All you come up with is 2 names. Who the fuck is 'we'. Quit looking for cover with your stupid ass 2 names.
Matt Lauer You're....FIRED!!!
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All you come up with is 2 names. Who the fuck is 'we'. Quit looking for cover with your stupid ass 2 names.
I don't want to talk to the women at my job. This one chick tried to fuck my coworker, knowing he was married, and kept inviting him out for drinks. He was leaving the building like a bully was waiting outside school at 3 o'clock.
That's just for now. My point was bitch nigga whites ain't the only one pullin this like brehs on here would like to believe its across all hues since brehs on here are so color conscious. I ain't looking for anything Im good with me and mine.
I hear ya. Not only all hues but all sexes. It was not my intent to say it's only cac's in the wrong.
White woman..?
Yeppers. Aggressive as he'll, but she's a porker.
Beatin' heauxs down till they pass out. I ain't never hit a heaux with da blike out dick.
This. No one is checking for Megyn Kelly these days. She better go up to the White House and bend over for Trump.
uh huh
never under estimate a blonde with a victim card...
My point is Matt paying for pussy or finessing random pussy outside of his work environment will not get him fired for sexual harassment from his 25 million job.
Mostly I agree with you.... but sometimes it's not quite as simple as that.
Those 'morality clauses' are often included in (multi-million dollar) TV contracts and specify that 'the talent' could be fired if they NEGATIVELY AFFECT the public reputation of the parent company.
Since he's a 'public figure'... it might not matter very much (to the company) whether he's doing shit 'on the job'... or in his 'private life'.
Personally, I don't know how it was worded.... but sometimes those morality clauses might prohibit someone from having sex with a partner 'outside of marriage'... especially if it negatively impacts his 'public perception' / or adversely impacts the NBC Brand (or the company's reputation) in any way.
As the saying goes... "Perception is Reality".
Therefore, sometimes the 'Price of Fame'... is a double-edged sword.
The bottom line is... if the 'general public' BELIEVES he's out there sexually abusing women... there's nothing to stop the the audience from TANKING the 'viewership' numbers (or possibly boycotting the network, as a whole
).Now if that ever happened... his private life is no longer just 'a personal issue' that has zero affect his job performance.
Remember, he GETS PAID.... 'to keep the ratings high'.
That's job number #1 for people in his shoes.
So if he does anything (afterwork) which SUDDENLY ruins that somehow... he's getting canned. Pronto.
HBO had a HIT SHOW called "Entourage" which shows exactly how the 'personal life' of the mega-talent (ie. Vince) affects the 'perceptions' of the audience who watches him... and the Studio Execs who want to hire him & pay his salary.
Watch the clip. Especially PR Chic who works for Vince.
TV Broadcasting and Moviemaking are in the same boat... when it comes to 'perception'.
Just saying.
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She passed out in the office?
BTW white feminist are going in on Geraldo's twitter.
These allegation will change the workplace dynamic for a long time. My black ass will continue doing what I've always done before all this allegations..................STAY AWAY FROM WHITE WOMEN at work. No good morning, no thanks and etc. unless I work with them. I notice a lot of them have attitudes anyway.
I work in media.
Mostly I agree with you.... but sometimes it's not quite as simple as that.
Those 'morality clauses' are often included in (multi-million dollar) TV contracts and specify that 'the talent' could be fired if they NEGATIVELY AFFECT the public reputation of the parent company.
Since he's a 'public figure'... it might not matter very much (to the company) whether he's doing shit 'on the job'... or in his 'private life'.
Personally, I don't know how it was worded.... but sometimes those morality clauses might prohibit someone from having sex with a partner 'outside of marriage'... especially if it negatively impacts his 'public perception' / or adversely impacts the NBC Brand (or the company's reputation) in any way.
As the saying goes... "Perception is Reality".
Therefore, sometimes the 'Price of Fame'... is a double-edged sword.
The bottom line is... if the 'general public' BELIEVES he's out there sexually abusing women... there's nothing to stop the the audience from TANKING the 'viewership' numbers (or possibly boycotting the network, as a whole
Now if that ever happened... his private life is no longer just 'a personal issue' that has zero affect his job performance.
