Rick Ronson
Banned
Floyd as skilled as he is has never been looked at as feared or brave.
Mayweather-Pacquiao all but dead for now. PBF fighting Robert Guerrero next.
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Actually Mayweather has fought just as many, if not more, opponents who were bigger than him than ones smaller.
I find this funny after dudes can clearly see Marquez isn't a fucking joke even if its at welter weight. It's just Floyd is better than him and Pac along with a lot of fighters aren't. Hatton only got the fight because he pulled an Aaron Pryor and Floyd did what Sugar Ray didn't do.
True. You could tell by the disrespectful way Ortiz' trainer was talking about him. They always have to get in the ring and take the asswhooping before they respect him.
He says this but is negotiating with a lightweight, lmao
Buk always takes the goofiest rumors to heart and then when the shit turns out to be bogus he hides out till the next anti floyd article is made. His MO should be known by now for cats who are always in boxing threads and its the same hand full of motherfuckers who crawl out their holes to co sign his shit.
There it is. Mike Tyson was feared, but compare his record to Floyd's.
Rick Ronson
Banned
Anyone you mention is easy for the nigga including pac bitch
Pac Bitchs fans just want their shot and realize its slipping away.
The top dog is Floyd which is why it was always up to him.
Pacquiaos task is to not get into any real fights before fighting Floyd
which he has done a decent job of by fighting mothafuckas like SSM
AM etc but the shit almost backfired on his as he though JMM was done.
Pac Bitchs fans just want their shot and realize its slipping away.
The top dog is Floyd which is why it was always up to him.
Pacquiaos task is to not get into any real fights before fighting Floyd
which he has done a decent job of by fighting mothafuckas like SSM
AM etc but the shit almost backfired on his as he though JMM was done.
He's very talented, and I think he has the frame and the size to handle a jump from 135 to 147 - I stopped reading after this shit. Once again another SMALL MUTHAFUCKA to dominate and get suckas to not only pay for that shit but proclaim his greatness. (CTFU)
The fight was never going to happen maybe November.
No one with sense would defend this choice if it becomes the choice, but just to help spark the limitation that is your brain... name the smaller fighters Floyd has fought and then name how many times Floyd has moved up in weight during his career.
You might look like this afterwards
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even espn is starting to come around , even though they are still giving manny a pass by blaming arum.
even espn is starting to come around , even though they are still giving manny a pass by blaming arum.
I think they place the blame properly due to the fact Manny don't decide who he fights. Floyd has sole control of his choices though.
No one with sense would defend this choice if it becomes the choice, but just to help spark the limitation that is your brain... name the smaller fighters Floyd has fought and then name how many times Floyd has moved up in weight during his career.
You might look like this afterwards
Juan, Ricky, Carlos, Zab, Gatti, Brussels, Corely, and then I stopped looking. And PBF is 5 foot 8 while Manny is 5 foot 6 and 1/2.
these guys were smaller than Floyd... damn you are slow. I don't know if you have notice but the fight game goes on weight not height, but even then a inch and a half is too much... some sarcasm just cause I know your slow ass doesn't get it.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=352&cat=boxer
Look at the weight. He rarely was the smaller guy. Granted the groupies are going to cosign, but facts are facts. PBF usual has height, arm reach, and weight advantages. It isn't often he doesn't. That's how dude rolls.
WTF are you talking about
You're a fucking idiot. We are talking weigh classes. A fighter has no control over how a motherfucker shows up for the weigh ins and fight night. Dude you are really stupid. You got it though cause I need a break from retard talk.
WTF are you talking about
You're a fucking idiot. We are talking weigh classes. A fighter has no control over how a motherfucker shows up for the weigh ins and fight night. Dude you are really stupid. You got it though cause I need a break from retard talk.
Lol, male groupies.
Get ready to see this a bunch if Robert Guerrero gets a fight with Floyd Mayweather. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
The hot rumor of the week is that Robert Guerrero is going to Floyd Mayweather's opponent for his May 5th date at the MGM Grand. The question that most boxing fans had were "what has Robert done to earn this shot?" Guerrero's manager Bob Santos answered this question along with a few others in an interview with Ryan Maquiñana of Boxing Scene and CSN Bay Area (Bay Area Represent!).
