Mayweather Sr. wants $2M to train against his son

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LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Sr., who has trained Oscar De La Hoya since late 2000, said it doesn't appear he'll work for De La Hoya -- and against his son -- in the May 5 super welterweight title bout at the MGM Grand Garden.

De La Hoya hasn't chosen his trainer for what promoters hope will be the best-selling pay-per-view bout ever. It's expected to be the biggest nonheavyweight fight, and the elder Mayweather said he wants his share of a large pie.


"If they want me to work against my son, then they're going to have to pay me," Mayweather Sr. told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "My son and I, no matter what's gone down between us, he's still my blood. Hey, I'd work for Oscar if the deal is right, because that's my job and boxing is just a sport.

"But if you want me to tell you how to beat my son -- and I'm the only one who can tell Oscar how to do that -- then you need to pay me."

Mayweather Sr. said he was offered a $500,000 guarantee and $500,000 if De La Hoya wins, which he called insulting. He said he wants a flat $2 million. De La Hoya is expected to make a guarantee in excess of $20 million and will share in the pay-per-view profits.

Mayweather and his son have feuded since 1999 and rarely speak. The elder Mayweather said he would work for his son if his son asked, though he said he didn't expect it. Mayweather Jr. employs his uncle, Roger Mayweather, as his trainer.

Mayweather Sr. said he has no other disputes with De La Hoya and, if he isn't hired to work this fight, would not rule out working for De La Hoya again in the future.

But he said there's no way he'll accept a flat $1 million, let alone the offer he said De La Hoya made.

"Let him take his million and give it to someone else," Mayweather Sr. said. "It's not like he doesn't have the money to pay me. And this isn't just any fight. And that isn't just any fighter. That's my son in there. Good, bad or indifferent, that's my son."

Mayweather Sr. said if he doesn't work the fight, he expects his son to have little problem beating De La Hoya.

"All he has to do is stay away from the left hook and it's over," Mayweather Sr. said. "But with me, I'll show Oscar how to land that left. That would change things."

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
 
Tripster said:
Man, if Oscar don't tell this dude to go kick rocks! :angry:

I was initially thinking the same shit..BUT... considering the extra drama and backstory having him being the trainer does for this fight..and all the extra promotion it will muster up... it might be good business for Oscar to pay the extra million...
 
eewwll said:
I was initially thinking the same shit..BUT... considering the extra drama and backstory having him being the trainer does for this fight..and all the extra promotion it will muster up... it might be good business for Oscar to pay the extra million...


I understand what you're saying, but just on General Principal you can't pay this dude no $2 million. Fugg that!!! I'm sure you can find SOMEBODY to train you for Mayweather, for $1 Million. Dude wants $2 Million flat out, regardless of who wins. Oscar would be a FOOL to take that! :angry:
 
Floyd is making a reported $22 million and he's NOT the Draw. Oscar is probably gonna make $30 million. You asking a guy to teach you to fuck up his son, I dont blame Floyd. He doesnt even want to do it in the first place. Oscar at first wouldnt sign the deal because Mayweather Sr. said he wouldnt train him. I guess Oscar seen all them 0's in that check and was like fuck it.

Floyd is the most technically skilled boxer in the sport right now and he's in his prime, I seriously think Oscar needs Sr. to beat him.
 
FJP said:
Floyd is making a reported $22 million and he's NOT the Draw. Oscar is probably gonna make $30 million. You asking a guy to teach you to fuck up his son, I dont blame Floyd. He doesnt even want to do it in the first place. Oscar at first wouldnt sign the deal because Mayweather Sr. said he wouldnt train him. I guess Oscar seen all them 0's in that check and was like fuck it.

Floyd is the most technically skilled boxer in the sport right now and he's in his prime, I seriously think Oscar needs Sr. to beat him.

How is Floyd not the draw? With who else would De La Hoya get 30mil?
 
Nzinga said:
How is Floyd not the draw? With who else would De La Hoya get 30mil?

The Golden Boy is the media darling of the sport.The truth of the matter is that De La Hoya has proven that he can sell the pay per view tickets like no other boxer can right now... From a Boxing technical perspective Floyd is the draw.. but from a media standpoint...sell tickets...fight of the decade.. it is the business machine of De La Hoya that is going to make this the superfight it should be... i bet you there are millions of americans that could only name De La Hoya if you asked them to name a boxer...
 
Nzinga said:
How is Floyd not the draw? With who else would De La Hoya get 30mil?


You must not watch boxing. Oscar is the biggest draw in boxing history under Mike Tyson. Floyd can barely get shit to sell out. Look at Oscars purses and look at floyds, shit aint even Comparable.
 
Oscar is a bigger draw than Floyd. Floyd has been criticized lately about his opponents, in other words....HE AIN'T FOUGHT NOBODY RECENTLY. :lol: Oscar is the biggest PPV draw out there, period. Notice, I'm not saying he's the better fighter, but he is more popular worldwide.

