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Fox removes Fantastic Four 2 from its schedule

After Fox's Fantastic Four debuted this year to harsh reviews and underwhelming box office numbers, the studio has decided to possibly forego the planned sequel.

According to ComicBook.com, Fantastic Four 2 has completely disappeared from Fox's slate of upcoming films with no specific reason given. Although it seems blatantly obvious that the studio wants to bury the disastrous feature and try to move past it, there hasn't been any word from Fox confirming or denying that reasoning.

It's also unclear as to whether the sequel won't happen at all or has just been delayed to a later date. Fantastic Four could be a big franchise for the studio and it would make sense to just wait a little longer before attempting to do it all over again.

The sequel was originally scheduled to be released on June 9, 2017, putting it in direct competition with DC's Wonder Woman, which will hit theaters on June 23.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/fox-removes-fantastic-four-2-143002565.html
 
The comics were awful. I don't know who the fuck thought they would do good in the movies even the first time they tried.
 
Miles Teller Opens Up On Fantastic Four’s Failure

Mr Fantastic actor Miles Teller has spoken with perhaps surprising frankness about where things went wrong on 2015 superhero reboot flop ‘Fantastic Four.’


Happysadconfused (quotes via Slash Film). It seems a lot of the trouble was down to the constantly-reworked screenplay.


“I think it was Clooney who said you can make a bad movie out of a good script, you can’t make a good movie out of a bad script, and that’s very true.

“If they’re telling you maybe your part’s not as big and they say, ‘Oh you’re gonna be bigger in the sequel,’ or ‘Oh we’re gonna rewrite,’ and ‘Yeah, we’re gonna take in all these notes,’ if you’re in a position where you can say hold off I’m not signing off on this dotted line until this script is exactly where you want it, then you’re in a very fortunate position.

“Because I know actors that have been in literally Oscar-winning performances that told me that script was a struggle every day to get it to a place that [they] wanted it, and [they] were always fighting for the best version of it.”



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The actor continues, “People think that when you make something like a ‘Fantastic Four’ that doesn’t do well, people think ‘Oh you phoned it in’ and it couldn’t be more untrue.

“You work harder on the bad films, or the films that turn out maybe not the way you intended, because something’s not working. And I thought it was kind of unjustly critiqued that way; there are even bigger bombs if you’re looking at how much money went into the production and what they reaped back.

“But I think it’s unfortunate a movie like that becomes a scarlet letter on a resume when so many talented people worked really hard and maybe a handful of people took it in a negative direction. But so many people worked really hard on that that are so talented.”

In the same interview, Teller also confirms he was among the actors to audition for the lead in Disney’s young Han Solo movie, although he is no longer in the running.

The $120 million-budgeted ‘Fantastic Four’ took only $168 million worldwide, after being met by unanimously bad reviews and indifference from audiences.

Whilst 20th Century Fox initially insisted a sequel would be made, this now seems highly unlikely.
 
I didn't like any of the FF movies released they were all below average to me. Especially the one with silver surfer and galactus. :smh: Didn't watch this last one.
 
There are rumors of an X-men /Avengers team up movie in 2020, so hopefully fox is really in talks with Marvel/Disney to actually bring these characters to the MCU.
 
What Went Wrong With Fantastic Four, According To The Producer

The Fantastic Four have had a rough history being adapted for movies, but 2015 was especially brutal to them. After an eight year absence from the big screen, Marvel’s First Family was rebooted, but it fared significantly worse than its predecessors, receiving almost universally negative reviews. The superhero team’s cinematic future is now in question, but in the meantime, Fantastic Four’s producer, Simon Kinberg, has gone on record saying that they definitely got one thing wrong with the movie: its tone.

During his appearance on the Happy Sad Confused podcast, Kinberg didn’t place entire blame on a singe reason for why the Fantastic Four reboot failed, but he did say that the movie’s tone definitely didn’t match the spirit of the team’s original stories. As he put it:

I don’t think that there is, in any movie that doesn’t work, a single decision that is the reason that that movie doesn’t work. I think that there were many decisions we made along the way that led to a movie that people didn’t like and to a movie that I would do differently next time. I think the biggest takeaway for me [is that] the tone of the movie, while really interesting and ambitious, ran counter to the DNA of the source material. I think the source material of Fantastic Four is bright, optimistic, poppy in tone. There’s a sort of plucky spirit to those characters, and we made a darker, sort of body-horror kind of version of Fantastic Four, which again, as I say it now, sounds really interesting and cerebrally ambitious, but isn’t necessarily Fantastic Four.​

Simon Kinberg hit the nail on the head when he says that Fantastic Four "ran counter" to the source material. Although it delved more heavily into the science fiction elements, the movie was way too gritty than any Fantastic Four story has a right to be. While other superhero reboots, like Batman Begins, may benefit from darker stories, the Fantastic Four are traditionally lighter and more optimistic. Say what you will about 2005 and 2007’s Fantastic Four movies, but at least they captured that aspect well.

