~Miami Heat 2014-2015 Official Thread - Reload not Rebuild~

They damn near took 30 shots from deep...

I'm thinking this will be a nightly thing, with teams packing the paint
 
Good game tonight. :dance: The young talent is coming together. It will be interesting to see what the regular rotation and team chemistry will be by mid-season.
 
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Lookin like Kenny Sky Walker out there
 
im not even going to entertain how this thread is going to turn into how good bosh is after the 4 years i just went through defending him :hmm:

You were not alone

Most Heat fans on here knew what was up with Bosh tho

He was just being misused

Matter of fact after a larger sample size of Bosh as the #1 guy the threads where comparisons to Bosh and Kevin Love need to be bumped

I'll still take Bosh

The boy can play period
 
You were not alone

Most Heat fans on here knew what was up with Bosh tho

He was just being misused

Matter of fact after a larger sample size of Bosh as the #1 guy the threads where comparisons to Bosh and Kevin Love need to be bumped

I'll still take Bosh

The boy can play period

Bosh still has a better number 2 than Love ever did.

The true test will be how Love does this year. If he shoots over 40 percent from 3 while getting more boards than Bosh, there isn't much to talk about if this team wins a chip.

Love >>>

If he doesn't....

Bosh >>>

Let's see if Lebron has to lead the Cavs in boards like he did in Miami.
 
Bosh still has a better number 2 than Love ever did.

The true test will be how Love does this year. If he shoots over 40 percent from 3 while getting more boards than Bosh, there isn't much to talk about if this team wins a chip.

Love >>>

If he doesn't....

Bosh >>>

Let's see if Lebron has to lead the Cavs in boards like he did in Miami.



The correct comparison would be Love in Spo system where he doesn't want a big man in the paint so that lebron and wade can operate.

that's why Bosh didn't get rebounds and wasn't inside majority of the time or night.
 
The correct comparison would be Love in Spo system where he doesn't want a big man in the paint so that lebron and wade can operate.

that's why Bosh didn't get rebounds and wasn't inside majority of the time or night.

Love wants more inside touches in Blatt's system. Blatt wants him to stretch the floor. Only difference is he is a far superior outside shooter when compared to Bosh.

Bosh best season hitting threes eating of Lebron's double teams was 33 percent. LOL...If Love shoots those numbers, he is a fucking bust. Love shot better being the focal point of defenses.
 
I was looking at the box score, why was Shawne Williams starting. Dude went 1-9 shooting.

Ennis is hard a great preseason. He's gonna be there guy who steps up when Wade needs rest.
 
good game

but I am not fooled by any of this

Mia was luck Nene was not in this game due to suspension and Wash not having Beal.

Mia actually feasted on the boards....that is not going to happen regularly

Cole with 23 points wont be a regular occurrence either

Good Win but thinking certain problems are gonna go away is fools gold guys..
 
The correct comparison would be Love in Spo system where he doesn't want a big man in the paint so that lebron and wade can operate.

that's why Bosh didn't get rebounds and wasn't inside majority of the time or night.

Co sign

Gene talkin bullshit again
 
good game

but I am not fooled by any of this

Mia was luck Nene was not in this game due to suspension and Wash not having Beal.

Mia actually feasted on the boards....that is not going to happen regularly

Cole with 23 points wont be a regular occurrence either

Good Win but thinking certain problems are gonna go away is fools gold guys..

Good start but give it 15 games before you go ham :lol:
 
I was looking at the box score, why was Shawne Williams starting. Dude went 1-9 shooting.



Ennis is hard a great preseason. He's gonna be there guy who steps up when Wade needs rest.


Dude was throwing up ugly bricks too he wasn't just missing. Granger was in plain clothes was he hurt?
 
Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN about 8 minutes ago
ICYMI: First regular-season PICTURES on Chris Bosh being scary good last night. sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/30…



Chris Bosh shows why he's a matchup nightmare
By Mike Prada  @MikePradaSBN on Oct 30 2014, 1:53p 13


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Without LeBron James, the Miami Heat need Chris Bosh to carry the scoring load. If the first game was any indication, he's up for the task.

 (74)  (171)  13
Chris Bosh can't merely return to the level he showed back with the Toronto Raptors. For the Miami Heat to be a threat in the East, he has to be better. He must combine the lessons he learned in his four years with LeBron James with the raw tools that made him successful early in his career with the Toronto Raptors

He has to evolve and devolve at the same time. Good luck.


