Mother Can’t Believe Airline’s Response To Saggy Pants

[Big Phil98]

props on postin the vid phil


dont know what happened in some of yall lives that makes yall think kickin somebody off a plane and arresting them because of how they were their pants is a smart thing to do or even the right thing to do. i was only jokin about the "thug fuckin ur girlfriend" stuff but one of yall actually compared dudes saggin pants to wakin in on ur girlfriend fuckin some other guy, and thats not even the craziest commit in here. an i cant even say the bgol cacs are out in full force cause alot of u dudes seemed like reasonable black people before this crap came up

and for the record the way an adult would have handled the situation would have been to wait for dude to sit down and discretely school the kid on pullin up his pants. treat the kid like a person and not a criminal and chances are none of this woulda happened

Thanks, When I read the article, I wated to reserve judgement until I heard the full story. After watching the vide, the situation was handled excessively. This brothers behavior did not warrant this kind of reaction. I have horrid behavior on airplanes by beligerant people and they were not treated with that kind of hostility. When the air marshalls approached this young man, there was no chance of the problem being rectified correctly without him being taken off the plane. Sagging indeed is an annoying fad, that is not only popular with young blacks, but with other races, but when laws are enforced, they are only enforced against young blacks. Threads like this exposes the CACS on BGOL.

 

[mike123]

Thanks, When I read the article, I wated to reserve judgement until I heard the full story. After watching the vide, the situation was handled excessively. This brothers behavior did not warrant this kind of reaction. I have horrid behavior on airplanes by beligerant people and they were not treated with that kind of hostility. When the air marshalls approached this young man, there was no chance of the problem being rectified correctly without him being taken off the plane. Sagging indeed is an annoying fad, that is not only popular with young blacks, but with other races, but when laws are enforced, they are only enforced against young blacks. Threads like this exposes the CACS on BGOL.

i wanna agree wit the bolded part but theres a few dudes in here that i thought were reasonable black men. Obviously the reasonable stuff goes out the window but as far as bein undercover cacs, when it comes to the vets i'll have to reserve judgement til more evidence is presented.

 

[Mo Pizorn]

I'll never understand people's insistence on controlling how another person chooses to carry themselves.

You don't sag? Neither do I, but why do care if someone else chooses to do so? That's their prerogative.

You'd have a point if they're exposing skin, but if all they're exposing is cotton, then STFU and mind your business.

Its behavioral conditioning.

 

[cbm_redux]

What kind of fucking moron, in 2011, doesn't know that you cannot fuck around on an airplane? If you give the flight crew any trouble at all, the Feds are going to lay hands on your ass. Then you're going to have to explain yourself in front of a magistrate. Even if you don't end up in jail, you will spin the big wheel in a little game that I like to call Penalties.

 

[Cybts1]

dude is in college doing something positive who the fuck cares how he wears his clothes.

Obviously college can't teach common sense.

 

[john blackcorn]

Thanks, When I read the article, I wated to reserve judgement until I heard the full story. After watching the vide, the situation was handled excessively. This brothers behavior did not warrant this kind of reaction. I have horrid behavior on airplanes by beligerant people and they were not treated with that kind of hostility. When the air marshalls approached this young man, there was no chance of the problem being rectified correctly without him being taken off the plane. Sagging indeed is an annoying fad, that is not only popular with young blacks, but with other races, but when laws are enforced, they are only enforced against young blacks. Threads like this exposes the CACS on BGOL.

just like i said from the beginning. it was just a way to pic on another black man. he didnt escalate the problem, they did. and u got other black folks in the thread cosigning and what not. sagging is just one more thing for white folks and other races to pick at black folks about.

 

[King Leroy]

I had my bags I told her I'd fix it when I sit down="I'm gon' fix it when I'm ready to fix it." Looks like Dez Bryant being kicked out of a Dallas mall wasn't enough.

 

[UltimateLurker]

The trolls are out in full force

 

[cm0ney]

*Cedric Voice* IM A GROWN ASS MAAN DAWGGG!!

Im Not co-signing a black man getting locked up for this shit but if it means it brings it to the attention of these fools that the majority of peeps dont wanna see yo ASS (coz thats what they showin off) then thats cool with me.

