Damn near all flop. The music industry is only good for laundering Dope money, but I’ve said too much....
MEGAN THE STALLION SUING HER LABEL
- Thread starter dagoon121
- Start date
Damn meg lied 
BILLBOARD - On Monday afternoon (March 2), a Texas federal judge granted rapper Megan Thee Stallion (real name: Megan Pete) a temporary restraining order against her label 1501 Certified Entertainment and its CEO, former Major League Baseball star, Carl Crawford. The judge ordered 1501 Entertainment “to do nothing to prevent the release, distribution, and sale of Pete’s new records,” along with forbidding any interference with her or her career over social media or through her collaborators or associates.
The TRO comes after Megan went on Instagram Live on Sunday (March 1), claiming that 1501 was prohibiting her from releasing any new music. In her lawsuit, Megan looks to void her 360 recording contract with 1501, deeming it "unconscionable" for a variety of reasons. First, she alleges that she's only been paid $15,000 from the label after earning more than a billion streams and selling over 300,000 individual track downloads, which equates to an estimated $7 million. Secondly, after teaming up with Roc Nation via a management deal last year, she claims to have been "attacked and threatened on social media," by Crawford and members of his label.
In an interview with Billboard, Crawford denies any claims of him or his 1501 label trying to prevent Megan's output of music. "It's a whole lie," says Crawford. "Nothing is true that she said. Me being greedy and taking money from her, that's crazy. I never tried to take nothing from her. The only thing we ever did was give, give, give."
According to Crawford, after Megan signed to Roc Nation in September, she went radio silent, opting not to pay him or 1501 any of the money she owed. In Crawford's eyes, the "Hot Girl Summer" MC's tactics were to avoid paying him for merchandise and live touring proceeds owed to him through the terms of their deal, so that he would renegotiate her four-album deal contract that she initially signed with 1501. (Megan also signed a separate distribution deal with 300 Entertainment in 2019.)
"Let's talk about your contract. It's a great contract for a first-timer," he offers. "What contract gives parts of their masters and 40% royalties and all that kind of stuff? Ask Jay-Z to pull one of his artists' first contracts, and let's compare it to what Megan got... I guarantee they won't ever show you that."
Billboard spoke to Crawford about Megan's allegations, why he thinks Jay-Z and Roc Nation are trying to "stronghold" his company, and what he hopes to gain back from this pending lawsuit.
What was your initial reaction with Megan going on Instagram Live and accusing your label of preventing her from dropping new music?
My initial reaction was, "Man, I can't believe this is serious." She just has so many holes in her story, and it's almost on some delusional type stuff. The bubble of Hollywood and her eight million followers has really clouded her head, because the stuff that she's saying is not true. It's a whole lie. Nothing is true that she said. Me being greedy and taking money from her, that's crazy. I never tried to take nothing from her. The only thing we ever did was give, give, give. Now, she fell for the oldest trick in the industry: the conquer and divide theme.
Everybody in the industry knows this is what Jay-Z and Roc Nation do: They come in, the find the smallest things wrong with the problem -- because there weren't any problems before she left -- and then she says that I didn't want to negotiate? Ok, tell everybody your definition of negotiating. Your definition is, "OK. I'm going to send Suge Knight's old lawyers to come in, and it's a stick-up...'" Of course, I'm like, "This isn't a negotiation. This is a robbery."
They want to make it look like I'm greedy? No, they're trying to keep me out of everything. She keeps saying, 'Them n---as over there negotiated my contract.' Them n---as are sitting right next to her. T. Farris is the one. Her mom did the contract. I'm new to the business. I let this guy T. Farris run my whole business, because I knew absolutely nothing about it. Zero. So he wrote your contract up. I didn't do it.
They want to make a big deal about it. We signed a deal. Honor your contract and let's just keep doing business how we been doing and everything is fine. Nobody is trying to rob you.
When Megan announced her management deal with Roc Nation, from my understanding, you found out of the news the same time as everyone else, correct?
The guy T. Farris -- the one who was helping me with my business -- he was handling Megan for me. She's a girl, so he was used to being a road manager. I was letting him handle all the business, and he said, 'We're going to Roc Nation. We got a meeting.' I said, 'Oh cool. We gon' get to meet Jay-Z.' I'm actually excited because I get to go meet Jay-Z myself. You know, we looked up to this man.
I said, "What's going on?" He said, "Ain't no big deal. He just finna show us around the building. Little small s--t." I'm like, "Cool. Do I need to be there?" He was like, "Nah. You know it ain't that serious." I said, "Well, OK. Cool." I don't go because we were just on tour with her. Me and Megan are perfectly fine at this moment. Next thing you know, I'm on a plane and I'm thinking the whole industry is going to try to take Megan from me, not my homeboy.