Remember, he GETS PAID.... 'to keep the ratings high'.
That's job number #1 for people in his shoes.
So if he does anything (afterwork) which SUDDENLY ruins that somehow... he's getting canned. Pronto.
HBO had a HIT SHOW called "Entourage" which shows exactly how the 'personal life' of the mega-talent (ie. Vince) affects the 'perceptions' of the audience who watches him... and the Studio Execs who want to hire him & pay his salary.
Watch the clip. Especially PR Chic who works for Vince.
TV Broadcasting and Moviemaking are in the same boat... when it comes to 'perception'.
Just saying.
Homie, my statement was predicated on the notion that the public would not find out about his sexual activities outside of this job. & since he's making so much there are non-disclosure agreements if push comes to shove.
U betta..or kiss your life..goodbye..brah
Why do you believe that NOBODY would find out... when he is a 'public figure'?
If he was just a 'regular joe'.... I would agree with you alot more.
But when you appear on tv every single day....random strangers will 'ask for your autograph'... or ask to 'take a photo' with you... or just hang around you at a bar & strike up a conversation... pretty much everywhere you go.
Most folks with his amount of money & recognition use 'fake names' when they check into hotels.
Somebody will spot you.
And snap your photo when you are not paying attention.
Then post it on social media.
Ssshheeiiiit... some folks will take your picture... just so they can sell the pics to a tabloid, or TMZ.
Look at the line of fans standing right outside the Rockefeller studios every single morning... for a NEWSCAST.
A whole 'new crowd' of random folks be out there... every single day. 365. Rain or Shine.
While MILLIONS more are watching at home. Or at work.
These are the same folks who might approach him / or instantly recognize him on a crowded NYC street.
Tourists. Soccer Moms. Regular Joes. Etc.
They would pass by and make a comment.... or ask for a photo / or a quick autograph.
Hell, they probably even know what his wife looks like.
When you are a public figure... 'being discreet'..... (especially in order to cheat on your wife
)... is much easier 'said than done'.Now I completely agree.. they wouldn't know what he does 'behind closed doors'... but he gotta get to a destination FIRST... in order to actually 'close those doors'... so the only place he could take the women is to a local hotel somewhere nearby. (where he would get spotted.
)So all it takes (to ruin his plans) is some random tourist in a hotel lobby... begging for a photo OP.
Or some waiter/waitress (with a cameraphone) who can't wait to tell their friends... 'guess who came to my restaurant today'.
Or some (minimum-wage) hotel worker... looking for a quick TMZ payday.
Or a chatty doorman of a luxury building... who just can't keep a secret.
Or some nosey Uber driver... with a dashcam & a big mouth.
Just saying.
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"Thank ya'll for coming out,God bless you,good night."
-Russell's last words to his employees
-Russell's last words to his employees
Why do you believe that NOBODY would find out... when he is a 'public figure'?
If he was just a 'regular joe'.... I would agree with you alot more.
But when you appear on tv every single day....random strangers will 'ask for your autograph'... or ask to 'take a photo' with you... or just hang around you at a bar & strike up a conversation... pretty much everywhere you go.
Most folks with his amount of money & recognition use 'fake names' when they check into hotels.
Somebody will spot you.
And snap your photo when you are not paying attention.
Then post it on social media.
Ssshheeiiiit... some folks will take your picture... just so they can sell the pics to a tabloid, or TMZ.
Look at the line of fans standing right outside the Rockefeller studios every single morning... for a NEWSCAST.
A whole 'new crowd' of random folks be out there... every single day. 365. Rain or Shine.
While MILLIONS more are watching at home. Or at work.
These are the same folks who might approach him / or instantly recognize him on a crowded NYC street.
Tourists. Soccer Moms. Regular Joes. Etc.
They would pass by and make a comment.... or ask for a photo / or a quick autograph.
Hell, they probably even know what his wife looks like.