"There's no doubt about it. Robert has done everything he can do, in my opinion, inside the ring. He's won multiple world championships in multiple divisions. He's undefeated in world title fights. He's went overseas to beat champions on their home turf. Then couple that with the things he's dealt with outside the ring and I think it's going to be a tremendous pay-per-view once he gets on 24/7 or goes on CNN with Piers Morgan.
"Look, Floyd's going to sell what he's going to sell. He's going to do X amount of buys regardless of if he fights the ice cream man. That being said, when people see that Robert's won multiple world championships and undefeated in title fights, and see the story behind him and the person he is in and outside of the ring, I think that's what's going to appeal to the guy in the softball league or the soccer mom."
Alright so this is looking at Guerrero through the rosiest lens on the face of the earth. He's not really undefeated in world championship fight since Orlando Salido dominated him at featherweight but then Salido tested positive for the steroid Nandrolone. However, he was immediately given another test where he tested negative. Also the fight he had overseas was Spend Abazi for the vacant title after Salido tested positive for steroids. This is Guerrero's only fight abroad, so he hasn't exactly beaten champions abroad, he has fought abroad for a vacant title. Guerrero also has another no contest in a title fight against Daud Yordan. So he hasn't exactly won all of his title fights either. However, the most important reason why the #NoToGuerrero movement took hold is that Robert has zero fights at 147 and only one fight at 138. There will be a gigantic size mismatch between the two, which Floyd will use to destroy the Ghost. I really hate that this fight seems very likely because it is a terrible matchup.
The hot rumor of the week is that Robert Guerrero is going to Floyd Mayweather's opponent for his May 5th date at the MGM Grand. The question that most boxing fans had were "what has Robert done to earn this shot?" Guerrero's manager Bob Santos answered this question along with a few others in an interview with Ryan Maquiñana of Boxing Scene and CSN Bay Area (Bay Area Represent!).
"There's no doubt about it. Robert has done everything he can do, in my opinion, inside the ring. He's won multiple world championships in multiple divisions. He's undefeated in world title fights. He's went overseas to beat champions on their home turf. Then couple that with the things he's dealt with outside the ring and I think it's going to be a tremendous pay-per-view once he gets on 24/7 or goes on CNN with Piers Morgan.
"Look, Floyd's going to sell what he's going to sell. He's going to do X amount of buys regardless of if he fights the ice cream man. That being said, when people see that Robert's won multiple world championships and undefeated in title fights, and see the story behind him and the person he is in and outside of the ring, I think that's what's going to appeal to the guy in the softball league or the soccer mom."
Alright so this is looking at Guerrero through the rosiest lens on the face of the earth. He's not really undefeated in world championship fight since Orlando Salido dominated him at featherweight but then Salido tested positive for the steroid Nandrolone. However, he was immediately given another test where he tested negative. Also the fight he had overseas was Spend Abazi for the vacant title after Salido tested positive for steroids. This is Guerrero's only fight abroad, so he hasn't exactly beaten champions abroad, he has fought abroad for a vacant title. Guerrero also has another no contest in a title fight against Daud Yordan. So he hasn't exactly won all of his title fights either. However, the most important reason why the #NoToGuerrero movement took hold is that Robert has zero fights at 147 and only one fight at 138. There will be a gigantic size mismatch between the two, which Floyd will use to destroy the Ghost. I really hate that this fight seems very likely because it is a terrible matchup.
No one with sense would defend this choice if it becomes the choice, but just to help spark the limitation that is your brain... name the smaller fighters Floyd has fought and then name how many times Floyd has moved up in weight during his career.
You might look like this afterwards
Looking at the facts and not listening to what other people tell you can be enlightening...
for some people. Having a reach advantage isn't part of the equation. If it was, Paul Williams should have been fighting heavyweights years ago.
Just going by the men you listed, he was the bigger fighter just as often as he is the smaller fighter and in many of the fights where he's the bigger guy, it's only by a pound or less (and these are official weigh in weights not actual, fight night weights). At the same time, he was much smaller than Oscar, Ortiz, Baldomir when he fought them.
Dude has a screw loose.
Man, this is the problem with boxing fans. Y'all are revisionists and often jump on the bandwagons late. Y'all don't remember when Shamba Mitchell was seen as a legitimate fighter against Floyd. I remember Manny Stew was saying I want to see what Floyd can do against a S. Mitchell, a guy who had speed and power. He even said on the telecast that Mitchell was a tester (he thought) for Cotto. Well, Floyd beat the shit out of Mitchell and ended his ass with a body shot. Then there was no more talk about Mitchell. He is now just looked at as another weak, "duck" fighter.
