Movie News: Paramount Has Canceled 'Star Trek 4,' And Disney's 'Star Wars' Is To Blame UPDATE: WTF?!

It's amazing, it's it?
Who'd have ever believed that in 2019, the 2 biggest scifi franchises in history are now both at all time lows among fans. (Star Wars and Star Trek). :eek2:
It's also interesting to note that when these franchises took a more SJW/Progressive/Feminist/Liberal approach to their subject matter, ALL of them fell off in box office numbers, ratings and fan approval.
- Star Wars. (The Last Jedi)
- Star Trek. (Star Trek: Beyond with a gay Sulu and Star Trek: Discovery in general)
- Dr. Who. (Female Doctor)

Let's see if this trend spreads to Disney/Marvel with this upcoming film:
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:idea:

There is a new tag line floating around online these days in regard to scifi: "Once you go "Woke", you go Broke..."
We'll just have to wait and see, I guess...:dunno:

discovery is arguably the best star trek series. i don't mind a fourth movie not coming.

if you have a real home theater watching discovery is like being at the movies.
 
Next film series should be a remake of The Next Generation characters.

Basically get new actors to play Picard, Riker, Troi, Dara, LeForge, Worf, etc...

it would be very hard to replace picard. he is way too iconic. i can't see anyone else saying, "make it so." or "engage!"

they got lucky with kirk/pine.
 
no its complete shit
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and its losing money fast
Trekkies hate it and CBS can't get effective distribution of it - CBS stream is difficult to get in most parts of the world including half of North America
the show is being pirated more than streamed =the bad thing is pirates don't fuck with the show either so viewers could wait weeks to see an episode that just streamed

i am a trekkie. my mother is a trekkie. i have trekkie friends. we all can't wait to see the next episode.

again, this is arguably the best star trek series.
 
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Next film series should be a remake of The Next Generation characters.

Basically get new actors to play Picard, Riker, Troi, Dara, LeForge, Worf, etc...

it would be very hard to replace picard. he is way too iconic. i can't see anyone else saying, "make it so." or "engage!"

they got lucky with kirk/pine.

wait, yall aint know?

January 08, 2019 2:00pm PT by Aaron Couch, Lesley Goldberg
'Star Trek' Boss: Picard Leads "Radically Altered" Life in CBS All Access Series
picard_0.jpg



What is the next chapter in the life of Jean-Luc Picard?

That's the question Star Trek diehards have been asking since August, when Patrick Stewart officially boarded an untitled CBS All Access series that will see him play Picard for the first time since 2002's Star Trek: Nemesis. Little is known about the plot of the show, which has been described as an exploration of the next chapter of Picard's life. Fans have speculated that it will find him serving as an ambassador, just as Leonard Nimoy's Spock did in the later years of his life.

Now, Trek captain Alex Kurtzman is pulling back the curtain on the upcoming project, revealing that a cataclysmic event depicted in J.J. Abrams' 2009 Star Trek movieimpacted Picard in a big way. In that film, written by Kurtzman and former producing partner Roberto Orci, it was revealed that Nimoy's Spock failed to save the Romulan homeworld Romulus from a supernova several years after the events of Nemesis.

Now, Kurtzman — as part of a Creative Space interview with The Hollywood Reporter (posting Wednesday) — is ready to reveal one massive clue about the premise of hisCBS All Access Picard effort, due in late 2019:"Picard's life was radically altered by the dissolution of the Romulan Empire," Kurtzman tells THR.






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Patrick Stewart to Reprise 'Star Trek' Role in New CBS All Access Series

The Picard series will be the first onscreen Trek story set in the aftermath of that event, which would have altered the balance of power in the galaxy. The destruction of Romulus would also have extra resonance for Picard, who has a long and complicated relationship with the Romulans, the alien race that split from Vulcan society thousands of years ago and founded a separate civilization. The Romulans went on to control a portion of the galaxy, and the empire was in opposition to the Federation for all of Picard's career.

One of his goals as captain of the Enterprise was seeking a peace between the Romulan Empire and the Federation. Picard teamed with Spock during the events of the Next Generation two-part story "Unification," in which they learned that Romulans claiming to seek a peaceful reunification with the Vulcans were actually planning a secret takeover. And in the events of Nemesis, Picard faced off with a clone of himself (Tom Hardy) created by the Romulans.