When you are a public figure... 'being discreet'..... (especially in order to cheat on your wife
Now I completely agree.. they wouldn't know what he does 'behind closed doors'... but he gotta get to a destination FIRST... in order to actually 'close those doors'... so the only place he could take the women is to a local hotel somewhere nearby. (where he would get spotted.
So all it takes (to ruin his plans) is some random tourist in a hotel lobby... begging for a photo OP.
Or some waiter/waitress (with a cameraphone) who can't wait to tell their friends... 'guess who came to my restaurant today'.
Or some (minimum-wage) hotel worker... looking for a quick TMZ payday.
Or a chatty doorman of a luxury building... who just can't keep a secret.
Or some nosey Uber driver... with a dashcam & a big mouth.
I hear what you're saying, however my comment was also predicated on the fact that sexual contact was consensual outside of work environment & not sexual harassment. As for Matt getting caught in public, fam....that's neither her nor there, it's still not sexual harassment in the work place & he would still have his job.
Why the Matt Lauer case feels like betrayal
By David Bianculli
Updated 7:39 AM ET, Thu November 30, 2017
Story highlights
David Bianculli is founder and editor ofTVWorthWatching.com. His latest book is "The Platinum Age of Television: From 'I Love Lucy' to 'The Walking Dead,' How TV Became Terrific." He teaches TV and film history at Rowan University in New Jersey. He also is TV critic and guest host for NPR's "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross. The opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author.
(CNN)Savannah Guthrie of NBC's "Today" show reported the breaking news Wednesday morning of the network's sudden firing of her long-time colleague Matt Lauer. NBC News had received and investigated a report of "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace," and in her reaction, she was simultaneously utterly professional and unavoidably human.
David Bianculli
She admitted to being heartbroken, "for both her longtime friend, Lauer, and for the (as yet unidentified) NBC woman who came forward with her complaint."
"As I'm sure you can imagine," she said, her voice breaking, "we are devastated." Willie Geist, who reported and repeated Guthrie's remarks on sister network MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program, announced that he was "stunned" -- and he, too, confessed to feeling for both the accused and the accuser.
"How do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly?" Guthrie asked on the program Lauer had co-hosted for 20 years.
A new shock in a shifting landscape
For Geist and Guthrie, Lauer's sudden, unexpected, and doubtlessly irreversible fall from grace was almost like a death in the family -- a sudden, jarring loss, and a change to that TV family's dynamics; his absence will be instantly conspicuous. And not only on "Today" and in the morning, either. Lauer was scheduled to co-host NBC's "Christmas at Rockefeller Center" special Wednesday night in prime time, and would have been one of the most prominent NBC faces hosting coverage of events at the 2018 Winter Olympics this February in PyeongChang.
How journalists covered colleagues' harassment scandals 01:26
Lauer, 59, joined "Today" as a news reader in 1994, and was promoted to co-anchor three years later, upon the retirement of Bryant Gumbel. That made for a seamless and orderly transition at the time, with Lauer joining continuing co-anchor Katie Couric, who served until 2006.
Together, Couric and Lauer were the most popular hosting duo in the show's history -- after which Lauer sat alongside, in order, Meredith Vieira (2006-2011), Ann Curry (2011-12), and, until Wednesday, Savannah Guthrie (starting in 2012 ). ABC's "Good Morning America" now leads in the ratings, with "Today" in second place, but NBC's four-hour morning show block still generates more advertising revenue than any other morning show -- more than $500 million last year, compared with about $400 for "GMA."
And this year as last year, "Today" has ranked first in the 25-to-54-year-old demographic, while internal NBC testing credits Lauer as a main reason why viewers, female viewers especially, tune to "Today." Tomorrow, who knows?
The uncertainty facing the "Today" show is but a microcosm of the shifting landscape in front of and beneath just about everyone these days. How are we to evaluate, and respond to, these exponentially growing claims and revelations of sexual abuse?
How will viewers take it?[/paste:font]
Two weeks ago on her Hulu series "I Love You, America," Sarah Silverman opened her show by asking a similar question about her close friend and fellow comic, Louis C.K., who was accused of, and admitted to, his own inappropriate sexual behavior: "Can you love someone," she asked, "who did bad things?"
