MMA/UFC fans: what would you change?

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cranrab

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2 things.

1st, shouldn't they remove mandatory weight classes?

really, it's not as absurd as you might think.

don't the fighters cut ridiculous amounts of weight just to make weigh-in?

don't the fighters rapidly gain back ridiculous amounts of weight immediately after weigh-in?

do the fighters EVER face an opponent on fight night the same weight as weigh-in?

(up to a reasonable level) don't we as viewers want to see whose TECHNIQUE and DISCIPLINE is superior?
 
2nd, i would ban ALL coaching DURING rounds.

between rounds, trainers/coaches can say as much as they want, but DURING rounds they would have to keep their yaps shut.

don't we as viewers want to see the fighter's actual ability and what he (the fighter) knows?

example 1: there was a match where player A got player B's back in what was basically a standing RNC, 2 hooks in, but the choke was not sunk in.

player B proceeded to carry player A over to his trainers/coaches so he could receive advice on how to defend/escape.

isn't that bullshit? shouldn't player B be prepared in his own knowledge as a fighter?

example 2: player A shot on player B and secured a double and the takedown.

player B however, maintained double butterfly guard and a left underhook. player B supported himself partially with his right arm and executed a sweep.

the next time the same thing happened, but player A's trainers/coaches instructed player A to take out the right arm.

isn't that bullshit? shouldn't player A be prepared in his own knowledge as a fighter?
 
I'm cool with the second one. The coaching doesn't even register with me when watching.

The first one though, the only change I'd make and it would be the same in boxing is same day weigh ins. That would curtail, but not eliminate, the way fighters drain themselves up to a fight just to rehydrate and put on 10 plus pounds in 24 hours. The goal would be to force more guys to fight at their natural weights.
 
1- No
2- Maybe

I personally want all co-main events and main events to be 5 rounds. And we need a new scoring system ASAP!
 
It would be nice to see bouts that were "within reason" weight-wise, or the addition of more catchweight activity. Then again ... I believe it all falls back upon the athletic commissions and such. I am not a FACTS/FACTUAL person, so I'm just going on memory and such ... but doesn't it all fall back upon "the unified rules of mixed martial arts" and such? For the commissions to properly sanction the organizations and such they wanted far more rules in place, as well as weight classes being in effect. Otherwise it would not be around (the sport) or be considered "human cockfighting" as the critics saw it back in 1993, 1994, etc.
 
"THE MAN" said:
1- No
2- Maybe

I personally want all co-main events and main events to be 5 rounds. And we need a new scoring system ASAP!
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i would be fine with 5 rounds, but the stinker fights would be more unbearable.

you know those fights i'm talking about. the ones that are so boring you can't wait for them to be over.

new scoring system - ABSOLUTELY. i'm so tired of people wanting to score MMA like high school or college wrestling. example: should a takedown be scored as a positive when the person who was taken down WANTS to go to the ground AND doesn't mind fighting from the bottom?
 
Helico-pterFunk said:
It would be nice to see bouts that were "within reason" weight-wise, or the addition of more catchweight activity. Then again ... I believe it all falls back upon the athletic commissions and such. I am not a FACTS/FACTUAL person, so I'm just going on memory and such ... but doesn't it all fall back upon "the unified rules of mixed martial arts" and such? For the commissions to properly sanction the organizations and such they wanted far more rules in place, as well as weight classes being in effect. Otherwise it would not be around (the sport) or be considered "human cockfighting" as the critics saw it back in 1993, 1994, etc.
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you could be right about the governing bodies requirements. i don't know.

but i'm thinking about how the fighters are penalized purse money for not successfully cutting weight (ex. thiago alves) when everyone knows they're going to put it back on overnight. thiago alves has lost purse money twice (that i know of) and also got punished for using banned diuretics all because of imposed weight limits.
 
all #1 contender/winner gets title shot matches should be 5 rounds...if you don't make wait and fight....15% of your purse(minimum $10,000) and 30 % of any bonus goes to your opponent ..... Ufc uses WEC CAGE
 
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I want to see fights between fighters who are signed to different promotions.. For example I want to see Alistair Overeem against Cain Velasquez
 
A time limit on lay and pray. Maybe if you go 15 seconds on top and don't seem to be going for the advance or are not throwing any punches you get stood up
 
cranrab said:
you could be right about the governing bodies requirements. i don't know.

but i'm thinking about how the fighters are penalized purse money for not successfully cutting weight (ex. thiago alves) when everyone knows they're going to put it back on overnight. thiago alves has lost purse money twice (that i know of) and also got punished for using banned diuretics all because of imposed weight limits.
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Come to think of it ... it might actually be better/safer if there were MORE weight classes, or less of a divide/gap amongst the current weight classes as they jump so much.

