Milwaukee's Black Leaders say the 'Enemy' is Within

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Milwaukee's black leaders say the enemy is within
Jul 7, 5:06 PM (ET)


By John Rondy

MILWAUKEE (Reuters) - Two days before the oldest and best-known U.S. civil rights group holds its yearly convention in Milwaukee, black leaders in the city say their community is being torn apart from the inside.

Civil rights leaders like 57-year-old Prentice McKinney, who fought to free Milwaukee's blacks from the ghetto, say gangs, drugs and violence have left those who still live in the nation's urban cores in fear of the next generation.

"Back then, the enemy was clear, it was white racists, and racist police officers," said McKinney, who was a black teen-age "commando" in the 1960s and now runs a tavern once frequented by fellow activists.

"It was a legalized system of segregation. And so, the challenge was between the white establishment and the African-American population. Today, the African-American population is being destroyed by its own youth ... an enemy from within."

He and others interviewed before the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's six-day meeting beginning on Saturday see a changed city where a generation of blacks freed from the shackles of yesterday's legalized discrimination are held hostage by today's crime and poverty.

"You have a population of older African-Americans ... who are now afraid of the children in their neighborhoods," McKinney said.

Milwaukee, with 583,624 residents, 37 percent of whom are black, is the country's 22nd-largest city. It remains deeply segregated, civil rights activists say.

'A BIG JOKE'

"The image of Milwaukee is one that we are not proud of," said Jerry Ann Hamilton, president of the NAACP's Milwaukee branch.

People she encountered from outside Milwaukee considered the city "a big joke" and were surprised at the extent of segregation still existing there, she said.

In a departure from the NAACP's roots of appointing a civil rights activist as its leader, the group recently named retired telephone company marketing executive Bruce Gordon as its president. Gordon has said he will put more emphasis on winning economic equality for blacks.

Retired Gen. Robert Cocroft, chairman of the National Association for Black Veterans, said the NAACP convention could help to remind city leaders there must be greater inclusion in order for Milwaukee to thrive.

"Whatever we allow to happen to the least of us is going to affect all of us," Cocroft said.

The struggles over segregated schools and housing in Milwaukee began in 1963, when marches and civil disobedience were organized by Roman Catholic priest James Groppi.

Marchers who crossed an invisible line were met by mobs of angry whites. Three people died in the summer of 1967, 100 were injured and 1,700 arrested. Groppi and the NAACP Youth Council later began 200 consecutive days of marches aimed at breaking down the laws that forced blacks to live in ghettos.

The passage of an open housing law in 1968 broke open the boundaries of the ghetto but it also led to black flight, and those who could afford it moved to more affluent areas.

"What was left behind was the poorest of the poor -- the drug pusher, the player, the pimp, the hustler ... and moral values became very different over time," McKinney said.

Milwaukee community activist George Martin said cities across the country shared the same issues and had watched the same transition from a struggle for rights to a battle with crime.

"We marched for fair housing, and now we have homelessness," Martin said. "I remember when there was good housing stock and families thrived. Now there is empty lots. I remember business districts that were as busy as any shopping mall and now they are vacant stores."


Now, I have a problem with this. First of all, who's the 'Enemy?' The youth? So, the future of Milwaukee's blacks are the 'enemy?'

Also, is it the youth's fault that they have been destructive to the NAACP's agenda in Milwaukee? Is it not really the failure of Milwaukee's NAACP to mentor these youth and provide adequate alternatives for these kids?

In other words, why didn't they take ownership of their failures instead of throwing our babies under the bus? This rings of cowardice, and that's the true enemy within, IMHO.


tian
 
Black leader's of yesterday didn't groom successors I don't think it was on purpose, when you think about what they were dealing with it's hard to blame them, but it left a void in our community, now we are like deers caught in the headlights. I don't know if the Black community will ever be able to organize and take control of our future but if it does happen young people will be the ones doing it.
 
