~Miami Heat 2014-2015 Official Thread - Reload not Rebuild~
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Deng bout to have another big game on his old squad.
Miami gotta get some fucking buckets, where's the fucking points at...
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For much of the season, the Dallas Mavericks' elite offense translated into victories and one of the top spots in the Western Conference.
But as the points have diminished, so have the wins.
Mired in a season-worst losing streak, the Mavericks will look to get their scorers back on track Friday night when they visit a Miami Heat team that will be without Dwyane Wade and Luol Deng.
Dallas (30-17) rolled through its first 36 games, grabbing 26 wins behind an offense that led the NBA through Jan. 5 with 109.5 points per game. The Mavericks' 47.7 field-goal percentage was second in the league and they were 15-0 when shooting better than 50 percent.
In the time since, that high-powered offense has ground to a halt. Dallas has averaged 99.6 points and shot 44.8 percent. The Mavericks find themselves in the midst of a four-game skid after Wednesday's 99-94 loss at Houston to a team without Dwight Howard.
"There's no one answer, but we've got to keep up the collective fight," coach Rick Carlisle told the team's official website. "We all own this. We all own losses, we all own what happens when it's a struggling period of time, and that's why we always say we've got to stick together and fight through it."
Monta Ellis scored 33 points against the Rockets -- he had 36 at New Orleans two games earlier -- but the Mavericks' other backcourt starter has struggled. After averaging 15.4 points and 7.4 assists through his first seven games with Dallas, Rondo has averaged 6.8 points and 6.8 assists since.
Rondo was held scoreless Wednesday, marking the first time in his career that he has recorded zero points with at least 34 minutes of playing time.
"Some of the dynamics have changed," Carlisle said. "But our guys are learning that if Rondo has the ball and he's attacking, they either need to get to open spots or cut and he's going to find them. I just think that's a little adjusting. In some ways, we're on track and making progress."
Miami (20-25) allowed just 87.8 points per game and limited opponents to 40.2 percent shooting while winning six of 10 prior to Tuesday, but it fell apart defensively against Milwaukee. The Bucks shot 54.9 percent and got to the line 30 times as the Heat surrendered their most points since Dec. 3 in a 109-102 loss.
Miami took another injury hit in the defeat as well, losing Wade in the third quarter to a right hamstring strain. Wade won't play Friday and said he could miss two to three weeks.
"While we're having one part play well, we can't even get the other parts on the court, let alone play well," Chris Bosh, who has missed eight games due to injury, told the Heat's official website.
"It's so disappointing not to be at full strength or at least 75 percent. We don't have room for injury."
Luol Deng won't play, either, due to a calf injury, but Chris Andersen is expected to return after sitting out with an elbow injury against Milwaukee.
Deng had a season-high 30 points while Wade and Bosh added 20 apiece against the Mavericks on Nov. 9 as the Heat won 105-96 for their seventh straight victory in the series.
Dallas hasn't beaten Miami since its championship-clinching win in Game 6 of the 2011 NBA Finals.
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For much of the season, the Dallas Mavericks' elite offense translated into victories and one of the top spots in the Western Conference.
But as the points have diminished, so have the wins.
Mired in a season-worst losing streak, the Mavericks will look to get their scorers back on track Friday night when they visit a Miami Heat team that will be without Dwyane Wade and Luol Deng.
Dallas (30-17) rolled through its first 36 games, grabbing 26 wins behind an offense that led the NBA through Jan. 5 with 109.5 points per game. The Mavericks' 47.7 field-goal percentage was second in the league and they were 15-0 when shooting better than 50 percent.
In the time since, that high-powered offense has ground to a halt. Dallas has averaged 99.6 points and shot 44.8 percent. The Mavericks find themselves in the midst of a four-game skid after Wednesday's 99-94 loss at Houston to a team without Dwight Howard.
"There's no one answer, but we've got to keep up the collective fight," coach Rick Carlisle told the team's official website. "We all own this. We all own losses, we all own what happens when it's a struggling period of time, and that's why we always say we've got to stick together and fight through it."
