Man dies, comes back to life, what he saw

[RoadRage]

Screw what the doctors, Scientist, and specialist has to say bc all they are doing is guessing. The only person I would listening to is a person that has actual died and came back.

Well if your mind is being flooded with strong psychedelics you would actually believe things are going on, just like the people who were given DMT..
The million dollar question is, is what they thought was going on actually real, and if so how much does our mind play into what you actually see and feel....

 

[da_monumental_1]

NDEs are bullshit. I've experienced the exact thing most of these people claimed to have experienced in a centrifuge. It's just the brain's way of coping with oxygen deprivation.

 

[kogalee]

Back in 1930 a man named Robert Poole died. Allah who came in the person of Master Fard Muhammad brought him back from the dead. He taught Robert Poole that the white man is the devil and suddenly Robert Poole began his final transformation and evolved immediately into the Honorable Elijah Muhammad!!! He has been spreading the gospel of Allah Jesus Jehovah Jireh Almighty Master Fard Muhammad, that the white man is the devil!

Back in 1952 there was a black man pimp that was standing on the corna that was pimpin the living the shit out of some white women and a few black ones. This black pimp was beating the living shit out a white trick that didn't want to pay up for soivices from the pimp's hos. That black pimp made that white trick go home and bring his wife and the pimp put the white tricks wife on the corna for failed payment. The black pimp was ruthless. That black pimp also killed klansmen, was heavy into bootlegging game, ran numbers, and was training another young up and coming black pimp named Iceboig schlim. That black pimp was fucking the wives of 3presidents, 20 Ceos, 8 senators, 6 Mafia Dons and they were all afraid to touch him!!! This black pimp spat in the face of powerful white men after he fucked their wives. This black pimp could speak woids that could make feared white politicans and mafia dons commit suicide or give away their fortunes to him because his mouthpiece was that damn crisp. They were very afraid of this man because not only could he dodge bullets and catch bullets in his teef, his skin was impervious to bullets and bombs. He went to depts of Africa, India, and South East Asia to find the rarest jooses and berries and rub on his schkin that made him immortal and invincible. Men who tried to ponch him in the face as hard as they could, hands toined into jelly. The only one would be able to fight this black pimp to a draw was Muhammad Ali. When they finally took this man to jail, they did not realize that it would cost the lives 80% of the city's police force just to arrest this black pimp and mad gangsta. When he went to jail he met in there the only one who could bring this super black pimp and ruthless gangsta to humble himself. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad!

Once the Honorable Elijah Muhammad spoke his woids to the black pimp and gangsta he broke down in tears and upon receiving the knowledge of the Allah's Messenger the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, he fell dead. While he was dead, he he saw Allah in the person of Master Fard Muhammad and was he was in utter shock. While dead, Master Fard Muhammad told him to follow his Messenger the Honorable Elijah Muhammad or that he would send him to hell then and there. The former black pimp had a choice to make. Either follow Elijah and go to bgol against his will to teach that the white man is the devil or suffer a fate woise than death of spending an eternity in a room of 300 pound fat bitches as his only sex option. When he awoke he was a new man. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught this man that the white man is the devil and everything in life began to come together for him and everything that had once been an mystery had suddenly made sense!!!

This former super black pimp and mad gangsta renounced his ways, took up his schtar and cressent and followed the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. He stopped being a pimp and took upon himself a new name given to him by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. That name is Rasheed Kogalee Muhammad!

 

[John_Gault]

The Biggest Problem I have is
EVERYONE tells a DIFFERENT Story
Truth is, There is NO COMING BACK if you DIE
If you comeback within a few seconds, minutes you never DIED
Now if you comeback NEXT DAY and tell me some shit I will 100% believe you

C/S, especially @ bolded. I mean that's the definition of DEAD . . . NO coming back, right?

OH WOW...OH WOW!​

How soon they forget.

NDEs are bullshit. I've experienced the exact thing most of these people claimed to have experienced in a centrifuge. It's just the brain's way of coping with oxygen deprivation.

Well it is called "near death" for a reason, right? They aren't called 'f.inal d.eath e.xperiences. It's quite likely the body reaches a threshold for checking out, then releasing the chemicals associated. Seems logical.

JG

 

[da_monumental_1]

Well it is called "near death" for a reason, right? They aren't called 'f.inal d.eath e.xperiences. It's quite likely the body reaches a threshold for checking out, then releasing the chemicals associated. Seems logical.

JG

In the words of the great Larry Holmes, "If you want to get technal", it's not even a medical term. You'll see a similar phenomenon in people w/ extremely low blood pressure who will see little green men. When they recover the next day, and you tell them how they were freaking out hallucinating, they'd swear the hallucinations never occurred. The brain does some amazing shit when it isn't properly oxygenated.

