Michael Moore - Capitalism Is Evil?

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VENICE (Hollywood Reporter) - Twenty years after "Roger & Me" introduced Michael Moore to the world as a politically engaged documentary maker with a strong knack for showmanship, "Capitalism: A Love Story" sums up his disgust with corporate America and its devastating effect on the lives of ordinary people.

Ending on the notes of the "Internationale" as Moore theatrically encircles New York banks with crime scene tape, the film launches a call for socialism via a popular uprising against the evils of capitalism and free enterprise. Although it's less focused than "Sicko" or "Fahrenheit 9/11," this competition entry is a typical Moore oeuvre: funny, often over the top and of dubious documentation, but with strongly made points that leave viewers much to ponder and debate after they walk out of the theater.

The Paramount Vantage/Overture release opens in limited release on September 23 in New York and Los Angeles.

Simplifications are Moore's stock-in-trade, and his documentaries are not known for their impeccable research and objectivity. But here his talent is evident in creating two hours of engrossing cinema by contrasting a fast-moving montage of 50s archive images extolling free enterprise with the economic disaster of the present. Given the desperate state of the world economy, this provocative film should find attentive audiences along with many angry detractors who will give it free publicity.

As in his previous films, Moore is himself the chief character, offscreen narrator and investigator. Wearing his inseparable baseball cap and T-shirt, he pretends wide-eyed surprise as his interview subjects recount personal dramas related to America's economic meltdown. These are genuinely moving stories: a couple whose farm is in foreclosure, a family that discovers the father's company has taken out a lucrative insurance policy and earned $5 million on his premature death, tearful workers whose factory is suddenly shut down, commercial airline pilots so underpaid they live on food stamps.

Moore has assembled a collection of nearly unbelievable horror stories to illustrate why capitalism and democracy do not go hand in hand, like a privately owned juvenile correctional facility, which paid the local judge to jail teens for misdemeanors. Even the Catholic Church is marshaled in support of his argument, and Moore finds several priests and a bishop who condemn capitalism as an immoral and incompatible with Jesus and the Bible.

The second half of the film is even more chilling in suggesting, through interviews with a number of worried members of Congress, that the country's $700 billion bailout was legalized bank robbery, a "financial coup d'etat" run through Congress just before elections and engineered principally by Goldman Sachs and Henry Paulson.Though it blames all political parties, including the Democrats, for caving in with the bailout, the film is careful to spare President Barack Obama, who remains a symbol of hope for justice. His support for the workers who stage a sit-in at their factory is paralleled to Franklin D. Roosevelt's call for a new bill of rights -- never implemented -- guaranteeing universal health care.
 
You need to see that movie.

please, MM done lost his mind. If he is of the opinion that Capitalism is evil, the proceeds from the movie should go directly to the govt & the govt can determine what he needs. I had an appreciation for his work in Roger & Me but he gets "the finger" now

yeah, if your anti-capitalism, your anti-freedom
 
please, MM done lost his mind. If he is of the opinion that Capitalism is evil, the proceeds from the movie should go directly to the govt & the govt can determine what he needs. I had an appreciation for his work in Roger & Me but he gets "the finger" now

yeah, if your anti-capitalism, your anti-freedom

Number 1, you never posted the link to the original article. Number 2, I didn’t read where Moore said capitals was evil. I read one reporters opinion. From his previous work he has criticized exploitive capitalism. The right claiming Moore said capitalism is evil is another in the typical lying they use to put forth their unsubstantiated claims. Number 3, I’ll see the movie and judge it for myself. Who didn’t expect the corporate control press to come down on this film's subject?
 
I’ll see the movie and judge it for myself. Who didn’t expect the corporate control press to come down on this film's subject?

Corporate-controlled press? don't you mean govt-controlled?

when the muh-fucka do a movie about how the Federal Reserve creates Trillions "out of thin air" to enable Corporations & govts to engage in fraud, then I'll watch. But until then, he's just as big a fraud as Paulson!
 
Corporate-controlled press? don't you mean govt-controlled?

when the muh-fucka do a movie about how the Federal Reserve creates Trillions "out of thin air" to enable Corporations & govts to engage in fraud, then I'll watch. But until then, he's just as big a fraud as Paulson!

don't you mean govt-controlled?

Your rhetoric is putting you in actinanass territory.
 
Corporate-controlled press? don't you mean govt-controlled?

when the muh-fucka do a movie about how the Federal Reserve creates Trillions "out of thin air" to enable Corporations & govts to engage in fraud, then I'll watch. But until then, he's just as big a fraud as Paulson!

After 8 years of Bush domination of the press, you would think the most pro-state Liberal would realize how manipulated the press is by the government.

