Mayweather to Pacquiao: "I hold all the cards [...bitch...]"

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<header id="yui_3_9_1_1_1389623780823_366" class="header"> Has Floyd Mayweather Defeated Manny Pacquiao Without Ever Having Fought Him?

</header> <cite class="byline vcard top-line"> By Paul Magno <abbr>January 8, 2014 10:29 AM</abbr> </cite>












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COMMENTARY | The world's best boxer is Floyd Mayweather. Boxing's biggest money fighter is Floyd Mayweather. These are two statements that even the most rabid of Mayweather critics can't deny. One has been decided by the collective wisdom of the boxing media via pound for pound status, the other is based on actual sales numbers. If there was ever anything akin to absolute truth in the chaotic world of big-time boxing, those two statements would make the cut as 100% factual.
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Mayweather, basking in the glow of his undisputed dominance and king status, has decided to wield his power with an iron fist, at least when it comes to Manny Pacquiao.
The five-division world champ, who is currently in the process of selecting his next opponent for a scheduled May 3 date, has made it clear that his Filipino arch-nemesis is not in the running and, as a matter of fact, is no longer even worthy of consideration.
"When he had his opportunity and he had his chance, I guess he was tooting his own horn and he felt like he was on the same level as me," Mayweather recently told Ben Thompson of Fighthype.com. "So when I offered you $40 million, you turned it down. I offered Manny Pacquiao $40 million and he said he wanted 50/50. So now, you took two back-to-back losses, and from what I hear, I don't know for a fact, but from what I hear, you got tax problems and now you're begging to get the fight. You could care less if you win; all you want to do is fight Floyd Mayweather to clean up a tax bill basically...so now, who is he chasing?
"I don't knock him for doing it, but all the cards are in my hand....Let's talk facts! Pacquiao got pay-per-view number problems. Pacquiao's boss name is Rob Arum. Pacquiao owes $68 million in taxes. Pacquiao's got 5 losses. He still got Timothy Bradley problems and Marquez problems...So this guy's got all these problems and he wants Floyd Mayweather to solve them for him, huh? First he didn't need me; now he needs me. He's willing to do anything now after his career done took a major setback."
It's clear that Mayweather, for a very long time now, has had a major problem with sharing top billing with Pacquiao as boxing's biggest star. Now, at a time when Mayweather has clearly established his status as boxing top dog/cash cow, the current welterweight and junior middleweight world titlist is acting the part of an angry, spiteful king.
What Mayweather needs to realize, though, is that his lashing out at Team Pacquiao is also keeping fans from getting the fight they have been demanding for the better part of four years. His efforts to push Manny Pacquiao into a subservient position may have killed the last glimmer of hope for the mega-fight. This recent media attack from Mayweather reinforces his role as the unyielding king and sets the bar for a Pacquiao bout so high that it just may be impossible for Manny to ever negotiate on even terms with him.
According to Mayweather, Pacquiao's checklist for mega-bout qualification now includes revenge victories over Timothy Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez, a willingness to take a lesser share of the financial pie, and, perhaps most important, a decision to sever all business ties with current promoter Bob Arum.
Mayweather, an ex-Arum fighter, has gone especially public with his disdain for Arum in recent months and has made it clear that he will never do business with his former promoter again. Arum, despite making similar statements against Mayweather and advisor Al Haymon in the past, now says that he's fine with Mayweather and actually has a good relationship with him.
But is any of this talk of Pacquiao jumping through hoops even necessary? Mayweather may have already defeated Pacquiao without ever having shared the same ring.
Respected by the experts, rich beyond belief, and riding a wave of unprecedented good fortune, Mayweather has become no. 1 without ever fighting the no. 2. And now, with the no. 2 pushed down to no. 5 or 6, a case could be made that Mayweather has already won the war.
Yes, Pacquiao is and will remain the obvious opponent for Mayweather. But is the gap between the two now wide enough so that some deep, deep concessions have to be made by Team Pacquiao before being granted a chance to negotiate? And if the gap between the two really is that wide, how can the case be made that Mayweather must fight him or face any consequences?
The fact may be that Mayweather has, indeed, defeated Pacquiao without ever having landed a punch. It's not a popular statement to make, and certainly not one conducive to making Mayweather-Pacquiao, but it's a sure thing that Mayweather truly believes it.
 
<header id="yui_3_9_1_1_1389623780823_366" class="header"> Has Floyd Mayweather Defeated Manny Pacquiao Without Ever Having Fought Him?

