Method Man says he will never perform at summer jam Hot 97 again.

Agree or he trippin?


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Man I was sitting here thinking to myself, am I tripin with this new gen? I mean, I use to jam this




Then I think, naw, that shit was jammin. Those females that named themselves after an STD :puke: I guess I miss the old school ways of seducing a woman.








I do miss the time when we had music that taught me something,










It would have taken me decades to know that Elvis and John Wayne were POS to the black man.


200%

But again whose fault is that?

As a music and a culture did we support so called positive rap? Positive women on rap? Making sure the music was accessible and appropriate to our kids?
 
^^^^

No need to trash this new genertion taste in music

because our elders did the EXACT SAM E THING to our taste in music.

but I would have hoped Wu Tang could be a potential bridge cause in MY opinion its timeless and is the foundation for all the modern music we hear now in one way or another.
Our elders may have trashed our music but most people in my generation (Gen X) never turned our back on theirs. When I was a kid and in my twenties I loved 60s and 70s music. I still do today even though I wasn't born when it was recorded. These young kids do themselves no favors dismissing the music of my youth. They're missing out bad.
 
We, not it's you folks who have kids that didn't teach them anything about music..lol And also didn't teach them anything common sense wise.

Corporate America has hijacked rap & a good space of current r&b also, once they figured out that they could use it to dumb down our community even more they've gone full speed ahead.

It kinda saddens me that my kids dont like rap.

they like Kendrick not Cole every party is Drake but it's interesting my youngest likes Jay Z and tribe and jazz literally from the womb.

but on tl the bigger point the WAY we consume music is complicated different and it's unfair to really compare the two.
 
you honestly can’t compare todays generation to past generations music wise. It’s painfully obviously worse. There’s zero longevity with these new idiots outside of Drake and a handful. Not to mention please find me something from the 90’s and early 2000’s as bad as this.

 
Niggas old as hell tryin to get they rappin on in the club looking like a fucking chaperone - Kanye West.
 
No point in history has Black American culture remained the same. It usually evolves every 10 years.

Our culture is a byproduct of our state in society. Always been that way. Just think about the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and now 2020s. None of those decades are the same musically and culturally. So what exactly would we be trying to protect? Is this more about preserving what gave us good memories?

You know how we are as Black folks. We do the same thing EVERY generation and we have this same conversation each decade. We have a strong “fuck them old heads” culture.

Kaboom

Hip hop will be fine.

It's OUR responsibility to cherish OUR era like OTHER MUSIC GENRES DO.
 
You're suppose to win over a crowd and make new fans who will google,youtube,search your music out,that's part of the game for new and old artist.

Meth is spoiled and wanted a cheat code where everyone knew his lyrics word for word and I don't,never been a fan of his.
There's tricks and tips to draw in new fans and him and Doc could of smoked an el white performing and that alone would of sparked an interest in the fans and went into how high,run some of their classic stuff and it probably would of been a different responce
 
Kaboom

Hip hop will be fine.

It's OUR responsibility to cherish OUR era like OTHER MUSIC GENRES DO.

And eventually we’ll fade.

Just like Cab Calloway, The Delta Rhythm Boys, Fats Waller, Louis Jordan, Lynn Abbritton, International Sweethearts of Rhythm, Maurice Rocco, Billie Holiday, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Vanita Smithe, the Mills Brothers, etc faded.

It’ll be historical like the artists I mentioned. Personally, I love big band and jazz from the 40s, but we ain’t checking for that are we?
 
And eventually we’ll fade.

Just like Cab Calloway, The Delta Rhythm Boys, Fats Waller, Louis Jordan, Lynn Abbritton, International Sweethearts of Rhythm, Maurice Rocco, Billie Holiday, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Vanita Smithe, the Mills Brothers, etc faded.

It’ll be historical like the artists I mentioned. Personally, I love big band and jazz from the 40s, but we ain’t checking for that are we?

Vulcan bars of truth
 
No point in history has Black American culture remained the same. It usually evolves every 10 years.

Our culture is a byproduct of our state in society. Always been that way. Just think about the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and now 2020s. None of those decades are the same musically and culturally. So what exactly would we be trying to protect? Is this more about preserving what gave us good memories?

You know how we are as Black folks. We do the same thing EVERY generation and we have this same conversation each decade. We have a strong “fuck them old heads” culture.
That music never went away. Rap and early hip hop sampled all that old music.

OGs in black culture get more respect than most. White kids cuss at their mom's like she some type of dumb bitch

When people act like black people are worse in the respect than others it makes me laugh. Rock and Roll is dead because white kids don't respect the past.

These kids look up to us and are recycling our music because of misguided love. Like an earlier poster said, lack of parenting is the problem. These of mostly single moms kids who biggest experience in hip hop is when their groupie moms reminiscing over getting piped down by a rapper.

They may have even had the privilege seeing a rapper sneak out their mom's bedroom too. My mom never fucked Kool and the Gang but I guarantee some of these kids are neglected rappers bastards.
 
Summer Jam used to be at Giants Stadium and was PACKED, 80K+. Now it’s in an arena with maybe what, 10k in attendance? Says a lot. That lineup was trash. Some folks on that bill were relevant…..for what, six months? A year? In 2022?

Meth ain’t wrong, but look at that lineup they were on with, no one was there to see him and Red. Sad as it might be, for that crowd, their music is their parents (or quietly, their GRANDPARENTS) generation. Beats, content, stage cadence, 25 and under crowd could give a fuck less about it. They ain’t into “hip hop” per se, “hip hop” is a beat talking about whatever, as long as the hook is catchy, it’s what they like.