The NAACP has never been a bastien of civil rights activity to begin with.
At least not since the days of W.E.B. DuBois. And it's never been as in
touch with the common man as it should have been. The only person from
that organization that I've ever heard of that dealt with common folks was
Medgar Evers....Otherwise, they usually come at people from a corporate
point of view. Sort of out of touch with people if you ask me....


But there are plenty of other orgs that the youth can get involved with if
they are serious about making a change in society. The NAACP is hardly
the only game in town...even a town like Milwaukee
 
Thank god "black leaders" didn't groom successor or they would be as fucked-up and corrupt as these civil rights hustlers. Who cares if Milwaukee is segregated unless "black leaders" are trying to tell us that without white people we're nothing, we can't survive on our own.

Time to move away from pickett sign marching, boycotting, civil righters and move toward economic development of our own communities. Winning economic equality for blacks. :confused:
 
Wife of Beaten Man Wants Violence to End

looks like the assessment was more accurate than the kneejerk reactions in this thread indicated at the time.

Wife of Beaten Man Wants Violence to End
By CARRIE ANTLFINGER, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago

MILWAUKEE - The wife of a man yanked from his car and brutally beaten by a mob of young people called on the community to stop the violence and for parents to control their children.

"It's just senseless," Linda Johnson, wife of Samuel McClain, said Wednesday in her first public statement since Monday's beating. "If people could see him now compared to how he looked before, they'd be shocked."

The family released a photo of the 50-year-old man in a hospital bed with a bruised and swollen face. He was in critical but stable condition Wednesday.

Samuel McClain was well enough to talk to officers Tuesday night, and several other people also were questioned, police said.

City officials asked for the public's help in finding the assailants, believed to be between 16 and 23 years old.

As many as 15 youths punched, kicked and jumped on McClain after he honked his horn for them to move out of the street, police said. It was the latest in a string of mob beatings in the city since 2002.

"I thought that the last time this happened in our community that people would wake up," his wife said. "It's time for this to stop. Parents need to sit down and talk with their children about what's right and what's wrong."

Several mob beatings have taken place in Milwaukee's inner city in recent years. In 2002, more than a dozen people, mostly boys, chased a man through the streets and beat him to death with shovel handles, rakes and tree limbs.

A man with schizophrenia died after being beaten and robbed by a group in July 2004. Six teens were charged; one was convicted, charges against four were dropped and one is awaiting trial.

Four days after that attack, a 14-year-old boy was kicked, punched and hit on the head with a piece of lumber after he exchanged words with a girl. He was in a coma for two weeks. Also that summer, four brothers were beaten by a group armed with bats, bottles, sticks and socks stuffed with canned food.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051229...uNI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
 
Re: Wife of Beaten Man Wants Violence to End

This shit is sad. I grew up in Milwaukee and these kind of stories hit home. The lady is right.. People need to start being held accountable for the actions of their children, that goes for both the mothers and fathers. When you read sentences like
In 2002, more than a dozen people, mostly boys, chased a man through the streets and beat him to death with shovel handles, rakes and tree limbs.
the word "savage" comes to mind.
 
Re: Wife of Beaten Man Wants Violence to End

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Two Comments

1. The NAACP is out of touch Who even knows what they do anymore. The NAACP needs to recieve a wake up call to get off their bougie asses and start to assist in rebuilding black culture and family values within our communities. :smh:

2. Parents need to Know their children. and instill the principals of right and wrong within them at an early age so they they don't have to worry about their children pulling people out of cars and beating them. would you blame that guy if next time he was in a situation like that he just ran them lil bastards over. Society is in such a decline these days :smh:
 
Re: Wife of Beaten Man Wants Violence to End

Such an interesting topic it's hard to know where to begin to comment.

-VG
 
Where is the NAACP youth awarness program. Where is the NAACP in reaching out to the children. If the NAACP is for the advancement of colored people how can they know say colored children are the enemy?