</header> <cite class="byline vcard top-line"> By Paul Magno <abbr>January 8, 2014 10:29 AM</abbr> </cite>












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COMMENTARY | The world's best boxer is Floyd Mayweather. Boxing's biggest money fighter is Floyd Mayweather. These are two statements that even the most rabid of Mayweather critics can't deny. One has been decided by the collective wisdom of the boxing media via pound for pound status, the other is based on actual sales numbers. If there was ever anything akin to absolute truth in the chaotic world of big-time boxing, those two statements would make the cut as 100% factual.
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Mayweather, basking in the glow of his undisputed dominance and king status, has decided to wield his power with an iron fist, at least when it comes to Manny Pacquiao.
The five-division world champ, who is currently in the process of selecting his next opponent for a scheduled May 3 date, has made it clear that his Filipino arch-nemesis is not in the running and, as a matter of fact, is no longer even worthy of consideration.
"When he had his opportunity and he had his chance, I guess he was tooting his own horn and he felt like he was on the same level as me," Mayweather recently told Ben Thompson of Fighthype.com. "So when I offered you $40 million, you turned it down. I offered Manny Pacquiao $40 million and he said he wanted 50/50. So now, you took two back-to-back losses, and from what I hear, I don't know for a fact, but from what I hear, you got tax problems and now you're begging to get the fight. You could care less if you win; all you want to do is fight Floyd Mayweather to clean up a tax bill basically...so now, who is he chasing?
"I don't knock him for doing it, but all the cards are in my hand....Let's talk facts! Pacquiao got pay-per-view number problems. Pacquiao's boss name is Rob Arum. Pacquiao owes $68 million in taxes. Pacquiao's got 5 losses. He still got Timothy Bradley problems and Marquez problems...So this guy's got all these problems and he wants Floyd Mayweather to solve them for him, huh? First he didn't need me; now he needs me. He's willing to do anything now after his career done took a major setback."
It's clear that Mayweather, for a very long time now, has had a major problem with sharing top billing with Pacquiao as boxing's biggest star. Now, at a time when Mayweather has clearly established his status as boxing top dog/cash cow, the current welterweight and junior middleweight world titlist is acting the part of an angry, spiteful king.
What Mayweather needs to realize, though, is that his lashing out at Team Pacquiao is also keeping fans from getting the fight they have been demanding for the better part of four years. His efforts to push Manny Pacquiao into a subservient position may have killed the last glimmer of hope for the mega-fight. This recent media attack from Mayweather reinforces his role as the unyielding king and sets the bar for a Pacquiao bout so high that it just may be impossible for Manny to ever negotiate on even terms with him.
According to Mayweather, Pacquiao's checklist for mega-bout qualification now includes revenge victories over Timothy Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez, a willingness to take a lesser share of the financial pie, and, perhaps most important, a decision to sever all business ties with current promoter Bob Arum.
Mayweather, an ex-Arum fighter, has gone especially public with his disdain for Arum in recent months and has made it clear that he will never do business with his former promoter again. Arum, despite making similar statements against Mayweather and advisor Al Haymon in the past, now says that he's fine with Mayweather and actually has a good relationship with him.
But is any of this talk of Pacquiao jumping through hoops even necessary? Mayweather may have already defeated Pacquiao without ever having shared the same ring.
Respected by the experts, rich beyond belief, and riding a wave of unprecedented good fortune, Mayweather has become no. 1 without ever fighting the no. 2. And now, with the no. 2 pushed down to no. 5 or 6, a case could be made that Mayweather has already won the war.
Yes, Pacquiao is and will remain the obvious opponent for Mayweather. But is the gap between the two now wide enough so that some deep, deep concessions have to be made by Team Pacquiao before being granted a chance to negotiate? And if the gap between the two really is that wide, how can the case be made that Mayweather must fight him or face any consequences?
The fact may be that Mayweather has, indeed, defeated Pacquiao without ever having landed a punch. It's not a popular statement to make, and certainly not one conducive to making Mayweather-Pacquiao, but it's a sure thing that Mayweather truly believes it.


people hate to hear this. They don't understand that the game has always been about what goes on outside the ring too, especially when you haven't lost in the ring to all the people they hoped would beat you:lol::lol::lol:
 
To the comments in red...

...Nas had this diss track .... forgot what it was called...
 
I doubt either is scared of the other...all I'm saying is the Mayweather vs Cotto agreement confirmed Arum involvement...
 
