anyone have or recommend one? i read this whole page, including the comments.
http://gearjunkie.com/metal-water-bottles
http://gearjunkie.com/metal-water-bottles
metal water bottles / canteens
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keep the water in a camel's bladder.
Can that shit rust on the inside? You don't wanna be drinking rusty water.
http://www.ssina.com/faq/index.html#3
Answer: Stainless does not "rust" as you think of regular steel rusting with a red oxide on the surface that flakes off. If you see red rust it is probably due to some iron particles that have contaminated the surface of the stainless steel and it is these iron particles that are rusting. Look at the source of the rusting and see if you can remove it from the surface. If the iron is embedded in the surface, you can try a solution of 10% nitric and 2% hydrofluoric acid at room temperature or slightly heated. Wash area well with lots and lots of water after use. Commercially available "pickling paste" can also be used. See "The Care and Cleaning of Stainless Steel" for more information.
Always hang your canteen upside down when drying it.
wow, I was just jokin' but, there's actually a camel hydration bladder. 
http://shop.ebay.com/sis.html?_kw=C...amelBak+Camel+Back+hydration+backpack+bladder
http://shop.ebay.com/sis.html?_kw=C...amelBak+Camel+Back+hydration+backpack+bladder
http://www.consumersearch.com/water-bottles/metal-water-bottles
Metal Water Bottles
Stainless-steel vs. aluminum water bottles
The two big names in metal water bottles, Klean Kanteen and Sigg, each use a different material to make their water bottles. Sigg makes their bottles from aluminum, which requires a proprietary liner; Klean Kanteen's bottles are made from food-grade stainless steel, which does not require a liner. Each company totes the benefits of their respective material, and it's clear that stainless steel or aluminum are both better choices than plastics containing BPA.
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Nalgene Water Bottles
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Aluminum Bottles
In the aluminum vs. stainless-steel debate, it appears that both types of water bottles may be good picks in different situations. Environmental Defence, a Canadian-based nonprofit that led the charge against BPA in Canada, recommends glass or stainless-steel drinking bottles for water and lined aluminum bottles for juice or other drinks. Sheryl Eisenberg, an advisor to the U.S.-based Natural Resources Defense Council, recommends food-grade stainless-steel water bottles. Eisenberg is reluctant to recommend Sigg aluminum bottles, since the company refuses to disclose the contents of their proprietary liner.
Beyond health concerns, there are some other considerations. When it comes to portability, there are some benefits to aluminum. Namely, aluminum weighs less than stainless steel, so aluminum water bottles are usually several ounces lighter than their stainless-steel counterparts. This may be important if you carry your bottle on a regular basis. With weight, however, comes durability. Most recent tests we've seen indicate that the stainless-steel Klean Kanteen bottles are more durable than the aluminum Sigg bottles.
Best metal water bottles
We included both the Klean Kanteen and Sigg water bottles in our Best Reviewed section, as it's clear that both bottles have their fans and critics. In our latest round-up of reviews, the water bottles are nearly equal in recommendations. However, there were concerns last year about the contents of Sigg's liner, and the fact that Sigg refused to disclose the contents. The company did release a new liner, called the Sigg EcoCare Liner, in January 2009. The new liner is a baked-on, polymer powder coating that replaces the epoxy resin found in older Sigg water bottles. Many fans see this as a step in the right direction, but Sigg still won't say what's in the new liner -- although they say it has been tested and deemed free of BPA and phthalates. Still, while the liner is probably perfectly safe, critics fault Sigg for lacking transparency. On their website, Sigg maintains that the contents of their liner are confidential.
Even though both Sigg and Klean Kanteen get their fair share of recommendations, in recent head-to-head tests the Klean Kanteen comes out on top more often than not. In a comparative test conducted by Wired, the Klean Kanteen water bottle gets higher marks for style and durability than the Sigg water bottle. After dropping both bottles -- and running each over with a car -- reviewer Adrienne So calls the Klean Kanteen the "toughest we tested." In another test by the Gardenaut blog, the Klean Kanteen gets a "high" rating for durability and a "good" rating for value, while the Sigg bottle gets a "moderate" score for durability and a "fair" rating for value. The Klean Kanteen is also listed as a favorite over the Sigg bottle in a Time magazine test, and a Men's Journal review calls the Klean Kanteen "simple and bulletproof -- a beefier cousin of the Sigg." The Sigg bottle does rate higher than the Klean Kanteen in one older test by Slate.com, where the Klean Kanteen gets knocked for being too heavy. Overall, though, the Klean Kanteen water bottle gets better reviews than the Sigg bottle.