Kurtzman says Stewart agreed to return only if he could defy what people are used to seeing with Trek. "He threw down an amazing gauntlet and said, 'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?' " Kurtzman recalls of their initial discussions for what would become the highly anticipated CBS All Access series.

That was part of a long journey to woo Stewart back to the role that began more than a year ago.

Fans have had a long-running debate about who the greatest Trek captain is. Although Kurtzman wrote two films centering on Captain Kirk (2009's Star Trek and 2013's Star Trek Into Darkness), he'd always considered Picard the greatest. So when he made a wish list of things he could do to build out All Access' Trek universe, bringing Stewart back as Picard was high on his list.

The only problem: The actor was rumored to be uninterested in revisiting Picard, whom he played for seven seasons on Star Trek: The Next Generation from 1987-94 and in four feature films. Kurtzman wasn't sure of the response he'd get when he called Stewart's agent and asked for a meeting.

"To our amazement and delight, the agent called back and said he was curious to know what we had in mind," Kurtzman says.

Kurtzman, along with then-Star Trek: Discovery producer Akiva Goldsman and writer Kirsten Beyer, met with Stewart to pitch their vision.

"What we tried to convey in that meeting was how desperately we loved him and the character and how much we wanted to see what happened to Picard," says Kurtzman.

Stewart asked them to prepare a three-page document outlining their ideas. By this point, novelist and screenwriter Michael Chabon had joined the team to pitch a Picard-centric show, and they soon realized they could not fit their ideas into just three pages.

"It turned into a 34-page document — with no way to shorten it," says Kurtzman. "We were going on all in and he was going to read it or not read it, love it or hate it. It was our best attempt at trying to get him to say yes."

Fortunately, Stewart liked what he read. Kurtzman got the call that the actor would be in Los Angeles during Oscars weekend and wanted to meet.

"He walked into the room and he had a huge smile on his face and said, 'This is wonderful,'" recalls Kurtzman of that March 2018 meeting with Stewart." What he understood at that point … was that he was with people who desperately wanted to collaborate with him, that we weren't trying to exploit him. He knew if he was going to go back to Picard, it needed to be for the greatest reason ever."

The Picard series is just one in Kurtzman's Trek empire. It will join the flagship series Star Trek Discovery, as well asLower Decks, the upcoming half-hour animated comedy from Mike McMahan (Rick and Morty), and the shortform entry Short Treks. Other projects in development include a second kids-focused animated series (that may live outside of CBS All Access), a Discovery spinoff starring Michelle Yeoh and the younger-skewing Starfleet Academy from Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage (The O.C.).

For Trek fans, part of the draw of the upcoming Picard show is not only seeing Stewart back, but the possibility that members of his old crew might stop by for a cameo. Is that on the table?

"Anything could happen," Kurzman says.
 
Can you honestly tell me the last jedi would have been good if every major character was white and male (same script and direction)?

You ignored my point about star trek. How did one shot of Sulu hugging a guy bring down the entire film? would the film had been any better if that one shot wasn't in there?

would it be any better for Rey to be a man and still be a great sword fighter with no training?

Would Solo had been any better if the the stupid robot sexual thing had not been written into the movie (and everything else was exactly the same)? For the record, I enjoyed Solo except for the Robot sexual thing with Lando. The robot character herself was cool (to me she was just as funny as the assassin robot in Rogue One).

Did the original trilogy follow a SJW mindset by having Leia the centerpiece of the rebellion?

you raise a great point about the SJW argument.

IMO, rogue one is the second best star wars movie behind empire.
 
Star Trek: Discovery's Budget Reportedly Paid For By Netflix, Not CBS

According to Variety, the average episode of Star Trek: Discovery costs upwards of $8 million to produce.


and you can tell. the production value of this show if off the charts for "television" programming.

this shit works my home theater out. it is event television for me like GOT and WW. i put my phone in another room, get set up and just enjoy the hour.
 
wait, yall aint know?

January 08, 2019 2:00pm PT by Aaron Couch, Lesley Goldberg
'Star Trek' Boss: Picard Leads "Radically Altered" Life in CBS All Access Series
picard_0.jpg



What is the next chapter in the life of Jean-Luc Picard?