135 - 145 - 155 = not bad.

But after that the gap is definitely enlarged quite a bit. 155 - 170 - 185 - 205 ~ and then from 225 - 265.

It's quite noticeable too when fighters try their hand at the various classes, and look gaunt/emaciated when making weight, or underperform in the process. Some of the more recognizable weight cuts (GOOD OR BAD) in recent years = Diego Sanchez / BJ Penn / Mike Swick / Dan Henderson / Marcus Davis (this past Saturday night) / Kenny Florian / Brandon Vera / some others.
 
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Allow low(soccer)kicks and knees to the head. :yes::dance::yes:
And maybe they should not allow elbows to the head but I'm not shure about that one.
 
Time limits on the ground? :yes: But I think this is already part of the ref's job. Herb Dean is always yelling "show me some action or I'ma stand you up". :yes:

The 5 rounds is a good idea, but Heavyweights for 5 rounds? GOOD LUCK. Most of them wold be so out of steam it would be fighting in slow motion.

My Suggestion:

1. Sexier outfits for ring girls and new girls too. :D This is important.

2. Joe Rogan finds another shirt to wear to events. I swear he wears the same black button up. :lol: Me and my boys even bet on it. (pause)

3. Better scoring system.
 
Have all judges current judges attend mandatory workshops where they learn what each move/position is.

Redefine what wins a round from the judges. "Effective striking, grappling and octagon control" is too fucking vague.

Remove the rule against 12 to 6 o'clock elbows.

Heavyweight 206-255
Superheavy 256-up.

Stricter rules for stalling on the ground. If not throwing up submissions or grounding and pounding penalize for stalling.

More consideration for the grappler that allows the takedown, but has active, offensive guard.

Allow knees to the head while playing the three point game.

Points taken off for getting hurt by phantom knees

Stand the striker up if the wrestler has no offensive ground game. Give thema shorter leash each time.
 
The scoring system. I'm still iffy about elbows on the ground. In one aspect I don't see the challenge of it when the guy on top is the one throwing elbows;I always thought of it as a christmas gift. And the other aspect is like I should pay more attention to the guy on the bottom to see if he can utilize his bjj and prevent himself from getting cut or getting knocked out. IMO it takes true skill to end the fight with an elbow when the fight is on the feet.
 
Efkie said:
Allow low(soccer)kicks and knees to the head.

And maybe they should not allow elbows to the head but I'm not shure about that one.
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i'd be for soccer kicks

i'd be for knees to the head

don't they already allow elbows to the head as long as they aren't north/south elbows?
 
LatinDragonXJC said:
Time limits on the ground?

2. Joe Rogan finds another shirt to wear to events.

3. Better scoring system.
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i'm torn on the time limit thing. time limits and rounds were instituted in UFC to take BJJ players out of the game and to increase the fan base that was looking for more action.

deciding when to stand up 2 players is really up to the referee but they aren't all equal.

if the players are gassed and are just resting, then yes, stand them up and get them fighting.

but sometimes the dumb ass referees can't tell when 1 of the players is actually working and trying to set something up.

joe rogan needs to go. joe rogan has an excellent grasp of the technical aspects of MMA without question, but where he fails is in his inability to reign in his emotions. as an example, during the chael sonnen/anderson silva match, listening to joe rogan, a viewer could have been fooled into thinking that chael sonnen was repeatedly hurting anderson silva. in reality, chael sonnen was merely outpointing anderson silva.

definitely a better scoring system. and by better, i mean a written set of criteria.

if a player executes a takedown, in order to be credited for the takedown, it must occur against another player who doesn't want to go to the ground. for example, taking down demian maia isn't something that should earn points.
 
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