Malaysia Airlines plane shot down 7/17/14. (WARNING: GRAPHIC)

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blame game time
 
There are reports that Putin was in a commercial plane over the same airspace roughly around the same hour.

I still think the Russians did it, and Putin himself could have had it staged that way to play the targeted victim role.
 
im not into the conspiracy shit although i do believe some of the conspiracies have merit..but can someone please tell me how the 3rd tower collapsed when nothing hit it??????????
the twin towers coming down blew out the structure of the surrounding buildings -plus fire...
 
There are reports that Putin was in a commercial plane over the same airspace roughly around the same hour.

I still think the Russians did it, and Putin himself could have had it staged that way to play the targeted victim role.
Putin was on the phone with Obama when this shit happened - and was the first person to tell Obama about a plane crashing in Ukraine

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696327/Plane-crash-spark-political-fire-burn-long-time-Downed-airliner-escalate-tension-East-West.html
 
Putin was on the phone with Obama when this shit happened - and was the first person to tell Obama about a plane crashing in Ukraine

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696327/Plane-crash-spark-political-fire-burn-long-time-Downed-airliner-escalate-tension-East-West.html

Now THAT is gangsta!!!
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I was saying that some stories are tying to make it look like the Urkranians were targeting Putin, but the ultimate card would be if it was the US sending a message to Putin or Putin himself playing victim.
 
the twin towers coming down blew out the structure of the surrounding buildings -plus fire...

People should also take note that there are massive twin towers in Malaysia that were once the tallest buildings in the world. Take it as you will.
 
anyone that thinks 9/11 at this point was NOT a conspiracy

are the dumbed down ones that they the war profiteers count on..


Funny how not one of them could answer, how the fuck can passports survive..

But the fuckin black box didnt...!!


sorry in all due respect yall just stupid!!!!


nah Im not sorry, yall just stupid!!!
 
Just name ONE fuckin time they couldnt find

a black box, that shit is made of indestructable shit son!!

but that disengrates, but some mohammad attas passport is intact...

I cant make this shit up!!!
 
Can't say I'm surprised at some devils killing innocent people. Doesn't make it any less horrific. Fuck the Ukraine.
 
anyone that thinks 9/11 at this point was NOT a conspiracy

are the dumbed down ones that they the war profiteers count on..


Funny how not one of them could answer, how the fuck can passports survive..

But the fuckin black box didnt...!!


sorry in all due respect yall just stupid!!!!


nah Im not sorry, yall just stupid!!!

Just name ONE fuckin time they couldnt find

a black box, that shit is made of indestructable shit son!!

but that disengrates, but some mohammad attas passport is intact...

I cant make this shit up!!!



This and That
 
Im baffled as to WHY anyone would do this...unless we're talkin bout another Gulf of Tonkin-like incident
 
anyone that thinks 9/11 at this point was NOT a conspiracy

are the dumbed down ones that they the war profiteers count on..


Funny how not one of them could answer, how the fuck can passports survive..

But the fuckin black box didnt...!!


sorry in all due respect yall just stupid!!!!


nah Im not sorry, yall just stupid!!!
:lol::lol::lol:
 
anyone that thinks 9/11 at this point was NOT a conspiracy

are the dumbed down ones that they the war profiteers count on..


Funny how not one of them could answer, how the fuck can passports survive..

But the fuckin black box didnt...!!


sorry in all due respect yall just stupid!!!!


nah Im not sorry, yall just stupid!!!

Ok. I see, so I will ask you like I've asked countless others who end up avoiding the actual question I ask. Lets see if its different this time....

1. If no plane hit the Pentagon, what happened to the plane that took off?
2. The plane was hijaked...radar saw that it diverted from its path...why would someone hijack a plane just to disappear with the passengers?
3. If no plane hit, everyone who said they saw a plane flying low in that area is either lying or in on the conspiracy?
4. What would you tell the family members of the people who died on that flight...that they FAKED their death? That they were in on the conspiracy? Or that they are somewhere hiding?
5. Again, where do you hide a big ass 757 jet? Did a UFO take it out of mid air?
6. Did the hijakers parachute out of the plane...wait a minute...if they did...then where is the PLANE?

As usual, my guess is that the response will be "Gov't this...conspiracy that..." "you're stupid if you believe...this...that"

But I can assure you, regardless of how you choose to respond. It will NOT and I repeat will NOT include viable, remotely realistic answers to ANY of the questions I posed. You'll probably just attack me for asking. Go ahead. It won't bother me... (waiting)
 
Tripster said:
Ok. I see, so I will ask you like I've asked countless others who end up avoiding the actual question I ask. Lets see if its different this time....

1. If no plane hit the Pentagon, what happened to the plane that took off?
2. The plane was hijaked...radar saw that it diverted from its path...why would someone hijack a plane just to disappear with the passengers?
3. If no plane hit, everyone who said they saw a plane flying low in that area is either lying or in on the conspiracy?
4. What would you tell the family members of the people who died on that flight...that they FAKED their death? That they were in on the conspiracy? Or that they are somewhere hiding?
5. Again, where do you hide a big ass 757 jet? Did a UFO take it out of mid air?
6. Did the hijakers parachute out of the plane...wait a minute...if they did...then where is the PLANE?