 

[Rick Ronson]

BITCH ASS NIGGA


You are free to do it on the block all day​

 

[THE GRANDJURY]

So why wasn't he arrested for indecent exposure then?Why tresspassing/Tresspassing,on a plane I have a ticket for?Or tresspasing in the airport that I'm in cuz u made me leave the plane? All yall cosigning this young brotha getting a record cuz yall don't like how he wear his clothes..ignorant fucks I swear.The boy in colledge,never been in any trouble,and sum fucking piece of shit stewardess goin tell me to do what?His homeboy just got murdered but you all are right.There are obviously not enough laws that target young black men,we must have more

His homeboy getting murdered is not the problem of the airline or the passengers. Be an adult and pull your pants up is all he had to do.

 

[RoomService]

 

[Rick Ronson]

So why wasn't he arrested for indecent exposure then?Why tresspassing/Tresspassing,on a plane I have a ticket for?Or tresspasing in the airport that I'm in cuz u made me leave the plane? All yall cosigning this young brotha getting a record cuz yall don't like how he wear his clothes..ignorant fucks I swear.The boy in colledge,never been in any trouble,and sum fucking piece of shit stewardess goin tell me to do what?His homeboy just got murdered but you all are right.There are obviously not enough laws that target young black men,we must have more

If he didnt give a fuck about a record to the point he stood by
this ignorant shit why should we..Yall act like Rev Al Sharpton
should be called over this ignorant ass bullshit..I swear man

FATHERS ARE MISSING FROM THESE HOMES.

That boy needed his ass beaten.

Niggas waste the race card on bullshit now it aint worth shit.


And Look how you spelled college.

Its 2011...Lets get it together black man!!!!

 

[Darrkman]

I'm amazed at how shortsighted some of you assholes are. A man was denied access to transportation, something he paid for because of what he was wearing. On top of that by voicing his displeasure this young Black man can now potentially have a criminal record. This isn't being done to white people and you self hating faggots will go along with it gladly.

Time and time again they find ways to make anything that is associated with Black men a criminal act. Next it will be baseball caps with flat brims, or dreds. How bout if its decided that skinny jeans are indecent. Or Timberlands?

 

[Bigskinn2]

Im tired of this shit

Im tired of seeing ashy ass niggas in wife beaters and boxers. Niggas acting like the world wanna see their loungewear.

Secondly im tired of raspy voiced fat black bitches making excuses for everything their bastard sons do. They are in LOVE with their sons, because they dont have a man in their lives, and think them bastards can do no wrong. Everyone of these mooses think their sons are angels and persecuted on the cross just like white jesus

Now that rite there.... IS REAL DEEP TALK!!

 

[keith_ns]

WOW!!! Thanks for posting the VID!! I Think I called that one right on the target. CACs being CACs!!!!


Still pull your DAM pants up!!!

 

[Darrkman]

well call me a coon then... grown ass nigga getting on a plane wearing pajamas, a good ass kickin is what he needs.

Except I see white people wearing pajama pants outside all the time. ESPECIALLY college age white kids. However, what I don't see is them getting thrown off planes for it, and yes I've seen them on planes, and I damn sure don't see those same white kids, boys and girls, getting ARRESTED for it.

 

[Rick Ronson]

I'm amazed at how shortsighted some of you assholes are. A man was denied access to transportation, something he paid for because of what he was wearing. On top of that by voicing his displeasure this young Black man can now potentially have a criminal record. This isn't being done to white people and you self hating faggots will go along with it gladly.

Time and time again they find ways to make anything that is associated with Black men a criminal act. Next it will be baseball caps with flat brims, or dreds. How bout if its decided that skinny jeans are indecent. Or Timberlands?

Twist it up all you want..that shit is non negotiable mane

Every other example you used was acceptable on all levels.

There is no example to compare to this.

You would have to dig into the indecent exposure category

like shirt off or no shoes

you see what category this shit is in once you start trying to find other examples.

Please stop calling him a black man

thats fucked up for black men who carry themselves with class.

Not fair at all.

Thats like bitches trying to be respected as women.

Thats not black man behavior its nigga or black BOY behavior.


He needs to grow the fuck up and act like everyone else on the
fucking plane that simple....

He stood out in the wrong fuckin way / time and place for everything.

If everyone came on saggin the flight woulda been canceled

NO RACE CARD HERE MANE

 

[glen107wood]

mother fucker if u dont want to see it then dont look. is it that hard to understand? u are one dumb bitch

Then why stop tranny posters? It's just dicks. If you don't want to see it then don't look. Is it that hard to understand? (i hope you realize NOW that your argument and logic behind it is just stupid)

I am not saying sagging should be illegal...what I am saying is that sagging shouldn't need to be illegal. Just like walking around with your dick out shouldn't need to be illegal, folks should just fucking know better.