That's the question Star Trek diehards have been asking since August, when Patrick Stewart officially boarded an untitled CBS All Access series that will see him play Picard for the first time since 2002's Star Trek: Nemesis. Little is known about the plot of the show, which has been described as an exploration of the next chapter of Picard's life. Fans have speculated that it will find him serving as an ambassador, just as Leonard Nimoy's Spock did in the later years of his life.

Now, Trek captain Alex Kurtzman is pulling back the curtain on the upcoming project, revealing that a cataclysmic event depicted in J.J. Abrams' 2009 Star Trek movieimpacted Picard in a big way. In that film, written by Kurtzman and former producing partner Roberto Orci, it was revealed that Nimoy's Spock failed to save the Romulan homeworld Romulus from a supernova several years after the events of Nemesis.

Now, Kurtzman — as part of a Creative Space interview with The Hollywood Reporter (posting Wednesday) — is ready to reveal one massive clue about the premise of hisCBS All Access Picard effort, due in late 2019:"Picard's life was radically altered by the dissolution of the Romulan Empire," Kurtzman tells THR.






Read More
Patrick Stewart to Reprise 'Star Trek' Role in New CBS All Access Series

The Picard series will be the first onscreen Trek story set in the aftermath of that event, which would have altered the balance of power in the galaxy. The destruction of Romulus would also have extra resonance for Picard, who has a long and complicated relationship with the Romulans, the alien race that split from Vulcan society thousands of years ago and founded a separate civilization. The Romulans went on to control a portion of the galaxy, and the empire was in opposition to the Federation for all of Picard's career.

One of his goals as captain of the Enterprise was seeking a peace between the Romulan Empire and the Federation. Picard teamed with Spock during the events of the Next Generation two-part story "Unification," in which they learned that Romulans claiming to seek a peaceful reunification with the Vulcans were actually planning a secret takeover. And in the events of Nemesis, Picard faced off with a clone of himself (Tom Hardy) created by the Romulans.

Kurtzman says Stewart agreed to return only if he could defy what people are used to seeing with Trek. "He threw down an amazing gauntlet and said, 'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?' " Kurtzman recalls of their initial discussions for what would become the highly anticipated CBS All Access series.

That was part of a long journey to woo Stewart back to the role that began more than a year ago.

Fans have had a long-running debate about who the greatest Trek captain is. Although Kurtzman wrote two films centering on Captain Kirk (2009's Star Trek and 2013's Star Trek Into Darkness), he'd always considered Picard the greatest. So when he made a wish list of things he could do to build out All Access' Trek universe, bringing Stewart back as Picard was high on his list.

The only problem: The actor was rumored to be uninterested in revisiting Picard, whom he played for seven seasons on Star Trek: The Next Generation from 1987-94 and in four feature films. Kurtzman wasn't sure of the response he'd get when he called Stewart's agent and asked for a meeting.

"To our amazement and delight, the agent called back and said he was curious to know what we had in mind," Kurtzman says.

Kurtzman, along with then-Star Trek: Discovery producer Akiva Goldsman and writer Kirsten Beyer, met with Stewart to pitch their vision.

"What we tried to convey in that meeting was how desperately we loved him and the character and how much we wanted to see what happened to Picard," says Kurtzman.

Stewart asked them to prepare a three-page document outlining their ideas. By this point, novelist and screenwriter Michael Chabon had joined the team to pitch a Picard-centric show, and they soon realized they could not fit their ideas into just three pages.

"It turned into a 34-page document — with no way to shorten it," says Kurtzman. "We were going on all in and he was going to read it or not read it, love it or hate it. It was our best attempt at trying to get him to say yes."

Fortunately, Stewart liked what he read. Kurtzman got the call that the actor would be in Los Angeles during Oscars weekend and wanted to meet.

"He walked into the room and he had a huge smile on his face and said, 'This is wonderful,'" recalls Kurtzman of that March 2018 meeting with Stewart." What he understood at that point … was that he was with people who desperately wanted to collaborate with him, that we weren't trying to exploit him. He knew if he was going to go back to Picard, it needed to be for the greatest reason ever."

The Picard series is just one in Kurtzman's Trek empire. It will join the flagship series Star Trek Discovery, as well asLower Decks, the upcoming half-hour animated comedy from Mike McMahan (Rick and Morty), and the shortform entry Short Treks. Other projects in development include a second kids-focused animated series (that may live outside of CBS All Access), a Discovery spinoff starring Michelle Yeoh and the younger-skewing Starfleet Academy from Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage (The O.C.).

