Malcolm X called Martin Luther King an Uncle Tom

[older version]

Homie, you can't answer a straight question. Where are getting your information that MLK believed that separation was the only move?

You don't know about the rivisionist version of Dr King?

Apparently, Dr King turned around his tactics, though not publically, and was going to be radical and wanted Black people to "get dem checks"

So while Malcom was something the white man hated, and then came around to something white man might not hate so much if they knew him,
Dr King was loved by the whites, but had a secret unpublished radical stance that the majority of Black people don't know about.

 

[Complex]

You don't know about the rivisionist version of Dr King?

Apparently, Dr King turned around his tactics, though not publically, and was going to be radical and wanted Black people to "get dem checks"

So while Malcom was something the white man hated, and then came around to something wite man might not hate so much if they knew him,
Dr King was loved by the whites, but had a secret unpublished radical stance that the majority of Black people don't know about.

He was

 

[older version]

He was

Yes, loved because Black people were making choices in that day and going to follow someone and King was not a panther, not a Black Muslim, not even SNCC.
Anyone who understood that he was a student of Ghandi's teaching, and that he was a Christian like them (but not like them) would embrace that person before anyone else.

 

[Complex]

Yes, loved because Black people were making choices in that day and going to follow someone and King was not a panther, not a Black Muslim, not even SNCC.
Anyone who understood that he was a student of Ghandi's teaching, and that he was a Christian like them (but not like them) would embrace that person before anyone else.

Was this before or after the water hoses and dogs?

How old are you?

Because you can't believe Dr King was loved. You can't be that naive and brainwashed.

You need to learn more of your history

 

[EPDC]

MLK was "loved" by CAC only after he was killed by them. Once he no longer had a voice, he became "loved" by the masses...just like Ali.

 

[play030]

OP, tell the full story... MALCOLM X changed his position in his view of DR. KING.

Malcolm X working with Coretta Scott King and Martin Luther King; Dr. King had been in jail when Malcolm went to Selma, Alabama to meet with him so he met with his wife instead. A couple of weeks later Malcolm was assassinated..

MLK changed his position also. It's up to us to lean from the mistakes they made.

 

[play030]

You mad at this? Wait till the fuck tapes come out....

That's the same thing Storm Front says every year. You must be their pet Coon.

 

[Knuckles666]

Yeah, you would like to see a man fucking......

Unless you were out marching today keeping his dream alive get off me with that holy than thou bullshit. Unless your willing to take a bullit for what you believe in step off. Besides, it’s just audio dickhead!

 

[Shadow22]

Most of you cats misunderstand the Civil Rights Movement. Many of ya'll think it was simply about integrating and living with white people. It identified MORE with the Boston Tea Party as far as taxation without representation.

We paid taxes. Fought in wars. Yet we could not utilize PUBLIC facilities.

Don't try and educate these walking dead brehs.

Got family that marched and knew Dr. King. They are still around Thank God. I don't pay these male hood rats no mind. I just hope they don't pass their pure stupidity onto the next generation.

One bitter dead dummy pouring so called game into a yougin who don't know is pure racism and should be a crime poisoning another young mind. Yelling bout whites when they still spreading that poison.

 

[play030]

Most of you cats misunderstand the Civil Rights Movement. Many of ya'll think it was simply about integrating and living with white people. It identified MORE with the Boston Tea Party as far as taxation without representation.

We paid taxes. Fought in wars. Yet we could not utilize PUBLIC facilities.

Nigga they still don't want your ass in PUBLIC facilities.

 

[play030]

Don't try and educate these walking dead brehs.

Got family that marched and knew Dr. King. They are still around Thank God. I don't pay these male hood rats no mind. I just hope they don't pass their pure stupidity onto the next generation.

One bitter dead dummy pouring so called game into a yougin who don't know is racism.

Children know that the Civil Right moment didn't work. Let me guess you are one of these Jesus Magic Beans Negros.

 

[Knuckles666]

That's the same thing Storm Front says every year. You must be their pet Coon.

Never been on storm front nor have I heard of it, but you have so who’s the coon? Besides, get at them for disparaging your man not a nigga on a porn board....

 

[older version]

Was this before or after the water hoses and dogs?

How old are you?

Because you can't believe Dr King was loved. You can't be that naive and brainwashed.

You need to learn more of your history

Are you seriously attempting to shut me up by a paltry insult?

Are you insuating that I am saying that ALL white people loved King?
No, I am saying that he was loved by those in charge as a pacifist in the face
Black Militants that were on the rise.

Let me bold it out for you
If Black people were going to make a choice in leadership, King would be the best choice in
their own interests.


You are missing the point based on incidents.

Did you learn about your history in that some of those events were carefully staged
so that the devilists of devils would react to peaceful demostrations when the cameras
were around? Is that truth or no?

 

[Big Tex]

I said in another thread, there is no site on the internet besides Stormfront (maybe) that hates prominent black people more than this one.