But when you have ignorant ass kids who just want to be "different" by doing the same shit that everyone else is doing then the law must be made.

 

[Tazirai]

Good for his ass.

 

[Darrkman]

Twist it up all you want..that shit is non negotiable mane

Every other example you used was acceptable on all levels.

There is no example to compare to this.

You would have to dig into the indecent exposure category

like shirt off or no shoes

you see what category this shit is in once you start trying to find other examples.

Actually it can be anything. The fact is that this man didn't have any SKIN showing which is what usually is considered indecent exposure. You couldn't see his ass itself or any other parts. To be honest he's covered up. What happening is that a conscious decision is being made that says a fashion act by ONE PARTICULAR GROUP, is suddenly a criminal act.

I see more ass crack on white women wearing low rise jeans and sweat pants and I have yet to hear anyone getting arrested for it and worse having a criminal record that can used against them for it.

 

[glen107wood]

Except I see white people wearing pajama pants outside all the time. ESPECIALLY college age white kids. However, what I don't see is them getting thrown off planes for it, and yes I've seen them on planes, and I damn sure don't see those same white kids, boys and girls, getting ARRESTED for it.

yeah, white people never get kicked off planes.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638...ople/t/thrown-plane-outfit-deemed-too-skimpy/

http://www.usmagazine.com/healthyli...th-kicked-off-plane-for-being-too-fat-2010142

http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-j...off-plane-for-not-turning-off-his-blackberry/

 

[Darrkman]

yeah, white people never get kicked off planes.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638...ople/t/thrown-plane-outfit-deemed-too-skimpy/

http://www.usmagazine.com/healthyli...th-kicked-off-plane-for-being-too-fat-2010142

http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-j...off-plane-for-not-turning-off-his-blackberry/

Now here is the IMPORTANT question. Whats the difference between those two cases and the one with this young Black man? I'll wait...you tell me.

 

[Darrkman]

yeah, white people never get kicked off planes.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638...ople/t/thrown-plane-outfit-deemed-too-skimpy/

http://www.usmagazine.com/healthyli...th-kicked-off-plane-for-being-too-fat-2010142

http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-j...off-plane-for-not-turning-off-his-blackberry/

Ok I'll help you out cause its obvious that reading isn't your strong suite. In all three cases you posted THE PERSON DIDN'T GET ARRESTED!! Even the chick that you posted who also argued her case on the plane was taken off but guess what...SHE WASN'T ARRESTED.

Nope only one person was arrested, had to post $11,000 bond to get out. See thats what I'm really upset about, not the fact that he was kicked off the plane. Whats more important is that a Black man was put on the road to getting a criminal record for no damn reason.

 

[UniqueStyles82]

First and foremost, please don't ever equate sagging jeans to black culture. It was born out of jail culture and reprehensible to say the least. That shit was maybe cool if you were in your teens but if your a grown man doing that still then someone obviously didn't teach you about grooming, decency, and respect.

Now as far as the situation goes, this is a great case example of where young and dumb nigga tendencies meets overzealous reaching of authority by a white person. That young brotha will learn in time (if he stays out of trouble) how to pick the right battles. First of all he is a paying customer. If he felt that the stewardess was overbearing in her demands, simply comply by pulling your damn pants or quickly get off the plane (as she asked), go down to the customer service reps for US Airlines and file a complaint. Don't make a scene on the plane, dont incite the situation. Remember folks, its post 9/11 for airlines now. Not pre. Anything you do that the flight crew might deem a disturbance will lead to you getting thrown off the plane.

This is a two way street. Its known about profiling and some white folks (regardless of whether they are a flight attendant, cashier, waitress, clerk, whatever) with no to minimal authority will pull rules right out of their asshole on the spot that are not in accordance with, have no bearing with, or not even apart of company policy. If US Airlines doesn't have a dress code stipulated in their customer agreement policy when buying a ticket, then essentially the F.A. was in the wrong. And again a person who would have knew better would have taken this up with their corporate office and a judge.

On the side of the street, young man PULL YOUR GOTDAMN PANTS UP.

 

[glen107wood]

Ok I'll help you out cause its obvious that reading isn't your strong suite. In all three cases you posted THE PERSON DIDN'T GET ARRESTED!! Even the chick that you posted who also argued her case on the plane was taken off but guess what...SHE WASN'T ARRESTED.