For Trek fans, part of the draw of the upcoming Picard show is not only seeing Stewart back, but the possibility that members of his old crew might stop by for a cameo. Is that on the table?

"Anything could happen," Kurzman says.
Yo! I’m in....
 
I agree. The rebooted Star Trek had no brain. Hollywood is just fuckin Lazy. They Spend Millions on special effects to WOW the eye and Dazzle the ear but there is no substance. The Discovery TV series is slightly better but the best sci-fi always has a brain. Especially Star Trek. IMHO the rebooted Star Trek movies never should have happened. Why is a show that is supposed to be about the future Stuck in its past?

discovery has a brain. it also approaches topics that TOS also approached.

if anything discovery is a remix of TOS. and we will see even more of that IN ONE FUCKIN WEEK!!!

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!
 
Man this thread made my day. I’ve been revisiting The Next Generation on Netflix. I absolutely love the show even more now that I’m seeing it with older eyes.

Can’t wait to see what they have in store for Older Picard....
 
wait, yall aint know?

January 08, 2019 2:00pm PT by Aaron Couch, Lesley Goldberg
'Star Trek' Boss: Picard Leads "Radically Altered" Life in CBS All Access Series
picard_0.jpg



What is the next chapter in the life of Jean-Luc Picard?

That's the question Star Trek diehards have been asking since August, when Patrick Stewart officially boarded an untitled CBS All Access series that will see him play Picard for the first time since 2002's Star Trek: Nemesis. Little is known about the plot of the show, which has been described as an exploration of the next chapter of Picard's life. Fans have speculated that it will find him serving as an ambassador, just as Leonard Nimoy's Spock did in the later years of his life.

Now, Trek captain Alex Kurtzman is pulling back the curtain on the upcoming project, revealing that a cataclysmic event depicted in J.J. Abrams' 2009 Star Trek movieimpacted Picard in a big way. In that film, written by Kurtzman and former producing partner Roberto Orci, it was revealed that Nimoy's Spock failed to save the Romulan homeworld Romulus from a supernova several years after the events of Nemesis.

Now, Kurtzman — as part of a Creative Space interview with The Hollywood Reporter (posting Wednesday) — is ready to reveal one massive clue about the premise of hisCBS All Access Picard effort, due in late 2019:"Picard's life was radically altered by the dissolution of the Romulan Empire," Kurtzman tells THR.






Read More
Patrick Stewart to Reprise 'Star Trek' Role in New CBS All Access Series

The Picard series will be the first onscreen Trek story set in the aftermath of that event, which would have altered the balance of power in the galaxy. The destruction of Romulus would also have extra resonance for Picard, who has a long and complicated relationship with the Romulans, the alien race that split from Vulcan society thousands of years ago and founded a separate civilization. The Romulans went on to control a portion of the galaxy, and the empire was in opposition to the Federation for all of Picard's career.

One of his goals as captain of the Enterprise was seeking a peace between the Romulan Empire and the Federation. Picard teamed with Spock during the events of the Next Generation two-part story "Unification," in which they learned that Romulans claiming to seek a peaceful reunification with the Vulcans were actually planning a secret takeover. And in the events of Nemesis, Picard faced off with a clone of himself (Tom Hardy) created by the Romulans.

Kurtzman says Stewart agreed to return only if he could defy what people are used to seeing with Trek. "He threw down an amazing gauntlet and said, 'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?' " Kurtzman recalls of their initial discussions for what would become the highly anticipated CBS All Access series.

That was part of a long journey to woo Stewart back to the role that began more than a year ago.

Fans have had a long-running debate about who the greatest Trek captain is. Although Kurtzman wrote two films centering on Captain Kirk (2009's Star Trek and 2013's Star Trek Into Darkness), he'd always considered Picard the greatest. So when he made a wish list of things he could do to build out All Access' Trek universe, bringing Stewart back as Picard was high on his list.

The only problem: The actor was rumored to be uninterested in revisiting Picard, whom he played for seven seasons on Star Trek: The Next Generation from 1987-94 and in four feature films. Kurtzman wasn't sure of the response he'd get when he called Stewart's agent and asked for a meeting.