 

[Shadow22]

Children know that the Civil Right moment didn't work. Let me guess you are one of these Jesus Magic Beans Negros.

Nope. Im one of those put in the work brehs. I help kids and parents get out of a bad sistuation and move to a safer more peacefully area. Where u sleep at night , wild rabbits run free no gun shots. Kids play soccer in the fall u know suburba I also donate book bags, food , pencils etc.

My barber's pops has his own construction and he renovates older ranch homes for seniors color don't matter. Hell when I can I lend a helping hand. We put in heated bathroom floors, walk in tubs with the door .

Hell if u wanna keep it funky malcolm's movement didn't work and he was taken out by his own.

 

[Complex]

Are you seriously attempting to shut me up by a paltry insult?

Are you insuating that I am saying that ALL white people loved King?
No, I am saying that he was loved by those in charge as a pacifist in the face
Black Militants that were on the rise.

Let me bold it out for you
If Black people were going to make a choice in leadership, King would be the best choice in
their own interests.


You are missing the point based on incidents.

Did you learn about your history in that some of those events were carefully staged
so that the devilists of devils would react to peaceful demostrations when the cameras
were around? Is that truth or no?

Was his assassination staged?

He's really in Cuba with Tupac?

He was so beneficial

 

[sharkbait28]

Was this before or after the water hoses and dogs?

How old are you?

Because you can't believe Dr King was loved. You can't be that naive and brainwashed.

You need to learn more of your history

In fact MLK was deeply unpopular. The revisionist history we read paints this picture of a universally adored man and it completely sanitizes just how much he was reviled by his contemporaries in White America during his time.

Towards the end he was beggining to key into the class struggle in America as well and was maligned from all corners for his Poor People's Campaign.

 

[knightmelodic]

I wonder how many here were actually alive to see the Civil Rights Movement? And the NOI movement?

It's obvious the vast majority have little to no knowledge of the TRUE history of those movements; and those men.

 

[older version]

Was his assignation staged?

He's really in Cuba with Tupac?

He was so beneficial

See, for you it must be all or nothing, huh?

The KKK and militant whites lynched and bombed in the cover of night.

But they were not going to come out in the daytime. To the rest of
the country, they didn't believe or didn't want to believe what was
happening.

But the movement knew that and outsmarted them so they could get on camera their
hate, even if the could not get the bombings and murders on camera.

Now, people had to make a choice given the things that WERE captured and
the claims we were making all along were turning out to be true.

 

[older version]

In fact MLK was deeply unpopular. The revisionist history we read paints this picture of a universally adored man and it completely sanitizes just how much he was reviled by his contemporaries in White America during his time.

Towards the end he was beggining to key into the class struggle in America as well and was maligned from all corners for his Poor People's Campaign.

Address me.
I'm not saying that King was loved like "let's give him a holiday" loved.

He was loved like some whites love Charles Barkely now. They "love" the
"truth" that Charles speaks and they would rather for us to all be like Charles,
than like Farrakhan.

Why would you see whites marching hand in hand with King at Selma
and not backing Black Muslims when they came to town?

 

[World B Free]

Unless you were out marching today keeping his dream alive get off me with that holy than thou bullshit. Unless your willing to take a bullit for what you believe in step off. Besides, it’s just audio dickhead!

I'm not being holier than thou, however you're being gayer than thou......You Rainbow Flag Warrior..

 

[World B Free]

You don't know about the rivisionist version of Dr King?

Apparently, Dr King turned around his tactics, though not publically, and was going to be radical and wanted Black people to "get dem checks"

So while Malcom was something the white man hated, and then came around to something white man might not hate so much if they knew him,
Dr King was loved by the whites, but had a secret unpublished radical stance that the majority of Black people don't know about.

Homie, that's what the Poor People's Campaign was about, King was going after the embedded inequality of the capitalist system.

 

[World B Free]

King said he believed he integrated his people into a burning house

Did King say separation was the only answer, though?

 

[World B Free]

Thank you....those clips are used to further divide and if you are trying to divide us? I gotta question your motives and what you stand for.

No doubt, fam.... , peeps be slick.....using those J. Edgar Hoover tactics....

 

[World B Free]

He stated that he was afraid that he was integrating his people into hell itself.

Did Dr. King say separation was the only answer, though?

 

[older version]

Homie, that's what the Poor People's Campaign was about, King was going after the embedded inequality of the capitalist system.

Yes,
Until 1968, the focus was on racial inequality down south. But thinking about how far reaching the Poor People's Campaign would have been,
it was an indictment of the government as a whole and the group affected includes majority Blacks all across the nation and whites too.
They saw that in action with the Sanitation workers sideshow.

Feds didn't want to hear that. King knew it was a big risk.

 

[Mr. Del]

Always somebody posting this damn near every year.

 

[sharkbait28]

Address me.
I'm not saying that King was loved like "let's give him a holiday" loved.

