Manny Pacquiao demanding PED testing? wtf?

Pac is done, Mayweather made Pac who he is today and they never even fought. Thats the power of Mayweather but now Pac has missed his chance for a big pay check. Most folks wont even care that he has a fight coming up
Most folks wont even care that he has a fight coming up..OH REALLY? like WHO? cuz as far as I know there are a LOT of mofo wanting to see his next fight including MYSELF..and with his NEXT fight being a slugger in Rios mofo eyes are gonna be peal WAY back to see this shit..:eek:so speak for YOURSELF ONLY! cuz I will be one of the FIRST mofo at my flat screen come fight night for that bitch:yes:
 
Pacquiao was put to sleep by nondescript opponents at lower weights. He got hit with a punch he didn't see running in with that wild shit. As a former amateur boxer, all the weight training and PEDS in the world aren't going to make you a puncher. Punchers are born, not made.

Hell, most people don't know this, but Marquez always had a higher KO percentage than Pacquiao. Marquez is probably one of the best combination punchers of all time. The only person that comes to mind that was more accurate with punches 2, 3, 4, and 5 in the last 25 years was Roy Jones.
The only person that comes to mind that was more accurate with punches 2, 3, 4, and 5 in the last 25 years was Roy Jones:confused:. I don't know the name of the shit you been smoking over those last 25 years but whatever it is you might wanna cut back on it some playa:hmm:
 
Did you not red what I just wrote, fam? I'm not talking about whatever hype the press of Pac fans might gin up if he does manage one spectacular win. I'm talking about how his loses and 180 on PED testing has obliterated his leverage in negotiations with Floyd Mayweather. He's no longer in any position to dictate stipulations to Mayweather as he once was. Besides, he would have to shoot Rios in the face with a snub nose .38 special to top the Marquez KO.
he would have to shoot Rios in the face with a snub nose .38 special to top the Marquez KO. IMO that statement is bullshit cuz as shocking as it was to see it was MORE shocking that HE did that to MANNY and not the other way around...not the fact that it happens in boxing..in fact it happens quite often thus the MANY KO reels that are out there. GREAT fights that have a KO highlight IMO are always more desired. Boxing fans want their monies worth time wise PLUS a KO finish..if you don't believe me do a poll asking "what would you rather see at every fight (1) A first round KO or (2) an all out WAR with a KO FINISH! SO once again I will say An all out WAR with Rios PLUS a KO win WOULD in fact be more spectacular and desired by most IMO..what happened to Manny in that KO lost can happen to ANY fighter at any time..But an all out WAR is most times less likely to happen these days with all bullshit promoters and lack luster fights
 
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The leverage would be Alvarez. Once again if Pacquiao looks good he would put himself at the top of the list for another potentially huge fight, Alvarez/Pacquiao. If Mayweather wants too much of a percentage from either fight they could threaten to fight each other leaving Mayweather out.
BINGO!!Finally someone that knows a little sumptin sumptin about the fight game. WARS with a GREAT KO possibility are ALWAYS a fight fans DREAM :hellyea::yes:
 
The only person that comes to mind that was more accurate with punches 2, 3, 4, and 5 in the last 25 years was Roy Jones:confused:. I don't know the name of the shit you been smoking over those last 25 years but whatever it is you might wanna cut back on it some playa:hmm:

Young Roy Jones threw punches in bunches. Only as he got older, during his campaign as a lightheavy, did you see him start throwing single shots. Floyd is the same. Compare him now at welterweight to the guy who fought between 130 - 140 lbs.

I mean video of this stuff does exist.



 
Young Roy Jones threw punches in bunches. Only as he got older, during his campaign as a lightheavy, did you see him start throwing single shots. Floyd is the same. Compare him now at welterweight to the guy who fought between 130 - 140 lbs.

I mean video of this stuff does exist.

There is a difference.... Floyd plays a game of arithmetics; he throws punches at a high
connect rate, and avoid punches at an even higher rate. When you do the mathematics
you will find that the net effective punching of Mayweather is higher than that of Jones
who was never famous for his defense to start with. Also, the reason why Floyd does
not throw as much or hit as hard as he could is that historically, he has had brittle
hands. Roger therefore had to evolve a system in which Floyd maximised his efficiency.
As you saw in the last fight where Floyd, following the advice of his father, threw many
monstrous rights, and was on the way to stopping Guerrero, until those brittle hands
failed him..
 
The leverage would be Alvarez. Once again if Pacquiao looks good he would put himself at the top of the list for another potentially huge fight, Alvarez/Pacquiao. If Mayweather wants too much of a percentage from either fight they could threaten to fight each other leaving Mayweather out.

