Mayweather says amir khan on steroids

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Taking things further, Mayweather then took some shots at Amir, who seems to be on Roger’s hit list seeing as though he is a stable mate to Manny Pacquiao, a potential opponent for Floyd Jr. one day.

“The only reason Amir Khan has become the fighter he is, is because he’s got those steroids in his ass too. The same thing Pacquiao’s got in him. I know because those mother******* told me,” Roger retorted.

Bold accusations but to know Roger you shouldn’t be surprised. Pressing him for more details on who exactly was dishing out the info to him, he claims to have gotten close to a few members from Team Pacquiao.

“Mother******* from Pacquiao’s camp, that’s who. I talk to them dudes all the time.”

 
Rogers not wild, funny, or interesting... what he is is a damn fool who will probably end up in a pine box soon after Floyds career is over...

As boxing is slowly moving on without them... these transparent ass clowns are desperate as hell to stay relevant... :smh:

So now, any boxer that has any degree of success outside of Floyd is on Steroids!?!?!

With Boxing struggling to hold off MMA, people don't realize the negative impact these stupid ass unqualified, unproven accusations are having on the overall perception of the sport....

Fuck Him, and Sr., and to an extent Floyd... Fucking idiots... :smh:
 
TJervey said:
Rogers not wild, funny, or interesting... what he is is a damn fool who will probably end up in a pine box soon after Floyds career is over...

As boxing is slowly moving on without them... these transparent ass clowns are desperate as hell to stay relevant... :smh:

So now, any boxer that has any degree of success outside of Floyd is on Steroids!?!?!

With Boxing struggling to hold off MMA, people don't realize the negative impact these stupid ass unqualified, unproven accusations are having on the overall perception of the sport....

Fuck Him, and Sr., and to an extent Floyd... Fucking idiots... :smh:
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The more these guys talk, the less credible they become. I agree, these guys hurt boxing with their comments. These are very reckless individuals and they need to be checked. All three of them are reckless.
 
Zeferino said:
The more these guys talk, the less credible they become. I agree, these guys hurt boxing with their comments. These are very reckless individuals and they need to be checked. All three of them are reckless.
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naw. according to the masses on bgol they are truth speakers. just the fact that they never back it up remains not important to whatever issue they discuss. this upstanding family is without fault and only can testify on what they know about. you would be a fool to side against them.
 
buk said:
naw. according to the masses on bgol they are truth speakers. just the fact that they never back it up remains not important to whatever issue they discuss. this upstanding family is without fault and only can testify on what they know about. you would be a fool to side against them.
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:lol:
It's funny but true. It's telling to see so many people utterly convinced of something said by such fools and said in such foolish ways over and over again. The masses will believe anything if it's repeated enough no matter how baseless it is. Then they'll call you the crazy one if you don't believe it or ask for evidence. It's like religion.
 
:lol: I knew the same people who can't stand to talk about the Mayweathers or PED speculations would be the main motherfuckers talking about this shit...

As far as the story, if you actually read it... Roger says he was told by someone in Pac's camp, not that he just believes that Khan's or anyone else success is unnatural like Manny's success (for Jervey's question). Call them idiots if you don't agree with their opinions, but so far in the whole saga is concerned, the Mayweathers have been more truthful than Arum, Roach or Pac about any of these issues and the Pac side had no problem associating themselves with the one proven cheater in the mix, Margarito. So it isn't that far fetched to believe that all of them in that camp could be dirty especially if you are Roger Mayweather and someone told you that as he alleges.

With that said... Khan hasn't been suspect in his actions and even if Roger is being honest, it's still some "he said/she said" shit with nothing else behind it. I'll wait to drop the guilty verdict until Khan says he's afraid of needles, giving blood makes him weak, that he agreed to all the testing when he didn't or the rest of Manny's many lies as to why random blood testing can't be random for his biggest payday. Right now, Khan says he wants Floyd and he knows that serious testing will be apart of the deal so I'm confident that he's clean.

Pac on the other hand, let's see if he runs away from the negotiations again or if he passes the test when they make the fight happen.
 
Alaskanredman said:
:lol: I knew the same people who can't stand to talk about the Mayweathers or PED speculations would be the main motherfuckers talking about this shit...