On top of the tone issues, Fantastic Four reportedly suffered from a number of other problems, be it a disjointed script or drama that reportedly went down behind the scenes. Days before the movie was released, director Josh Trank even tweeted (and subsequently deleted) that the movie people would see in theaters wasn’t his fully-realized vision. Whatever the reasons, Fantastic Four underperformed critically and commercially last summer. Months after the movie came out, 20th Century Fox pulled Fantastic Four 2 from its July 2017 release date, though it hasn’t been officially cancelled.

At least there’s one silver lining here: if Fantastic Four 2 still ends up being made, at least Kinberg is aware that the sequel can’t have a dark tone. That said, there are still plenty of other things from the first movie that need to be properly adjusted if the sequel is to have any hope of success.
 
Yep, it looks like Fox is sticking with the Fantastic Four
Well, we tried, but Fox seems intent on making another Fantastic Four movie.

That's according to Simon Kinberg, who had a hand in writing and producing last year's disastrous reboot and has been fairly outspoken recently about what went wrong with that film. But while we tried to reason with Fox not long ago in an open letter, suggesting that making a deal to give the franchise back to Marvel Studios would be in everyone's best interests, Kinberg said on the Happy Sad Confused podcast that it's staying put:

“It’s a big part of the plan going forward. Like I say, the biggest lesson learned is that Fantastic Four is a great comic book that has its own tone and voice, and we need to let that lead us...I would love to continue making movies with that cast.”

Kinberg also reiterated why he thought last year's Josh Trank-directed movie didn't work:

"I think that there were many decisions we made along the way that led to a movie that people didn’t like and to a movie that I would do differently next time. I think the biggest takeaway for me [is that] the tone of the movie, while really interesting and ambitious, ran counter to the DNA of the source material. I think the source material of Fantastic Four is bright, optimistic, poppy in tone. There’s a sort of plucky spirit to those characters, and we made a darker, sort of body-horror kind of version of Fantastic Four, which again as I say it now sounds really interesting and cerebrally ambitious, but isn’t necessarily Fantastic Four.”

Well he's right about that, but we also have to remember that Fox didn't get the tone exactly right on its mid-2000s Fantastic Four movies either, which veered into unintentional camp. So how does Fox strike the right balance now and bring this cast and characters back in a way that can undo the damage that's been done? Do you make a wildly different movie from the last one, or do you perhaps bring the Four into a different film as supporting players, before putting them back out in their own franchise?

One thing's for sure: Fox isn't letting go of this property any time soon, and it's also got this cast locked up for at least another movie or two (Michael B. Jordan's entry into the Marvel Cinematic Universe notwithstanding), so we'll just have to hope for the best. Do you think Fox can fix the Four on its own?

(via Collider)
 
Shadow said:
The comics were awful. I don't know who the fuck thought they would do good in the movies even the first time they tried.
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I agree. I don't know what people expect from that shit. I never liked any of those cartoons I can only imagine how good/bad the comics were.
 
Shadow said:
The comics were awful. I don't know who the fuck thought they would do good in the movies even the first time they tried.
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dtownsfinest said:
I agree. I don't know what people expect from that shit. I never liked any of those cartoons I can only imagine how good/bad the comics were.
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You dudes are so wrong. FF comics have been some of the best written stuff marvel had for years. Hell the recent run by Jonathan Hickman was AMAZING.

What it always comes down to is that Reed Richards and Doctor Doom are essentially the exact same person with the only difference is that Reed has a family that he cares about and keeps him grounded. When you explore that angle you get so much out of FF.
 
Man FF would be a blockbuster if done right. Fox just have the characters but they don't know what the fuck they're doing. You got Galactus, Silver Surfer, the Watcher, etc and you keep fuckin up?????????? All these flics are as far as Fox and Sony are concerned are money grabs.

Listen...if Marvel didn't start making movies these "horrible" mashups would be blockbusters.lol. THe problem is you have a benchmark to compare them to now. The only one FOX has gotten right so far is DEADPOOL and they can't take ANY credit except for putting up the paltry budget. THat was a labor of love by the creators involved with NO STUDIO INVOLVEMENT whatsoever. NO expectations. 58mil up front and close to 800mil return. Ryan and Miller worked off and on towards DEADPOOL for 11 years, writing and re-writing scripts, even putting up their own money to film the test footage the got the movie greelit.

They totally understood the character. Marvel totally understands their characters. Everybody else is just throwing shit on screen to see what sticks. Mothafuckas totally ignoring the source material. Galactus was a fuckin cloud. Kill Apocalypse in the span of one fuckin movie. Peter Parker slam dunking from half court, etc. They figure as long as they give you the spectacle of special efx then it's all good.
 
It seems like they know they have a potentially money-printing franchise on their hands and they don't want to give it up. Nothing wrong with that. However, they need to go back to characters as we know them. I'm all for diversity but geezus that was a train wreck trying to jam all the diverse pieces in that last movie. The script made my teeth hurt it was so bad. One of the problems with flipping the cast like that is that you have to tell the origin story all over again. Boooooring. Go back to the comic book tropes for the cast and for gods sake get new actors, director, writers. FF got involved with every damn body at some point so there's no shortage of material. The Marvel Netfilx shows show you how to have characters make significant, yet brief appearances without destroying the narrative of the main character. Writers muthafuckas! Get some freaking writers.
 