"To our amazement and delight, the agent called back and said he was curious to know what we had in mind," Kurtzman says.

Kurtzman, along with then-Star Trek: Discovery producer Akiva Goldsman and writer Kirsten Beyer, met with Stewart to pitch their vision.

"What we tried to convey in that meeting was how desperately we loved him and the character and how much we wanted to see what happened to Picard," says Kurtzman.

Stewart asked them to prepare a three-page document outlining their ideas. By this point, novelist and screenwriter Michael Chabon had joined the team to pitch a Picard-centric show, and they soon realized they could not fit their ideas into just three pages.

"It turned into a 34-page document — with no way to shorten it," says Kurtzman. "We were going on all in and he was going to read it or not read it, love it or hate it. It was our best attempt at trying to get him to say yes."

Fortunately, Stewart liked what he read. Kurtzman got the call that the actor would be in Los Angeles during Oscars weekend and wanted to meet.

"He walked into the room and he had a huge smile on his face and said, 'This is wonderful,'" recalls Kurtzman of that March 2018 meeting with Stewart." What he understood at that point … was that he was with people who desperately wanted to collaborate with him, that we weren't trying to exploit him. He knew if he was going to go back to Picard, it needed to be for the greatest reason ever."

The Picard series is just one in Kurtzman's Trek empire. It will join the flagship series Star Trek Discovery, as well asLower Decks, the upcoming half-hour animated comedy from Mike McMahan (Rick and Morty), and the shortform entry Short Treks. Other projects in development include a second kids-focused animated series (that may live outside of CBS All Access), a Discovery spinoff starring Michelle Yeoh and the younger-skewing Starfleet Academy from Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage (The O.C.).

For Trek fans, part of the draw of the upcoming Picard show is not only seeing Stewart back, but the possibility that members of his old crew might stop by for a cameo. Is that on the table?

"Anything could happen," Kurzman says.


oh, i knew. i am a trekkie. :D

i was addressing trying to cast a new picard.
 
its some undercover cacs in this thread.

or at least some cac thinking.

as someone posted earlier in the thread discovery is one of the best performing streaming shows in the world. i am glad that this show did not go on a regular network.

but if you go on reddit or some other cac male dominant site you would think that this is the worst show ever and that it is under performing.

fuck you cacs.
 
You gotta admit though that some of that is loud white men feeling like they are losing it all just because they can't be in control of everything. Diversity feels like oppression to them because they are whiny bitches. Now there are some mistakes being made trying to push agendas I will give you that. But its just the scapegoat being used for other issues with the writing.
My wife and I were watching Force Awakens the other day. She said "so how did Finn break through his training again?" Just told her it doesn't even fuckin matter after TLJ. Same for Rey. Just happens to be a women pushed to be the most powerful Jedi for no reason other than bad writing. Shit would still be terrible if Rey was a white man.

Can you honestly tell me the last jedi would have been good if every major character was white and male (same script and direction)?

You ignored my point about star trek. How did one shot of Sulu hugging a guy bring down the entire film? would the film had been any better if that one shot wasn't in there?

would it be any better for Rey to be a man and still be a great sword fighter with no training?

Would Solo had been any better if the the stupid robot sexual thing had not been written into the movie (and everything else was exactly the same)? For the record, I enjoyed Solo except for the Robot sexual thing with Lando. The robot character herself was cool (to me she was just as funny as the assassin robot in Rogue One).

Did the original trilogy follow a SJW mindset by having Leia the centerpiece of the rebellion?

in this case you sound like an ACTUAL OLD WHITE MAN, Alex Parker.

when you start saying the same thing they are' you seriously need to check yourself.

diverse casts make more money than homogeneous casts. thats a fact. you named movies that had damning faults in areas not associated with casting, and yet you ignore tho success of movies like The Fast and the Furious, The Black Panther, Get Out and Hidden Colors.

and while youre naming Star Wars as an example, episodes 7 and 8 are two of the most successful movies in history. apparently there are some fans who dont think its at an all time low.

Have a fag character is being woke now? Nigga?