We can blame the parents but if the parents cared the children wouldn't be in the streets attacking people. We have to go back to the being a village and raising these children like a community it takes community involvement.

I can guarantee you what will not work is ostraciszing these children from the black community. Stereotyping them and fearing them is one way to definetly not reach them. I have had many troubled youth come through our program and when they are with my company they stay in line. Whenever I have a kid who thinks he is a superthug the first thing I make sure is that none of the staff working with them is afraid of them. When a kid says he is being harrased by gang members to join a gang we find out who the OG is get strapped and go talk to him. We tell them you can't have this one he is ours. Most parents are scared to fight for the future of their children. If the parents are scared the kids have no chance.

I am very disappointed in the NAACP for basically throwing there hands up and disregarding our youth. If they realize the obvious problem with the younger generation they need to deal with it that's what civil rights advocates are supposed to do. What's sad is that alot of these civil rights pioneers had no problem standing up to riot dogs, police forces and fire hoses but for some reason they are scared of black youth. Jim brown had it right the problem is the new civil rights movement is all talk. These leaders don't want to go into the trenches anymore. They want to say the war is over and point fingers.
 
Temujin said:
Where is the NAACP youth awarness program. Where is the NAACP in reaching out to the children. If the NAACP is for the advancement of colored people how can they know say colored children are the enemy?
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I am very disappointed in the NAACP for basically throwing there hands up and disregarding our youth. If they realize the obvious problem with the younger generation they need to deal with it that's what civil rights advocates are supposed to do. What's sad is that alot of these civil rights pioneers had no problem standing up to riot dogs, police forces and fire hoses but for some reason they are scared of black youth. Jim brown had it right the problem is the new civil rights movement is all talk. These leaders don't want to go into the trenches anymore. They want to say the war is over and point fingers.
Thats right, blame it on the NAACP. Blaming it on others is one of the things that happens when you look beyond self. I agree with the "Village Raising" concept, but a village is composed of individuals. A village is no stronger than its individual components - which means the villagers have to first look to SELF. When you get beyond self, its always going to be somebody else's problem to fix, in this case the NAACP. Git outta here!

By your argument, you not only want the NAACP to fight for equal social and economic rights, you want it to raise families as well. Next it will be responsible for birth through funeral expenses.

We have seen the enemy; and the enemy is us.

QueEx
 
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I'll blame it on the sun
A sun that never shines;
I'll blame it on the wind and sea;
But my heart blames it on me.
 
QueEx said:
Thats right, blame it on the NAACP. Blaming it on others is one of the things that happens when you look beyond self. I agree with the "Village Raising" concept, but a village is composed of individuals. A village is no stronger than its individual components - which means the villagers have to first look to SELF. When you get beyond self, its always going to be somebody else's problem to fix, in this case the NAACP. Git outta here!

By your argument, you not only want the NAACP to fight for equal social and economic rights, you want it to raise families as well. Next it will be responsible for birth through funeral expenses.

We have seen the enemy; and the enemy is us.

QueEx
I am blaming. From the article it looked like to me the NAACP is blaming. They are blaming the parents for their inability to advance colored people any further. They are blaming children for their lack of progress. WHEN ADVANCEMENT IS THEIR JOB. ADVANCEMENT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN ORGANIZATION. Of course each one of us has a responsibility to advance our race. But an organization whose job is advancement should definetly be held accountable if advancement does not occur.

Riddle me this. What is the point of the NAACP. From the article I just read he said they they had already solved the equality issue their major problem now is the youth. If they are no longer fighting for equality (because they already achieved it) then what are they fighting for? Are they still fighting or is their new fight complaining about poor parents.

The NAACP is supposed to represent the village that raises the children. They are supposed to be all about the advancement of colored people. If one of the leaders of the NAACP openly says that the youth of our community are holding back our advancement then his key goal should be helping those youth. I don't blame the NAACP for what the youth's are doing. But I do fault them for their obvious inaction or attempts to point fingers instead of solve problems. This millwaukee leader identified a problem but offered no solution except faulting parents. Faulting parents is not a solution. Working with children is a solution. If your job is advancement what good does it do to through up your hands instead of adapting your efforts to fit the new problem.

