Mandatory DNA testing of all New Borns

[Imhotep]

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Bill Would Require Paternity Tests For Babies

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A new bill at the state level would require a DNA test to prove the paternity of every baby born in Tennessee.
Rep. G.A. Hardaway said he's backing legislation that requires a paternity test to be performed on every child before the father's name is listed on the birth certificate.

"It would be required of all births, whether you are married, single or otherwise," said Hardaway.

The lawmaker said the bill is intended to protect children. Those who can't pay for the testing will have the bill picked up by taxpayers.

"The children need to know, and they need to know early enough, so it doesn't destroy their opportunity to have a happy childhood,” said Hardaway.

Currently, paternity is based on a man's word. He signs paperwork acknowledging he is the father.

But Hardaway said 27 percent of paternity cases in Tennessee find that the biological father is actually someone else.

"It makes some couples more truthful with each other and certainly with the children," said Hardaway.

"I'm a social worker, and I work with a lot of people who have a hard time collecting child support from the father. So, if there is a way to make that easier for a mother, I'm all for it. But as a mother, I'm a little offended by it,” said resident Cherly Mendez.

"If there is a question, it seems to me that it should be between the couple. They are the ones who need to do the DNA testing,” said resident Kathy Wence.

Hardaway is proposing a separate bill that requires a paternity test before a father can be ordered to pay child support.

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http://www.groundreport.com/Politics/Should-DNA-testing-be-manditory-on-newborn-babies

 

[han2.0]

Mandatory DNA testing of all New Borns pt1


Mandatory DNA testing of all New Borns pt2


Mandatory DNA testing of all New Borns pt3



Bill Would Require Paternity Tests For Babies

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A new bill at the state level would require a DNA test to prove the paternity of every baby born in Tennessee.
Rep. G.A. Hardaway said he's backing legislation that requires a paternity test to be performed on every child before the father's name is listed on the birth certificate.

"It would be required of all births, whether you are married, single or otherwise," said Hardaway.

The lawmaker said the bill is intended to protect children. Those who can't pay for the testing will have the bill picked up by taxpayers.

"The children need to know, and they need to know early enough, so it doesn't destroy their opportunity to have a happy childhood,” said Hardaway.

Currently, paternity is based on a man's word. He signs paperwork acknowledging he is the father.

But Hardaway said 27 percent of paternity cases in Tennessee find that the biological father is actually someone else.

"It makes some couples more truthful with each other and certainly with the children," said Hardaway.

"I'm a social worker, and I work with a lot of people who have a hard time collecting child support from the father. So, if there is a way to make that easier for a mother, I'm all for it. But as a mother, I'm a little offended by it,” said resident Cherly Mendez.

"If there is a question, it seems to me that it should be between the couple. They are the ones who need to do the DNA testing,” said resident Kathy Wence.

Hardaway is proposing a separate bill that requires a paternity test before a father can be ordered to pay child support.

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http://www.groundreport.com/Politics/Should-DNA-testing-be-manditory-on-newborn-babies

This isn't necessary. This is too much money and it violates a womans rights

 

[QueEx]

Interesting.

Any reasons why not ???

 

[QueEx]

This isn't necessary. This is too much money and it violates a womans rights

What right ?

QueEx

 

[han2.0]

What right ?

QueEx

What if the woman doesn't want to know? What if the scumbag guy that got her pregnant is a terrible person and she doesn't want him to have any reason to be around the child at all?

Guess we should make a law that tries to regulate guys that try to knock a chick up and leave, now that's a law ya'll should be pushing for.

i don't agree with it, most of the tests would be pointless, if you have any questions yes but not all pregnant women are trying to trap someone.

It's a complete invasion of privacy.




It don't take much to request one so if a man doubts it all he has to do is make the request. Most of us woman don't go out having babies and putting it on the wrong men just for childsupport. I don't agree with mandatory things like that. Some men simply don't want to know that sort of thing. I know 2 guys that know their children may not be theirs but they love them and they want them and they don't want to know the truth and that should be their option. One problem with mandatory DNA testing would be if the biological father was a horrible dangerous person or didn't want the child and someone else did but the courts give rights to biological parents first so if the other father that was really wanting to be there wanted to raise the child he would have to adopt the child, that just wouldn't be right. I do agree with though how they currently have it set up where if you aren't married at the time of the birth then DNA test is done before childsupport is established unless the father agrees to waive the DNA test.

 

[QueEx]

What if the woman doesn't want to know?

But doesn't a child have the right to know ???

What if the scumbag guy that got her pregnant is a terrible person and she doesn't want him to have any reason to be around the child at all?