The accusations, confessions, denials and investigations aren't so much a tsunami, hitting all at once with unexpected force and devastating results, but more like a steadily rising tide or a series of waves, with each new revelation gaining strength and context from the ones preceding and following it.
Not every accusation is equal, or should be treated that way, but increasingly, the voices of those coming forward to tell stories of abuse of power, sex or both are being given more credence.
In politics, the reactions from the accused range from total denials (President Donald Trump, senatorial candidate Roy Moore) to sheepish apologies (Sen. Al Franken), and range widely in severity as well.
But in show business and the media, thus far, repercussions and judgments have been more swift and severe. Harvey Weinstein, who denies allegations, has been ostracized, Kevin Spacey (who apologized and said he didn't recall alleged incidents) has been edited out of his latest movie, and Louis C.K. has had his latest film pulled from the marketplace.
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Matt Lauer fired from NBC News 01:15
On television, Lauer was fired instantly after the investigation of what may be a single --and what NBC execs found to be clearly credible -- complaint, and he's the second male morning show host this month to be dismissed for inappropriate sexual conduct in the workplace, after "CBS This Morning" host Charlie Rose, who also lost his jobs at PBS and at "60 Minutes."
And at "Morning Joe," one formerly frequent MSNBC contributor no longer there to comment on the Lauer firing was Mark Halperin, whose respected run as a political analyst on TV came to an abrupt end last month after several women surfaced with stories of his alleged inappropriate conduct while at ABC News (he offered both apology and denials on some of the specifics). And of course before Keillor, Lauer, Rose and Halperin, there was Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly, who lost his anchor chair after allegations and reports of settlements with women.
Why Lauer accusations so surprising[/paste:font]
But in this torrent of allegations, some are more surprising than others, and this largely owes to the public persona of the person being accused. Lauer, the longest-running host in "Today" history, successfully radiated a genial, nice-guy, family feeling. Just as when the Bill Cosby allegations hit -- so radically warring with his cuddly patriarch character on NBC's beloved "The Cosby Show" -- the disappointment, perhaps even a sense of betrayal, has seemed somehow more pronounced.
Also Wednesday, longtime "Prairie Home Companion" host and creator Garrison Keillor faced his own allegations of sexual misconduct. (A spokesman for Keillor did not respond to a request for comment.)
Co-host's emotional reaction to Lauer's firing 01:59
I teach TV history classes at Rowan University in New Jersey, and last week, my students were so shaken by the recent allegations of abuse by men in positions of power, they spent a long time talking about it. The more they trusted or liked a celebrity or politician, the more hurt and betrayed they felt.
And since we had recently covered the quiz show scandals of the 1950s, these college students eventually concluded that today's growing awareness of sexual abuses in politics, Hollywood and the media is comparable to that era, with a similar loss of innocence, but a long-overdue re-evaluation of the status quo.
The news of Matt Lauer hurts today, just as his absence is likely to hurt "Today" in the future. But expect more accusations and revelations to come. Perhaps the best thing that can come from this disturbing and distressing news is that we could actually arrive at a time of change, especially for former and current victims -- so there won't be as many future ones.
By David Bianculli
Updated 7:39 AM ET, Thu November 30, 2017
Story highlights
- David Bianculli: Matt Lauer successfully radiated a genial, nice, family feeling, as Bill Cosby did on his hit show.
- As a result, the disappointment, maybe even the betrayal, seemed somehow more pronounced, writes Bianculli
David Bianculli is founder and editor ofTVWorthWatching.com. His latest book is "The Platinum Age of Television: From 'I Love Lucy' to 'The Walking Dead,' How TV Became Terrific." He teaches TV and film history at Rowan University in New Jersey. He also is TV critic and guest host for NPR's "Fresh Air" with Terry Gross. The opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author.