Make no mistake, they need each other, because this is the BEST fight right now for both of them.

By the way, I actually think Oscar will win by split decision. The only thing better than this fight, is the REMATCH after a controversial decision!
 
I can't believe Sr. would even consider working to defeat his son for any amount of money. Damn, that's just wrong. It might be okay to do in a team situation, but not in boxing where the whole idea is for one man to beat the shit out of the other. You mean to tell me Sr. could live with seeing his son lying "lights out" on the canvas, and he had a hand in it? No way! C'mon, blood has to count for something. If I was Floyd and my father did that, it would be really hard to let that slide. :smh:
 
ronmch20 said:
I can't believe Sr. would even consider working to defeat his son for any amount of money. Damn, that's just wrong. It might be okay to do in a team situation, but not in boxing where the whole idea is for one man to beat the shit out of the other. You mean to tell me Sr. could live with seeing his son lying "lights out" on the canvas, and he had a hand in it? No way! C'mon, blood has to count for something. If I was Floyd and my father did that, it would be really hard to let that slide. :smh:

I dont know exactly how it happened...i am sure a google search or even someone here might chime in to expound.. but from my understanding they have not been on speaking terms in years anyway
 
Oscar bring the bitches and the latinos son. Mufuckas get tickets to see Oscar because of all the pussy thas gon be there. Floyd gonna fuck that fool up tho.

How can dude even entertain the thought of trainin another mufucka to whip his sons ass???????????????????

There ain't enough money. I don't get that.
 
DjMorpheus said:
. Floyd gonna fuck that fool up tho.
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I dont man. Oscar is bigger than most of the fighters that Floyd has faced..also DLH always fights great fighters...and you cant say the same for Floyd. I am not saying that Floyd wont win, but he is going to get challenged in this fight.
 
thats the mans son... has it ever occured to anyone that this nigga is just tryin to get paid. he aint gonna let de la hoya in on any inside tips. de la hoya might believe that and mayweather sr may lead him on but he is just tryin to hustle. can u say sabotage?
 
I'm not a Oscar fan at all but, I think it will be a good fight. What about Mayweather's fragile hand's? Anybody think that could be a factor?
 
jumbo0307 said:
thats the mans son... has it ever occured to anyone that this nigga is just tryin to get paid. he aint gonna let de la hoya in on any inside tips. de la hoya might believe that and mayweather sr may lead him on but he is just tryin to hustle. can u say sabotage?
:yes:
 
DiGeneral said:
I'm not a Oscar fan at all but, I think it will be a good fight. What about Mayweather's fragile hand's? Anybody think that could be a factor?

Could be a real factor with him always breaking his hands durings fights..especially being he will be fighter a bigger fighter than he is used to fighting....
 
jumbo0307 said:
thats the mans son... has it ever occured to anyone that this nigga is just tryin to get paid. he aint gonna let de la hoya in on any inside tips. de la hoya might believe that and mayweather sr may lead him on but he is just tryin to hustle. can u say sabotage?

naw playa... Mayweather Sr. has been De la Hoyas trainer for year... and also... Sr and Floyd has not been on good terms for years... I think this is a case of Mayweather Sr. pretty much saying.. If I am going to take this fight and completely alienate my son beyond what the situation already is....maybe for life.. I am going to get paid in the process....

and how can he sabotage DLH
 
De La Hoya doesn't stand a chance if the father isn't training him, he knows how to beat his son...
 
man im willing to take paypal bets against on who thinks DELAHOYA has a chance....

this is going to be an easy fight for Floyd

i mean super easy

hell win by 4 rounds or more

but if his dads in there...bets off

he trained the nigga since he was a kid

he knows his weaknesses

plus Floyd is getting to damn big headed
 
eewwll said:
you trying to call me out AlexW.... lol


no not at all

my comments were addressed to anyone who thinks Oscar has a chance...

Floyd is just as good defensively as he is offensively'

if he circles to oscars left hand

Oscar doesnt have a chance

and the fight may become embarrassing

one thing I know very well is boxing

this fight isnt exciting to me

Floyd needs to fight better fighters

he keeps picking cream puffs

and Oscar super creamy
 
alexw said:
no not at all

my comments were addressed to anyone who thinks Oscar has a chance...

Floyd is just as good defensively as he is offensively'

if he circles to oscars left hand

Oscar doesnt have a chance

and the fight may become embarrassing

one thing I know very well is boxing

this fight isnt exciting to me

Floyd needs to fight better fighters

he keeps picking cream puffs

and Oscar super creamy

i was kidding man.. but i did mention i think Oscar might cause problems for Floyd IF he can land punches because he is bigger than the other fighters that Floyd has fought... but that is a big IF because Floyd is so damn fast..

