tyrell rushes home from their meeting and rants to his wife about the Allsafe tech who can help him see God. But he supposedly just met with Mr.Robot why talk about Elliot?
Last but not least the blank CD in Elliot's collection unlocks folders of images making it plain that Slater is his father, frozen in time, down to the dusty Mr. Robot jacket dude has somehow figured out a hack to aging
Oh and p.s. Elliot dies in two weeks
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