Did she get a raise for bringing up their names and their gender?
Mo’Nique calls for boycott of Netflix over gender, color bias
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Brother
Respectfully
To arrive at what I just read means you have supplied us with 10 pages of shenanigans
To say
"Netflix hands aren't clean in that area" (on what data do you base this, by the way?)
right next to
"As we all know, Netflix has produced and featured a staggering amount of quality Black programming, movies, documentaries and shows featuring Black directors, all-Black casts and Black leads - possibly more than any other entertainment entity to date."
Bruh, you all over the place. And I ride for sisters hard af. But she's co-opting the struggle on some selfish shit, which is, to say the absolute least, not helpful.
Respectfully.
No one really knows but the point is everyone shit on her for doing it, when really it was private negotiation gone public. So of course when Monique does it, she got the same response. When Kanye did it, he got the same response.
And let's say Amy did get more based on Mae dropping. The public opinion of her was so low, even with just the made up story out there, it affected the people's response to her special when it came out. Her ratings were so bad that Netflix ended up changing their ratings system lol.
Here’s my question for all of the Mo’Nique defenders. Was Mo ever ‘must watch’ TV? The Cosby Show was ‘must watch’. The Chappelle Show was ‘must watch’ to the point that BGOL has virtual viewing parties for the shit. To this day folk are dropping memes and skits from the for mentioned shows. Where are the memes from the Parkers or Moesha? He’ll, even Family Matters is more classic than that.
Can somebody drop a memorable joke or routine from the Queens of Comedy? Anything? Meanwhile cats been selling Chappelle Show DVDs for years waiting for dude to come back.
Mo really overplayed her hand with this one and maybe she should consider firing her management aka husband.
Can somebody drop a memorable joke or routine from the Queens of Comedy? Anything? Meanwhile cats been selling Chappelle Show DVDs for years waiting for dude to come back.
Mo really overplayed her hand with this one and maybe she should consider firing her management aka husband.
I must correct you. Actually, I came into the thread moreso on the side of you and your comrades. When I realized that I was allowing my negative opinion of Mo’Nique’s way of expressing herself cloud my judgement about the issue she was raising, my position began to evolve. As she explained it in greater detail, it evolved even more.
I came to agree more with her on some things and disagree more with her on others (“most decorated comedian in the world”, “the female Richard Pryor”).
I never disagreed with you all on that particular point. In fact, that’s the reason I don’t support her boycott- because it was self-serving. As I said above, I thought it was an emotional reaction on her part.
The aspect we disagreed on was whether she was discriminated against. NOW you are referring to “truisms” which I am interpreting as: “yes, discrimination exists”. Yesterday, y’all weren’t giving acknowledgment to the fact that bias could have played a part in her getting lowballed.
That is what I disagreed with you all on.
Clarity and nuance are not mutually exclusive. To be nuanced is to see all sides which makes things clear. Mo’Nique’s boycott was rash and ill advised. An emotional reaction. Emotional reactions often lack nuance. As I said before, had she wanted to suggest a boycott, she should have at least gotten more examples of discrimination involving others who were willing to join with her and tell their own stories. She did not do that, therefore I was not supportive of her self-serving boycott.
I love my girlfriend, but I don’t agree with all she says and don’t do everything she wants me to do. Some things we agree on and we can work together on. That’s life and love.
YOU, me and everyone in here who lives in America supports the white man monetarily in some way or other. Mo’Nique’s proposed boycott was a terrible poorly thought out idea on all counts that was even more poorly executed, therefore I don’t support that exercise in ego.
Dude the last section of your post literally shits on any other argument. People always want to make shit about race tho, which iz annoying as fuck when there are people REALLY dealing with systematic racism....
Monique can kiss my ass, not because I dont like her but I despise what she TRIED to do which has failed miserably...
NO ONE IS LOOKING FOR MONIQUE and Netflix doesnt owe her shit... Its really that simple. Lee Daniels didnt fuck with her, so she attacked him, she came at Oprah, because she cant accept she is a barely had been and she is not an attraction...
Miss me with this bullshit...
He really doesnt havd a hand to play bruh. Shes ALWAYS been a C level comic who benefitted from ensemble casts. Shes NEVER been able to carry shit stand alone like Chris Rock, Chappell and by extension Schumer, who she pathetically tried to compare herself to...
In other words, we are in America living in the belly of the beast of the global system of white supremacy. It should not be surprising to see evidence of bias pop up in a major entertainment entity like Netflix anymore than it showing up in places like CNN or Facebook. White supremacy is systematic and pervasive. In this case, I was referring to Mo’Nique and Wanda’s situation that MIGHT be based on their being Black women. The jury is still out on that.
Not all over the place, I’m looking at different sides. The Black programming on Netflix conflicts with her seeming assertion that Netflix is racist. Shades of grey.
I agree that with her boycott suggestion, she co-opted the struggle on some selfish shit.
I was not questioning if she asked for more money....I questioned if she was doing the same dumb shit Monique did.
I don't see where you showed something untrue Tiny Rock said....In fact he was probably more flattering to Monique than he would be off camera but anyway.
So now Monique is saying that her last movie Almost Christmas had a 20 million profit .....and She gave some Schumer movie that had a profit of 3 million as validation....
Honestly, Monique didn't have star billing for Almost Christmas and Trainwreck which gave Schumer star billing had profits of over 100 million.