Miles Teller says he’d make a Fantasic Four sequel

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It was a little over a year ago when the rebooted Fantastic Four hit the big screen to a less-than-fantastic reception, arriving as a box office flop amid harsh critical reviews and reports of behind-the-scenes drama.

Despite those setbacks, at least one-fourth of the superhero quartet says he’d come back for another installment.

When asked by JoBlo about whether he’d return for another Fantastic Four film, Miles Teller responded, “Yeah, for sure. I loved the cast, I loved the characters. I think it’s such an interesting dynamic. I love how much they really need to rely on each other. This Avengers thing, they’ve kind of created their own Fantastic Four in a way, Marvel’s first family. Their powers can’t just exist on their own, you need Thor to do this, the Hulk to do his thing. So yeah, absolutely, I would do another one.”

Earlier this summer, Fantastic Four writer-producer Simon Kinberg suggested that the reboot’s darker tone might have been one of the reasons the film was poorly received.

“I think that there were many decisions we made along the way that led to a movie that people didn’t like and a movie that I would do differently next time,” Kinberg said in June on the Happy Sad Confused podcast of the Josh Trank film. “I think the biggest takeaway for me, and there were many, is that the tone of the movie, while really interesting and ambitious, ran counter to the DNA of the source material. I think the source material of Fantastic Four is bright, optimistic, poppy in tone. There’s a sort of plucky spirit to those characters, and we made a darker, sort of body-horror kind of version of Fantastic Four, which again as I say it now sounds really interesting and cerebrally ambitious, but isn’t necessarily Fantastic Four.”

Echoing sentiments he expressed last year after the film was released, Kinberg was also hopeful for a potential sequel. “I think the biggest lesson learned is that Fantastic Four is a great comic book that has its own tone and voice, and we need to let that lead us,” he said. “I would love to continue making movies with that cast.”​

Teller will be seen next alongside Jonah Hill in War Dogs, out in theaters Aug. 19.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/09/fantasic-four-miles-teller-sequel
 
After Calls For The Snyder Cut And Ayer Cut, Fantastic Four’s Director Gets Blunt About A Possible Re-Release
MAY. 27. 2020 11:09 AM
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It's been a wild week in the film world, specifically the superhero genre. Because after years of fan campaigns and crowdfunding, the Snyder Cut of Justice League will finally become a reality on HBO Max. It's an unprecedented series of events, and one that has galvanized some fans with the ability to actually make change within the industry. Calls have also begun for the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad, as well as the Trank Cut of 2015's ill-fated Fantastic Four movie. But it looks like filmmaker Josh Trank isn't co-signing the calls for an alternate cut of his infamous Fantastic Four.

Josh Trank's Fantastic Four had a ton of hype around it but unfortunately the movie failed to live up to expectations. Despite a strong cast, the movie was a critical and box office disaster when it hit theaters back in 2015. Trank has been open about his dissatisfaction with the movie over the years, often mocking it on social media. Now that trend has continued, as you can see in the blunt response to one fan calling for Fantastic Four to be re-released. Check it out below.

No need.
— Josh Trank (@joshuatrank) May 20, 2020
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Well, that was honest. It looks like Josh Trank has no interest in returning to Fantastic Four and completing a director's cut of the blockbuster. He appears to have put his superhero movie behind him, instead working on other projects like Tom Hardy's Capone. Still, the Snyder Cut's confirmation made it seem like just about anything was possible.


Josh Trank shared his honest response to calls for Fantastic Four's Trank Cut over on Twitter. He regularly uses the social media platform to directly communicate with the public, often with self-deprecating jabs at his infamous superhero flick. The movie has been criticized for being so tonally different between its two acts, seemingly due to a change of writers.
The response to Fantastic Four was swift and unanimous, as the movie was panned for its lack of color, humor, and excitement. In fact, the movie is sitting at a dismal 9% on Rotten Tomatoes, and won a slew of Razzies. Josh Trank's blockbuster also failed to perform at the box office, with plans for a sequel quickly snuffed by 20th Century Fox.

Still, The Snyder Cut actually becoming a reality is a game-changer for the movie industry, as it the first time a project is being given this specific treatment. Warner Bros. made a deal with HBO Max, which will allow Zack Snyder to complete his vision for Justice League that was derailed once Joss Whedon signed on to complete the project.
Fans have already begun campaigning for the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad, as David Ayer has been open about how studio interference changed his vision for the villain-centric DC blockbuster. And while some folks might also be focusing on Fantastic Four, Josh Trank isn't interested in getting the Snyder Cut treatment.
It should be interesting to see the future of the Fantastic Four, now that Disney control over the characters following its acquisition of 20th Century Fox. Moviegoers are hoping they'll finally join the Marvel Cinematic Universe, with plenty of fan castings hoping that John Krasinki and Emily Blunt end up playing Reed Richards and Sue Storm. But there hasn't been any indication of if/when that might occur.
Josh Trank's Capone is currently available to watch on demand. Be sure to check out our 2020 release list to plan your next trip to the movies.
 

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