But Heat fans have to be glowing after watching him rip an admittedly shorthanded Wizards team in Miami's 107-95 season-opening win. Bosh was already too skilled in the post for smaller defenders, too quick for slower ones and too accurate from the perimeter for traditional big men.

Now, he's all that empowered in a Heat setup that actually requires him to use his many gifts. Because Bosh is forced to do it all, we get to see all the ways he becomes a matchup problem.

We knew his ability to shoot from the perimeter made the Heat's style work, and that remains true even without LeBron. Relax for a second, as Drew Gooden did on this staggered pick and roll with Norris Cole and Chris Andersen, and Bosh is sticking a top-of-the-key three.

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We also know this shooting makes Bosh the ICE-buster. ICE refers to when teams force the ball-handler on side pick and rolls to go to the baseline, limiting their options. But when a great shooter like Bosh is the big man, the shot the defense is willing to give up with this strategy actually becomes a serious threat. Thus, it confuses what should be a coherent strategy.

Consider this play in the fourth quarter. The Wizards force Mario Chalmers to the sideline, using Bosh's man, Kris Humphries, to eventually trap him in the corner. This is standard side pick and roll defense for most NBA teams.

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This style of defense works because there aren't many teams that have big men with as much range as Bosh setting this screen. The best most bigs can do is try to reset the play or swing it to the other side. But because Bosh is a good three-point shooter and a huge threat to put it on the floor and score, the Wizards start scrambling.

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And thus, you get a 3 on 2 situation. Rasual Butler picks up the diving Andersen, leaving poor Kevin Seraphin to run at Bosh. (This should be reversed, but again, this is the panic Bosh causes). James Ennis is wide open on the opposite side and eventually attacks the gap for a layup.

Screen_Shot_2014-10-30_at_12.16.45_PM.0.png


All this was true with LeBron as a teammate. The difference now is that Bosh is getting his inside and mid-post touches back and has free rein to attack with a spaced floor that stretches help defenders far too wide thanks to Erik Spoelstra's insistence on using lots of perimeter shooting.

Last season, Bosh averaged just 5.3 elbow and 31.9 "frontcourt" touches per game, according to SportVU data. Many of those "frontcourt" touches were off passes from LeBron James or Dwyane Wade. On Wednesday, Bosh had a whopping 13 elbow touches and 50 frontcourt ones. Only Marc Gasol, who practically lives at the elbow, matched Bosh's number through the first two nights of the NBA season.

It's in the mid-post where Bosh is especially good. Teams are reluctant to let him drive to the middle of the floor with his strong left hand, but they also need to crowd him to prevent the jumper. Thus, the baseline is often left open, and Bosh is looking to attack. Poor Humphries doesn't have a chance here.

(Missing clips, I can't embed vine clips)

Here's the same scenario, except with Seraphin guarding Bosh. Petrified about letting Bosh drive to his right, Humphries comes over to cut off the baseline. But Bosh is so skilled that he's able to jab right, swing back to his left and induce one of the zillion fouls he'll surely draw in this spot all season.

(Missing clips, I can't embed vine clips)

And let's say you prevent Bosh from driving in either direction. In that case, he can just pull up and do this.

(Missing clips, I can't embed vine clips)

Wednesday's game was a firm reminder that Bosh is a triple threat from the mid-post area and has exactly the kind of team that allows him to thrive in that spot. As long as the Heat play small, he'll always have plenty of space once he beats his primary defender.

With the ability to drive right, drive left or shoot in his bag of tricks, Bosh has all the tools to carry Miami's offense for an entire season. He always had that ability, but now we finally get to see it in action.
 
Damn real heat fans I figured a bunch of ya'll would jump on the Cavs bandwagon. I been gone for a minute who jumped ship?
 
Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN about 8 minutes ago
ICYMI: First regular-season PICTURES on Chris Bosh being scary good last night. sbnation.com/nba/2014/10/30…



Chris Bosh shows why he's a matchup nightmare
By Mike Prada  @MikePradaSBN on Oct 30 2014, 1:53p 13


20141029_pjc_su8_103.JPG.0_standard_709.0.jpg


Without LeBron James, the Miami Heat need Chris Bosh to carry the scoring load. If the first game was any indication, he's up for the task.