As far as the story, if you actually read it... Roger says he was told by someone in Pac's camp, not that he just believes that Khan's or anyone else success is unnatural like Manny's success (for Jervey's question). Call them idiots if you don't agree with their opinions, but so far in the whole saga is concerned, the Mayweathers have been more truthful than Arum, Roach or Pac about any of these issues and the Pac side had no problem associating themselves with the one proven cheater in the mix, Margarito. So it isn't that far fetched to believe that all of them in that camp could be dirty especially if you are Roger Mayweather and someone told you that as he alleges.

With that said... Khan hasn't been suspect in his actions and even if Roger is being honest, it's still some "he said/she said" shit with nothing else behind it. I'll wait to drop the guilty verdict until Khan says he's afraid of needles, giving blood makes him weak, that he agreed to all the testing when he didn't or the rest of Manny's many lies as to why random blood testing can't be random for his biggest payday. Right now, Khan says he wants Floyd and he knows that serious testing will be apart of the deal so I'm confident that he's clean.

Pac on the other hand, let's see if he runs away from the negotiations again or if he passes the test when they make the fight happen.
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this subject is lame and until there is proof talking about it is a waste of time. On the other hand, the biggest issue with boxing right now is not the use of PEDS. But the fact people are crying foul before they get into the ring or claiming their opponent cheating when they get their butts kicked. I don't think any athlete is clean. The more money they make. The more advantages they take with drugs. The only question is are those drugs detectable or not?
 
Alaskanredman said:
:lol: I knew the same people who can't stand to talk about the Mayweathers or PED speculations would be the main motherfuckers talking about this shit...

As far as the story, if you actually read it... Roger says he was told by someone in Pac's camp, not that he just believes that Khan's or anyone else success is unnatural like Manny's success (for Jervey's question). Call them idiots if you don't agree with their opinions, but so far in the whole saga is concerned, the Mayweathers have been more truthful than Arum, Roach or Pac about any of these issues and the Pac side had no problem associating themselves with the one proven cheater in the mix, Margarito. So it isn't that far fetched to believe that all of them in that camp could be dirty especially if you are Roger Mayweather and someone told you that as he alleges.

With that said... Khan hasn't been suspect in his actions and even if Roger is being honest, it's still some "he said/she said" shit with nothing else behind it. I'll wait to drop the guilty verdict until Khan says he's afraid of needles, giving blood makes him weak, that he agreed to all the testing when he didn't or the rest of Manny's many lies as to why random blood testing can't be random for his biggest payday. Right now, Khan says he wants Floyd and he knows that serious testing will be apart of the deal so I'm confident that he's clean.

Pac on the other hand, let's see if he runs away from the negotiations again or if he passes the test when they make the fight happen.
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C'mon Alaskan, please Man, just stop it... Anybody can say, 'Oh, somebody told me something', but the thing is, Floyd had the opportunity to speak at a deposition, and ran from it... Again, if you are going to make these accusations, please be able to prove it, that's all I am saying. Not for Manny, or against PBF, just speaking on principles... And as far as Roger having an out because he didn't come out and SAY anyhthing (Which he actually did by the way), you, the public and Roger know exactly what he is trying to do...

And can somebody please offer irrefutable proof that what Manny is doing is 'unprecedented' and 'unnatural'?!?!? Please.... :confused: Scientific evidence, real medical authoritative claims... you guys heard someone make this reference and statement... and just ran with it... similar to the fact that you want with everything in you to believe this BS rhetoric the Mayweather's keep putting out... Also Fam, you were understandably quiet in the other 'Bombshell evidence' thread about the revelation article to be written showing proof of Manny's PED use... :)

That being said, the onus of proof is NOT on Manny so he is under no obligation to do anything to 'clear' his name because no definitive evidence has been brought up against him.... only speculation. As far as the Mayweather's go, they have unconditionally made direct claims and accusations against Manny, so it is THEIR obligation and the burden of proof is on them... This shit is so baseless it's laughable... Like I said before, we have people with limited intelligence doing whatever they can to remain relevant, and with the state of boxing the way it is, and with new, rising stars being developed, we are talking about 3 individuals who are in the 13th minute of their 15 minutes, and they are holding on for dear life with these baseless claims... :smh:
 
TJervey said:
C'mon Alaskan, please Man, just stop it... Anybody can say, 'Oh, somebody told me something', but the thing is, Floyd had the opportunity to speak at a deposition, and ran from it... Again, if you are going to make these accusations, please be able to prove it, that's all I am saying. Not for Manny, or against PBF, just speaking on principles... And as far as Roger having an out because he didn't come out and SAY anyhthing (Which he actually did by the way), you, the public and Roger know exactly what he is trying to do...

