Floyd is retired so I won't hold that against him but yes, an argument can be made that he might surpass Floyd if he beats Spence at his age....Thurman looked like shit the fight before Pacquiao but beating Spence? Goddamn that would be massive
Manny Pacquiao has confirmed that he's retired from boxing at the age of 42
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Spence fucks everybody up. The dude can truly fight. If, as an amateur, he roughed up the best boxer of this era, shit, Manny got his work cut out for him. Also, Derrick James is a beast. He was a helluva fighter as well as a great coach. Spence is in good hands.
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Manny getting smoked.
Hahahaha, that's a JOKE right? smdh...you dudes
He's old, punch drunk and just looking for a payday
FYI - Marquez was a "Robot"
Jeff Horn was a "SCRUB Robot"
He has success with boxers who take unnecessary RISKS easily
Marquez was juiced up.
Horn actually lost that fight. Go back and watch it again. He got a hometown gift decision.
Spence is a counterpuncher, which gives him an advantage, since counterpunchers have the best chance against Pac. However, Spence is not able to adjust during a fight like Floyd could (that's why I refer to him as robotic). Mikey Garcia exposed that when he lost to Spence. Pac will use his superior legs to control distance on Spence. He won't be strong enough to really hurt Spence, but it won't be necessary as long as he keeps scoring. It will go 12 and it will be close but I got Pac by close decision.
If were a betting man (which I am not), then I would probably also hedge that bet with Spence by KO, just in case Father Time does indeed kick in on Pac.
I agree that Spence is great. Pac is also great. This is going to be a great fight.
The Shawn Porter and Mikey Garcia fights made Spence look beatable, though, in my opinion. If Porter could get that close to beating Spence with his horrible accuracy, then I got no choice but to go with Pac in a 12 round decision. Pac is significantly better than Shawn Porter, even at his old age.
Wait, you think Pac was Clean?
Anyway, ANYTIME you ready to LOSE your damn money on some convoluted thinking
let me know. It's stupid even to utter some nonsense that you wrote.
Pac is a dinosaur at this point. He is cashing out and KNOWS he gonna lose
Mikey Garcia didn't expose NOTHING....Hahahahahaahaha. Thanks for that LAUGH BTW
He lost EVERY ROUND Glenn Feldman 120-107 | Alex Levin 120-108 | Nelson Vazquez 120-108
Never was even in the fight. How long you been watching boxing dogz?
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Wait, you think Pac was Clean?
Anyway, ANYTIME you ready to LOSE your damn money on some convoluted thinking
let me know. It's stupid even to utter some nonsense that you wrote.
Pac is a dinosaur at this point. He is cashing out and KNOWS he gonna lose
Mikey Garcia didn't expose NOTHING....Hahahahahaahaha. Thanks for that LAUGH BTW
He lost EVERY ROUND Glenn Feldman 120-107 | Alex Levin 120-108 | Nelson Vazquez 120-108
Never was even in the fight. How long you been watching boxing dogz?
#1: You got WAY too much going on in your sig..... WAY too much. Pick one pic and stick with that.
#2: Pac has never failed a drug test ever. He looks exactly the same now as he looked when he debuted. Marquez, on the other hand, looked like he was going through puberty all over again when he KO'ed Pac. He had the back acne and everything.
#3: Pac is still WINNING fights. He is still one of the best welterweights in the world. He has the entire continent of Asia behind him. It would be different if he was getting his ass whooped, but that is definitely not the case. You prolly would have bet against him when he fought Thurman, and you would have lost money. Be smarter this time.
Styles make fights...I think Porter was really up for that fight as well....Porter's style makes all of his fights look that way....Pac is greater than Porter all time no question but I don't think Pac would want to fight Porter now...Pac says he is faster and stronger....he is right about the faster but will find out the hard way he is wrong about the stronger
Marquez was roided up no question but I always thought Pac and his team stayed away from highlighting it because of the suspicions about their own fighter...Marquez style always went even with Pac and I thought he closely won the fight before the ko fight
I agree that Spence is definitely stronger. But that is kinda my issue with him. I've said this before. Spence reminds me too much of Bernard Hopkins (don't get me wrong, I love BHop). He is getting by a lot by the fact that he is physically bigger than all of his opponents at welterweight. His boxing skills are superb, don't get me wrong, but there are definitely guys who are better than him at welter, but they may not be able to beat him simply because he is bigger than them. BHop was a god at middleweight, but when went up to light heavy he looked extra regular (Chad Dawson embarrassed him.... Chad Dawson). I forsee that happening to Spence also. He will still go into the HOF, but mostly on what he accomplishes at welterweight.
I can respect that. I had Marquez winning that fight also.
#1 Fuck you worried about another man sig for? (sus) I'm millionaire behind that sig, thank you
#2 Bonds never failed a test, Mark McGuire never failed a test, Shane Mosley never failed a test......I can go on.
#3 Pac hasn't fought a legit top 10 fighter in 5 years. Fuck you talking about? He fought Thurman who was idle for over 2 years
I don't give a fuck WHO'S "behind him" (why even say that)
Manny Pacquiao's blood test refusal puts Floyd Mayweather Jr fight at risk
Manny Pacquiao's refusal to take a blood test in the 30 days before a fight has delayed an agreement with Floyd Mayweather Jr
"He looks exactly the same now as he looked when he debuted"
STOP TYPING...PLEASE
Pac debuted at 106 POUNDS. How the FUCK can he "look the same"
He's weighed (fight night) over 50 pounds heavier than that. Wow.