One of my partners is a trauma doc and he has a message above the lamps for anyone to read who claims to have NDEs and OOBEs. No one has told him or any other doc before him what the message is yet in four decades it has been up there.

"Have a nice trip!" on the ceiling. "Welcome back!?! Hope you are stopping here." on top of the lamp.

 

[RoadRage]

C/S, especially @ bolded. I mean that's the definition of DEAD . . . NO coming back, right?





How soon they forget.




Well it is called "near death" for a reason, right? They aren't called 'f.inal d.eath e.xperiences. It's quite likely the body reaches a threshold for checking out, then releasing the chemicals associated. Seems logical.

JG

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He was describing a situation where the brain was with out much oxygen/ stressed, and like the op story dude was describing the phenomenon of a stressed brain not a dead brain... Now the debate is whether or not these visions or experiences during these psychedelic states are indeed spiritual or nothing but figment of our imaginations..

 

[RoadRage]

Before we debate on NDE we should first try to understand psychedelics and hallucinations and try to understand what brings them on what causes them and what goes on during these altered states..

 

[DiamondKutta]

Listen to his comparison of "white" and "black" starting at 5:15. Bullshit subliminal racist religious propaganda.

 

[RoadRage]

Listen to his comparison of "white" and "black" starting at 5:15. Bullshit subliminal racist religious propaganda.

It could be the description of the void in space and pure energy... Of course his understanding kept him from understanding that the void and the energy are both one, a part of the collective energy of the universe..
Some people try to retrofit spiritual experiences with worldly expectations and beliefs and like you said become influence by propaganda, racism and lies..

 

[Armin_Hammer]

In the words of the great Larry Holmes, "If you want to get technal", it's not even a medical term. You'll see a similar phenomenon in people w/ extremely low blood pressure who will see little green men. When they recover the next day, and you tell them how they were freaking out hallucinating, they'd swear the hallucinations never occurred. The brain does some amazing shit when it isn't properly oxygenated.

One of my partners is a trauma doc and he has a message above the lamps for anyone to read who claims to have NDEs and OOBEs. No one has told him or any other doc before him what the message is yet in four decades it has been up there.

"Have a nice trip!" on the ceiling. "Welcome back!?! Hope you are stopping here." on top of the lamp.

Either your friend is the trauma doc I saw on the Discovery Channel who did this or ur lyin

 

[jwilliam85]

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He was describing a situation where the brain was with out much oxygen/ stressed, and like the op story dude was describing the phenomenon of a stressed brain not a dead brain... Now the debate is whether or not these visions or experiences during these psychedelic states are indeed spiritual or nothing but figment of our imaginations..

Shit everything is your imagination. Reality starts in your mind not out there. Aniexity, fear, stress all start in the mind first, your body reacts the same whether its real or not.

 

[MurderCity]

The brain comes up with very strange/odd things when it is normal but unconscious (dreams). Why would you not expect it to not have even more profound ones when in distress (lack of oxygen and unconscious)...

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Knowitall niggas so scared of da unknown that they're in this thread trying to explain away someone else's experiences.

 

[da_monumental_1]

Either your friend is the trauma doc I saw on the Discovery Channel who did this or ur lyin

False dilemma.

 

[BlackArsenic]

Knowitall niggas so scared of da unknown that they're in this thread trying to explain away someone else's experiences.

Lmao. This thread got niggaz in here I didn't even know existed on bgol.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

its crazy how no matter what culture, creed, race or religion those who see death..

ALL talk about that light that draws them up..

they all cant be lying son..

damn dude said he met God and god couldnt fix none of that..maybe he is here for a message and not for the cover of GQ magazine...not that I beleive none of that white jesus shit.. but I hear the message between the lines, and that message is, this life is a test, its NOT the final destination by no stretch of the imagination..

some dudes aint neva going to be spiritualy ready!!

 

[BrownTurd]

You're probably going to hell that's why nigga...better start standing out in the sun and getting used to it.

 

[Better]

I've heard many people say they saw Jesus .... if they saw THIS...

...then we know they're just 'seeing things'.

I didn't want to bring this up, but...


...a few years ago, I had planned to enter the 2010 Guitar Center Drumoff. I carved out 5 hours of my day - two in the early morning, three late at night - to put in some very intense practice. Well, with a month left, I started to fear that I was not a guaranteed win...

...so, I started practicing in 48 hour straight blocks. Of course, I took care of other little business related things, and am sure I chatted on BGOL off and on...but it was all-practice, and no sleep for 48 hours; a day off; and another 48 hours.

By the third week of this, my body/mind was struggling with the sleep schedule something serious. I started having crazy hallucinations while awake, and crazy dreams when I did sleep. I thought I had completely fucked myself up.