Monta Ellis scored 33 points against the Rockets -- he had 36 at New Orleans two games earlier -- but the Mavericks' other backcourt starter has struggled. After averaging 15.4 points and 7.4 assists through his first seven games with Dallas, Rondo has averaged 6.8 points and 6.8 assists since.
Rondo was held scoreless Wednesday, marking the first time in his career that he has recorded zero points with at least 34 minutes of playing time.
"Some of the dynamics have changed," Carlisle said. "But our guys are learning that if Rondo has the ball and he's attacking, they either need to get to open spots or cut and he's going to find them. I just think that's a little adjusting. In some ways, we're on track and making progress."
Miami (20-25) allowed just 87.8 points per game and limited opponents to 40.2 percent shooting while winning six of 10 prior to Tuesday, but it fell apart defensively against Milwaukee. The Bucks shot 54.9 percent and got to the line 30 times as the Heat surrendered their most points since Dec. 3 in a 109-102 loss.
Miami took another injury hit in the defeat as well, losing Wade in the third quarter to a right hamstring strain. Wade won't play Friday and said he could miss two to three weeks.
"While we're having one part play well, we can't even get the other parts on the court, let alone play well," Chris Bosh, who has missed eight games due to injury, told the Heat's official website.
"It's so disappointing not to be at full strength or at least 75 percent. We don't have room for injury."
Luol Deng won't play, either, due to a calf injury, but Chris Andersen is expected to return after sitting out with an elbow injury against Milwaukee.
Deng had a season-high 30 points while Wade and Bosh added 20 apiece against the Mavericks on Nov. 9 as the Heat won 105-96 for their seventh straight victory in the series.
Dallas hasn't beaten Miami since its championship-clinching win in Game 6 of the 2011 NBA Finals.
Team is a fucking joke. Folks called Wade missing games. Bosh ain't earning his fucking money. Paper tiger. 
Should have went to Houston and been the 3rd wheel for Harden and Dwight.
Should have went to Houston and been the 3rd wheel for Harden and Dwight.
Team is a fucking joke. Folks called Wade missing games. Bosh ain't earning his fucking money. Paper tiger.
They just can seem to put a good string if games together. They have some pretty decent victories.
Team is a fucking joke. Folks called Wade missing games. Bosh ain't earning his fucking money. Paper tiger.
True
still better than and has done more with less than Kevin love
while you talking shit and lebron went down and the cavs with kyrie went like 1-7
that's the sole reason you're in here. to try to highlight this and prop up love
while you talking shit and lebron went down and the cavs with kyrie went like 1-7
that's the sole reason you're in here. to try to highlight this and prop up love
Fam the heat roster is beyond trash. It ain't true lol. Beyond trash and they still 7th and in the playoffs at this point with him and wade both missing time.
Team is a fucking joke. Folks called Wade missing games. Bosh ain't earning his fucking money. Paper tiger.
Fuck out of here nigga
And go talk about that fraud ass cac on your team
Bosh got his chips he ain't got shit to prove especially to a shitty ass city with clowns n it who still lookin to get a ring.. Keep dream chasing
Only person that's a joke is Kevin Love
Check this tho bills Heat still have a better record than the cavs when Bron left
Keep the ether on Gene... I'm gonna go in on him when them niggas can't that L in the first round
Yeah a healthy wade aint gonna happen this is why Lebron was like im out....get kyrie a younger better player.
Hate to say it but charles was right WADE aint a all star this year.
Bosh saw this coming and still resigned with miami
But with hassan whiteside and if both wade,bosh and deng get healthy they can still be dangerous.....but those are BIG IFS??????????
Hate to say it but charles was right WADE aint a all star this year.
Bosh saw this coming and still resigned with miami
But with hassan whiteside and if both wade,bosh and deng get healthy they can still be dangerous.....but those are BIG IFS??????????