Lot of money to be made on the mid-age circuit. Shit, I’ve seen Wu-Tang and Nas at an NBA arena and saw Nas before that at a casino, both times, packed houses with folks spending good money on tickets and merchandise.
I’m taking my son to the Missy concert. To see Busta Rhymes cannot be captured in words.

I never saw DMX.
 
EVERYTHING you just said...plus how old is that song he's playing? That song is older than BOTH my kids put together!!!! But even if he and Redman came out with something new. THAT crowd wouldn't know it!

I remember Meth and Red came to Grand Rapids, MI and Meth told us: 'If security pushes you, push them back!" Thus, resulting in us storming the stage while they performed. In Pontiac Michigan and Method Man WALKED on us! We held him up with our hands as he walked out ON the crowd. He's not going to get that with THIS crowd and there is nothing wrong with that, but good for him that he can still perform at this level.
This post reminds me of Prodigy’s verse on Thun and Kicko.
 
He's right

It's generational these kids don't appreciate music the same.
Even though there is very huge generational gap, I'm sure their parents grew up on 90's hip hop. So they should be familiar.

Another thing that isn't mentioned is that hip hop isn't as timeless as other genre's of music where it crosses all racial cultural, socio-economic and especially time period era's. So unless you were born or old enough to be around to appreciate the music in the era it came out.......hip hop doesn't resonate as well like other genre's of music the same way.
 
I have little cousins that were born between 01-05. I've talked with them about music and even let them hear some music from the 90's and when they were born. The shit that came outta there mouths and the music they let me listen to. :smh: Google fucking Baby Kia and that'll tell you all you need to know.

Needless to say, Method Man has no business performing in front of anybody in that generation.
 
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That's kind of how I felt about The Roots Picnic this past weekend. Sexy Redd and Nas were performing at the same time on different stages. You could clearly tell who the Sexy Redd fans were. We dipped after the Nas performance. Watching the news later that night they were calling him "90s rapper Nas". That along with the 90 minute wait to get in Sunday because they didn't have a "no bag line" got me like fuck that concert next year.
 
Meth can go on tour and sell out or get any job he want. But the uncs and the tee tee’s ain’t going to that Summer Jam shit to be with them young people….that crowd is on a different wave. Wu Tang forever….
 
The generation gap is real....

side note: I was peepin' this youtube video on Luka Dončić and he was born in 1999...lol. Dayummmm...man. 1999! These NBA players used to be old to me. I could have sworn that Artis Glimore was 62 years old....back when he played in the 80s.
Naw you right lol….i didn’t realize I was getting old until I seen these niggas getting drafted named Shaquille and Raekwon lol….bro I remember when Bronny was born lol…..
 
No point in history has Black American culture remained the same. It usually evolves every 10 years.

Our culture is a byproduct of our state in society. Always been that way. Just think about the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and now 2020s. None of those decades are the same musically and culturally. So what exactly would we be trying to protect? Is this more about preserving what gave us good memories?

You know how we are as Black folks. We do the same thing EVERY generation and we have this same conversation each decade. We have a strong “fuck them old heads” culture.

What we should be trying to do is protect our music & not let it be used against us or polluted by CAC's. Up until the early to mid 2000's we had a lot of quality R&B, even that shit has gone to crap. Those artist who are still putting out quality get little to no commercial airplay, you have to go to XM/Sirus or something like that to hear it. All you get on commercial radio is carbon copy acts who barely have talent or the lyrics are garbage.

Rap went down hill even quicker once corp america got their hands on it & this generation of dim witted consumers don't even realize what's happening. 90% of the lyrics are about drug use, killing & other dumb shit.
 
You're suppose to win over a crowd and make new fans who will google,youtube,search your music out,that's part of the game for new and old artist.

Meth is spoiled and wanted a cheat code where everyone knew his lyrics word for word and I don't,never been a fan of his.
There's tricks and tips to draw in new fans and him and Doc could of smoked an el white performing and that alone would of sparked an interest in the fans and went into how high,run some of their classic stuff and it probably would of been a different responce
He's right

It's generational these kids don't appreciate music the same.

Understandable. No need to be in spaces where the crowd is 30 years younger than him.

These young kids don’t know what good songs is anymore. You put Method Man And Redman in a stadium for 40 + you will have a different outcome

^^^^

No need to trash this new genertion taste in music

because our elders did the EXACT SAM E THING to our taste in music.

but I would have hoped Wu Tang could be a potential bridge cause in MY opinion its timeless and is the foundation for all the modern music we hear now in one way or another.

Its also partly his issue with stage presence. At 45+ still just walking back and forth on the stage, in a large facility is boring. His agent should never have put him with that bullshit artist lineup off jump.

I think Hip Hop feels better, sounds better in 2,500 person halls anyway.

I travel the country watching shows and sound men still don't know how to handle the integration of the digital DJ :thumbsdown:clear hip hop vocals and controlled deep and wide bass delivery in large venues.

Redman & Method Man was KILLING SHIT for a sold-out crowd of 30,000 at the Roots Picnic 2024. :yes: Just 2 days ago, on Saturday, June 1.
The same songs they performed at Hot 97 Summer Jam just hit different with an older crowd that appreciates 90s Hip-Hop. :yes:





 
Redman & Method Man was KILLING SHIT for a sold-out crowd of 30,000 at the Roots Picnic 2024. :yes: Just 2 days ago, on Saturday, June 1.
The same songs they performed at Hot 97 Summer Jam just hit different with an older crowd that appreciates 90s Hip-Hop. :yes:






And wutang did the same just few years ago on summer jam
 
you honestly can’t compare todays generation to past generations music wise. It’s painfully obviously worse. There’s zero longevity with these new idiots outside of Drake and a handful. Not to mention please find me something from the 90’s and early 2000’s as bad as this.


That was painful to listen to, I wasn't expecting that.
 
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