If the NAACP is supposed to represent the advancement of colored people I will hold them responsible like I do any representative. I will hold them responsible to advance. If they don't want the job step off. I personally feel an obligation to advance our people in the best ways I know how. We all have that responsibility. However power lies in organization. And an organization that has the history and power of the NAACP should be able to help our youth without complaining. If the milwakee leader had proposed a comprehensive plan to help our youth I would definetly be a part of it and contribute my self as much as possible. The NAACP is all about show now adays they have gotten away from connecting with the people that need help the most. This is why they can't understand our help our children.
 
Temujin said:
I am blaming. From the article it looked like to me the NAACP is blaming. They are blaming the parents for their inability to advance colored people any further. They are blaming children for their lack of progress. WHEN ADVANCEMENT IS THEIR JOB. ADVANCEMENT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN ORGANIZATION. Of course each one of us has a responsibility to advance our race. But an organization whose job is advancement should definetly be held accountable if advancement does not occur.
Spoken like a true NeoLib. Blame everyone, but don't hold those murdering and assaulting little bastards and their parents responsible. Hell, it ain't their fault. The system made em dat-a-way. The NAACP didn't keep em from being dat-a-way. Boo-Fucking-Hooo !!! :smh:

Meanwhile back in NeoLibVille, you didn't contribute shit to the NAACP to help them help those who refuse to help themselves. I know you didn't because if you had you would have made a point of saying it in your diatribe. So much for your village concept.

QueEx
 
QueEx said:
Spoken like a true NeoLib. Blame everyone, but don't hold those murdering and assaulting little bastards and their parents responsible. Hell, it ain't their fault. The system made em dat-a-way. The NAACP didn't keep em from being dat-a-way. Boo-Fucking-Hooo !!! :smh:

Meanwhile back in NeoLibVille, you didn't contribute shit to the NAACP to help them help those who refuse to help themselves. I know you didn't because if you had you would have made a point of saying it in your diatribe. So much for your village concept.

QueEx


Que that is total and utter bullshit. Please quote for me where I gave parents a pass. Please quote for me where I gave the children a pass. Because I want to hold the NAACP accountable for what they are chartered to do I am part of the problem. Give me a break. You neocons (since you want to use lables) are so quick to throw the children and the parents under the bus. SIMPLE QUESTION QUE WHAT IS THE NAACP PLAN TO HELP THE CHILDREN.

WHAT IS THE PLAN.

Right there is no plan just pointing fingers at the parents. Calling the children dispiscable. Ostrascizing the poor community. That is the Neocon plan.

Please tell me what the NAACP plan is to help the youth so I can be a part of it. I don't know of it. The author didn't mention it so it must not be a major concern of theirs. I told you my company presently houses feeds, educates and developes six at risk youth presently. Over 25 youth have pased through our program during the three years we have been operating a childrens program. These are gangbangers, emotionally disabled youth. If the NAACP wants a plan I'll give em one I know how to reach these children and I do it everyday. My village aka my company does it's part to help the community. We have substance abuse programs, we have HIV prevention programs. I do my part so please don't question my love of my people. That is one thing that is strong in my heart.
 
tian said:
Milwaukee's black leaders say the enemy is within
Jul 7, 5:06 PM (ET)

Now, I have a problem with this. First of all, who's the 'Enemy?' The youth? So, the future of Milwaukee's blacks are the 'enemy?'

Also, is it the youth's fault that they have been destructive to the NAACP's agenda in Milwaukee? Is it not really the failure of Milwaukee's NAACP to mentor these youth and provide adequate alternatives for these kids?