She shouldn't have slept with him if she feels he is such a terrible person. But she did and that doesn't override the child's right to know which scumbag to call daddy. LOL

Guess we should make a law that tries to regulate guys that try to knock a chick up and leave, now that's a law ya'll should be pushing for.

There already are; they're called child support statutes.

QueEx

 

[QueEx]

It don't take much to request one so if a man doubts it all he has to do is make the request. Most of us woman don't go out having babies and putting it on the wrong men just for childsupport. I don't agree with mandatory things like that. Some men simply don't want to know that sort of thing.

I don't have a problem with what you said, up to the part I put in bold. I can understand how a guy might not want to know (which really translates into he wishes it wasn't true), but (1) the child has a right to know; and (2) there are consequences for the "parents'" actions, and enither should be permitted to just put their head in the sand and act like all's well.

I know 2 guys that know their children may not be theirs but they love them and they want them and they don't want to know the truth and that should be their option.

What happens when those guys get tired of the deception; or they finally get angry with the mother; or the mother gets angry and tells the truth; or the children require blood transfusions, etc. What do those guys do then ???

Who's right has the right to know who the biological father is: the child or the parent ???

One problem with mandatory DNA testing would be if the biological father was a horrible dangerous person or didn't want the child and someone else did but the courts give rights to biological parents first so if the other father that was really wanting to be there wanted to raise the child he would have to adopt the child, that just wouldn't be right.

The law already provides for this example.

I do agree with though how they currently have it set up where if you aren't married at the time of the birth then DNA test is done before childsupport is established unless the father agrees to waive the DNA test.

Maybe there shouldn't be a waiver. Maybe these things should be determined early so that they don't have the potential for turning out badly, later. No?

QueEx

 

[Imhotep]

^^^ Excellent points.......

 

[cthomas0964]

I feels it's ok to test if a woman is taking a man to court to establish paternity for child support. If you are going to use the power of government to take someone's money then the govt should be sure that is the right person. Not the person who the mother wants to be the father. Also I would think all states should repeal some of those antiquated laws where the paternity is considered automatically when you are married. Too many guys are stuck with children that aren't theirs. Anything after that is invading someone privacy.

 

[heiesuke]

IDK looks to be a double edged sword here.

 

[Deacs]

2 things, I applaud and also dread this move.

It is about time that records are kept accurately without a shadow of a doubt on parentage. There should not be a waiver by either parent, all child support allegations would automatically be proven, and the miscreants would have the light shone on them. No more 'mama's baby, daddy's maybe.' no more cases for Maury Povich [although entertaining] to expliot.

I dread this due to the fact it will also be dna on record and will leave a permanent jacket of the infant as he grows up and will be included in all investigative scrutiny.

 

[jayjay2]

^^^ Excellent points.......

c/s

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

my favorite story on why mandatory testing is a must these days. I hope this dude can at least get his money back.

HARRISBURG, Pa. - A Philadelphia man was forced to pay more than $12,000 in child support for another man's daughter and spent two years in jail for falling behind on payments.

Dauphin County prosecutor Edward M. Marsico Jr. told The Patriot-News of Harrisburg that he is examining the case of Walter Andre Sharpe Jr., who has been unable to recover the money even after establishing that he isn't the girl's father.

The investigation has no specific targets, Marsico said.
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Sharpe's troubles began in 2001, when he signed for a certified letter addressed to Andre Sharpe, the girl's father. The letter ordered Andre Sharpe to attend a child support conference in Dauphin County, where the girl's mother lived at the time.

Walter Sharpe, who was already supporting four children from a previous marriage, ignored the letter, and a judge ruled he was the father after neither man showed up. The county family welfare agency then began garnishing Walter Sharpe's wages from his job at a trash-hauling company.

He served four six-month jail terms for not keeping up with support payments between 2001 and 2005, then lost his job. Petitions he filed for DNA testing were opposed by the court's domestic relations officials and denied by the judge.

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In May 2007, the paternity order against Walter Sharpe was overturned after the girl's mother and grandmother failed to show up to a court hearing. But the judge ruled in October that Walter Sharpe was not entitled to compensation.

Walter Sharpe and his attorney, Tabetha Tanner, claim his identity was stolen in 2002, when he met with agency officials and provided identification showing he was not the father. Instead, his personal information was entered into the agency's computer records, he said.

Officials in the court's domestic relations office would not respond to the newspaper's questions. They said in court papers that they determined Walter Sharpe was the father "after reasonable investigation."