:lol: You must not watch boxing. Pacquiao has never fought at 154 and probably will never fight there. Alvarez has already said on record that he will NOT submit to a catch weight so that eliminates Pacquiao as a future opponent. Pacquiao is the catch weight king. Alvarez vs Pacqiuao would never happen. There is a chance of Mayweather vs Alvarez but who knows if it will happen. Alvarez hydrates up to 171 (light heavyweight) on fight night, which is ridiculous. He needs to challenge himself and fight somone his own size. Trout is his only opponent to date that was his size.
 
Pac is asking this one fight too late and is obviously showing early signs of that rumored Parkinson's.:smh:
The boxing fans has been convinced that a boxer that taps and run is being technical but in reality they either have no punching power or a glass jaw. Do you remember when boxers use to actually be upset when they couldn't win a fight by knockout or if a nobody boxer made it thru the fight without getting dropped? I personally think Mayweather turned down that big payday bc he didn't want to go against Pac punching power
No, I don't. Well, maybe in the heavyweight division.

Overall, I believe it's a mix from middleweight on down. Fans want to see a slugfest in the hopes someone gets knocked out.
Young Roy Jones threw punches in bunches. Only as he got older, during his campaign as a lightheavy, did you see him start throwing single shots. Floyd is the same. Compare him now at welterweight to the guy who fought between 130 - 140 lbs.

I mean video of this stuff does exist.




Although Mayweather supersedes Roy in the defense department, YouTube is a godsend when it comes to sports debates. Readily available recorded information is easy to come by in this day and age.
 
he would have to shoot Rios in the face with a snub nose .38 special to top the Marquez KO. IMO that statement is bullshit cuz as shocking as it was to see it was MORE shocking that HE did that to MANNY and not the other way around...not the fact that it happens in boxing..in fact it happens quite often thus the MANY KO reels that are out there. GREAT fights that have a KO highlight IMO are always more desired. Boxing fans want their monies worth time wise PLUS a KO finish..if you don't believe me do a poll asking "what would you rather see at every fight (1) A first round KO or (2) an all out WAR with a KO FINISH! SO once again I will say An all out WAR with Rios PLUS a KO win WOULD in fact be more spectacular and desired by most IMO..what happened to Manny in that KO lost can happen to ANY fighter at any time..But an all out WAR is most times less likely to happen these days with all bullshit promoters and lack luster fights
Manny has NEVER KO'd anyone as bad as he got KO'd by Marquez. Never. He's had some great ones and even been KO'd before, but that Marquez KO was one for the ages. For a moment spectators, including his own wife, thought he might be dead. Think about how many matches of his she's seen to be an astute observer and even she thought he might be dead! Pac will have to behead Rios with a punch to outshine that KO. That kinda KO can't just happen to any fighter, equally. Brawlers like Pac are much more vulnerable to those types of KO than defensive specialists like Mayweather or Hopkins. Which explains why they've never been KO'd like that in their decades long careers. Most these "wars" are products of little to no defense between two brawlers swinging for the fences. A true fight fan appreciates technique, not just two future Parkinsons victims clobbering each other. Until Pac avenges that KO against Marquez or beats Mayweather, that will stand as the most notable end to one of his fights in years. One good win won't change that.
 
Manny has NEVER KO'd anyone as bad as he got KO'd by Marquez. Never. He's had some great ones and even been KO'd before, but that Marquez KO was one for the ages. For a moment spectators, including his own wife, thought he might be dead. Think about how many matches of his she's seen to be an astute observer and even she thought he might be dead! Pac will have to behead Rios with a punch to outshine that KO. That kinda KO can't just happen to any fighter, equally. Brawlers like Pac are much more vulnerable to those types of KO than defensive specialists like Mayweather or Hopkins. Which explains why they've never been KO'd like that in their decades long careers. Most these "wars" are products of little to no defense between two brawlers swinging for the fences. A true fight fan appreciates technique, not just two future Parkinsons victims clobbering each other. Until Pac avenges that KO against Marquez or beats Mayweather, that will stand as the most notable end to one of his fights in years. One good win won't change that.

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You sound like a heavyweight fan and as one myself I feel your pain

All these little mufuckas want the world when it's time to fight someone with some power

And I could give a fuck about watching jabbing for 12 rounds

That's fair, there's something for everybody.
But I tire of watching two big men lumbering around the ring in slow motion, often with poor technique.
 