The popular media did...

no hard questioning of 9/11
no hard questioning of the Patriot Act
no hard questioning of warrantless wiretaps
no hard questioning of the Iraq/Afghanistan War
no hard questioning of FEMA's role in Katrina
no hard questioning of the bank bailouts

and on and on.
 
Capitalism would be great if the govt did it's job and kept the system fair, lol. A snowball has a better chance in hell lol. It's up to us, we will always get the govt we deserve.
 
After 8 years of Bush domination of the press, you would think the most pro-state Liberal would realize how manipulated the press is by the government.

The popular media did...

no hard questioning of 9/11
no hard questioning of the Patriot Act
no hard questioning of warrantless wiretaps
no hard questioning of the Iraq/Afghanistan War
no hard questioning of FEMA's role in Katrina
no hard questioning of the bank bailouts

and on and on.

they gon hate this one!

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it,
people will eventually come to believe it. The
lie can be maintained only for such time as the
State can shield the people from the political,
economic and/or military consequences of the
lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the
State to use all of its powers to repress dissent,
for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie,
and thus by extension, the truth is the
greatest enemy of the State."
- Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Minister of Propaganda)
 
he ain't saying capitalism is evil just when shit is taken to an extreme and innocent people get taken advantage of and hurt that is the bullshit and evil part
 
they gon hate this one!

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it,
people will eventually come to believe it. The
lie can be maintained only for such time as the
State can shield the people from the political,
economic and/or military consequences of the
lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the
State to use all of its powers to repress dissent,
for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie,
and thus by extension, the truth is the
greatest enemy of the State."
- Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Minister of Propaganda)

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it..."

You mean like death care?
Obama the Nazi?
Obama is a socialist?
Obama was not born in the US?
Obama is going to take your guns away?
The government is going to kill your grandma?

and...

Saddam Hussein has WMDs?
Al Qaeda was in Iraq so we had to invade?
The terrorists have a suit case nuclear bomb and will unleash anthrax on US cities?
Illegal aliens are the problem?
Corporations and the wealthy need tax cuts to trickle down jobs to everyone else?
We must be in a constant state of fear and mistrust in order to be free and safe?

Oh, those are not the lies you are talking about!

Do you do know or refuse to acknowledge that Henry Ford and Prescott Bush were Nazi sympathizers, two prominent American capitalists. It appears they have learned their lessons from Goebbels well!

You are so steep in right wing rhetoric disguised as libertarian populism, you are unable to see the forest before the trees! Maybe your suspicions of the government are getting exploited?
 
Do you do know or refuse to acknowledge that Henry Ford and Prescott Bush were Nazi sympathizers, two prominent American capitalists. It appears they have learned their lessons from Goebbels well!

You are so steep in right wing rhetoric disguised as libertarian populism, you are unable to see the forest before the trees!

Thought please, I'm a product of MLK. I just happen to have an economics background to recognize the lies the MSM uses to manipulate public opinion. All I try to do is share some of that common sense with others.

Maybe your suspicions of the government are getting exploited?

maybe you are being exploited?
 
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Dylan and Michael at MSNBC

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Corporate-controlled press? don't you mean govt-controlled?
The two aren't mutually exclusive. The press has become both corporate controlled and govt manipulated.

I haven't seen the movie yet but I doubt Moore says "capitalism is evil". He's been making the media rounds to push the movie, incl. Olbermann last night and Maher tonight, and he's very pointedly attacking, not capitalism, but government subsidized corporate corruption. Especially coming from companies that hate the government interfering with them until they've run themselves into the ditch.
 
Micheal Moore is part of the Ministry of Truth from the book "1984" ...........
If you go to far to the left, you end up on the right................
 
I haven't seen the movie yet but I doubt Moore says "capitalism is evil". He's been making the media rounds to push the movie, incl. Olbermann last night and Maher tonight, and he's very pointedly attacking, not capitalism, but government subsidized corporate corruption. Especially coming from companies that hate the government interfering with them until they've run themselves into the ditch.

na, MM is not that brave, but the nature of his style may sway public opinion. He does a good job of creating the whole "right vs. left" thing but will he really question authority? (by authority, I'm talkin about the people who control issuance of currency)
 
na, MM is not that brave, but the nature of his style may sway public opinion. He does a good job of creating the whole "right vs. left" thing but will he really question authority? (by authority, I'm talkin about the people who control issuance of currency)

Moore has more credibility than Ron Paul. He is from Lansing, Michigan. His dad and family members were employed at the Buick plant. When they closed down when the then GM CEO Roger Smith was the highest paid CEO he really got pissed. Since he went to Michigan State, he is one of the few college educated people that didn't turn his back on his upbringing. He could have gone republican and bought in to the rhetoric that all he is, is a result of himself. Can't think of any libertarians holding the over paid classes’ feet to the fire.
 