My issue is that Monique is using a real issue and making herself the poster child but she isn't......Viola Davis, Angela Basset, Taraji and so many more are grossly underpaid. Girls Trip made over 100 million in profits but none of the stars were paid even close to 10 million.
And this has nothing to do with if anybody thinks Monique or Schumer funny of not....Its how much does Netflix, HBO, SHO or Comedy Central think they can generate for the company.
If Monique did a show in England and sold out Wimbledon she has receipts to ask for top dollar.
Rock and Chappelle are selling tickets to their black base and also crakkas... Schumer has a strong crakkas base. Monique ain't selling to nobody but her base.
I think the reason she was offered more than Wanda was because she has a past.......But that wasn't enough so she can keep playing venues like West Nyack..<shrug>
Lol @ u having to google somebody who has been in the number 1 movie in america, number 1 black sitcom on network television (along with TIFFANY Haddish btw) and releasing comic specials left and right.
Deon cole gat 6 million also from Netflix ANd he's on blackish network black sitcom
Always think before u speak jello pops
Also My Father Funeral was beautiful, if u woulda attended, the amount of contacts and Networking with brothers in your field and beyond would have warmed your heart, not even including all the Porsche trucks and other European car conversations would have blown your mind.
I thought about u in the speech I gave.
Peace
I don’t know if I said this before Brother, but I’m sorry for your loss- especially having lost my own Dad not two years ago. I’m glad his home-going went well.
Next thing you know she'll claim somebody sexually assaulted her too. Her brush, broom etc
My condolences on the passing of your father Shaddy.
Again, the main point is you coming back in with the self righteousness accusing others of just "coming at the sista" and "supporting the white man" when you're acknowledging you KNOW that her thing is ONLY self serving.
My condolences bruh. Lost my mom day after thanksgiving. I know it's tough.
It was self-serving. I never said “only”. She was lowballed by Netflix and it MIGHT be systematic. The jury is still out on that. I disagreed with y’all for not ever giving her accusation consideration of any merit whatsoever.
Coming from Viola Davis, Taraji, Ms Tyson, Angela Basset and the like would get all the consideration in the world.
As I have said it is a very real issue.
Monique wrapping herself in it is disgusting. She doesn't have the body of work to justify trying to be the poster child.
Her last comedy special was 12 years ago.
She doesn't get consideration because she hasn't earned it.
How come nobody has addressed Wanda said Netflix came at5 her low so she went another avenue. Why isn't Monique selling her most decorated comedian ass to HBO or Showtime or Comedy Central?
Not at all. Ain't no jury out.
Whut!!!??? Moniques arguments grows stronger with your every post...
shaddy, my sincere condolences. My prayers are with you and your loved ones.
Thank u everybody
Man thank u. I'm taking it well
1. Monique was awkward, reactionary, unrealistic and self-serving to ask us to boycott.
2. She, like Wanda, was lowballed by Netflix reps .
3. Neither you nor I know what projects Mo'Nique is working on or with whom she is (or isn't) seeking negotiation .
4. I like how Wanda dealt with her having been lowballed by Netflix.
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Sorry to hear of your loss. Condolences to you and your family.
Condolences my brother. Know you get stronger with his energy transitioning. Peace
I bet his bankruptcy judge somewhere looking like
50 trolled them from day 1 lol
I don't understand how someone who hasn't done a show in 12 years xan say half a million is lowball...
And what people are not speaking on is both did standup specials at the height of their popularity and did those shows ware ant bigger offers ?
And an oscar in a,dramatic movie hOlds no bearING for a comedy standup special.......
I used to have a cdl license...before I got into IT I drove semis,10 wheel dump trucks and operated heavy construction equipment. ...I did this for 15 years...
I kept the license and after a place I was working moved all operations back to Germany I was back in the job market...
Shit was going slow so I thought I got this.license lemme get a job driving. ..
Them mofokrs didn't care that I was licensed with 15 years expetience...they said my experience wasn't recent....within 2 years. .
Now I could have taken a low paying entry level job. ...
Now while these situations are very different the point is the same...
Monique been out the game a long time and basically can't rest on 12 year old laurels..
And I still say she shouldn't be burning bridges herself. ...fire that incompetent husband and get a real manager...
Also if all she is selling tickets to are her black fans that isn't a big enough market to get big dollars....to get that big bank gotta have a crossover following
Nah, they lowballed her, man. Wanda too. Your analogy doesn't apply here. Mo'Nique hasn't been out of work and away from stand-up for years. I don't know what her situation has been doing standup over the last few years, but it appears that in recent months at least, she's been out touring and doing shows on the regular. If you google her, she has a number of upcoming dates.
Don't forget that Netflix sent reps to attend her shows recently.
I agree about her husband.
It's funny how sometimes you say it COULD be low-ball when you wanna pretend to be middle of the road lol.
1 show and she renegotiated against contracts that involved multi show deals.
Tiffany seems to be doing just fine. If she and Monique are cool I bet it was hell on her just signing a deal then knowing when they drop this people are gonna use it to clown her. And we will.
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/she-ready-for-hbo-tiffany-haddish-signs-deal-with-prem-1822387737
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/she-ready-for-hbo-tiffany-haddish-signs-deal-with-prem-1822387737