I understand the roster trash but 7th in the east ain't some sort of great feat
That's why them niggas stay over there in the Eastern Conference with that weak ass shit
Missing games and shit
Can't do that in the west unless you the Spurs
And what he said is true
Wade still missing games and Bosh ain't stepping up
Damn sure not playing like a max player and I defended him
I still think he better than Love tho for what's it's worth
The difference between us is that I admit both ain't shit. You cape for Bosh. Put the cape away. Bosh has a better roster than the Timberwolves had last year. He is in a softer conference. He has riles. He has a coach who won chips. But Bosh ain't doing shit.
Listen, I never wanted Love. But making Bosh out to be superior to Love isn't where it's at.
Again, I can't stand either one of those cats. Both are a waste of height. Bosh can't even get double digit boards. Love can't play defense. It's a shame.
Lebron had to lead the team in rebounds playing with Bosh.
Without Wade as a second option, that team wasn't winning shit. So if Irving = Wade, Love can get his third wheel Bosh on.....
Man that nigga had Dirk on him a lot of the time and that mufucka is a statue
He ain't crashing no boards and he ain't playing no defense
Congrats to the stats and the L
He ain't crashing no boards and he ain't playing no defense
Congrats to the stats and the L
Bosh got rings thanks to Lebron and Wade. Sure as shit wasn't his 14 and 6 lighting up the playoffs. Sure as shit wasn't him in the regular season. That's why he got clowned for years -- just like Bosh is now.
Wish we'd have kept Wiggins. Wouldn't give up Wiggins for either Bosh or Love. It's amazing how any of you can take sides in this. They both are 3rd options who can't do shit if they have to lead a team.
The difference between us is that I admit both ain't shit. You cape for Bosh. Put the cape away. Bosh has a better roster than the Timberwolves had last year. He is in a softer conference. He has riles. He has a coach who won chips. But Bosh ain't doing shit.
Listen, I never wanted Love. But making Bosh out to be superior to Love isn't where it's at.
Again, I can't stand either one of those cats. Both are a waste of height. Bosh can't even get double digit boards. Love can't play defense. It's a shame.
Lebron had to lead the team in rebounds playing with Bosh.
Foh you u ever put Irving in the same breath as Wade or love with Bosh
Them niggas champs not stat padding no defense playing clowns
Bosh lead The raps to the playoffs.. Now cease that bullshit yappin
Love lead the wolves to 40 wins in a much tougher conference.
And now we see Bosh ain't doing shit this year. Told you cats the Heat wouldn't be shit with Bosh leading this team.
At the same time, I wanted to keep Wiggins over Love.
So I was right on both. Love = Bosh. Bosh = Love.
Man all I know is when I was at the gym, these niggas were up 46-32 in the second half. On my way out, Dallas caught up with them 63-60 early in the 4th. How they lose by damn near 20 points?
im not even saying bosh is playing all world. he's been injured too.
im saying he coming in here popping shit about what bosh can't do with d league and european players and ignoring what love couldn't do with kyrie fucking irving.
like the bar is ridiculously high and its too early to pop shit.
with lebron bosh went to 4 straight finals and won 2 rings....
that's the bar.
The difference between us is that I admit both ain't shit. You cape for Bosh. Put the cape away. Bosh has a better roster than the Timberwolves had last year. He is in a softer conference. He has riles. He has a coach who won chips. But Bosh ain't doing shit.
Listen, I never wanted Love. But making Bosh out to be superior to Love isn't where it's at.
Again, I can't stand either one of those cats. Both are a waste of height. Bosh can't even get double digit boards. Love can't play defense. It's a shame.
Lebron had to lead the team in rebounds playing with Bosh.
Bosh is superior to love. He is period.
Highlighting bosh not playing well doesn't make love better.
What we said was fact. Bosh before lebron led the raptors to the playoffs and not the 8th seed either. Love never did it.
Now bosh is with the heat and he's playing average. that don't take away what he's done and is proven he can do.
That's all i have said and will say.
4 finals and 2 rings is the bar for love now that he is playing with lebron and kyrie.