:lol: You must not watch boxing. Pacquiao has never fought at 154 and probably will never fight there. Alvarez has already said on record that he will NOT submit to a catch weight so that eliminates Pacquiao as a future opponent. Pacquiao is the catch weight king. Alvarez vs Pacqiuao would never happen. There is a chance of Mayweather vs Alvarez but who knows if it will happen. Alvarez hydrates up to 171 (light heavyweight) on fight night, which is ridiculous. He needs to challenge himself and fight somone his own size. Trout is his only opponent to date that was his size.
I didn't know that during negotiations that all parties must be honest and no one tries to bluff. So if Mayweather tells Alvarez that there's no fight out there where you can make as much as I'll pay so accept my 8 million dollar offer, Alvarez then says I'm in negotiations for a Pacquiao fight where I can make 12 million, Mayweather then counters by saying Pacquiao has never fought at 154 and you said no catch weight so I know you're lying and then Alvarez says you got me I'll accept your offer.
 
Manny has NEVER KO'd anyone as bad as he got KO'd by Marquez. Never. He's had some great ones and even been KO'd before, but that Marquez KO was one for the ages. For a moment spectators, including his own wife, thought he might be dead. Think about how many matches of his she's seen to be an astute observer and even she thought he might be dead! Pac will have to behead Rios with a punch to outshine that KO. That kinda KO can't just happen to any fighter, equally. Brawlers like Pac are much more vulnerable to those types of KO than defensive specialists like Mayweather or Hopkins. Which explains why they've never been KO'd like that in their decades long careers. Most these "wars" are products of little to no defense between two brawlers swinging for the fences. A true fight fan appreciates technique, not just two future Parkinsons victims clobbering each other. Until Pac avenges that KO against Marquez or beats Mayweather, that will stand as the most notable end to one of his fights in years. One good win won't change that.
Once again I will say An all out WAR with Rios PLUS a KO win WOULD in fact be more spectacular and desired by most IMO..OH and Manny did the same sorta thing to Ricky Hatton..he too looked dead after that shot landed
 
Once again I will say An all out WAR with Rios PLUS a KO win WOULD in fact be more spectacular and desired by most IMO..OH and Manny did the same sorta thing to Ricky Hatton..he too looked dead after that shot landed

It would be nice but with Rios coming off a loss (typical Pacquiao)and moving up, it won't be this automatic redeemer for his ko loss to JMM, especially since Manny had lost his previous fight before that.
I'd be surprised if he did knock Rios out seeing how Rios is in his prime and Manny has been slipping badly lately.
It's an interesting fight but it's absolutely a must win for Manny.
 
The only reason Pacquiao is still relevant is because everyone in boxing knows Marquez was on steroids. If that was a clean knock out, Pacquiao would be fighting on Friday Night Fights on ESPN. That was the type of knockout, people would call for his retirement.
 
Once again I will say An all out WAR with Rios PLUS a KO win WOULD in fact be more spectacular and desired by most IMO..OH and Manny did the same sorta thing to Ricky Hatton..he too looked dead after that shot landed
Stop it, man. The Hatton KO came AFTER Mayweather had already KO'd Hatton for his first loss ever and, though Hatton was definitely KO'd, he was still semi-conscious, breathing heavily with open glazed eyes. Pacquiao was lying still, face down, shallow breathing and motionless for minutes. Not at all the same KO was what he did to Hatton. And Pac didn't want any part of Hatton until he was coming off a hard loss... just like Rios. A "war" might be entertaining to you, but it won't redeem Pac enough to retain his negotiating power for a mega fight with Mayweather.





 
The only reason Pacquiao is still relevant is because everyone in boxing knows Marquez was on steroids. If that was a clean knock out, Pacquiao would be fighting on Friday Night Fights on ESPN. That was the type of knockout, people would call for his retirement.
Karma. The only reason Pacquiao was relevant in the first place is because HE was on steroids.
 
It would be nice but with Rios coming off a loss (typical Pacquiao)and moving up, it won't be this automatic redeemer for his ko loss to JMM, especially since Manny had lost his previous fight before that.
I'd be surprised if he did knock Rios out seeing how Rios is in his prime and Manny has been slipping badly lately.
It's an interesting fight but it's absolutely a must win for Manny.
This. Dude feasts off fighters coming off losses or a bad showing, but--with rumors of possible brain damage--Rios could be a bad match up. He cannot just win, but he needs to win impressively to get back in the game. Fuck a "war". If he's already showing signs of Parkinsons, the last thing he needs is this shit... :smh:

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The only reason Pacquiao is still relevant is because everyone in boxing knows Marquez was on steroids. If that was a clean knock out, Pacquiao would be fighting on Friday Night Fights on ESPN. That was the type of knockout, people would call for his retirement.

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Ricky Hatton got ko'ed twice and HBO still gave him a big fight. Sergio Martinez put Paul Williams to sleep and he was still on HBO fighting.
JMM passed the post fight screening Bob Arum and Co kept saying was sufficient so it was a clean knockout.

Karma. The only reason Pacquiao was relevant in the first place is because HE was on steroids.

:lol::lol::lol:
 
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