So I go and link up with J. [Prince, Rap-A-Lot CEO]. Next thing you know, the picture is posted up on the Internet and everybody is like, "Oh, you bitter"' No, I was already posting J [Prince] before. When I found out like everybody else, I got emotional and made one comment. They took that and ran with it like, "Oh, he's bitter, he's mad'" Look, I'm just trying to see what's up. I thought they had enough respect for me to at least tell me something. But it's cool. She don't have to tell me about that. That's fine.
But at the end of the day, tell them what their real plan was. Their real plan was to get you out of my contract so they can sign you to Roc Nation. That's all they want to do. We gave this girl a 60-40 split. Now go ask the artist about that. She got parts of her masters [the] first time. You think Jay-Z would have gave her part of her masters on her first deal with Roc Nation? F--k no. Then, she's getting $100,000 a show and she don't want to pay up. That's what the issue was about. She signed with Roc Nation in August and decided she didn't wanna pay me no more.
They're using that as a strong-arm tactic so that I can renegotiate the contract. They're holding the money, and they haven't paid me since August. She done over 15 shows. Y'all do the math. She gets $100,000 a show. She owe me, and I haven't recouped almost $2 million that we spent on her, building her up so that Roc Nation would wanna come [around]. Where was Roc Nation at when we was grinding and riding around on them backstreets? Roc Nation was nowhere to be found.
Soon as we spent our money, blow it up, now all of a sudden, these strangers and people you just met -- they introduce you to Beyoncé and now we the devil? We were just the angels sent from the sky. Now, we're the devil just because Jay-Z saved you. You're so fake.
On her Instagram Live, she repeatedly explained how she viewed her relationship with 1501 as "family." You're also speaking on that family bond that you once shared with her. Where did that dynamic get lost in the midst of everything?
Everything was cool until her lawyers came in and told me that it was pretty much a stick-up. Unfortunately, when her mother died, the snake was able to come in and crawl in position to influence her head and tell her stuff. If her mother would have been here, we wouldn't even be going through none of this stuff. Once her mother died, things changed a little bit. Everybody that wanted in, all the bloodsuckers were able to jump in. That's what happened.
She got the dude [T. Farris] right up under her. He's the snake. He did the contract. They had the lawyers. How didn't you read your contract? She signed two contacts. You signed one with me and 300 [Entertainment]. You mean to tell me, you, your mama and your lawyer didn't read over that stuff every time? Stop lying. You wasn't 20, you were 23 years old. You was a grown up. You're just a liar.
She got 8 million followers that know they can pounce on me because I'm smaller. She know she gon' win when it comes to that sh-t right there, but I don't care about that. They can thrash me or whatever they do, but the real is you got Hollywood and you got up under Roc Nation and you're acting like you don't have to honor you contract no more. Then, you want to say you tried to negotiate? Man, you sent your lawyers in there and they want to take me out. She owe me four albums and they want to offer me one album and take everything away? They're crazy.
What about her claiming that she's only been paid $15,000 by the label?
How she been paid $15,000? As soon as we signed to 300, I wrote her a check for $50,000, and it's signed with her name on the check. We can show you the proof. That's another thing -- I got all my receipts. They know it. I got all the receipts. We gave her a $10,000 advance when we first signed her and gave it to her mother. I don't know what happened [with that]. 300 gave us a $200,000 check when we first signed. I gave her $50,000 of it. I didn't have to give her that. That was mine at the time.
And we never told her "no" a day in our lives. She just got on some real hating s--t or whatever and just didn't want me around. How can I be mean to you? I never was around you. I didn't do nothing. You barely saw me.
She's also claiming that there was a producer associated with the label that threatened physical harm to her, along with a lot of social media attacks being aimed at her from your side.
I don't even know about that. I don't even know about social media, because I'm getting threats. They're threatening me, my kids, everybody. So look, that kind of just come with it. I don't know what producer could be threatening her.
She just lie so much. She tried to say we didn't do nothing for her? Well I got $500,000-$800,000 worth of receipts that show we did do something for her. So I don't know what T. Farris is over there telling you or if he did everything because he takes the credit. She likes to give T. Farris the credit about discovering her.
She so f--king blind by it that she's trying to make it seem like I'm a bad person. Listen, all she has to do is pay me my money. That's all I want. I don't want to be around her. I don't want nothing going on. I just want what's mine.
Let's run through the numbers that Megan is claiming in her lawsuit against 1501. She says that 1501 gets 60% of her recording income.
Right, and she gets the 40%.
But she's claiming that chunks of the 40% is being given to third party people like producers, mixers, featured artists, etc. Is that true?
Nah, I don't think that's true either... It's a great deal. She wants to talk about a bad deal -- she's disrespecting her mother by saying that, because her mother and T. Farris are the ones who did it. Those two worked out the deal with the lawyer. I didn't even have nothing to do with it.