A constant theme of my hallucinations was Jesus and Krishna giving me drum lessons. Seriously. Jesus and Krishna were teaching me WHAT I needed to play in order to win. It all seemed so real that, to this day, I still kind of question if those were hallucinations were real experiences. I KNOW they were hallucinations, but there are always those nagging doubts.

If I was one of those types of people that WANTED to believe those hallucinations were real, I would be telling people that Jesus and Krishna wanted me to win the drum-off so badly, they taught me personally.

WHAT would lead my mind to produce those sort of hallucinations? You think Jesus and a Hindu God was that invested in my Guitar Center Drumoff victory?

Something as simple as sleep deprivation 'caused something like that.

Well, as soon as my sleep patterns to reach a state of normalcy, I didn't dream about Jesus or Krishna from that point on.

That's the only way I know it was shit. I hadn't had any experiences like that before or after. If I'm to believe those experiences were real, then I'd tell people that the key to having a real spiritual encounter would be severe sleep deprivation.

 

[jwilliam85]

I've heard many people say they saw Jesus .... if they saw THIS...

...then we know they're just 'seeing things'.

I didn't want to bring this up, but...


...a few years ago, I had planned to enter the 2010 Guitar Center Drumoff. I carved out 5 hours of my day - two in the early morning, three late at night - to put in some very intense practice. Well, with a month left, I started to fear that I was not a guaranteed win...

...so, I started practicing in 48 hour straight blocks. Of course, I took care of other little business related things, and am sure I chatted on BGOL off and on...but it was all-practice, and no sleep for 48 hours; a day off; and another 48 hours.

By the third week of this, my body/mind was struggling with the sleep schedule something serious. I started having crazy hallucinations while awake, and crazy dreams when I did sleep. I thought I had completely fucked myself up.

A constant theme of my hallucinations was Jesus and Krishna giving me drum lessons. Seriously. Jesus and Krishna were teaching me WHAT I needed to play in order to win. It all seemed so real that, to this day, I still kind of question if those were hallucinations were real experiences. I KNOW they were hallucinations, but there are always those nagging doubts.

If I was one of those types of people that WANTED to believe those hallucinations were real, I would be telling people that Jesus and Krishna wanted me to win the drum-off so badly, they taught me personally.

WHAT would lead my mind to produce those sort of hallucinations? You think Jesus and a Hindu God was that invested in my Guitar Center Drumoff victory?

Something as simple as sleep deprivation 'caused something like that.

Well, as soon as my sleep patterns to reach a state of normalcy, I didn't dream about Jesus or Krishna from that point on.

That's the only way I know it was shit. I hadn't had any experiences like that before or after. If I'm to believe those experiences were real, then I'd tell people that the key to having a real spiritual encounter would be severe sleep deprivation.

This is a point I kind of just learned but I find it true. Everything you imagine or everything that happens in your brain is real. Its our view of reality that makes it hard for us to understand visions, hallucinations, dreams etc. Everything you see "out there" in reality is filtered through your brain first before it becomes your perception. Everybody has a different filter based on life experiences, culture, beliefs etc. So in essence everybody has a unique version of what reality really is. In my opinion the mistake a lot of people make is that for something to be reality it has to be seen or verified by someone else to tell if its real and not just them. So if everybody sees it then they can believe that its real and not their imagination.

To me this kind of thinking is incorrect. Your body responds to thoughts, feelings, emotions by just thinking about them even if the events haven't even happened in reality yet. So that leds me to believe the thoughts,feelings and the emotions are the "real" reality and that reality is not "out there" but reality is internal. Reality is your conscious.

So when your conscious relays a message via dream, vision, epiphany it is as real as knocking on wood. Its hard for us to accept this because we want our reality verified by others. Your conscious can't be verified because your conscious is your conscious, just like your fingerprint is your fingerprint.

Your conscious is your reality, so if you see it, feel it, sense it, dream it it is indeed real.

 

[RoadRage]

There are profound differences between hallucinations and the experience of breaking through and entering a different realm... Drugs such as Shrooms, and LSD allows you to hallucinate and see crazy things such as Jesus giving Christina drum lessons, but to be transported to a spiritual realm is totally different... Whats crazy about DMT is that you can be totally sober and not distorted in your mind yet feel like you are transported out of you body into a world of spirits.. Whats even more weird is that some say that DMT plays a role in birth, death and dreams...

 

[kogalee]

There are profound differences between hallucinations and the experience of breaking through and entering a different realm... Drugs such as Shrooms, and LSD allows you to hallucinate and see crazy things such as Jesus giving Christina drum lessons, but to be transported to a spiritual realm is totally different... Whats crazy about DMT is that you can be totally sober and not distorted in your mind yet feel like you are transported out of you body into a world of spirits.. Whats even more weird is that some say that DMT plays a role in birth, death and dreams...

What is schrooms?