He was loved like some whites love Charles Barkely now. They "love" the
"truth" that Charles speaks and they would rather for us to all be like Charles,
than like Farrakhan.

Why would you see whites marching hand in hand with King at Selma
and not backing Black Muslims when they came to town?

I think there's no denying that his message was more palatable to white folks then that of Malcolm X for eg (his pre Mecca messaging in particular) but even acknowledging this theres also no doubt that he was a deeply unpopular character in the contemporary American imagination at the time. Young white/jewish activists who were swayed to join the marches did so late in the game and as powerful as MLKs oratory was broadcasting images of the terrible/cruel status quo had an important role as well. White America was literally shamed into the Civil Rights Act. I dont discount the contributions of white folks who joined the movement but I also think the sanitized image we get now of MLK is definitely used as a blunt instrument by the most racially/historically ignorant cacs (and black folks tbh judging by the responses in this thread and others).

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

Did Dr. King say separation was the only answer, though?

Separation as the only answer was not his exact words. But he did state that he was afraid that he had been integrating his people into hell itself. He stated that no lie could live forever. Truth will bring this white man's world to an end.
Did you listen to his speech "The Drum Major Instinct"?

 

[World B Free]

Yes,
Until 1968, the focus was on racial inequality down south. But thinking about how far reaching the Poor People's Campaign would have been,
it was an indictment of the government as a whole and the group affected includes majority Blacks all across the nation and whites too.
They saw that in action with the Sanitation workers sideshow.

Feds didn't want to hear that. King knew it was a big risk.

Yeah, bro, in Chicago, Dr. King saw some of the most vile racism:
"In Chicago, King said, the objective 'will be to bring about the unconditional surrender of forces dedicated to the creation and maintenance of slums and ultimately make slums a moral and financial liability upon the whole community.'

Instead of focusing on narrow targets such as lunch counters or buses, the Chicago Freedom Movement would fight everything: slumlords, realtors and Mayor Richard J. Daley's Democratic machine."

Plus, his speech A Time to Break Silence he gave in NYC on April 4, 1967 called the United States .."greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." He was connecting the military, economics, and poverty; he was going down a road of exposing the whole putrid system.

 

[World B Free]

Separation as the only answer was not his exact words. But he did state that he was afraid that he had been integrating his people into hell itself. He stated that no lie could live forever. Truth will bring this white man's world to an end.
Did you listen to his speech "The Drum Major Instinct"?

Yes, I heard the Drum Major Instinct speech. Remember, saying one thing does not automatically mean another thing. Those burning house comments does not mean he's for separation, that's a leap....a major one.

 

[Gazoo]

Nigga they still don't want your ass in PUBLIC facilities.

It's not a matter of them WANTING me in public facilities.

 

[older version]

I think there's no denying that his message was more palatable to white folks then that of Malcolm X for eg (his pre Mecca messaging in particular) but even acknowledging this theres also no doubt that he was a deeply unpopular character in the contemporary American imagination at the time. Young white/jewish activists who were swayed to join the marches did so late in the game and as powerful as MLKs oratory was broadcasting images of the terrible/cruel status quo had an important role as well. White America was literally shamed into the Civil Rights Act. I dont discount the contributions of white folks who joined the movement but I also think the sanitized image we get now of MLK is definitely used as a blunt instrument by the most racially/historically ignorant cacs (and black folks tbh judging by the responses in this thread and others).

I'll take back the word "loved" and use "palatable". I don't want my use to trip some up when that was not the point I was trying to make.
Any and all Blacks would be unpopular if we are considering changes to or any stance that would cause a ripple into White supremacy.
The country would have been more comfortable by ignoring what was happening, both Blacks and Whites of the time.

But waves were being made, and the "lesser of evils" was King, if and only if (iff) a choice had to be made.
Any person who stuck their neck out were immediately in financial and life threatening danger. This Malcolm X message
was made before he became enlightened. He died young, not knowing the changes that were to be made.

 

[Gazoo]

Don't try and educate these walking dead brehs.

Got family that marched and knew Dr. King. They are still around Thank God. I don't pay these male hood rats no mind. I just hope they don't pass their pure stupidity onto the next generation.

One bitter dead dummy pouring so called game into a yougin who don't know is pure racism and should be a crime poisoning another young mind. Yelling bout whites when they still spreading that poison.

Bro, sounds like you have a great background and family.

 

[Shadow22]

In fact MLK was deeply unpopular. The revisionist history we read paints this picture of a universally adored man and it completely sanitizes just how much he was reviled by his contemporaries in White America during his time.

Towards the end he was beggining to key into the class struggle in America as well and was maligned from all corners for his Poor People's Campaign.

I just spoke on this yesterday with an older white lady. She didn't know Dr. King gave the speech in D.C. in my Pops home town first. at Cobo Hall . Dr. King met with the Rev. C.L. Franklin.

Dr. King was taking his poor peoples campaign global.