The Klean Kanteen water bottleinfo (*Est. $18 for 27-oz. bottle) is made with 18/8 food-grade stainless steel. It comes in 12-, 18-, 27- and 40-ounce sizes, with your choice of a polypropylene sport, loop or flat cap. If you want to avoid plastic altogether, the loop and flat caps are also available in stainless steel (*Est. $6). The 27-ounce version weighs a little over 6 ounces empty. The Klean Kanteen exterior is brushed stainless steel, although glossy colors (*Est. $20 for 27-oz. bottle) are also available. The water bottles are dishwasher-safe, and the nearly 1.75-inch opening can fit ice cubes. In durability tests, the Klean Kanteen performs very well. It suffers a few dents in drop tests, but it survives being run over by a car in Wired's test. Jeremiah McNichols at the Gardenaut blog says "this water bottle is a tank," and finds that it only suffers minor dents when dropped. A test by The New York Times also finds the Klean Kanteen to be a durable water bottle; the opening gets high marks for allowing ice, but the larger mouth can cause a lot of water to come out at once.
The Klean Kanteen water bottle also gets very high marks in over 600 owner-written reviews on Amazon.com. Most owners say water tastes fresh -- without a metallic taste -- and a tight seal helps prevent leaks. Since the Klean Kanteen is not insulated, the biggest complaint owners have is excessive sweating. If you regularly drink cold beverages or live in a hot climate, reviewers suggest buying an insulation sleeve. Some also report that the sport cap makes an annoying squeaky noise. Overall, most owners are overwhelmingly pleased with the Klean Kanteen. For 2009, Klean Kanteen has introduced a wide-mouth water bottle, the Klean Kanteen Wideinfo (*Est. $20 for 27-oz. bottle) with a 2.125-inch opening. This new version comes in five sizes, with a stainless-steel loop cap.
Sigg water bottlesinfo (*Est. $22 for 20-oz. bottle) come in two main collections, Sigg Lifestyle and Sigg Traveler -- although sport bottles and a kid's series are also available. The Sigg Traveler bottles come in glossy or matte solid colors, while the Lifestyle collection features dozens of designs and colors. As mentioned previously, Sigg water bottles are aluminum with a proprietary liner that is said to be free of BPA. Most Sigg bottles come with the screw top, but, for an additional cost, four other types of tops are available: kids (*Est. $5), sport (*Est. $5), retro flat (*Est. $7) and active (*Est. $7) versions. Sigg water bottles get high marks for design -- reviewers love their splashy graphics and multitude of color options. However, durability seems to be a concern in some reviews. In a Good Housekeeping test, two Sigg Lifestyles bottles perform well on leak and spill tests, but both suffer "serious dents" in drop tests. In Wired's test, a Sigg water bottle withstands freezing and dropping, but not crushing.
Sigg water bottles get excellent ratings at Buzzillions.com and Amazon.com, where reviewers praise the lightweight design, array of color options and lack of a metallic taste. Most owners say Sigg bottles do a great job of keeping water fresh. However, even reviewers who like the Sigg bottles overall acknowledge that they dent easily. One of the biggest complaints about Sigg bottles is that the opening is too narrow to accommodate ice cubes. The narrow opening also makes it harder to clean the interior of the bottle. Sigg water bottles are dishwasher-safe, but they recommend washing by hand. To meet the needs of consumers who want a wider opening, Sigg has launched three wide-mouth water bottlesinfo (*Est. $24 for 1-liter bottle) that can easily accommodate ice cubes. The wide-mouth Sigg bottles come in electric pink, black or silver.