Alright then guys.
It seems your minds are made up.
I won't argue with you guys on this matter.
However, both the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises are taking losses financially and among fans. (Regardless of race or gender).
Many fans have expressed that much of the problems stem from studios playing identity politics and pushing SJW agendas.
Clearly, you guys disagree.
I suggest that you watch ANY of the YouTube videos by Midnight's Edge, Midnight's Edge After Dark, Jody's Corner, The Angry Joe Show, Mindless Entertainment etc...
Some examples on The Last Jedi:






These are just a small cross section of assorted fans from different walks of life.
They're not "OLD WHITE MEN" as I've been accused of sounding like. They're are just FANS. Pure & simple. (Black, White, Hispanic, male & female....) Fans who see a beloved franchise being ruined by modern politics being injected into their favorite franchises. And they're being vocal about not liking it... :dunno:

But hey. We'll just have to wait and see...
 
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Alright then guys.
It seems your minds are made up.
I won't argue with you guys on this matter.
However, both the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises are taking losses financially and among fans. (Regardless of race or gender).
Many fans have expressed that much of the problems stem from studios playing identity politics and pushing SJW agendas.
Clearly, you guys disagree.
I suggest that you watch ANY of the YouTube videos by Midnight's Edge, Midnight's Edge After Dark, Jody's Corner, The Angry Joe Show, Mindless Entertainment etc...
Some examples on The Last Jedi:

These are just a small cross section of assorted fans from different walks of life.
They're not "OLD WHITE MEN" as I've been accused of sounding like. They're are just FANS. Pure & simple. (Black, White, Hispanic, male & female....) Fans who see a beloved franchise being ruined by modern politics being injected into their favorite franchises. And they're being vocal about not liking it... :dunno:

But hey. We'll just have to wait and see...
those fans are assholes.

they hate everything.

the rest of the world is okay with it.

again, FINANCIALLY, those fans arent affecting the bottom line.

i liked Solo, btw. it was a good old fashioned western.

its failure had more to do with business than product.
 
Fact is that "STAR TREK" has always worked for TV due to its serialized format, and the ability to explore stories and characters long-form. "DISCOVERY" not only continues this tradition, but it's one of the few TV shows that has high cinematic production values. It looks like it belongs on the Big Screen.
 
those fans are assholes.

they hate everything.

the rest of the world is okay with it.

again, FINANCIALLY, those fans arent affecting the bottom line.

i liked Solo, btw. it was a good old fashioned western.

its failure had more to do with business than product.
If you say so, pal.
If you say so.

You enjoyed Solo.
Wonderful. :)
However, you're in the minority amongst franchise fans...
(Completely your right to do so).

You said its failure was due to business than product.
But when a business injects identity politics into the product, it often runs the risk of alienating its core consumers. (Such is the case here).
I posted videos to support my points.
You disagree with this and call them assholes...

Alright then.
We'll just agree to disagree.

Again, the numbers don't lie... :dunno:
(I could post the financial proof of this as well. But I'll respectfully refrain...) :smh:
 
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If you say so, pal.
If you say so.

You enjoyed Solo.
Wonderful. :)
However, you're in the minority amongst franchise fans...
(Completely your right to do so).

You said its failure was due to business than product.
But when a business injects identity politics into the product, it often runs the risk of alienating its core consumers. (Such is the case here).
I posted videos to support my points.
You disagree with this and call them assholes...

Alright then.
We'll just agree to disagree.

Again, the numbers don't lie... :dunno:
(I could post the financial proof of this as well. But I'll respectfully refrain...) :smh:
There is no financial proof that diversity in casting or social justice warriors are causing star wars movies to lose money.

Star wars, including the prequels, sequels and outside movies is the 2nd most profitable entertainment franchise in world history.

Its also well known that star wars fandom is toxic as hell, but represents a minority.


This morning, the Washington Post published an article titled “Who hates Star Wars for its newfound diversity? Here are the numbers.” It comes to the perhaps unsurprising conclusion that, as ferocious as it has become lately, the toxic subculture that has developed in Star Wars fandom is a vocal minority. But its sampling is still too narrow.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-washington-posts-analysis-of-star-wars-toxic-fandom-1828856645

Stop being silly.
 
There is no financial proof that diversity in casting or social justice warriors are causing star wars movies to lose money.

Star wars, including the prequels, sequels and outside movies is the 2nd most profitable entertainment franchise in world history.

Its also well known that star wars fandom is toxic as hell, but represents a minority.