And can somebody please offer irrefutable proof that what Manny is doing is 'unprecedented' and 'unnatural'?!?!? Please.... :confused: Scientific evidence, real medical authoritative claims... you guys heard someone make this reference and statement... and just ran with it... similar to the fact that you want with everything in you to believe this BS rhetoric the Mayweather's keep putting out... Also Fam, you were understandably quiet in the other 'Bombshell evidence' thread about the revelation article to be written showing proof of Manny's PED use... :)

That being said, the onus of proof is NOT on Manny so he is under no obligation to do anything to 'clear' his name because no definitive evidence has been brought up against him.... only speculation. As far as the Mayweather's go, they have unconditionally made direct claims and accusations against Manny, so it is THEIR obligation and the burden of proof is on them... This shit is so baseless it's laughable... Like I said before, we have people with limited intelligence doing whatever they can to remain relevant, and with the state of boxing the way it is, and with new, rising stars being developed, we are talking about 3 individuals who are in the 13th minute of their 15 minutes, and they are holding on for dear life with these baseless claims... :smh:
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:yes: True but unfortunately you're speaking the language of reality and logic so he might not understand. Mealy mouth, crack smoking, illiterate, women beating, ghetto bastard thugs with no education are way more credible than any lawyer or scientist to people like this.

Yeah, Pacquiao is doing unprecedented amazing things and his super powers are actually increasing. :lol: Yeah, let's see. Maybe this is why Pacquio went the distance with Clottey, went the distance with a Margarito that had been viciously knocked out by a past his prime Mosley maybe just a fight or two before, had to go all the way to the 12th round with a Cotto that had been pummelled with rock wraps and knocked out just 2 fights before and still could have probably gone on had the ref not stopped it. Pac couldn't drop an old and supposedly weight drained Oscar and Oscar actually quit on his stool much like Julio Cesar Chavez had against him. The only clean knockout Pacquiao has gotten in the past few years was against Hatton at 140, the lower weight, so this dispels this nonsense about his super powers increasing with his rise in weight. Furthermore, Hatton was already struggling and had already been rocked by non punching Collazo and knocked out by a Mayweather that some say has no "pop". So how amazing and unprecedented of a knockout of Hatton by Pacquiao was that anyway? :smh: To me , none of this looks like Pacquiao is doing a Mike Tyson on anyone at the higher weights. I can't believe people fall for this PED rumor shit and the whole legend created around it. These guys are making Pacquiao's power overrated. Mayweather probably inadvertently did a reverse psych job on himself and is all shook over Pacquiao's power. Just shameful.
 
TJervey said:
C'mon Alaskan, please Man, just stop it... Anybody can say, 'Oh, somebody told me something', but the thing is, Floyd had the opportunity to speak at a deposition, and ran from it... Again, if you are going to make these accusations, please be able to prove it, that's all I am saying. Not for Manny, or against PBF, just speaking on principles... And as far as Roger having an out because he didn't come out and SAY anyhthing (Which he actually did by the way), you, the public and Roger know exactly what he is trying to do...
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Floyd didn't speak at the deposition because he didn't have proof, but like it has been discussed many times they believed Manny was cheating and the thing is when someone is cheating they don't leave clues and evidence that they are cheating because that defeats the purpose of cheating. The only thing you can do if you believe someone is cheating is make it harder for them to cheat and we seen the dancing that Manny did when he was presented with stricter obstacles to cheating.

TJervey said:
And can somebody please offer irrefutable proof that what Manny is doing is 'unprecedented' and 'unnatural'?!?!? Please.... :confused: Scientific evidence, real medical authoritative claims... you guys heard someone make this reference and statement... and just ran with it... similar to the fact that you want with everything in you to believe this BS rhetoric the Mayweather's keep putting out... Also Fam, you were understandably quiet in the other 'Bombshell evidence' thread about the revelation article to be written showing proof of Manny's PED use... :)
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I'm not a scientist or medical authority, but I've watched a lot of boxing and I'm pretty sure that the Mayweathers have seen more than all of us... All I'm saying is that I can say without a doubt that I didn't think Manny could destroy Cotto at all. Either way, regardless of what I believe, James Toney, under Roach, didn't do anything that I thought was unprecedented or unnatural... there was no scientific evidence or medical authoritative claims prior to him being caught. He just tested positive like others and by the way, the whole point of the designer drugs is to hide evidence.