I might take you up on this bet.. actually man..I am supposed to come back to the U.S. to see this fight.. my business associate has access to ringsides... if you were in LA i could have dropped you a ringside for the Arce fight at the Staples Center this weekend..If you ever want to check out an El Travieso Arce fight..let me know...I have access to ringside tickets to all of his fights.
 
eewwll said:
naw playa... Mayweather Sr. has been De la Hoyas trainer for year... and also... Sr and Floyd has not been on good terms for years... I think this is a case of Mayweather Sr. pretty much saying.. If I am going to take this fight and completely alienate my son beyond what the situation already is....maybe for life.. I am going to get paid in the process....

and how can he sabotage DLH


they might not have been on good terms in their personal life, but he has trained his son in the recent yrs. how can he sabotage dlh? easily... dlh is only paying for his services... he aint payin for mayweather sr not to give inside tips to mayweather jr... welcome to hustlin 101 :yes:
 
jumbo0307 said:
they might not have been on good terms in their personal life, but he has trained his son in the recent yrs. how can he sabotage dlh? easily... dlh is only paying for his services... he aint payin for mayweather sr not to give inside tips to mayweather jr... welcome to hustlin 101 :yes:

I didnt mean..literally...how could he do it. I know what you meant. I mean...how could DLH be stupid enough not to understand when the training is undermining his goals. He is a smart enough boxer and businessman to see through something like that. There are all types of legal documentatios that a trainer has to sign in regards to training a boxer...He puts his paycheck at risk but doing anything as stupid as this. This is not backyard boxing..this is real deal...that theory just doesnt float....

Floyds uncle, Roger, has been his trainer and trained him during much of his development...remember Sr and Jr.have been strained since 2000 when he fired Sr. as his manager and then his trainer...but I think he trained him for one more fight after that.
 
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Sr. could get that money. Basically Jr and Sr can't get along cause they are the same damn person. Big headed money driven attention getters and we know how it ends when folks like that get together. I like their fight games both of them are masters of what they do and its the sport to take the money... Jr will understand cause he is doing the same thing. This is his pops guy his bread winner and he is stepping up to it. But outside of that it'll be a good fight Jr. will win if he can stop him he can't get a decision over DLH unless its just a beating. yeah DLH is big but so was Corrales and Gatti it just made them bigger targets. DLH should work on in-fighting, hand speed and wrapping his lil ass up
 
Oscar can afford 2 come out his pocket 2 million to have floyd sr. Oscar already has a very good resume, but 2 add floyd on that resume would just add an exclamation point. Sr. got the Blueprint to Jr. why not pay the man.

floyd Sr. and Jr. dont get along Sr. gotta eat 2 Jr aint taking care of him. What better way to let jr (who is 2 big-headed) know that i made you who you are by training someone 2 take the air out his big ass head. But floyd already said in a interview i read that having his pops in the corner is just added motivation to let his pops know his uncle roger is a better trainer.
 
eewwll said:
I was initially thinking the same shit..BUT... considering the extra drama and backstory having him being the trainer does for this fight..and all the extra promotion it will muster up... it might be good business for Oscar to pay the extra million...

I agree with this...I don't see how that can't be done....

Biggest non-heavyweight PPV ever (will blow away Trinidad/De La Hoya)

Fight tickets rumored to start at $350 and may sell out quick...

The fight will bring in millions.....MILLIONS. Floyd Sr. as a trainer on the opposite side of his son as the fighter and his brother as the opposing trainer is marketing gold...

But whether he's the trainer or not, I'm still picking Mayweather :yes:
 
tp2001 said:
The fight will bring in millions.....MILLIONS. Floyd Sr. as a trainer on the opposite side of his son as the fighter and his brother as the opposing trainer is marketing gold...

thats what Im saying man... The back story makes this into a type of dramatic soap opera type of event..the marketing will take a life of its own...the subplots could not be any better...that is IF Mayweather Sr. is in DLHs corner
 
eewwll said:
thats what Im saying man... The back story makes this into a type of dramatic soap opera type of event..the marketing will take a life of its own...the subplots could not be any better...that is IF Mayweather Sr. is in DLHs corner

True, but it's still a draw because it's De La Hoya fighting in Las Vegas...

ODLH fighting in Las Vegas (or better yet L.A.) is like Pitbull and Daddy Yankee throwin a reggaeton concert in Miami...

I want to be at Las Vegas Boulevard just to see how many celebs will be there...almost to the extent of the NBA All-Star Game...
 
Yeah..its a big draw regardless.. but with the Mayweather Sr. issue.. I think it all but gaurantees they shatter all the ppv records...
 
DLH will get destroyed. Remember that I said it. It will be punishment. Oscar will retire after the fight.

Floyd Sr. wont matter. He's tryin to get that 2 mill now cuz he knows Oscar will never fight again after this one.
It will be 12rounds of lopsided asswhoopin. dLH is too old and too slow. PFB is out there training like a fuckin psycho right now.

The end is near............tell Oscar.
 
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