Nalgene has also recently ventured into the metal-water-bottle market with the Nalgene Backpackerinfo (*Est. $19 for 32-oz. bottle). This bottle is also known as the Guyot Backpacker, because it is made by Guyot Designs. The Nalgene Backpacker is made from 18/10 stainless steel, with a wide mouth that can accommodate ice and most filtration systems. In a Good Housekeeping review, testers appreciate the attached lid and large mouth for easy cleaning. However, the Nalgene Backpacker is quite heavy at 12.3 ounces empty, and some testers find the lip too thick to drink from comfortably. The water bottle also dented in their drop test. The Nalgene Backpacker fares better in a test published in The New York Times, where reviewer Eric Linxweiler finds it comfortable to hold and says it's "built like a tank." The Nalgene Backpacker also receives an Editor's Choice award from Outside magazine.
EarthLust is another company producing metal water bottles, although not quite on the scale of Nalgene, Sigg or Klean Kanteen. Their stainless-steel water bottles (*Est. $17 for 20-oz. bottle) are available in 13-, 20- and 33-ounces in various colors and designs. The stainless-steel body is topped with a BPA-free polypropylene cap and a metal carabineer for easy portability. EarthLust bottles are not as ubiquitous as other metal water bottles we've seen, so they attract fewer reviews. The few user reviews on Amazon.com are generally positive, although multiple owners note that the exterior paint flakes off easily. Elizabeth Turner, the editor-in-chief of Vegetarian Times, calls the EarthLust water bottle one of her "personal faves," saying she gets lots of compliments on her small 13-ounce bottle.
All of the metal water bottles mentioned above are single-walled, meaning they will sweat and feel cold or hot to the touch, depending on the liquid you put into it. ThinkSport water bottlesinfo (*Est. $17 for 25-oz. bottle) are double-walled stainless steel with a vacuum seal, so they don't sweat or transmit heat or cold to the exterior. ThinkSport bottles are BPA-free, and are available in 12- or 25-ounce sizes in silver or matte black with an attached screw top. These water bottles also include a removable mesh filter that prevents ice cubes and tea leaves from entering the spout while you're drinking. The ThinkSport water bottle is a top pick in the Gardenaut comparative test, where it scores excellent ratings on durability, value, insulation and design. After four hours in a hot car, the water temperature inside the ThinkSport did not exceed 60 degrees. Among owners on Amazon.com, the ThinkSport gets high marks for keeping water cool; the exterior also doesn't heat up when the bottle is filled with boiling water. However, multiple owners complain about the cap strap getting in the way when drinking from the ThinkSport.
Metal Water Bottles
Stainless-steel vs. aluminum water bottles
The two big names in metal water bottles, Klean Kanteen and Sigg, each use a different material to make their water bottles. Sigg makes their bottles from aluminum, which requires a proprietary liner; Klean Kanteen's bottles are made from food-grade stainless steel, which does not require a liner. Each company totes the benefits of their respective material, and it's clear that stainless steel or aluminum are both better choices than plastics containing BPA.
Related Offers
Metal Drums
Nalgene Water Bottles
Thermos
Aluminum Bottles
In the aluminum vs. stainless-steel debate, it appears that both types of water bottles may be good picks in different situations. Environmental Defence, a Canadian-based nonprofit that led the charge against BPA in Canada, recommends glass or stainless-steel drinking bottles for water and lined aluminum bottles for juice or other drinks. Sheryl Eisenberg, an advisor to the U.S.-based Natural Resources Defense Council, recommends food-grade stainless-steel water bottles. Eisenberg is reluctant to recommend Sigg aluminum bottles, since the company refuses to disclose the contents of their proprietary liner.
Beyond health concerns, there are some other considerations. When it comes to portability, there are some benefits to aluminum. Namely, aluminum weighs less than stainless steel, so aluminum water bottles are usually several ounces lighter than their stainless-steel counterparts. This may be important if you carry your bottle on a regular basis. With weight, however, comes durability. Most recent tests we've seen indicate that the stainless-steel Klean Kanteen bottles are more durable than the aluminum Sigg bottles.