As far as the 'Bombshell evidence' thread, I posted my two cents, but I didn't know what to make of it so I waited like everyone else. The only thing that came out is that Manny has a roid head in his crew from what I could tell.

TJervey said:
That being said, the onus of proof is NOT on Manny so he is under no obligation to do anything to 'clear' his name because no definitive evidence has been brought up against him.... only speculation. As far as the Mayweather's go, they have unconditionally made direct claims and accusations against Manny, so it is THEIR obligation and the burden of proof is on them... This shit is so baseless it's laughable... Like I said before, we have people with limited intelligence doing whatever they can to remain relevant, and with the state of boxing the way it is, and with new, rising stars being developed, we are talking about 3 individuals who are in the 13th minute of their 15 minutes, and they are holding on for dear life with these baseless claims... :smh:
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Manny didn't have to clear his name and you are correct about that, but most importantly he didn't have to lie about the situation either. People lie to hide something. I expect Khan to laugh at the silly Mayweather's about this and when it's his turn to get a chance at Floyd... he'll gladly take the test just for the chance to whoop Floyd's ass and make a gang of money. Berto was talking crazy about Ortiz and PED and guess what, he laugh the situation off cause now is doing the stricter testing to fight Floyd... not cause he trying to prove his innocence, but because it is a non-issue to clean fighters.

So yes, the Mayweather's jump out there talking big shit that they can't prove, but it seems to me that they hit on something otherwise Manny wouldn't have lied and more importantly if he was so offended, he would not be caving on the issue now as it seems to be the case... I mean, what would be the reason to change his stance? He had his pride and his feelings were so hurt, right? Why does he feel the obligation to take the test now when he had his principles... Maybe he has completely clean out his system, dunno?

The Mayweather's relevancy seems to be alive and very well in you guys cause everyone of you want to take every chance possible to talk about them. :lol:
 
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Zeferino said:
They don't give a fuck! :lol:
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Especially Roger. Roger is basically a street dude who says whatever the fuck he wants when he wants. He's entertaining but people should learn to take what he says with a grain of salt.

Now can we get on with the Mayweather reality show.:D
 
TJervey said:
... Like I said before, we have people with limited intelligence doing whatever they can to remain relevant, and with the state of boxing the way it is, and with new, rising stars being developed, we are talking about 3 individuals who are in the 13th minute of their 15 minutes, and they are holding on for dear life with these baseless claims... :smh:
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Now that's not true. The Mayweathers are some of the preeminent names in the sport and that's with Floyd not having fought in a year and a half. When they say shit, people pay attention. They, as a group, are far, far from being in the last throes of their celebrity.
 
Zab is fucking dude up in less than 4 hours.

:itsawrap:

i got $500 on zab who want it?

Freddie jumped the gun thinking Zab was washed up

Amir Khan will hate Freddie after tonight.
 
TJervey said:
Rogers not wild, funny, or interesting... what he is is a damn fool who will probably end up in a pine box soon after Floyds career is over...

As boxing is slowly moving on without them... these transparent ass clowns are desperate as hell to stay relevant... :smh:

So now, any boxer that has any degree of success outside of Floyd is on Steroids!?!?!

With Boxing struggling to hold off MMA, people don't realize the negative impact these stupid ass unqualified, unproven accusations are having on the overall perception of the sport....

Fuck Him, and Sr., and to an extent Floyd... Fucking idiots... :smh:
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I was saying this in the other thread about Pacman. Mayweather is killing boxing.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Now that's not true. The Mayweathers are some of the preeminent names in the sport and that's with Floyd not having fought in a year and a half. When they say shit, people pay attention. They, as a group, are far, far from being in the last throes of their celebrity.
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Totally agree with your contention... up to this point. But, after Floyd, who else is in line to carry on the Mayweather 'name'? Also, at this point, the boxing public is becoming more educated, and with the Internet, and other forms of social media, their negatives are much more publicized and scrutinized. That being said, as we head more toward the twilight of Floyds career, they are more known for their legal issues, ignorance, and lack of character, and opening their mouths and showing their lack of true intelligence, which also doesn't jive with where I believe the sport is going. So, sure, they may jump on the bandwagon of the 'reality' show thing, a few seasons maybe, but ultimately, what do they have to offer but an inside look at 3 men who have been fortunate enough to make a tremendous living for themselves, self destruct, and ultimately, they will drift off into oblivion... sort of like Kesha(sp) Cole's Mother, and others just like them.... 13th minute of their 15 Fam... :smh:
 