This site never ceases to amaze me.
Dogz, I can't debate with you no more. Have a good year
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Not sure I agree with this...cant really think of anyone he has fought who was clearly better than him that he beat just by physical size and strength...I see where you are going with it and it may be true but it has yet to be proven in the real world to my eyes as yet
Gotta be careful with the BHop comparisons too because he looked more ordinary at the higher weight but he was also older
I hope Spence actually fights Pacquiao and hopefully Crawford gets a big fight too because 147 has some real monsters coming up ....they might as well make some money fighting each other than waste time and then end up getting their ass whipped by one of these young killers
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#1 Fuck you worried about another man sig for? (sus) I'm millionaire behind that sig, thank you
#2 Bonds never failed a test, Mark McGuire never failed a test, Shane Mosley never failed a test......I can go on.
#3 Pac hasn't fought a legit top 10 fighter in 5 years. Fuck you talking about? He fought Thurman who was idle for over 2 years
I don't give a fuck WHO'S "behind him" (why even say that)
Manny Pacquiao's blood test refusal puts Floyd Mayweather Jr fight at risk
Manny Pacquiao's refusal to take a blood test in the 30 days before a fight has delayed an agreement with Floyd Mayweather Jrwww.theguardian.com
"He looks exactly the same now as he looked when he debuted"
STOP TYPING...PLEASE
Pac debuted at 106 POUNDS. How the FUCK can he "look the same"
He's weighed (fight night) over 50 pounds heavier than that. Wow.
This site never ceases to amaze me.
Dogz, I can't debate with you no more. Have a good year
Just because you type in a larger font size than me does not make you correct.
Why you hate Pac so much? What did he do to you?
Yes... He is the only eight-division champion in the entire history of boxing. That is something to be celebrated, but all you are doing is hating.
You bringing up the steroid era in baseball lets me know that you are not really trying to debate. Pac does VADA testing now and STILL whoops ass. Those dudes had to retire when they started testing.
I think Crawford should go after the big lightweights like Teofimo. He obviously is not going to get a major welterweight fight. He can easily drop down to 140 and he has at least five big fights available for him.
They say he is looking at the winner of tonight's Taylor - Ramirez bout...that probably is his best route...Spence may still fight him but he can't wait on that...or he could just fight Porter, whip his ass and make a hell of a statement...that would force the Spence fight...this assumes he believes he can beat Porter
If Haymon ain't giving him Spence, then he is also not giving him Porter. Let go of that dream.
You skip over Mosely though....man stfu
I can name a ton of boxers that never came back positive doesn't mean they never did PEDs
But wait, Pac never did cause he "looks the same as he did when he debut" HAHAHAHAHAHA
But he NEVER wanted to do VADA when Floyd asked for it....I wonder why? Oh he's scared of needles
carry on man
We'll pick up fight night since "Pac handles robots easily"
I will see you there... Hopefully with less of a sig
You putting that on Haymon?...vibe I am getting is that Crawford and his team don't want to pay for the fight...basically slick ducking
Arum always does that. He is the promoter. He does most of the promotional legwork. (Disclaimer: I don't give a shit about Bob Arum, but I respect the work he puts in) He normally demands compensation for that. I don't know who fucked it up, honestly... I'm saying fuck both of them at this point.
sus, worrying about another man's sig
Maybe you should click on it and make some money
instead of worrying about it
Oh yeah he looks' the "same" Hahahaha
anyone who thinks paqman has a remote chance of winning should rewatch the jeff horn fight
horn was just too big for pacman
spence is bigger, faster, more skilled, and a leftie
and lmao at dude saying he would surpass floyd when floyd played with him, he got ko'd for hours by marquez(who floyd toyed with), and he lost to the aforementioned jeff horn. if he was to somehow win it just means this era is simply ass.
hell he can beat tyson fucking fury and never surpass floyd
bgol ninjas say the most ridiculous shit lol
horn was just too big for pacman
spence is bigger, faster, more skilled, and a leftie
and lmao at dude saying he would surpass floyd when floyd played with him, he got ko'd for hours by marquez(who floyd toyed with), and he lost to the aforementioned jeff horn. if he was to somehow win it just means this era is simply ass.
hell he can beat tyson fucking fury and never surpass floyd
bgol ninjas say the most ridiculous shit lol
By CompuBox
Manny Pacquiao had a 182-92 edge in total punches landed, hitting on 32%. Pacquiao had a 123-73 edge in power landed, bolstered by a huge ninth round. Jeff Horn threw more punches in nine of the twelve rounds, but landed just 15%.
Keep on talking ignorance
who won?
this isnt amatuer scoring
The fight was in Australia... Jeff Horn is from Australia.... I already know that you didn't actually watch the fight.
who won the fucking fight?
You tell me... Watch the fight.
man take your L and move on
hell clearly you dont follow the sport closely enough to be commenting on it
after the controversy from the fight the wbo hired 5 judges to rescore it
same results
he lost
you dont score a fight based on compubox...this isnt the amatuers
Porter is a problem for anybody. Porter is a oversize welterweight so it is hard to manhandle him. Spence put a whipping on Mikey Garcia. He wasn't even in the fight. Frankly, Spence let him live because he could have knocked him out. I think Pac is old for boxing. 42 years old is old for boxing. So, Spence for the win.
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he'll def get spence next
crawfords contract with top rank ends in 4 months
he has to sign with pbc and get that ugas fight or he's fucked
spence will offer him 20% if he has 3 belts
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