Andre Sharpe has said he has always supported the girl, who is now living with him in Philadelphia and about to graduate from high school.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28080381/

Updates & Breaking News from Central PA
Man jailed for not paying support for another man's child sues Dauphin County and others
by Pete Shellem, Of The Patriot-News
Monday May 11, 2009, 11:08 AM

A Philadelphia man who was thrown in Dauphin County Prison four times for not paying support for someone else's child has filed a federal lawsuit against the county and Montgomery County, charging that officials tampered with his personal information to make him appear to be the father.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. Middle District Court by Walter Andre Sharpe comes on the heels of Dauphin County District Attorney Edward M. Marsico Jr. saying no criminal charges would be filed in the case.

The lawsuit says domestic relations officials in Montgomery County changed Sharpe's name in their computer system because he at one time used his mother's maiden name. His Attorney, Spero Lappas said he could find no explanation in the records for why his date of birth and other identifying information was changed to match up with Andre Sharpe, the real father of the child.

The changes in the system left Walter Sharpe forced to pay $12,000 in support for another man's child. He was thrown in Dauphin County Prison four times for not keeping up with the payments.
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Tags: child support, domestic relations, Walter Andre Sharpe

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2009/05/man_jailed_for_not_paying_supp.html

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

What if the woman doesn't want to know? What if the scumbag guy that got her pregnant is a terrible person and she doesn't want him to have any reason to be around the child at all?

Guess we should make a law that tries to regulate guys that try to knock a chick up and leave, now that's a law ya'll should be pushing for.

i don't agree with it, most of the tests would be pointless, if you have any questions yes but not all pregnant women are trying to trap someone.

It's a complete invasion of privacy.




It don't take much to request one so if a man doubts it all he has to do is make the request. Most of us woman don't go out having babies and putting it on the wrong men just for childsupport. I don't agree with mandatory things like that. Some men simply don't want to know that sort of thing. I know 2 guys that know their children may not be theirs but they love them and they want them and they don't want to know the truth and that should be their option. One problem with mandatory DNA testing would be if the biological father was a horrible dangerous person or didn't want the child and someone else did but the courts give rights to biological parents first so if the other father that was really wanting to be there wanted to raise the child he would have to adopt the child, that just wouldn't be right. I do agree with though how they currently have it set up where if you aren't married at the time of the birth then DNA test is done before childsupport is established unless the father agrees to waive the DNA test.

So you basically saying your okay for a woman randomly picking guys to be the father instead of accurately having the right father.......yeah that makes alot of sense......

You do know that their are guys paying child support even though the kids isnt theirs but according to you its okay.....

I cant even take you seriously cuz women like you complain about the father not being their but when it comes to sumthing like this that makes alot of sense you want to disagree with it....

And for the record this would be must better for the kid when he/she grows up just in case doctors gotta go through the family history for what type of disease the family has...

IDK looks to be a double edged sword here.

How is it a double edge sword..........If we have mandatory DNA test it will stop women falsely accusing guys for being the father...Its a shame it has to come down that but that how some women are...I dont want to pay child support for a kid that not mine.

 

[Imhotep]

IDK looks to be a double edged sword here.

Help us understand your reasoning............

 

[VegasGuy]

What if the woman doesn't want to know? What if the scumbag guy that got her pregnant is a terrible person and she doesn't want him to have any reason to be around the child at all?

Guess we should make a law that tries to regulate guys that try to knock a chick up and leave, now that's a law ya'll should be pushing for.

i don't agree with it, most of the tests would be pointless, if you have any questions yes but not all pregnant women are trying to trap someone.

It's a complete invasion of privacy.
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You don't mean a woman who chose to spread her thighs would do so to allow a scumbag or some terrible person to sex her and drop seed do you? And this is you determine this as her right? Excuse me if I don't quite follow your thinking here. Sounds like you are saying she should have the right to determine who pays to raise the child. The babies natural daddy or the taxpayer.

I'm tellin' Rush on you. lol.

-VG

 

[Garifuna]

But Hardaway said 27 percent of paternity cases in Tennessee find that the biological father is actually someone else.

"It makes some couples more truthful with each other and certainly with the children," said Hardaway.

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[Top_Bunk]

You don't mean a woman who chose to spread her thighs would do so to allow a scumbag or some terrible person to sex her and drop seed do you? And this is you determine this as her right? Excuse me if I don't quite follow your thinking here. Sounds like you are saying she should have the right to determine who pays to raise the child. The babies natural daddy or the taxpayer.

I'm tellin' Rush on you. lol.

-VG

Why does everyone think that women that lay down with scumbags arent scumbags themselves? Both of them are.