TJervey said:
Totally agree with your contention... up to this point. But, after Floyd, who else is in line to carry on the Mayweather 'name'? Also, at this point, the boxing public is becoming more educated, and with the Internet, and other forms of social media, their negatives are much more publicized and scrutinized. That being said, as we head more toward the twilight of Floyds career, they are more known for their legal issues, ignorance, and lack of character, and opening their mouths and showing their lack of true intelligence, which also doesn't jive with where I believe the sport is going. So, sure, they may jump on the bandwagon of the 'reality' show thing, a few seasons maybe, but ultimately, what do they have to offer but an inside look at 3 men who have been fortunate enough to make a tremendous living for themselves, self destruct, and ultimately, they will drift off into oblivion... sort of like Kesha(sp) Cole's Mother, and others just like them.... 13th minute of their 15 Fam... :smh:
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I think a Mayweather reality show could potentially display ignorance on the level of that Flava of Love show. It would be embarrassing but entertaining. Roger would probably carry the show.
 
TJervey said:
Totally agree with your contention... up to this point. But, after Floyd, who else is in line to carry on the Mayweather 'name'? Also, at this point, the boxing public is becoming more educated, and with the Internet, and other forms of social media, their negatives are much more publicized and scrutinized. That being said, as we head more toward the twilight of Floyds career, they are more known for their legal issues, ignorance, and lack of character, and opening their mouths and showing their lack of true intelligence, which also doesn't jive with where I believe the sport is going. So, sure, they may jump on the bandwagon of the 'reality' show thing, a few seasons maybe, but ultimately, what do they have to offer but an inside look at 3 men who have been fortunate enough to make a tremendous living for themselves, self destruct, and ultimately, they will drift off into oblivion... sort of like Kesha(sp) Cole's Mother, and others just like them.... 13th minute of their 15 Fam... :smh:
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We don't disagree much but this is where you lose me. Kiesha Cole's mother is famous for being Cole's self destructive mother who abandoned her. Roger, Floyd Sr, and most especially Floyd Jr are famous for actually doing something. So show or no show, they've made their marks as professionals, boxers and trainers.

Zeferino said:
I think a Mayweather reality show could potentially display ignorance on the level of that Flava of Love show. It would be embarrassing but entertaining. Roger would probably carry the show.
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Hell yeah, the only "reality" shows worth watching are the ignorant ones.
 
Rick Ronson said:
Do they test after the fight or is it out of your system by then?

How did they catch Fernando and Shane? :confused:
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Vargas got caught with the normal piss test after the fight as did all of the other guys that got caught except Mosley. Mosely was using an undetectable one and only got caught when the guy that made and sold him the shit got caught.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
We don't disagree much but this is where you lose me. Kiesha Cole's mother is famous for being Cole's self destructive mother who abandoned her. Roger, Floyd Sr, and most especially Floyd Jr are famous for actually doing something. So show or no show, they've made their marks as professionals, boxers and trainers.



Hell yeah, the only "reality" shows worth watching are the ignorant ones.
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I wasn't discrediting their accomplishments with that statement, their impact on the sport is without dispute, it is the negative way they're lives will impact them, and a reality shoe will have them viewed more from the same sense of ignorance, more so than there accomplishments... The worst thing that can happen to their 'legacies' is to give the general public access to their more non-public lives... :smh:
 
TJervey said:
I wasn't discrediting their accomplishments with that statement, their impact on the sport is without dispute, it is the negative way they're lives will impact them, and a reality shoe will have them viewed more from the same sense of ignorance, more so than there accomplishments... The worst thing that can happen to their 'legacies' is to give the general public access to their more non-public lives... :smh:
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That's true. No one could stand under the scrutiny of public opionion if all their business was put out there.
 
For a hot sec, can we not counter Roger's outlandish statements with equally outlandish statements? No one named Mayweather is killing boxing especially with a bunch of talk.
Boxing survived one of it's top star and heavyweight champion choose to not fight his top contender and threw one of his title belts in the trash instead.
It's survived some of it's top stars, including a couple HoFers, being caught as steroid cheats.
It's survived big fights marred by horrible decisions or lackluster performances.
It's survived top stars getting arrested for drug charges and domestic violence.
It survived a top fighter getting caught loading his gloves before a major fight.
It's survived a hard push by UFC (the biggest boxing fight is still bigger than the biggest UFC fights).
The sport of boxing will outlive Mayweather, Pacquiao, King, Arum, De La Hoya and anyone we can think of.
 
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