Nope only one person was arrested, had to post $11,000 bond to get out. See thats what I'm really upset about, not the fact that he was kicked off the plane. Whats more important is that a Black man was put on the road to getting a criminal record for no damn reason.

It's not for no damn reason. It is because he chose to not do what was required to ride the fucking plane.

Also, since reading is your strong "suite", I am curious how you missed this part:

"He asked her to step off of the plane and when they were in the jetway, he told her that her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change her clothes."

Difference was this chick stepped off the fucking plane when asked to. She argued OFF the plane. When you refuse to leave then you are trespassing.

So again I say, it was not for no damn reason (which as a double negative is wrong as well), it was because he didn't comply with shit they said.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Alot of you guys are disgraceful. You were either raised by a bitch (not to be confused with a single parent woman) or a bitch ass nigga. You have no backbone and you seem to be living with a sense of inferiority. The way you automatically assume guilt in instances such as these is beyond pathetic. And to the loser bringing up lynching and jim crow, you are a complete piece of shit who needs an education on history and civil rights.

Taking this at face value, all you have is a kid kicked off a fucking plane and arrested for sagging. Hardly justifiable. Yet most of the commentary has vilified the kid as if the article states that he took a public shit inside an old ladys hat. Theres nothing that has been reported yet that justifies some of the responses here. Not only do you not reserve judgment, or give the benefit of the doubt, you completely take the side of the establishment in trashing everything about the kid from his upbringing to his IQ.

Some of you guys just dont realize how brainwashed you are.

 

[harlem1nyc]

When you know you are walking around with your ass out, then you should dress accordingly when asked.....He was asked. He should have complied....What a dumb ass! The shit is stupid!!

 

[ldhjr1]

i dont see the big deal with sagging. if u aint lookin at a niggas ass u wouldnt notice. would sagging still be a problem if a person wore another pair of jeans instead of boxers underneath?

STFU ! DUMB ASS

 

[achilles]

Dumb ass style...always has been..BUT...The airline "will" be sued, they "will" settle, and this fool will just sag again somewhere else.

As stated...The airlines does not have a dress code policy. A good lawyer will show how he was singled out, and demand testimony from another passenger to express how he/she was offended or affected. As long as he was not showing his genitalia or ass crack..."legally" there was no just cause for the airline to make a judgement call.

Probably not true. He has no cause of action to sue. He does not have a constitutional right to fly that airline. It is a privilege. But when he buys that ticket, he agrees to comply with the flight crew's commands. He chose not to do that. They told him if he didn't comply, they weren't going to transport him. He still refused so they told him to get off the plane. He refused that too. So he makes them call police on his ass and he apparently refused their orders too only compounding an already absurd situation. Now his silly ass is sitting in a jail cell rethinking his decisions.

With respect to the legality of the airline's decision, the courts gives them great latitude to decide under what circumstances they will fly someone. I doubt a court would find that what they asked him to do was unsafe or unreasonable. They don't need the testimony from any other passenger to prove that they were offended. They just need to show that they asked him to comply with their order and he refused.

Keep this in mind: he was in control of the entire situation. He could have pulled his pants up and flew home. Or he could have refused to pull them up and got off the plane. But he can't have it both ways.

 

[Darrkman]

Probably not true. He has no cause of action to sue. He does not have a constitutional right to fly that airline. It is a privilege. But when he buys that ticket, he agrees to comply with the flight crew's commands. He chose not to do that. They told him if he didn't comply, they weren't going to transport him. He still refused so they told him to get off the plane. He refused that too. So he makes them call police on his ass and he apparently refused their orders too only compounding an already absurd situation. Now his silly ass is sitting in a jail cell rethinking his decisions.

With respect to the legality of the airline's decision, the courts gives them great latitude to decide under what circumstances they will fly someone. I doubt a court would find that what they asked him to do was unsafe or unreasonable. They don't need the testimony from any other passenger to prove that they were offended. They just need to show that they asked him to comply with their order and he refused.

Keep this in mind: he was in control of the entire situation. He could have pulled his pants up and flew home. Or he could have refused to pull them up and got off the plane. But he can't have it both ways.