Best metal water bottles
We included both the Klean Kanteen and Sigg water bottles in our Best Reviewed section, as it's clear that both bottles have their fans and critics. In our latest round-up of reviews, the water bottles are nearly equal in recommendations. However, there were concerns last year about the contents of Sigg's liner, and the fact that Sigg refused to disclose the contents. The company did release a new liner, called the Sigg EcoCare Liner, in January 2009. The new liner is a baked-on, polymer powder coating that replaces the epoxy resin found in older Sigg water bottles. Many fans see this as a step in the right direction, but Sigg still won't say what's in the new liner -- although they say it has been tested and deemed free of BPA and phthalates. Still, while the liner is probably perfectly safe, critics fault Sigg for lacking transparency. On their website, Sigg maintains that the contents of their liner are confidential.
Even though both Sigg and Klean Kanteen get their fair share of recommendations, in recent head-to-head tests the Klean Kanteen comes out on top more often than not. In a comparative test conducted by Wired, the Klean Kanteen water bottle gets higher marks for style and durability than the Sigg water bottle. After dropping both bottles -- and running each over with a car -- reviewer Adrienne So calls the Klean Kanteen the "toughest we tested." In another test by the Gardenaut blog, the Klean Kanteen gets a "high" rating for durability and a "good" rating for value, while the Sigg bottle gets a "moderate" score for durability and a "fair" rating for value. The Klean Kanteen is also listed as a favorite over the Sigg bottle in a Time magazine test, and a Men's Journal review calls the Klean Kanteen "simple and bulletproof -- a beefier cousin of the Sigg." The Sigg bottle does rate higher than the Klean Kanteen in one older test by Slate.com, where the Klean Kanteen gets knocked for being too heavy. Overall, though, the Klean Kanteen water bottle gets better reviews than the Sigg bottle.
The Klean Kanteen water bottleinfo (*Est. $18 for 27-oz. bottle) is made with 18/8 food-grade stainless steel. It comes in 12-, 18-, 27- and 40-ounce sizes, with your choice of a polypropylene sport, loop or flat cap. If you want to avoid plastic altogether, the loop and flat caps are also available in stainless steel (*Est. $6). The 27-ounce version weighs a little over 6 ounces empty. The Klean Kanteen exterior is brushed stainless steel, although glossy colors (*Est. $20 for 27-oz. bottle) are also available. The water bottles are dishwasher-safe, and the nearly 1.75-inch opening can fit ice cubes. In durability tests, the Klean Kanteen performs very well. It suffers a few dents in drop tests, but it survives being run over by a car in Wired's test. Jeremiah McNichols at the Gardenaut blog says "this water bottle is a tank," and finds that it only suffers minor dents when dropped. A test by The New York Times also finds the Klean Kanteen to be a durable water bottle; the opening gets high marks for allowing ice, but the larger mouth can cause a lot of water to come out at once.
The Klean Kanteen water bottle also gets very high marks in over 600 owner-written reviews on Amazon.com. Most owners say water tastes fresh -- without a metallic taste -- and a tight seal helps prevent leaks. Since the Klean Kanteen is not insulated, the biggest complaint owners have is excessive sweating. If you regularly drink cold beverages or live in a hot climate, reviewers suggest buying an insulation sleeve. Some also report that the sport cap makes an annoying squeaky noise. Overall, most owners are overwhelmingly pleased with the Klean Kanteen. For 2009, Klean Kanteen has introduced a wide-mouth water bottle, the Klean Kanteen Wideinfo (*Est. $20 for 27-oz. bottle) with a 2.125-inch opening. This new version comes in five sizes, with a stainless-steel loop cap.
Sigg water bottlesinfo (*Est. $22 for 20-oz. bottle) come in two main collections, Sigg Lifestyle and Sigg Traveler -- although sport bottles and a kid's series are also available. The Sigg Traveler bottles come in glossy or matte solid colors, while the Lifestyle collection features dozens of designs and colors. As mentioned previously, Sigg water bottles are aluminum with a proprietary liner that is said to be free of BPA. Most Sigg bottles come with the screw top, but, for an additional cost, four other types of tops are available: kids (*Est. $5), sport (*Est. $5), retro flat (*Est. $7) and active (*Est. $7) versions. Sigg water bottles get high marks for design -- reviewers love their splashy graphics and multitude of color options. However, durability seems to be a concern in some reviews. In a Good Housekeeping test, two Sigg Lifestyles bottles perform well on leak and spill tests, but both suffer "serious dents" in drop tests. In Wired's test, a Sigg water bottle withstands freezing and dropping, but not crushing.