This morning, the Washington Post published an article titled “Who hates Star Wars for its newfound diversity? Here are the numbers.” It comes to the perhaps unsurprising conclusion that, as ferocious as it has become lately, the toxic subculture that has developed in Star Wars fandom is a vocal minority. But its sampling is still too narrow.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-washington-posts-analysis-of-star-wars-toxic-fandom-1828856645

Stop being silly.
Cosign
 
There is no financial proof that diversity in casting or social justice warriors are causing star wars movies to lose money.

Star wars, including the prequels, sequels and outside movies is the 2nd most profitable entertainment franchise in world history.

Its also well known that star wars fandom is toxic as hell, but represents a minority.


This morning, the Washington Post published an article titled “Who hates Star Wars for its newfound diversity? Here are the numbers.” It comes to the perhaps unsurprising conclusion that, as ferocious as it has become lately, the toxic subculture that has developed in Star Wars fandom is a vocal minority. But its sampling is still too narrow.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-washington-posts-analysis-of-star-wars-toxic-fandom-1828856645

Stop being silly.

Now you seem to be deliberately misquoting me.
I never said nor made a claim that diversity was the problem. o_O
However, I did say that when identity politics & SJW agendas were inserted into these franchises they took losses in ratings, financially & among the fans.
Please re-read any of my posts.

Furthermore, I've uploaded videos to illustrate the point.
You've dismissed them all as being assholes.

Again.
Both The Last Jedi & Solo made considerably less money than The Force Awakens or Rogue One respectively.
Deny this if you will but the numbers don't lie.

We agree to disagree... :dunno:
 
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Now you seem to be deliberately misquoting me.
I never said nor made a claim that diversity was the problem. o_O
However, I did say that when identity politics & SJW agendas were inserted into these franchises they took losses in ratings, financially & among the fans.
Please re-read any of my posts.

Furthermore, I've uploaded videos to illustrate the point.
You've dismissed them all as being assholes.

Again.
Both The Last Jedi & Solo made considerably less money than The Force Awakens or Rogue One respectively.
The numbers don't lie.

We agree to disagree... :dunno:


first of all, i answered exactly what you said. :lol:

secondly, Last Jedi made less money, but theres no proof diversity or SJW is the cause. HISTORICALLY the 2nd installment of a Star Wars trilogy makes less than the first.

but heres someone more versed in this than either of us talking about it:

6 Reasons 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' May Make $750M Less Than 'Force Awakens'

As I noted way before it was cool, the "part 2" Star Wars movies tend to make around 30-32% less than the "part 1" Star Wars movies.

Hollywood flooded the market with family-friendly flicks.

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle... my god!

The Last Jedi was a long (and harshly topical) movie.

The media narrative skewed negatively.

The Force Awakens was a generational event that won't be replicated again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...50m-less-than-the-force-awakens/#52a3f2b83432

again, there is no proof that SJWs are causing Star Wars movies to do less money.
 
first of all, i answered exactly what you said. :lol:

secondly, Last Jedi made less money, but theres no proof diversity or SJW is the cause. HISTORICALLY the 2nd installment of a Star Wars trilogy makes less than the first.

but heres someone more versed in this than either of us talking about it:

6 Reasons 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' May Make $750M Less Than 'Force Awakens'

As I noted way before it was cool, the "part 2" Star Wars movies tend to make around 30-32% less than the "part 1" Star Wars movies.

Hollywood flooded the market with family-friendly flicks.

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle... my god!

The Last Jedi was a long (and harshly topical) movie.

The media narrative skewed negatively.

The Force Awakens was a generational event that won't be replicated again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...50m-less-than-the-force-awakens/#52a3f2b83432

again, there is no proof that SJWs are causing Star Wars movies to do less money.

If you say so pal.
Again, I never said diversity was the problem.
You're assuming that's what I meant. :smh:
That's on you...
 
If you say so pal.
Again, I never said diversity was the problem.
You're assuming that's what I meant. :smh:
That's on you...
apparently you havent said OR meant anything at all.

if diversity isnt the issue, and SJW arent making movies worse, and the fans arent making movies lose money...wtf are you saying?
 
Whoever authored this is must be on dope. To claim Star Wars killed the Star Trek is insane. Star Trek will continue maybe not with Paramount but the series will continue. Star Trek's fan base will demand it.
 
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