(CNN)Savannah Guthrie of NBC's "Today" show reported the breaking news Wednesday morning of the network's sudden firing of her long-time colleague Matt Lauer. NBC News had received and investigated a report of "inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace," and in her reaction, she was simultaneously utterly professional and unavoidably human.
David Bianculli
She admitted to being heartbroken, "for both her longtime friend, Lauer, and for the (as yet unidentified) NBC woman who came forward with her complaint."
"As I'm sure you can imagine," she said, her voice breaking, "we are devastated." Willie Geist, who reported and repeated Guthrie's remarks on sister network MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program, announced that he was "stunned" -- and he, too, confessed to feeling for both the accused and the accuser.
"How do you reconcile your love for someone with the revelation that they have behaved badly?" Guthrie asked on the program Lauer had co-hosted for 20 years.
A new shock in a shifting landscape
For Geist and Guthrie, Lauer's sudden, unexpected, and doubtlessly irreversible fall from grace was almost like a death in the family -- a sudden, jarring loss, and a change to that TV family's dynamics; his absence will be instantly conspicuous. And not only on "Today" and in the morning, either. Lauer was scheduled to co-host NBC's "Christmas at Rockefeller Center" special Wednesday night in prime time, and would have been one of the most prominent NBC faces hosting coverage of events at the 2018 Winter Olympics this February in PyeongChang.
How journalists covered colleagues' harassment scandals 01:26
Lauer, 59, joined "Today" as a news reader in 1994, and was promoted to co-anchor three years later, upon the retirement of Bryant Gumbel. That made for a seamless and orderly transition at the time, with Lauer joining continuing co-anchor Katie Couric, who served until 2006.
Together, Couric and Lauer were the most popular hosting duo in the show's history -- after which Lauer sat alongside, in order, Meredith Vieira (2006-2011), Ann Curry (2011-12), and, until Wednesday, Savannah Guthrie (starting in 2012 ). ABC's "Good Morning America" now leads in the ratings, with "Today" in second place, but NBC's four-hour morning show block still generates more advertising revenue than any other morning show -- more than $500 million last year, compared with about $400 for "GMA."
And this year as last year, "Today" has ranked first in the 25-to-54-year-old demographic, while internal NBC testing credits Lauer as a main reason why viewers, female viewers especially, tune to "Today." Tomorrow, who knows?
The uncertainty facing the "Today" show is but a microcosm of the shifting landscape in front of and beneath just about everyone these days. How are we to evaluate, and respond to, these exponentially growing claims and revelations of sexual abuse?
How will viewers take it?[/paste:font]
Two weeks ago on her Hulu series "I Love You, America," Sarah Silverman opened her show by asking a similar question about her close friend and fellow comic, Louis C.K., who was accused of, and admitted to, his own inappropriate sexual behavior: "Can you love someone," she asked, "who did bad things?"
The accusations, confessions, denials and investigations aren't so much a tsunami, hitting all at once with unexpected force and devastating results, but more like a steadily rising tide or a series of waves, with each new revelation gaining strength and context from the ones preceding and following it.
Not every accusation is equal, or should be treated that way, but increasingly, the voices of those coming forward to tell stories of abuse of power, sex or both are being given more credence.
In politics, the reactions from the accused range from total denials (President Donald Trump, senatorial candidate Roy Moore) to sheepish apologies (Sen. Al Franken), and range widely in severity as well.
But in show business and the media, thus far, repercussions and judgments have been more swift and severe. Harvey Weinstein, who denies allegations, has been ostracized, Kevin Spacey (who apologized and said he didn't recall alleged incidents) has been edited out of his latest movie, and Louis C.K. has had his latest film pulled from the marketplace.
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Matt Lauer fired from NBC News 01:15
On television, Lauer was fired instantly after the investigation of what may be a single --and what NBC execs found to be clearly credible -- complaint, and he's the second male morning show host this month to be dismissed for inappropriate sexual conduct in the workplace, after "CBS This Morning" host Charlie Rose, who also lost his jobs at PBS and at "60 Minutes."