 (74)  (171)  13
Chris Bosh can't merely return to the level he showed back with the Toronto Raptors. For the Miami Heat to be a threat in the East, he has to be better. He must combine the lessons he learned in his four years with LeBron James with the raw tools that made him successful early in his career with the Toronto Raptors

He has to evolve and devolve at the same time. Good luck.


But Heat fans have to be glowing after watching him rip an admittedly shorthanded Wizards team in Miami's 107-95 season-opening win. Bosh was already too skilled in the post for smaller defenders, too quick for slower ones and too accurate from the perimeter for traditional big men.

Now, he's all that empowered in a Heat setup that actually requires him to use his many gifts. Because Bosh is forced to do it all, we get to see all the ways he becomes a matchup problem.

We knew his ability to shoot from the perimeter made the Heat's style work, and that remains true even without LeBron. Relax for a second, as Drew Gooden did on this staggered pick and roll with Norris Cole and Chris Andersen, and Bosh is sticking a top-of-the-key three.

Screen_Shot_2014-10-30_at_11.09.45_AM.0.png


bosh1.0.gif


We also know this shooting makes Bosh the ICE-buster. ICE refers to when teams force the ball-handler on side pick and rolls to go to the baseline, limiting their options. But when a great shooter like Bosh is the big man, the shot the defense is willing to give up with this strategy actually becomes a serious threat. Thus, it confuses what should be a coherent strategy.

Consider this play in the fourth quarter. The Wizards force Mario Chalmers to the sideline, using Bosh's man, Kris Humphries, to eventually trap him in the corner. This is standard side pick and roll defense for most NBA teams.

Screen_Shot_2014-10-30_at_12.15.48_PM.0.png


Screen_Shot_2014-10-30_at_12.16.08_PM.0.png


This style of defense works because there aren't many teams that have big men with as much range as Bosh setting this screen. The best most bigs can do is try to reset the play or swing it to the other side. But because Bosh is a good three-point shooter and a huge threat to put it on the floor and score, the Wizards start scrambling.

Screen_Shot_2014-10-30_at_12.16.20_PM.0.png


And thus, you get a 3 on 2 situation. Rasual Butler picks up the diving Andersen, leaving poor Kevin Seraphin to run at Bosh. (This should be reversed, but again, this is the panic Bosh causes). James Ennis is wide open on the opposite side and eventually attacks the gap for a layup.

Screen_Shot_2014-10-30_at_12.16.45_PM.0.png


All this was true with LeBron as a teammate. The difference now is that Bosh is getting his inside and mid-post touches back and has free rein to attack with a spaced floor that stretches help defenders far too wide thanks to Erik Spoelstra's insistence on using lots of perimeter shooting.

Last season, Bosh averaged just 5.3 elbow and 31.9 "frontcourt" touches per game, according to SportVU data. Many of those "frontcourt" touches were off passes from LeBron James or Dwyane Wade. On Wednesday, Bosh had a whopping 13 elbow touches and 50 frontcourt ones. Only Marc Gasol, who practically lives at the elbow, matched Bosh's number through the first two nights of the NBA season.

It's in the mid-post where Bosh is especially good. Teams are reluctant to let him drive to the middle of the floor with his strong left hand, but they also need to crowd him to prevent the jumper. Thus, the baseline is often left open, and Bosh is looking to attack. Poor Humphries doesn't have a chance here.

(Missing clips, I can't embed vine clips)

Here's the same scenario, except with Seraphin guarding Bosh. Petrified about letting Bosh drive to his right, Humphries comes over to cut off the baseline. But Bosh is so skilled that he's able to jab right, swing back to his left and induce one of the zillion fouls he'll surely draw in this spot all season.

(Missing clips, I can't embed vine clips)

And let's say you prevent Bosh from driving in either direction. In that case, he can just pull up and do this.

(Missing clips, I can't embed vine clips)

Wednesday's game was a firm reminder that Bosh is a triple threat from the mid-post area and has exactly the kind of team that allows him to thrive in that spot. As long as the Heat play small, he'll always have plenty of space once he beats his primary defender.

With the ability to drive right, drive left or shoot in his bag of tricks, Bosh has all the tools to carry Miami's offense for an entire season. He always had that ability, but now we finally get to see it in action.

When Bosh hits the outside shot, they never lose... The trick that the Spurs did was they placed a smaller guy on him and used him to shadow him and get into his shooting zone daring him to beat him in the post.. I am more impressed by Bosh posting up and taking advantages of these type of match ups..
 
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