And you guys supposedly get 30% of all her touring money and 30% of all her merch, as well?
Well, we did a 360 deal where it was a 70-30. The reason why it was a 70-30 was because we gave up so much. We gave up part of her masters right now, we gave her a 60-40 split. That's why we got so much on that side. We knew we did some stuff that people don't do.
This is how I was getting in the business. This is how I got her to sign with us -- because I wanted to make sure we overdo it, that way we can get her. So she got a great deal. She's just over there with Roc Nation, and she's mad because somebody said something bad about her one time. She acting like people can't speak their truth -- like she's the only one that have a truth. If you watch her in her interviews, she looks like a little kid that's just being silly. It's like she's not even taking it serious. Look at it. Everybody knows. She looks so silly telling everybody I didn't do nothing here in Houston, TX when we sat here and watched it from day one. She's such a fraud.
The rest of the world can get mad at me, but they're not in Houston. They don't know how it started. They just call me bitter, but put it this way to your little 8 million followers that don't give a f--k about me anyway, if somebody comes and tries to take your s--t, you gonna fight back too. It wasn't no renegotiation, it was take this or else. That's why the beef started.
When's the last time you spoke to Megan? Secondly, do you feel like this relationship can be salvaged outside of court, especially since you and her both lean on the word family and how you initially valued each other?
I don't know at this point, because it's so bad. I don't know what can happen. Right now, I'm just trying to make sure that fair is fair. I just want it to be fair. Nobody wanted to stop her music. I understand that, but she's ignored me since August. I haven't spoke to her since August, and this is what's going on. She hasn't tried to do nothing. She hasn't made one payment since August. You do the math and see how many months that is and add it up. Anybody would be pissed off.
You owe me money that I recouped, and you owe me show money. You owe me d--n near $2 million. You d--n near in the hole for $2 million, and you want to just get up out of it because Roc Nation told you you could. That's how it is, and she's just young and doesn't know the business and how you're supposed to honor contracts. They wanna take advantage of me because I'm new to the business and don't know nothing. This is what Roc Nation do. They harp on the weak.
I guarantee you if I didn't have J. Prince right now, I wouldn't even be able to talk to you, bro. Roc Nation would have already took this s--t. This s--t would have already been took from me. All my hard work would have went down the drain. I'm here to fight this.
Meg got a 40/60 split for record sales, which includes royalties and her masters. 70/30 split for touring. Then he actually gave her $60k upfront plus other gifts. Her moms and a lawyer agreed to that contract.
He said he hasn't recouped
Last edited:
He ain't no slimey ass knicca...I dam sho ain't rooting for no hoix..brah
for every song and artist puts on an album there's three more that don't make it. It's pretty likely that Megan already has five albums worth of material in the can.
Problem is, most labels hold a right of refusal over the artist head. if they don't like her work they can reject it and send her back to the studio until she gets it to their liking.
Miles Davis was able to get out of his contract with Prestige that way. He recorded and released two albums in a single weekend.
Megan Thee Stalion ain't Miles Davis though
And don't sign checks that Her punk ass can't cash...Fuck this wanch..brah
Do you know him personally?
Just fulfill the contract and move on.
Hot girl spring
Hot girl fall
Hot girl winter
Hot girl mom
Mashed potato hot girl
Hot girl forever.
How could they tell?
Ain't none of that shit good. These lil niggas care more for the "vibe" than the actual quality. Plus her having them involved will qualify any bullshit she puts out.
How?
She's everywhere and she signed a 360.
He charged her for everything out of her 40%.
Streams, merch, and show dough alone should be closing that gap...
How is he fucking her over, and still not making money? Nigga is just trash!
She has a really good deal ... your fav artist on album 3 or 5 doesnt have it as good as meg
shiiiit Drake should have a seance and get meg's mother to negotiate his next label contract
thats the best contract ever for an artist that hasn't delivered or sold one album yet
she has no grounds for renegotiation
she lied or is was repeating what she is being told
1501 gets paid off her music loooong before she does - recoupment-
it would be dumb as hell for 1501 to shelve her
and if a label really wanted to shelve an artist - a restraining order could not even happen
Warner Atlantic 300 eat first off sales n streams
then 1501
Last edited:
I need to see receipts...I been round enough hoes to know...when the "mirlk"..ain't clean...brah
She has a really good deal ... your fav artist on album 3 or 5 doesnt have it as good as meg
shiiiit Drake should have a seance and get meg's mother to negotiate his next label contract
thats the best contract ever for an artist that hasn't delivered or sold one album yet
she has no grounds for renegotiation
she lied or is was repeating what she is being told
1501 gets paid off her music loooong before she does - recoupment-
it would be dumb as hell for 1501 to shelve her
and if a label really wanted to shelve an artist - a restraining order could not even happen
[QUOTE="dagoon121, post: 20727390, member: 27458"
He said he hasn't recouped
Warner Atlantic 300 eat first off sales n streams
then 1501
[/QUOTE]
I was being nice lol
cause she hasn't even done ANYTHING yet
it doesnt work like that
on sales / streams Warner Atlantic and 300 get paid x% before 1501 gets paid
and 1501 only gets paid when Warner et al cut a check
he only gets the show money and merch when RocNation cuts a check and they haven't been paying him thats why he is suing her now
Man a contract is 10’pages or more. The court will reveal what it really is. Part of masters could be .00008%. Like jay owned part of the nets. .4%
In those terms, she needs to play out her “Rookie” deal first....