Bryan Kenny thought Flyod wasn't ish until he fought SSM. Hell, everyone thought SSM was a killer after beating the great, unbeatable (but with five losses) Margarito. The game is all hype.
Why does it matter if Manny has a shorter reach? I understand the concept of reach, but one, it is a little overrated. Did Ali have a longer reach than Foreman? What about Liston? No one knows. It matters, but it depends on how you use it (see Paul Williams).
Second, remember, Floyd is scared of Manny's otherworldly power. That's the premise for the Floyd duck. This power that knocked out Hatton, sent Margarito to retirement, Cotto out. This dude is a little Mike Tyson. Floyd has feather fists. It doesn't matter how much bigger he is..he doesn't knock fighters out at WW. He is a fraud. All of these things have been said of Mayweather...lol.
Truth be told, Manny looks great against fighters that have no defense. Fighters that come forward. Everyone knew Cotto, Hatton, Margarito have no defense. Shane pretty much went head to head with fighters his entire life. That's why they fought Diaz at 140lbs and then quickly moved to Oscar.
Bryan Kenny thought Flyod wasn't ish until he fought SSM. Hell, everyone thought SSM was a killer after beating the great, unbeatable (but with five losses) Margarito. The game is all hype.
Why does it matter if Manny has a shorter reach? I understand the concept of reach, but one, it is a little overrated. Did Ali have a longer reach than Foreman? What about Liston? No one knows. It matters, but it depends on how you use it (see Paul Williams).
Second, remember, Floyd is scared of Manny's otherworldly power. That's the premise for the Floyd duck. This power that knocked out Hatton, sent Margarito to retirement, Cotto out. This dude is a little Mike Tyson. Floyd has feather fists. It doesn't matter how much bigger he is..he doesn't knock fighters out at WW. He is a fraud. All of these things have been said of Mayweather...lol.
Truth be told, Manny looks great against fighters that have no defense. Fighters that come forward. Everyone knew Cotto, Hatton, Margarito have no defense. Shane pretty much went head to head with fighters his entire life. That's why they fought Diaz at 140lbs and then quickly moved to Oscar.
Interesting
Reach matters. I mean it is pretty well documented that a great jab and reach is probably the toughest then for an opponent to get past. Sharmba was ok however he was exposed as a shell of his former self. I mean he was knocked down and dusted by kostya then he beat a c level fighter lost to pbf then beat another c level fighter then torched by pwill. Kostya ended dude for everyone and all that was left was a faded champ. Losing three out your final 5 fights doesnt speak to a person's greatness during that timespan.
Reach matters but not the way you were using it.
As I said, if reach was all of a sudden a big factor in deciding who fights in what division, Paul Williams should be fighting heavyweights.
Wow, so your are saying fighters have to match up in height, weight and reach. This is a ridiculous way to measure fighters. Lennox Lewis would get no credit under your Floyd microscope. Of course as you type this insanity, you fail to realize that Guerrero is bigger than Pac if you go by height and reach, and matches Floyd's height. Since weight can be manipulated... the Ghost should satisfy you. I mean this reaching is lame even for you.
Did I say that? Trying again. Dude it is almost like you are dave are spooning each time yall post in these threads.
I'm giving you the chance to do you. Talk out both sides of your mouth and run away when people point out the bullshit. You brought up reach and height so defend what you are saying. You can also defend your goofy ass reasoning for why weigh-in weights should be used to determine anything. Especially when your whining about one or two pounds before rehydration and one or two inches in height and reach. I mean I know your a troll and won't say anything useful or explain this bullshit, but what is the purpose of wasting your time like this. Is it just attention? Mayweather fought two guys who moved up in weight solely to fight him. He has also moved up in weight to fight certain people. That shit happens in boxing. You don't have much to say about guys who strave themselves just fight smaller guys like Chavez Jr.
No, it's more like you're really on some crazy shit and we just happen to be the ones, AGAIN, who show you how ridiculous it is.
You threw in reach like it's supposed to be a determining factor in who fights who and that's crazy. In fact, it's a brand new twist to shit on Mayweather but avoid talking about how Arum, who you are very slow to criticize, is working hard to make sure this fight doesn't happen any time soon.
Dude most of the time yall two just seem like yall are cuddling each other while fondling PBF at the same time. Just saying.