And at "Morning Joe," one formerly frequent MSNBC contributor no longer there to comment on the Lauer firing was Mark Halperin, whose respected run as a political analyst on TV came to an abrupt end last month after several women surfaced with stories of his alleged inappropriate conduct while at ABC News (he offered both apology and denials on some of the specifics). And of course before Keillor, Lauer, Rose and Halperin, there was Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly, who lost his anchor chair after allegations and reports of settlements with women.
Why Lauer accusations so surprising[/paste:font]
But in this torrent of allegations, some are more surprising than others, and this largely owes to the public persona of the person being accused. Lauer, the longest-running host in "Today" history, successfully radiated a genial, nice-guy, family feeling. Just as when the Bill Cosby allegations hit -- so radically warring with his cuddly patriarch character on NBC's beloved "The Cosby Show" -- the disappointment, perhaps even a sense of betrayal, has seemed somehow more pronounced.
Also Wednesday, longtime "Prairie Home Companion" host and creator Garrison Keillor faced his own allegations of sexual misconduct. (A spokesman for Keillor did not respond to a request for comment.)
Co-host's emotional reaction to Lauer's firing 01:59
I teach TV history classes at Rowan University in New Jersey, and last week, my students were so shaken by the recent allegations of abuse by men in positions of power, they spent a long time talking about it. The more they trusted or liked a celebrity or politician, the more hurt and betrayed they felt.
And since we had recently covered the quiz show scandals of the 1950s, these college students eventually concluded that today's growing awareness of sexual abuses in politics, Hollywood and the media is comparable to that era, with a similar loss of innocence, but a long-overdue re-evaluation of the status quo.
The news of Matt Lauer hurts today, just as his absence is likely to hurt "Today" in the future. But expect more accusations and revelations to come. Perhaps the best thing that can come from this disturbing and distressing news is that we could actually arrive at a time of change, especially for former and current victims -- so there won't be as many future ones.
I never gave Sandra much props for comedy or wits- but navigating that interview with Matt - she gets a lot of props from me now
That mofo stayed asking about that nude scene for almost the whole interview
and both of them surrounded by crackers...
A former Today show production assistant has come forward with details about a secret relationship she says she had with Matt Lauer.
In a first person account in Variety, Addie Collins Zinone writes: “I was under his spell. It was all-consuming."
She kept a printout of flirtatious messages she says Lauer sent her in 2000 when she was just starting out in television.
“Another message said: “Ok, now you're killing me....you look great today.! A bit tough to concentrate.”
She replied: “That really means a lot to me for many reasons.”
The flirty messages grew in intensity after she told Lauer she was leaving Today show for an anchor job at a station in West Virginia.
She messaged him: “I'd like to get a little advice from you before I leave.”
Lauer took the ambitious 24-year-old woman to lunch, but instead of career advice, she says he took the opportunity to hit on her and insisted they leave separately so they wouldn't be seen together.
When Lauer got back at the Today show the he messaged her: “Meet me.”
“Meet you where?” She answered. “Matt think about this first... You have a wife.”
He apparently dismissed her concern and told her and replied: “Dressing room.”
She says that's when they had the first of many trysts.
Their last sexual encounter took place at the Staples Center during the 2000 Democratic National Convention, which Lauer was covering for the Today show.
She writes in Variety: "He leaned over and said to me, 'Do you see that bathroom over there? Meet me in five minutes.' So I went."
She says she joined the U.S. Army after the affair ended because "I couldn't deal with the fallout from this brief but intense relationship."
"Matt took advantage of his power,” she wrote. “It's sickening. It breaks my heart that he did this for so long."
She did two tours in Iraq. In 2009 she returned to the Today show as a guest for a Veterans Day segment. Matt Lauer took that day off.
Now, she is married with two children and lives in Southern California. She says she decided to come forward to “squash any doubts about the allegations from other women against matt Lauer."
ad with Matt Lauer.
In a first person account in Variety, Addie Collins Zinone writes: “I was under his spell. It was all-consuming."
The logic of this broad is crazy. She willingly fucked Matt and had the nerve to say he took advantage of his powers.
I wish this quote was in the original article.
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