in those terms, she ain’t even play a game yet!!
Twitter never forgets......lol.
And got dammit... this is all...when I first went into business...I was signing my life away ery'day...I learned...and got taught by the best of em..Dennis Sweet, and his buddies..got me on a few Fucked up..one sided deals...but these days..I'm unbreakable..I followed through on all those bad deals...whole Hotels, and Apartment complexes..I did for pennies...but now I'm BIG OL BOSS...I hope she know...JaY Z and Dem...gonna fuck her 2..brah
Lyor Cohen/300 aint shit. Probably had something to do with T Grizzly's manager/aunt getting murdered.
T wasn't anywhere in the line of fire (on the porch) yet his aunt in the car gets killed. They put the word out it, was a hit on T. Tee was no where near that woman and she enda up dead when she has no personal beefs. Thats how shady these dudes are.
Carl better watch it, because these Vampires like Jay and Lyor will have you killed if they cant get the artist under their terms. Lyor probably hd Jobina murdered to get Tee from up under the contract Tee signed with her.
I hope the Feds read this shit and go after those murdering assholes. Carl watch your back, because these dudes will play real dirty if they dont get what they want.
T wasn't anywhere in the line of fire (on the porch) yet his aunt in the car gets killed. They put the word out it, was a hit on T. Tee was no where near that woman and she enda up dead when she has no personal beefs. Thats how shady these dudes are.
Carl better watch it, because these Vampires like Jay and Lyor will have you killed if they cant get the artist under their terms. Lyor probably hd Jobina murdered to get Tee from up under the contract Tee signed with her.
I hope the Feds read this shit and go after those murdering assholes. Carl watch your back, because these dudes will play real dirty if they dont get what they want.
It's the way of the world...I'm totally with the shit...these new little whores so grimey..brah
Shit....Double C..got the biggest goons in rap.. backing him up...them Big City Boys don't want them Houston 5th ward kniccas..Jay prince and Dem...Baby and Slim..stood down and bent the knee....every other Goon in the Houston Mafia, waking up...you gotta understand..Jay prince backed DOUBLE C..Since his birth.. he's a son to Jay Prince...Little jay..don't want beef with the whole city... shit will be just like the 90s Biggie and PAC..wars...some PEOPLE..WILL die..if they fuck with homie..brah
I’m not sure if she has a bad contract or not, many on this board know the ins and outs of the music business better than myself.
What I do know is, artists sign these deals and once they get some shine or get on top. Then they shit on the ones that got them there wanting all new everything because those who got them there are “Small Time” now.
Jay z and RocNation look real shiny, new and powerful to them and they want to be under that umbrella. Meanwhile if it wasn’t for the small time label or investorwe would’ve never heard from that artist.
That 70/30 tour money sounds kinda shaky and there’s No Way I’d sign that! How am I doing the performing and I’m getting 30%?
What I do know is, artists sign these deals and once they get some shine or get on top. Then they shit on the ones that got them there wanting all new everything because those who got them there are “Small Time” now.
Jay z and RocNation look real shiny, new and powerful to them and they want to be under that umbrella. Meanwhile if it wasn’t for the small time label or investorwe would’ve never heard from that artist.
That 70/30 tour money sounds kinda shaky and there’s No Way I’d sign that! How am I doing the performing and I’m getting 30%?
I’m not sure if she has a bad contract or not, many on this board know the ins and outs of the music business better than myself.
What I do know is, artists sign these deals and once they get some shine or get on top. Then they shit on the ones that got them there wanting all new everything because those who got them there are “Small Time” now.
Jay z and RocNation look real shiny, new and powerful to them and they want to be under that umbrella. Meanwhile if it wasn’t for the small time label or investorwe would’ve never heard from that artist.
That 70/30 tour money sounds kinda shaky and there’s No Way I’d sign that! How am I doing the performing and I’m getting 30%?
Dumb bitch..saw Louis Vuitton money and a pair of redbotttoms..on that first DRAW... Bitch got blinded by the "shiny thangs"...is what happened.. brah
Agreed
Similar threads