Its starting to get into a he said / she said type of thing. The couple of thing that are interesting are:

1- This kid wasn't a thug at all and has good grades
2- His older brother is attending West Point on a academic and athletic scholarship so you can't say he comes from a bad family


ESPN writer wrote a good piece on the incident that can be found here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6673284

 

[Darrkman]

Probably not true. He has no cause of action to sue. He does not have a constitutional right to fly that airline. It is a privilege. But when he buys that ticket, he agrees to comply with the flight crew's commands. He chose not to do that. They told him if he didn't comply, they weren't going to transport him. He still refused so they told him to get off the plane. He refused that too. So he makes them call police on his ass and he apparently refused their orders too only compounding an already absurd situation. Now his silly ass is sitting in a jail cell rethinking his decisions.

With respect to the legality of the airline's decision, the courts gives them great latitude to decide under what circumstances they will fly someone. I doubt a court would find that what they asked him to do was unsafe or unreasonable. They don't need the testimony from any other passenger to prove that they were offended. They just need to show that they asked him to comply with their order and he refused.

Keep this in mind: he was in control of the entire situation. He could have pulled his pants up and flew home. Or he could have refused to pull them up and got off the plane. But he can't have it both ways.

Its starting to get into a he said / she said type of thing. The couple of thing that are interesting are:

1- This kid wasn't a thug at all and has good grades
2- His older brother is attending West Point on a academic and athletic scholarship so you can't say he comes from a bad family


ESPN writer wrote a good piece on the incident that can be found here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6673284

 

[Darrkman]

Probably not true. He has no cause of action to sue. He does not have a constitutional right to fly that airline. It is a privilege. But when he buys that ticket, he agrees to comply with the flight crew's commands. He chose not to do that. They told him if he didn't comply, they weren't going to transport him. He still refused so they told him to get off the plane. He refused that too. So he makes them call police on his ass and he apparently refused their orders too only compounding an already absurd situation. Now his silly ass is sitting in a jail cell rethinking his decisions.

With respect to the legality of the airline's decision, the courts gives them great latitude to decide under what circumstances they will fly someone. I doubt a court would find that what they asked him to do was unsafe or unreasonable. They don't need the testimony from any other passenger to prove that they were offended. They just need to show that they asked him to comply with their order and he refused.

Keep this in mind: he was in control of the entire situation. He could have pulled his pants up and flew home. Or he could have refused to pull them up and got off the plane. But he can't have it both ways.

Its starting to get into a he said / she said type of thing. The couple of thing that are interesting are:

1- This kid wasn't a thug at all and has good grades
2- His older brother is attending West Point on a academic and athletic scholarship so you can't say he comes from a bad family


ESPN writer wrote a good piece on the incident that can be found here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6673284

 

[Darrkman]

Probably not true. He has no cause of action to sue. He does not have a constitutional right to fly that airline. It is a privilege. But when he buys that ticket, he agrees to comply with the flight crew's commands. He chose not to do that. They told him if he didn't comply, they weren't going to transport him. He still refused so they told him to get off the plane. He refused that too. So he makes them call police on his ass and he apparently refused their orders too only compounding an already absurd situation. Now his silly ass is sitting in a jail cell rethinking his decisions.

With respect to the legality of the airline's decision, the courts gives them great latitude to decide under what circumstances they will fly someone. I doubt a court would find that what they asked him to do was unsafe or unreasonable. They don't need the testimony from any other passenger to prove that they were offended. They just need to show that they asked him to comply with their order and he refused.

Keep this in mind: he was in control of the entire situation. He could have pulled his pants up and flew home. Or he could have refused to pull them up and got off the plane. But he can't have it both ways.

Its starting to get into a he said / she said type of thing. The couple of thing that are interesting are:

1- This kid wasn't a thug at all and has good grades
2- His older brother is attending West Point on a academic and athletic scholarship so you can't say he comes from a bad family


ESPN writer wrote a good piece on the incident that can be found here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=6673284

 

[Iron Man]

His moms failed as a parent, one; not recognizing what can possibly happened how these situations generally escalate too much worst and to avoid her sons incarceration at any and all cost. Secondly; allowing someone to bait her and the son into a confrontation with the Airlines and local authorities, she could of told her son to pull up his pants go and about their business, then file a complaint with the local authorities and the FAA later. Or simply not take the flight, fly different Airlines and be done with it. Now this guy has a record, he’s been processed in the system, not a good look for someone who may be having a staring career in pro-sports.
Pants’ hanging off your ass is not an issue of Civil Rights it’s a dress code issue a violation in some areas.