Cool then.

but since u bought it up, :yes: Hearings started today on the bill to Audit the Fed (HR 1207) As expected, Democratic leadership is dragging its' feet in bringing transparency & accountability to the Fed Res. I'll give props to Alan Grayson though, he had some great Q's & comments
 
The empirically-supported propaganda model of Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky shows how corporate media are able to carry out large-scale, successful dehumanization campaigns when that promotes the goals (profit-making) that the corporations are contractually obliged to maximise. State media, in either democracies or dictatorships, are also capable of carrying out dehumanization campaigns, to the extent with which the population is unable to counteract the dehumanizing memes.


In the late 19th century, Pope Leo XIII in his encyclical Rerum Novarum began the Church’s march into modernity. The encyclical dealt with the condition of the working class, with the Pope describing the spiritual poverty of the two great materialist economic philosophies of his day, socialism and capitalism. Leo noted the advantages of industrialization but deplored its dehumanizing effects upon workers.


Karl Marx based his early critiques of capitalism upon one key concept: the alienation of labor under the capitalist economic system. This term is not based upon subjective (unique to each worker) feelings of estrangement or of difficult, tedious unsatisfying work (though anyone who has worked in a factory or cubicle may well attest to these as well). Rather, Marx based his idea of alienation upon the dehumanization of the worker. Under capitalism, working people become commodities, just like wheat or oil or copper.



Capitialism is about the dehumanization of workers and hoarding the worlds wealth so it could be described as Evil. It's also a system where everyone could have a chance at wealth, freedom and prosperity. It depends on how the system is managed.
 
After 8 years of Bush domination of the press, you would think the most pro-state Liberal would realize how manipulated the press is by the government.

The popular media did...

no hard questioning of 9/11
no hard questioning of the Patriot Act
no hard questioning of warrantless wiretaps
no hard questioning of the Iraq/Afghanistan War
no hard questioning of FEMA's role in Katrina
no hard questioning of the bank bailouts

and on and on.

are you serious?

Who is the popular media you are talking about? I remember a lot being said about most of the things you just posted on Olbermann, and some of the CNN shows.

BTW, I still don't see Obama getting out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Maybe there's some truth to WHY we went over there in the first place. Oh wait, you need a conspiracy right? I'll let BGOL keep their tin hats on....
 
are you serious?

Who is the popular media you are talking about? I remember a lot being said about most of the things you just posted on Olbermann, and some of the CNN shows.

BTW, I still don't see Obama getting out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Maybe there's some truth to WHY we went over there in the first place. Oh wait, you need a conspiracy right? I'll let BGOL keep their tin hats on....

The mass media are the popular TV (NBC/CBS/ABC), print (Newsweek/Wall Street Journal/Washington Post), radio, and websites (Yahoo!/Google/Myspace).

Let me get this straight, you believe today's mass media has power because it is independent and disobeys government orders?

I'll just say that is a naive vision.
 
The mass media are the popular TV (NBC/CBS/ABC), print (Newsweek/Wall Street Journal/Washington Post), radio, and websites (Yahoo!/Google/Myspace).

Let me get this straight, you believe today's mass media has power because it is independent and disobeys government orders?

I'll just say that is a naive vision.


I'll just say that is a naive vision.

That's not naivete', that's the universe actinanass exists in.
 
are you serious?

Who is the popular media you are talking about? I remember a lot being said about most of the things you just posted on Olbermann, and some of the CNN shows.

BTW, I still don't see Obama getting out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Maybe there's some truth to WHY we went over there in the first place. Oh wait, you need a conspiracy right? I'll let BGOL keep their tin hats on....

BTW, I still don't see Obama getting out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Maybe there's some truth to WHY we went over there in the first place.

There is a lot of pressure being exerted on Obama by the military/congressional industrial complex to ratchet up the war in Afghanistan. He as showing some balls by allowing AG Holder to do some what of an investigation in the CIA torture chain of command, even though the republicans are pressuring him to stop all inquires. We will see what his decision will be by giving the pentagon those 30,000 or more troops they claim they need.
 
There is a lot of pressure being exerted on Obama by the military/congressional industrial complex to ratchet up the war in Afghanistan. He as showing some balls by allowing AG Holder to do some what of an investigation in the CIA torture chain of command, even though the republicans are pressuring him to stop all inquires. We will see what his decision will be by giving the pentagon those 30,000 or more troops they claim they need.

wait & see? the writing is on the wall, McChrystal is askin for 500,000 troops! and he'll get them
 
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