So now, you took two back-to-back losses,


seriously...is there people out there that really wanna see this fight made...

b real...:confused:
 
Yep that's why it haven't happen, Arum and Mayweather wanting to dictated to the other what's going to happen. The two sides have agreed in the past(Marquez is a Top Rank fighter...I think) but there's more chips on table.
 
man these threads are getting to be like the concept of the fight... old, outdated and not worth the attention. No offense to the OP but EVERY Mayweather or Pacquiao thread has ALL the same people saying the SAME shit. :smh:
 
man these threads are getting to be like the concept of the fight... old, outdated and not worth the attention. No offense to the OP but EVERY Mayweather or Pacquiao thread has ALL the same people saying the SAME shit. :smh:
If you have something new and more illuminating to say
on the matter, why don't you say it? If you have nothing
more to contribute, other than to bitch about what we
enjoy discussing, why should we listen to you? Why don't
we have the right to discuss what we like?
 
seriously...is there people out there that really wanna see this fight made...

b real...:confused:

I really wanted to 4 years ago. Now i could give a fuck less. Its real surprising to me how people get hyped about these two talking shit to each other and never stepping in the ring to face one another. Im over it now.
 
If you have something new and more illuminating to say
on the matter, why don't you say it? If you have nothing
more to contribute, other than to bitch about what we
enjoy discussing, why should we listen to you? Why don't
we have the right to discuss what we like?

All Im saying is... Say something new. I read all of these threads and its obvious that cats are caping on both sides. We all know this fight aint gonna happen.

Not knockin you or the thread., Dont take it personally. The board has beat this horse to death on multiple occasions
 
All Im saying is... Say something new. I read all of these threads and its obvious that cats are caping on both sides. We all know this fight aint gonna happen.

Not knockin you or the thread., Dont take it personally. The board has beat this horse to death on multiple occasions

Why do I have to say something to please you?
Why don't you say whatever it is you want said?
why do you think I have an obligation to entertain
you?
 
honestly......i could care less about the fight now....i just wanna see Manny suffer
all that arrogance in the beginning is costing him dearly now
:lol::lol::lol:
 
honestly......i could care less about the fight now....i just wanna see Manny suffer
all that arrogance in the beginning is costing him dearly now
:lol::lol::lol:

Yea, I feel pretty much the same. I wanted the fight to happen some years back, but not now. There's too many other potential big fights looming to care about a washed up Manny goading Floyd into a fight.
 
man these threads are getting to be like the concept of the fight... old, outdated and not worth the attention. No offense to the OP but EVERY Mayweather or Pacquiao thread has ALL the same people saying the SAME shit. :smh:
Ironically, your comment has become as common as these threads. Whenever this topic pops up, so does the comment you just posted... basically. If the topic's not worth the attention, why keep saying it's not worth the attention? :dunno: Just stop paying it attention. :hmm:
 
Ironically, your comment has become as common as these threads. Whenever this topic pops up, so does the comment you just posted... basically. If the topic's not worth the attention, why keep saying it's not worth the attention? :dunno: Just stop paying it attention. :hmm:

yep
 
honestly......i could care less about the fight now....i just wanna see Manny suffer
all that arrogance in the beginning is costing him dearly now
:lol::lol::lol:

Manny arrogant and not floyd...wow.

manny will be alright,dude has a possible bright career in politics awaiting him.
 
FUCK IT let pac fight ab since thats the closest he's gone get to pbf anyways and ab needs to redeem himself

especially after this


 
man these threads are getting to be like the concept of the fight... old, outdated and not worth the attention. No offense to the OP but EVERY Mayweather or Pacquiao thread has ALL the same people saying the SAME shit. :smh:

I know, I'm Floyd fan but these threads are tiresome not just on here but on other forums, same old arguments back and forth. I swear stans on both sides would rather fight each other than see the actual boxers fight.
 
I know, I'm Floyd fan but these threads are tiresome not just on here but on other forums, same old arguments back and forth. I swear stans on both sides would rather fight each other than see the actual boxers fight.


Lol you still in here talking making the thread longer and longer. We don't feel you bro. Move on.
 
How about Pacquiao vs. Canelo?
Pacquiao no longer has the power to make someone like Canelo come to
140. So the fight will be made at 150, and Canelo will KO Pacquiao in 4
rounds. The reason why this fight is hard is because Canelo is a Golden
Boy fighter, and Arum hates Golden Boy
 
:lol:
Ironically, your comment has become as common as these threads. Whenever this topic pops up, so does the comment you just posted... basically. If the topic's not worth the attention, why keep saying it's not worth the attention? :dunno: Just stop paying it attention. :hmm:

/debate


Never understood why cats bump a post they don't feel should exist
 
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