In other words, why didn't they take ownership of their failures instead of throwing our babies under the bus? This rings of cowardice, and that's the true enemy within, IMHO.


tian

I agree with teh overall spirit of the artilce. The "enemy" is within. The reality is Black on Black crime has killed more black people than the KKK could EVER do. BUT I will agree with you that we need to be careful and label ALL youth as "the enemy" THe "enemy" is Drug dealers (Regardless of age), the enemy is gangs (regardless of age), the enemy is absentee/deadbeat fathers, the enemy is black middle class apathy towards the low income blacks. In the words of malcolm,

"We all agree tonight, all of the speakers have agreed, that America has a very serious problem. Not only does America have a very serious problem, but our people have a very serious problem. America's problem is us." Now I know this is out of context of the intent of his speech, but it is appropriate statement for the status of black people.

I view the Milwalkee statements the same way I view Bill Cosby's Statements. While I disagree with the specific parts of the statement, The general message, is correct.
 
Temujin said:
Que that is total and utter bullshit. Please quote for me where I gave parents a pass. Please quote for me where I gave the children a pass. Because I want to hold the NAACP accountable for what they are chartered to do I am part of the problem. Give me a break. You neocons (since you want to use lables) are so quick to throw the children and the parents under the bus. SIMPLE QUESTION QUE WHAT IS THE NAACP PLAN TO HELP THE CHILDREN.
QueEx: Thats right, blame it on the NAACP. Blaming it on others is one of the things that happens when you look beyond self.

Temujin: I am blaming. From the article it looked like to me the NAACP is blaming. They are blaming the parents for their inability to advance colored people any further. They are blaming children for their lack of progress.​
In other words, the NAACP blames the parents and children; AND you blame the NAACP for blaming the parents and children.

Instead of stepping into this thread with a critical eye towards the little bastards gone wrong, you stepped in critical of the NAACP. The NAACP has no responsibility for the conduct of these animals. They and their parents do.

You're whole diatriabe about what the NAACP has or hasn't done might be relevant to another thread, but placing blame on the NAACP in this case, in this thread, in my opinion, is just ducking the damn issue.

QueEx
 
If you are Black and in your 30's you are officially part of the first generation of free Black people. We tend to forget that 40yrs ago we were still being lynched and fighting for the right to vote. So we are no different than those African colonies that fell into chaos when the British pulled out and took the social order with them. Like the NAACP leader said the enemy use to be visible now he's not but I think there is a two pronged problem, first old school leaders didn't prepare a new generation for those invisible enemies and second we don't have any kind of organization whatsoever so these problem shouldn't be a surprise for people that dealt with 400 yrs of oppression, to our detractors it must be like shooting fish in a barrel, we have no identity, no agenda, no real vision or leadership. This could be alright if we lived in a color blind society but obviously we don't and it might be neccsesary if we are ever to be a true melting pot but for now the enemy is our lack of direction not our kids.
 
Peanutbutta said:
Two Comments

1. The NAACP is out of touch Who even knows what they do anymore. The NAACP needs to recieve a wake up call to get off their bougie asses and start to assist in rebuilding black culture and family values within our communities. :smh:

2. Parents need to Know their children. and instill the principals of right and wrong within them at an early age so they they don't have to worry about their children pulling people out of cars and beating them. would you blame that guy if next time he was in a situation like that he just ran them lil bastards over. Society is in such a decline these days :smh:

People will start running these fools over or begin to open fire and start killing these kids. It's about time that someone start making examples out of these savages.

The sad thing is that when people start to take the law in their own hands for defensive purposes ,there will be people that will condemn them for it.
 
I blame

The children for doing what they knew to be wrong
The Parents for not teaching their children better
since the naacp is talkin shit- the naacp for allowing the rampant criminality and hedonism in the black media to go unchecked
people in general - black and white - for allowing/supporting the glamourization of criminality and bullshit
 
thats why o left the mil.the city has gone to shit. no real jobs. if u do find one starting pay is like 6.50 of 6.75. Unless they bumped it up since i left.shit aint gone change there its too late.
 
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