Bosh - 16/7 as third option last year
Love - 17/10 as third option this year
Love - 17/10 as third option this year
Bosh got to be better than this...
spo just been terrible......
Dallas went on a thirty something to 2 point run on the heat...
UNACCEPTABLE
spo just been terrible......
Dallas went on a thirty something to 2 point run on the heat...
UNACCEPTABLE
And I still believe Love is in the playoffs too if his sota teams were in the weak east. East been weak for over a decade. What kills me is people used to flame Lebron for doing what he did in the weak east.
Best record raptors had was in 2007. Same year Bron went to the finals with a bunch of fucking bums. And what was said about Bron's accomplishment?
It was... "so what, he did it in the east. He wouldn't have made it past the second round in the west." Now we are using Bosh's east record as proof of superiority? I just can't do it. Put Bosh in the west, he is in Love's situation.
I do agree with the 4 finals and 2 rings, but let's not forget that most don't put Irving in Wade's class. Wade was the best at his position when they won those rings. Top 5 players. Some people don't even put Irving in the top 5 of PGs. So Bosh got to ride the coattails of arguably a better duo.
And it's no wonder why they tried to force Wade to be the second option last year despite being hurt. Trying to ride Bosh ain't going to translate to wins. It's shown this year.
Bosh - 16/7 as third option last year
Love - 17/10 as third option this year
Bosh's numbers in the playoffs are even worse. That's when you are supposed to elevate your game. And guess what? I'm expecting Love to mirror Bosh. I'd be shocked if he maintains his averages during the post-season.
These two are just pieces. Period. You hope they show up once in awhile like Love did last night, but for the most part, you just pencil them in for their numbers.
And every expert who watched Love play in sota has stated that Love isn't being properly utilized in the Cavs' offense. It's still a work in process.
Basically... Everyone is trying to act like Love is playing like Henry Sims or some shit... Dudes numbers are better than Bosh's last year, he's not THAT far off from Bosh's numbers this year, as a 3rd option to Bosh being the first option, AND Bosh's fall off in stats in his first year with LeBron compared to his last year with Toronto are comparable to Loves fall off from last year with Minny, so again... a lot of people are talking out of their ass...
Also, when LeBron got hurt, Love's numbers improved noticeably. The team took some L's, but it was not a direct result of his play... With Wade hurt, Bosh hardly EVER steps up!! Shit, Whiteside might be the best player on the team right now...
He's not been playing well lately, but find me ANY team who wouldn't take 17/10 from their starting PF...
Basically... Everyone is trying to act like Love is playing like Henry Sims or some shit... Dudes numbers are better than Bosh's last year, he's not THAT far off from Bosh's numbers this year, as a 3rd option to Bosh being the first option, AND Bosh's fall off in stats in his first year with LeBron compared to his last year with Toronto are comparable to Loves fall off from last year with Minny, so again... a lot of people are talking out of their ass...
Also, when LeBron got hurt, Love's numbers improved noticeably. The team took some L's, but it was not a direct result of his play... With Wade hurt, Bosh hardly EVER steps up!! Shit, Whiteside might be the best player on the team right now...
He's not been playing well lately, but find me ANY team who wouldn't take 17/10 from their starting PF...
If Love puts up 12/7 and 14/7 during a playoff title run like Bosh did, cats will have nothing but bad things to say about Love -- much like they did when Bosh did it. But through revisionist history, we are now led to believe Bosh was Mr. Impact. And all the shit he took for 4 years didn't happen. Hilarious.
If Love puts up better numbers in the playoffs and the Cavs get a title, the Bosh defenders will say his numbers are just stat padding.
I don't like either one of them, so I'm looking at the situation honestly. Wish we had kept Wiggins.
Point guard play aint helping.
I know, its been so that Napier is getting run....
There's definitely a youth movement going in down there...
Tyler Johnson is on a 10 day contract...
Whiteside has emerged as a player, while just being active(no sets/plays really for him)...
Napier is getting minutes while the Heat is listening to calls for Cole(likely to Hornets)...
Ennis plays here and there but have been seeing solid minutes over the last week...
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