As usual, my guess is that the response will be "Gov't this...conspiracy that..." "you're stupid if you believe...this...that"

But I can assure you, regardless of how you choose to respond. It will NOT and I repeat will NOT include viable, remotely realistic answers to ANY of the questions I posed. You'll probably just attack me for asking. Go ahead. It won't bother me... (waiting)

I'm sure everyone still has very valid questions about events on and around that day...I believe 28 pages from the only joint congressional inquiry were redacted...just as evidence from past tragedies were sealed 50+ years, we may never see valid answers in our lifetimes. I've given up on all hope of even an independent investigation to at least yield some practical answers.

This recently came across my way...simply keeping an open mind and thought it was interesting from a retired pilot's perspective:

 
Just name ONE fuckin time they couldnt find

a black box, that shit is made of indestructable shit son!!

but that disengrates, but some mohammad attas passport is intact...

I cant make this shit up!!!

Officially, they recovered black boxes from two out of four of the crashes.

One of them from the Pentagon
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The government covered up info on the recovery of the black boxes from Flights 11 & 175 (WTC1/2).

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=9/11_conspiracy_theories#Cockpit_recorders

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At one point, I was assigned to take Federal Agents around the site to search for the black boxes from the planes. We were getting ready to go out. My ATV was parked at the top of the stairs at the Brooks Brothers entrance area. We loaded up about a million dollars worth of equipment and strapped it into the ATV. There were a total of four black boxes. We found three.
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---- The rest from Archive.org! ----

“At one point, I was asked to take Federal Agents around the site to search for the black boxes from the planes,” he wrote. “We were getting ready to go out. My ATV was parked at the top of the stairs at the Brooks Brothers entrance area. We loaded up about a million dollars worth of equipment and strapped it into the ATV...”

“There were a total of four black boxes. We found three.”

Efforts over several days to locate and interview DeMasi, who is now said to be with the FDNY’s Marine Unit, were not successful.
But his account was verified by another member of the so-called TRAC Team, recovery site volunteer Bellone. He recalled FBI agents arriving for the search one day in early October, setting up their equipment near Brooks Brothers. He said he didn’t go out with them on the ATV but observed their search.

At one point, Bellone said he observed the team with a box that appeared charred but was redish-orange with two white stripes. Pictures of the flight recorders on the NTSB and other Web sites show devices that are orange, with two white stripes.
“There was the one that I saw, and two others were recovered in different locations - but I wasn’t there for the other two,” Bellone said. He said the FBI agents left with the boxes.

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Sita Air Flight 601 - An instance of a passport surviving a plane crash. The plane was completely engulfed in flames in the air before it crashed.
www.thetimes.co.uk_tto_multimedia_archive_00340_113881160_Passport_340688b.jpg


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Plane crashes where the black boxes were not recovered. Most in the listing are water crashes, but a few are land ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

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The old site is no longer working. But, you can do a Google search (Image) for evidence from the Moussaoui trail. There's a shitload of picture evidence.
 
anyone that thinks 9/11 at this point was NOT a conspiracy

are the dumbed down ones that they the war profiteers count on..


Funny how not one of them could answer, how the fuck can passports survive..

But the fuckin black box didnt...!!


sorry in all due respect yall just stupid!!!!


nah Im not sorry, yall just stupid!!!

supposedly the black box is in the hands of the ppl who shot down the plane
 
anyone that thinks 9/11 at this point was NOT a conspiracy

are the dumbed down ones that they the war profiteers count on..


Funny how not one of them could answer, how the fuck can passports survive..

But the fuckin black box didnt...!!


sorry in all due respect yall just stupid!!!!


nah Im not sorry, yall just stupid!!!

Say it again!!!!!!!
 
I like how in these dudes worlds - NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE KILLS SOMEONE WITHOUT A REASON OR SOME SECRET CLANDESTINE REASON!!:rolleyes:
 
I'm sure everyone still has very valid questions about events on and around that day...I believe 28 pages from the only joint congressional inquiry were redacted...just as evidence from past tragedies were sealed 50+ years, we may never see valid answers in our lifetimes. I've given up on all hope of even an independent investigation to at least yield some practical answers.

This recently came across my way...simply keeping an open mind and thought it was interesting from a retired pilot's perspective:




Way too much strawman in that video.
Here is one. Where is an official NTSB report on the speed the aircraft was at before impact? The only links I found of anyone suggesting a speed of the planes that hit NY were to conspiracy sites but NONE that link to an article or report claiming to be FROM the NTSB and their suggested speed.

They all seem to be designed to present information so someone can easily repeat what they want repeated without tracing the evidence for themselves to form a hypothesis
 
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Now THAT is gangsta!!!
rowan-makes-a-call.jpg


I was saying that some stories are tying to make it look like the Urkranians were targeting Putin, but the ultimate card would be if it was the US sending a message to Putin or Putin himself playing victim.

In my line of work we call that "tradecraft".....

You may have heard mention of it in a movie called ZERO DARK THIRTY....
 
something like this happen in the US.....and we'd be at war with somebody before the day ends.
 
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