Sigg water bottles get excellent ratings at Buzzillions.com and Amazon.com, where reviewers praise the lightweight design, array of color options and lack of a metallic taste. Most owners say Sigg bottles do a great job of keeping water fresh. However, even reviewers who like the Sigg bottles overall acknowledge that they dent easily. One of the biggest complaints about Sigg bottles is that the opening is too narrow to accommodate ice cubes. The narrow opening also makes it harder to clean the interior of the bottle. Sigg water bottles are dishwasher-safe, but they recommend washing by hand. To meet the needs of consumers who want a wider opening, Sigg has launched three wide-mouth water bottlesinfo (*Est. $24 for 1-liter bottle) that can easily accommodate ice cubes. The wide-mouth Sigg bottles come in electric pink, black or silver.
Nalgene has also recently ventured into the metal-water-bottle market with the Nalgene Backpackerinfo (*Est. $19 for 32-oz. bottle). This bottle is also known as the Guyot Backpacker, because it is made by Guyot Designs. The Nalgene Backpacker is made from 18/10 stainless steel, with a wide mouth that can accommodate ice and most filtration systems. In a Good Housekeeping review, testers appreciate the attached lid and large mouth for easy cleaning. However, the Nalgene Backpacker is quite heavy at 12.3 ounces empty, and some testers find the lip too thick to drink from comfortably. The water bottle also dented in their drop test. The Nalgene Backpacker fares better in a test published in The New York Times, where reviewer Eric Linxweiler finds it comfortable to hold and says it's "built like a tank." The Nalgene Backpacker also receives an Editor's Choice award from Outside magazine.
EarthLust is another company producing metal water bottles, although not quite on the scale of Nalgene, Sigg or Klean Kanteen. Their stainless-steel water bottles (*Est. $17 for 20-oz. bottle) are available in 13-, 20- and 33-ounces in various colors and designs. The stainless-steel body is topped with a BPA-free polypropylene cap and a metal carabineer for easy portability. EarthLust bottles are not as ubiquitous as other metal water bottles we've seen, so they attract fewer reviews. The few user reviews on Amazon.com are generally positive, although multiple owners note that the exterior paint flakes off easily. Elizabeth Turner, the editor-in-chief of Vegetarian Times, calls the EarthLust water bottle one of her "personal faves," saying she gets lots of compliments on her small 13-ounce bottle.
All of the metal water bottles mentioned above are single-walled, meaning they will sweat and feel cold or hot to the touch, depending on the liquid you put into it. ThinkSport water bottlesinfo (*Est. $17 for 25-oz. bottle) are double-walled stainless steel with a vacuum seal, so they don't sweat or transmit heat or cold to the exterior. ThinkSport bottles are BPA-free, and are available in 12- or 25-ounce sizes in silver or matte black with an attached screw top. These water bottles also include a removable mesh filter that prevents ice cubes and tea leaves from entering the spout while you're drinking. The ThinkSport water bottle is a top pick in the Gardenaut comparative test, where it scores excellent ratings on durability, value, insulation and design. After four hours in a hot car, the water temperature inside the ThinkSport did not exceed 60 degrees. Among owners on Amazon.com, the ThinkSport gets high marks for keeping water cool; the exterior also doesn't heat up when the bottle is filled with boiling water. However, multiple owners complain about the cap strap getting in the way when drinking from the ThinkSport.
picked up the Thinksport water canteen.
thinking about picking up a ZeroWater pitcher but the fucking filters die within 2 weeks. not cost effective.
http://www.buzzillions.com/dz_712544_zero_water_z_pitcher_1ea_reviews#bz-model-reviewTitle
thinking about picking up a ZeroWater pitcher but the fucking filters die within 2 weeks. not cost effective.
http://www.buzzillions.com/dz_712544_zero_water_z_pitcher_1ea_reviews#bz-model-reviewTitle
